Re: Storage of reamers and other metal items
#MILLS
Ralph, there are probably thousands of ways of doing what you need to do! (BTW, I envy you finding a box of 50 reamers!) Most of the reamers aren't going to need 1.5" spacing unless you got a box of big reamers. If you sort them by size, you'll find *PROBABLY!* that except for the very smallest, several of them are going to have the same size shanks. It would be sensible (under some conditions and themes for organization) to have those grouped together. Also generally speaking, but subject to a lot of exceptions, the larger ones will have longer shafts. If you have a lot of small ones, you could probably get those on 3/4" centers or less, and the closer you can get them, the less of your surface area you need to use. You could perhaps do a block of 25 on 3/8" centers, and so on, depending on what sizes you have, and have a different block for each size range that suits what you have, and you may be able to sort by length of reamer, too.? I have two sets of reamer, right now. One fractional inch 1/8-1/2, and the corresponding over & under set, plus a half-dozen or so random sizes various online friends have sent me, and one .316" reamer that I got for a special purpose. maybe 30 reamers, all told. That specialty reamer is the only one with a long shank. Most of mine fit in a plastic organizer pouch, except the odd ones. I hope, some day, to have a great deal larger selection of reamers, both general and special purpose, so I'm pack-ratting all the ideas I can find for storage for when that day comes.?
Last week, since my brother was bringing me the Smithy 3-in-1 machine he bought (he said for me) about this time last year, I pushed ahead and spent all of my waking time that I could working on the shop. The Smithy is on a HF Yukon cabinet of it's own. The Atlas TH42 is on one of it's own. The Mini-lathe & Mini-mill may (if they'll fit) go on the tool chest that I bought a couple of years ago for the Atlas. If not, I may go buy another cabinet. The Atlas MF mill is probably going on one of the smaller tool chests I've had for several years. Unless I can find one about 36"-37" wide that I can steal some $$ out of the budget for. I'm hoping to have the workshop cleaned and organized enough to actually so some work in by next weekend at the latest, and would like it to be this coming weekend. That will require juggling bits and pieces among the various tool chests, and finding good places for stuff than can be used among the various machines.?
Bill in OKC
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William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 05:01:34 PM CST, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
I can easily make up a block of wood with some holes to hold the reamers, I have a couple of them for some end mills and boring bars.
But how much space would a piece of wood that holds 50 reamers take up. Lets see 5 x 1-/12 = 7.5" 10 x 1-1/2 = 15
So possibly a 10-1/2" x 18" piece of wood could hold 50 reamers with 1-1/2" on center. But I do not have 189 sq in of counter top?available.
I am open to all/any ideas! I like John's idea of using wax, I could leave them in the box. Ralph
Reamers are just like a rose or woman, when you bump the petals together, they will bruise and not give you the results you are?looking for, even worse, if it is a woman it could be a "see you in court job". Ouch, I just felt my wallet shrink, or a happy relationship, the later I doubt. I plastic coat (the old oil and hot wax melt) religiously?my reamers, end mills etc, and when you need to use them, just peel off the wax, and throw it back into the?melting?pot for reuse. I have an old Russian pre 1940 military camping stove that uses methylated?spirit and a well used saucepan to? heat up the?wax. After a few projects, I light up the?stove and dip. Sounds OTT, but I just priced an 8 mm dia solid carbide Sandvik end mill, what?I have is?almost at the end of life, but done a?lot of work over 8 years,? These cutters retail out at $35, so it's a case of dip until?I get my Biden next benefit check LOL.? This dipping not?only protects the edges (petals) but keeps?the dreaded rust off them as well.
Nice to hear from?you all, it's been a topsy turvy time for many months. DH is quiet, but the?light down the tunnel is not the train coming at you, keep the faith. Stay well, vigilant, and keep your mask on at all times, especially in the bathroom. LOL. Best wishes. John
Why is it said that reamers drills or other metal items should not touch when being stored?
I have a box of reamers from a yard sale that has > 50 reamers all lumped together in a wood box.
I cannot imagine how much room would be needed if all of these reamers were in individual holders.
These reamers have been together for years they were in the box before I bought it 10 years ago.
So why is it said to not allow them to touch?
Ralph
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer
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John
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Re: Storage of reamers and other metal items
#MILLS
I can easily make up a block of wood with some holes to hold the reamers, I have a couple of them for some end mills and boring bars.
But how much space would a piece of wood that holds 50 reamers take up. Lets see 5 x 1-/12 = 7.5" 10 x 1-1/2 = 15
So possibly a 10-1/2" x 18" piece of wood could hold 50 reamers with 1-1/2" on center. But I do not have 189 sq in of counter top?available.
