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Re: #3D Fractal vice.
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Hi Mike
Thanks for that, I did not know they were commercially available, first produced I think around 1940??s. I watched a You tube on repairing one and for an engineering project I was thinking of maching one from scratch in mild steel? and the final small jaws that actually do the gripping using Silver steel (drill rod) and hardening/temper. The basic engineering "method" for me would be to make the base vice, just normal standard milling from bar stock or even find a cheap cast iron drill press vice and modify it. The actual swivel jaws would need to be a combination of either lathe faceplate and or CNC milling and jig boring, again not really a problem. My concern over the past few weeks thinking about this new project is the cutting of the male and female tenons that stop the jaws from falling out, as they should "slot into each other by swivelling in place" The 3D printing did an excellent job of this, but to conventional machine these tenons would be tricky. It would require an awful amount of dedicated tooling, once used then it?s a throwaway as i would only make one vice to hold the parts. even? using a special double tipped dovetail boring bar. you could not use a standard milling dovetail cutter indexing the part on a 4th axis head I think I am correct in this. I refer back to mikes link of commercial unit for sale $$$$$$$ and I notice when zooming in there are no dovetails, the connecting lips look flat, so how do the jaws stay in place? Any forum members are welcome to offer there opinions on this feature, as if NO dovetail tenons are required, than the manufacture is doable without a lot of sweat. Thanks -- John |
Re: #3D Fractal vice.
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIf ya don't have time to make one or two there's always Amazon animal On 2/21/24 9:42 AM, Ralph Hulslander
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Re: #3D Fractal vice.
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Thanks John, that is so cool, definitely putting one or maybe two on my list. Ralph On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 11:35?PM John Lindo <bechetboat@...> wrote: Loaded into the Files section photos of my 3D printed Fractal vice. --
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer |
#3D Fractal vice.
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Loaded into the Files section photos of my 3D printed Fractal vice.
From the original designer the acid test seems the vice gripping an adjustable wrench. See last photo of me lifting the vice off the bench by the wrench. Works OK, and strong enough for wood working applications and even a light milling job. A very well designed project and full marks to Prusa Printables for the STL downloads. I used PLA impregnated filament,? Attached is a pdf with links to explain the original uses of this steel tool and how one was repaired. Through my life in engineering, I have never used such a work holding tool. Hope of interest? -- John |
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Re: #LATHES OT
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Sorry to read of your troubles, but as we say, tomar los d¨ªas "poco poco". Roughly translates to "Take the days of life in small amounts".? As we get older we begin to slowly realize "the cemetery?is full of indispensable?people". Take care. My typo error, MK IV , what a real beauty, and with great care it will see us out and 5 generations plus more. Please get it insured if not already, it won't bring it back if lost or stolen, or fire damage etc but could help financially take out the sting a bit. I am envious you have such an instrument, I would play it every hour of the day, the great Paul Desmond? used this MK IV most of his playing career, I often wonder where all the instruments?are now from famous? artists, well we all know where most of the great legends of jazz are now. Stay positive On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 at 07:46, John Dammeyer <johnd@...> wrote:
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Re: #LATHES OT
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi John, Emotionally not so well due to some family issues but nothing prevents me from pulling out the camera to take some shots. ? It¡¯s a Mark VI, not a V. ? And yes the serial number matches the certificate. ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Lindo
Sent: February 18, 2024 9:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [digitalhobbyist] #LATHES OT ? Hi John. Nice to hear from you, hope you are keeping well and busy. Selmer Mk 5 which I am guessing you have from the age, please keep well secure as these saxes are priceless. As a tip photograph?totally including the serial number engraved normally at the base. Ensure you have it well covered in your home insurance policy. You never know . Cheers John ? On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 at 03:53, John Dammeyer <johnd@...> wrote:
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Re: #LATHES OT
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Hi John. Nice to hear from you, hope you are keeping well and busy. Selmer Mk 5 which I am guessing you have from the age, please keep well secure as these saxes are priceless. As a tip photograph?totally including the serial number engraved normally at the base. Ensure you have it well covered in your home insurance policy. You never know . Cheers John On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 at 03:53, John Dammeyer <johnd@...> wrote:
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Re: #LATHES OT
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I love the workshop, twice the space, and played a contra bass in a jazz band many years ago in Santa Barbara. It needed to be supported by a jack screw off the floor and played sitting down, as it was too heavy to hang around?the neck. All have a good week. Cheers On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 at 06:20, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThere's only 2 semi substantial things that I have taken apart in my days . A automatic transmission in Hi school & a real Cuckoo clock from Germany when I was @ 10-11 . I still have most of the clock in a couple of boxes , it's on one of my bucket list's . I always wondered if a sax or clarinet would end up on that list . I enjoy watching Wes Lee Music Repair on youtube . He does a lot of explaining . I watch basketball & the Alaska shows on TV, that pretty much it for TV . I kinda count on youtube for the rest . animal On 2/18/24 6:53 PM, John Dammeyer