I am open to all/any ideas! I like John's idea of using wax, I could leave them in the box. Ralph
Reamers are just like a rose or woman, when you bump the petals together, they will bruise and not give you the results you are?looking for, even worse, if it is a woman it could be a "see you in court job". Ouch, I just felt my wallet shrink, or a happy relationship, the later I doubt. I plastic coat (the old oil and hot wax melt) religiously?my reamers, end mills etc, and when you need to use them, just peel off the wax, and throw it back into the?melting?pot for reuse. I have an old Russian pre 1940 military camping stove that uses methylated?spirit and a well used saucepan to? heat up the?wax. After a few projects, I light up the?stove and dip. Sounds OTT, but I just priced an 8 mm dia solid carbide Sandvik end mill, what?I have is?almost at the end of life, but done a?lot of work over 8 years,? These cutters retail out at $35, so it's a case of dip until?I get my Biden next benefit check LOL.? This dipping not?only protects the edges (petals) but keeps?the dreaded rust off them as well.
Nice to hear from?you all, it's been a topsy turvy time for many months. DH is quiet, but the?light down the tunnel is not the train coming at you, keep the faith. Stay well, vigilant, and keep your mask on at all times, especially in the bathroom. LOL. Best wishes. John
Why is it said that reamers drills or other metal items should not touch when being stored?
I have a box of reamers from a yard sale that has > 50 reamers all lumped together in a wood box.
I cannot imagine how much room would be needed if all of these reamers were in individual holders.
These reamers have been together for years they were in the box before I bought it 10 years ago.
So why is it said to not allow them to touch?
Ralph
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer
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John
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Re: Storage of reamers and other metal items
#MILLS
Reamers are just like a rose or woman, when you bump the petals together, they will bruise and not give you the results you are?looking for, even worse, if it is a woman it could be a "see you in court job". Ouch, I just felt my wallet shrink, or a happy relationship, the later I doubt. I plastic coat (the old oil and hot wax melt) religiously?my reamers, end mills etc, and when you need to use them, just peel off the wax, and throw it back into the?melting?pot for reuse. I have an old Russian pre 1940 military camping stove that uses methylated?spirit and a well used saucepan to? heat up the?wax. After a few projects, I light up the?stove and dip. Sounds OTT, but I just priced an 8 mm dia solid carbide Sandvik end mill, what?I have is?almost at the end of life, but done a?lot of work over 8 years,? These cutters retail out at $35, so it's a case of dip until?I get my Biden next benefit check LOL.? This dipping not?only protects the edges (petals) but keeps?the dreaded rust off them as well.
Nice to hear from?you all, it's been a topsy turvy time for many months. DH is quiet, but the?light down the tunnel is not the train coming at you, keep the faith. Stay well, vigilant, and keep your mask on at all times, especially in the bathroom. LOL. Best wishes. John
Why is it said that reamers drills or other metal items should not touch when being stored?
I have a box of reamers from a yard sale that has > 50 reamers all lumped together in a wood box.
I cannot imagine how much room would be needed if all of these reamers were in individual holders.
These reamers have been together for years they were in the box before I bought it 10 years ago.
So why is it said to not allow them to touch?
Ralph
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer
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John
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Re: Storage of reamers and other metal items
#MILLS
??? ??? ??? I've seen reamers in blocks of wood & plastic .
Also seen them in Index's . I know Huot makes one for over/under
reamers .
??? ??? animal
On 3/3/2021 7:55 AM, Ralph Hulslander
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Thanks Alex, that is a good start at thinking about
this.
Opening and closing a drawer and rattling around makes
sense. Right now the box is just sitting below a workbench on
a shelve so only gets moved when needing a reamer.
I have at least 50 reamers in the box and another 50
scattered?around the shop.
And then I have end mills some separated and some glomed
together.
I am actually starting to think about sliding tray storage.
Ralph
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 10:44
AM alexphredorg < alex@...> wrote:
If
the box never moves it probably isn't a problem.? If it is
a drawer or toolbox then every time it vibrates you will
have sharp edges wearing against each other and becoming
dull.
I
3D print divided and stacking holders for my loose drills,
taps, and reamers.? This takes up more space than if they
are all banging into each other, but not a lot more, and
is better for storage.
Why is it said that reamers drills or other metal items
should not touch when being stored?
I have a box of reamers from a yard sale that has > 50
reamers all lumped together in a wood box.
I cannot imagine how much room would be needed if all of
these reamers were in individual holders.
These reamers have been together for years they were in
the box before I bought it 10 years ago.
So why is it said to not allow them to touch?
Ralph
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14"
Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC
motors and a non working 3D printer
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Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta
drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non
working 3D printer
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Re: Storage of reamers and other metal items
#MILLS
You can chip the edges of the reamers. That means you need to resharpen them to get the best finish. A box of 50 reamers is going to be a chunk of change to have resharpened. Same thing with files, or any other hard tool steel. You can take a $100 tool and convert it to a few cents worth of steel scrap in an instant if you chip it badly enough, or break it. I dropped my 3/16" reamer first time I took it out of the set, and broke 3" off the shank. OWIE!?