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Re: #LATHES OT
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI rebuilt a silver plated alto sax while in high school for a girl.? She played clarinet in our Dixieland band which was called Seven plus a Garter.? You can guess who wore the garter. I played and still have my Selmer Tenor Sax which is now over 50 years old. John ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mike allen
Sent: February 18, 2024 6:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [digitalhobbyist] #LATHES OT ? ??? When my kid first brought his sax home he was afraid that I was gonna take it apart to see how it works he slept with it under his bed for a while . The Sax & clarinet family have so many neat bends & off sets & this & that who doesn't want to see how they work ? animal On 2/18/24 5:52 PM, John Lindo wrote:
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Re: #LATHES OT
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓý??? When my kid first brought his sax home he was afraid that I
was gonna take it apart to see how it works he slept with it under
his bed for a while . The Sax & clarinet family have so many
neat bends & off sets & this & that who doesn't want
to see how they work ? animal On 2/18/24 5:52 PM, John Lindo wrote:
Buffalo John |
Re: #LATHES OT
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Buffalo John
All correct, maybe next time. LOL The lesson my wife learnt is to take a photo of anything she disassembles before she starts. This cat house/climber has 4 levels, assembles with studded rod, c/sunk allen screws etc etc. Amazingly we have had this cat house for over 4 years and we pass by it daily, so you would of thought? we knew what it looked like when reassembling. Similar to driving down a road everyday, you think you know every bend and twist until you drive it in the fog, A few terse words were uttered after I asked her did she take the photo as NO was the reply, and then it was left to me to reassemble. I have over the years repaired many musical instruments and by default take photos when stripping the keys off to fit new pads and springs. All instruments are basically the same forming a common goal but each manufacturer have over the years put in there own? ideas of how linkage, swivels, adjustments are formed into the stacks of keys. The most complex I work on are the Soprano saxes, the smallest member of the saxophone family, and without taking photos first I would be in a world of hurt. Also if some key, spring, pivot rods are broken upon receipt of the sax for the repairs i can show the owner is was not my doing,? The photo attached is of a top "stack" of keys from a "Selmer" Soprano, this instrument is valued at $4500.? I hope of interest. -- John |
Re: #LATHES OT
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And you should add a spool holder for the rope so you can pay out the rope without getting extra twists in the rope or getting tangles. And then, make an automatic glue dispenser with a roller to spread the glue.? And then, a fan to set the glue so it is tacky for the rope to adhere to. And then, ... oh ... I'm getting carried away... On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 9:22?PM John Lindo <bechetboat@...> wrote: Thanks Mike for your quote. --
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Re: #LATHES OT
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Thanks Mike for your quote.
After the fact, and job done, thinking I was only half smart, Duh. What I should have done using the 8 mm dia "jute" was to instal into the RELS system a pitch of 8 mm in the threading tables. Machined up a split busing with a 8 mm bore, and this held in a "vee" type toolholder of a quick release tool post, Run the "jute" through this bushing, clamped down on it so the jute had some load on it, stapled the end of the jute to the tube, and then run the lathe as though I was screw cutting. This way would of made it totally hands free. Oh well I did not, but my tigers will soon claw there way through this new jute, so there will be a NEXT time.? Hope of interest -- John |
Re: #LATHES OT
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓý??? ??? Good work , that's part of the work smarter not harder plan . animal On 2/16/24 9:50 PM, John Lindo wrote:
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#LATHES OT
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Hope of interest. Possibly off topic.
I had to refurbish the cat house and restring the scratching posts, (tubes) as we have 5 cats? and these cat house support posts save on the ripping up of the drapes and furniture.? If these 10 posts were hand wound with the new 8 mm dia jute, it would be very time consuming and difficult to apply the correct tension when winding on to the tubes, So I started by removing the old "jute" or string leaving a plain cardboard tube. Then I just managed to get the posts between centre's on the mini lathe picking up off the attachment nuts. I mean only JUST "phew" due to the length. By power rotating the lathe spindle, then initially applied some wood glue all the way along the tube. It looked like a spring or spiral effect. The start of the new jute strand was stapled, then I turned on the late, very slow RPM, and wound on the new jute, the end of the strand after winding on the full length was stapled. Time to complete the rewinds of jute for 10 posts, 2 hours. Now if my wife can remember how the cat house all goes back together LOL I should be OK. I asked her to take a photo before disassembly, she did not. GR!!!!!!!!!!! Unbelievable but each post required 12 mm of jute, expensive repair, but it saves money on replacing the furniture and drapes. Photo 1 Jute to be stripped off. Photo 2 Tube between centres. Photo 3 New jute wound on between centre's. Photo 4 One tube done Photo 5 Stack of 10 posts done. Again, OT but put the lathe to some good use and could be of interest to other group cat owners. Thanks -- John |
Re: #3D STL conversion
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It looks like it should work, but I wasn't very impressed with the "hollowing out" process as it didn't leave a constant wall thickness.??
Good luck with it anyway, be good to see the finished item when it's complete. |
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Thanks -- John |