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 09:35:44 AM CST, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
Why is it said that reamers drills or other metal items should not touch when being stored?
I have a box of reamers from a yard sale that has > 50 reamers all lumped together in a wood box.
I cannot imagine how much room would be needed if all of these reamers were in individual holders.
These reamers have been together for years they were in the box before I bought it 10 years ago.
So why is it said to not allow them to touch?
Ralph
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer
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Re: Storage of reamers and other metal items
#MILLS
Thanks Alex, that is a good start at thinking about this. Opening and closing a drawer and rattling around makes sense. Right now the box is just sitting below a workbench on a shelve so only gets moved when needing a reamer.
I have at least 50 reamers in the box and another 50 scattered?around the shop. And then I have end mills some separated and some glomed together.
I am actually starting to think about sliding tray storage. Ralph
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 10:44 AM alexphredorg < alex@...> wrote:
If the box never moves it probably isn't a problem.? If it is a drawer or toolbox then every time it vibrates you will have sharp edges wearing against each other and becoming dull.
I 3D print divided and stacking holders for my loose drills, taps, and reamers.? This takes up more space than if they are all banging into each other, but not a lot more, and is better for storage.
Why is it said that reamers drills or other metal items should not touch when being stored?
I have a box of reamers from a yard sale that has > 50 reamers all lumped together in a wood box.
I cannot imagine how much room would be needed if all of these reamers were in individual holders.
These reamers have been together for years they were in the box before I bought it 10 years ago.
So why is it said to not allow them to touch?
Ralph
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer
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Re: Storage of reamers and other metal items
#MILLS
Well, generally is it is:
a) To keep sharp, hardened edges from banging against each other, causing them to dull or chip. b) To avoid having to dig through 50 sharp edged tools looking for the one you need. every.damn.time. :-)
But this is a rule more honored in the breach, I suspect.?
Just today I got an email tip about this from ¡°Home Shop Machinist¡± about this very topic:
An interesting hack, but it does lead me to wonder why he doesn¡¯t store his end mills in them 8-P
Why is it said that reamers drills or other metal items should not touch when being stored?
I have a box of reamers from a yard sale that has > 50 reamers all lumped together in a wood box.
I cannot imagine how much room would be needed if all of these reamers were in individual holders.
These reamers have been together for years they were in the box before I bought it 10 years ago.
So why is it said to not allow them to touch?
Ralph
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer
--? Bruce Johnson
"Wherever you go, there you are." B. Banzai, PhD
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Re: Storage of reamers and other metal items
#MILLS
If the box never moves it probably isn't a problem.? If it is a drawer or toolbox then every time it vibrates you will have sharp edges wearing against each other and becoming dull.
I 3D print divided and stacking holders for my loose drills, taps, and reamers.? This takes up more space than if they are all banging into each other, but not a lot more, and is better for storage.
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Why is it said that reamers drills or other metal items should not touch when being stored?
I have a box of reamers from a yard sale that has > 50 reamers all lumped together in a wood box.
I cannot imagine how much room would be needed if all of these reamers were in individual holders.
These reamers have been together for years they were in the box before I bought it 10 years ago.
So why is it said to not allow them to touch?
Ralph
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer
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Storage of reamers and other metal items
#MILLS
Why is it said that reamers drills or other metal items should not touch when being stored?
I have a box of reamers from a yard sale that has > 50 reamers all lumped together in a wood box.
I cannot imagine how much room would be needed if all of these reamers were in individual holders.
These reamers have been together for years they were in the box before I bought it 10 years ago.
So why is it said to not allow them to touch?
Ralph
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer
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Hi Greg
Welcome aboard. We have another member living close to Sydney. Barry McDowel? who regularly reads the DH posts. He is currently fitting a RELS system to his Real Bull mini lathe, he may be able to help?you with missing change gears if they are the same as the Microweily. The RELS does not rely on change gears for feeds and screw cutting so what basically Barry has now have become redundant. Hope this help
Happy new year to all. I have just joined your group. Alas I work full time with lots of other responsibilities so my hobby is part time. I recently bought my first lathe a 30year old small Microweily with a few of missing change gears. Following lots of internet links firstly on cutting gears then on ELS I find myself here. My initial thought is to build my own ELS using arduino ESP32 with stepper motor and encoder. I'm sure things will change as I get into it, learning as I go, enjoying the journey hopefully.
Regards Greg
Tasmania Australia
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Hi all,
First time here and already found some useful info. Thanks to the translator function I discovered RELS on a Russian forum via Igorkawa's video a while ago. And then find Oleg's design here too, hi. Looks like a good platform to look for and exchance idea's and projects. At the moment I am building and installing the? Automation Artisans ELS-kit.
Best regards, Dirk?
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Happy new year to all. I have just joined your group. Alas I work full time with lots of other responsibilities so my hobby is part time. I recently bought my first lathe a 30year old small Microweily with a few of missing change gears. Following lots of internet links firstly on cutting gears then on ELS I find myself here. My initial thought is to build my own ELS using arduino ESP32 with stepper motor and encoder. I'm sure things will change as I get into it, learning as I go, enjoying the journey hopefully.
Regards Greg
Tasmania Australia
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I powered up the Prusa I3 3D printer this morning and got an error on the display.
MIN TEMP?
Nozzle and bed temps on the display were 2 C
Never had this before, I thought it was a Firmware issue.
Opened up the Saguinolou sketch via Notebook ++ and to my surprise there is a Min temp on both bed and nozzle heaters. of 5 C.
Checked the temp of my workshop where the printer is situated and it was 3 C.
After lighting up the shop wood stove and getting the temp past 10 C, then powered up the printer all is well again. Phew.
Also there is a MAX temp of 275 C Fire prevention I think.
Outside temp in my mountain village this morning - 4 C , It?s getting cold here and 50 MPH winds.
Thought it may be of interest to 3D hobbyists.
?Best wishes and again new members. please introduce yourselves.
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Welcome, Glenn, Sounds like you're going to have a really nice shop when your update is completed! Best wishes for a complete and speedy recovery so you can get back to the machining that most of us here love! -- Regards, Charlie New Jersey, USA
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"There?they go!
I must hasten and follow after them,
for I am their leader!"
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Best wishes to everyone for a Happy, Healthy 2021! -- Regards, Charlie New Jersey, USA
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ANTHONY¡¯S LAW OF THE WORKSHOP: Any tool, when dropped, will roll into the least accessible corner of the workshop.
THE LINDO COROLLARY: If you have cats, they will promptly hide the tool.
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John, et. al.,?
Wishing everyone on this group the very best in 2021. New Year?2021 has come. Be healthy, happy, and achieve everything you want to achieve. And most importantly stay safe.?
Prasad Eastern PA
On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 01:17:08 AM EST, John Lindo <bechetboat@...> wrote:
Wishing all members a happy and productive new year? in 2021.
also a big welcome to the new members and hoping whatever your engineering hobbies
are, we have a group that will accomodate you all.
Please use the hash tags # when posting and if not a specific one that accomodates you then?
I will gladly organise to suit your needs.
Best wishes
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I am a retired electronics tech? (FAA) and have built a small
machine shop in my 16X20 garage extension. The main part of the
garage 20X20 is devoted to woodworking and wrenching on cars. I
had a heart attack end of November and got 2 new fuel lines and
a valve job, still in recovery mode and they won't let me play
in my shop yet. I was running low and slow from what I now know
was heart problems. I built a shumatech DRO 350? and have the
550 in a box waiting for me to get scales together. Shop has
taken a back seat to remolding the kitchen and then prostate
cancer and that surgery. I also have a Quorn T&C grinder
castings in a partially finished state. I have the DRO on my RF
45 clone mill and would like to add some electronics to my
Craftsman 12" lathe. Still not sure what all I want to do to it.
It works great the way it is and I have a variable speed that I
am not happy with. I have a 3 phase motor and VFD to install
when I can get back out there.
Glenn
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Just
a brief post of what your hobbies are, this
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get you past the initial moderation hurdle.
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Hi new members Just a brief post of what your hobbies are, this should get you past the initial moderation hurdle.
Thanks
John
Thanks John, Happy New Year to you and everyone.
We have added a lot of new people, Welcome all. What can we do to help?
Ralph
Wishing all members a happy and productive new year? in 2021.
also a big welcome to the new members and hoping whatever your engineering hobbies
are, we have a group that will accomodate you all.
Please use the hash tags # when posting and if not a specific one that accomodates you then?
I will gladly organise to suit your needs.
Best wishes
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Thanks John, Happy New Year to you and everyone.
We have added a lot of new people, Welcome all. What can we do to help?
Ralph
Wishing all members a happy and productive new year? in 2021.
also a big welcome to the new members and hoping whatever your engineering hobbies
are, we have a group that will accomodate you all.
Please use the hash tags # when posting and if not a specific one that accomodates you then?
I will gladly organise to suit your needs.
Best wishes
--
John
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Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer
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Thanks John, Happy New Year to you and everyone.
We have added a lot of new people, Welcome all. What can we do to help?
Ralph
Wishing all members a happy and productive new year? in 2021.
also a big welcome to the new members and hoping whatever your engineering hobbies
are, we have a group that will accomodate you all.
Please use the hash tags # when posting and if not a specific one that accomodates you then?
I will gladly organise to suit your needs.
Best wishes
--
John
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Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer
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Bill in OKC too
John Lindo
Dirk F Ganzinga