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Re: #3D Fractal vice.
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开云体育Well yes and no.? You’d want to take the STL files and expand them by about 3% to 5% to deal with shrinkage.? Next using the lost PLA process you’d have to cover them in a silica plaster mix and build that up and then heat that to melt out the PLA.? Finally pour in the metal.? Then wash away that slica plaster. ? What you are left with is theoretically an image of the PLA print.?? Most of the youtube videos show that these aren’t the prettiest parts by any stretch sometimes with a few bubbles and flaws.? ? Using them as patterns instead is a whole different story.? Youi need draft or taper, room for shrinkage and the sides that get pulled have to be super smooth or it will pull the sand with it.? That means body filler, sanding, primer filler, and paint.? A lot of work. ? I’ve attached a number of photos that show the process to the point of pulling the pattern from the sand.? It’s a lot of work. ? John Dammeyer ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mike allen
Sent: February 27, 2024 9:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [digitalhobbyist] #3D Fractal vice. ? Next question , if a guy'gal wanted to cast these parts would these printed parts be ok to use for molds ? thanks animal On 2/27/24 8:41 PM, John Lindo wrote:
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#3D carousel
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Final photos of the Carousel small parts holder.
Add extra from the original downloaded STL files, 2 x wall mounting French cleats, lids for each size trays and label holders for each tray. C -- John |
Re: #3D Fractal vice.
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You use the downloaded STL files, most projects coming out of Josef Prusa printables are sound and tested. As regards 3D printing, 80% is artistic and 20% trial and error with filament and machines until you find that sweet spot that suits you. I have been printing for many years now and basically the early model printers?were a case of? trail and many errors. What settings were good last print, were not necessarily good for the next projects. Design of parts is fundamental, and try to avoid overhangs. I use the Prusa slicer, a much more advanced?version of Slic3r, very user friendly and in the expert mode you can paint in extra supports if necessary, but the program does this for you anyway, it warns you of possible? errors or problems refernce overhangs etc. Cura slicer I cannot get on with, but different horses for different courses. Just taken charge of 2 X Geeetech Mizar S machines, WOW what a difference,? these budget printers take the blood sweat and tears out of anything that I needed to do. 255 mm x 255 mm bed, 255 mm Z, Automatic bed levelling, touch button control. etc etc. I had in the past used the Geeetech Prusa I3 clone machines, work well but be prepared?to have losses unless you are fully conversant?to know what is going?wrong and you have a fix. I am?not sponsored?by Geeetech, but for a low budget machine, I think they are excellent,?plus after sales, and their forum etc etc. The carousel small?parts holder is all printed off the Mizars, I can honestly say, I did not have a bad part that needed reprinting. Again I downloaded the STL files from "printables'', good design and well thought out, I and I never?needed to alter any pieces, thank?god as? STEP file conversion to edit STL files can be a PITA. I use?FreeCad to do any STL file conversion, it seems to give me what?I need. STL to STEP to my mastercam MC once edited MC to STL. The Prusa slicer imports STL files and then saves them in a 3mf format if you want to keep revisiting the file. Hope this all helps. On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 at 05:53, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
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Re: #3D Fractal vice.
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Mike I think the parts (STL) files would need to be converted to a STEP file format, from there each?part would have to have a draft angle 3-5 degrees ? added to allow the castings to slip out the molds. This would then need each part to be machined. You could resin print as opposed to 3D print using the original STL files. Cheers On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 at 06:00, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
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Re: #3D Fractal vice.
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开云体育Next question , if a guy'gal wanted to cast these parts would these printed parts be ok to use for molds ? thanks animal On 2/27/24 8:41 PM, John Lindo wrote:
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Re: #3D Fractal vice.
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开云体育thanks John , so another rookie ? When these projects show up are they pretty much setup with everything all the best settings possible ? Or is there always something that the printer owner/user? has to adjust for ? Next ? would be how do ya know what to change or adjust ? thanks animal On 2/27/24 8:41 PM, John Lindo wrote:
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Re: #3D Fractal vice.
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If that was meant for me, I'm not sure what you mean. If I press the link I see: I'm not logged in and that is what I see... On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 2:05?PM Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
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Re: #3D Fractal vice.
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John, you need to activate?your Link.?? Ralph On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 11:52?AM BuffaloJohn <johndurbetaki@...> wrote:
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Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer |
Re: #3D Fractal vice.
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开云体育Ron Wrote “I cannot see the middle two pictures.” ? Yeah, I can’t see them either in the email digest view. But they are there if I “view” on line. They are just somewhat fuzzy zooms of some of the disassembly video. ? ? ? R.J. (Jim) Klessig, P.E. Senior Power Systems Engineer ? Electrical Reliability Services, Inc. 1876 Gwin Rd, Mckinleyville, CA? 95519, USA O 707-616-5509| | ? -- Jim Klessig |
Re: #3D Fractal vice.
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Re: #3D Fractal vice.
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Hi Ron Try this 180109-fractal-vise-4c544fff-f4a6-4205-bdb0-de77e55aa375.pdf Cheers On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 at 12:50, Ron Y <ryulick@...> wrote:
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Re: #3D Fractal vice.
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John Lindo, Where did you find the 3d files for the?Fractal vice by Josef Prusa? I can find other makers, but not his. Thanks. Jim Klessig, I cannot see the middle two pictures. Am I the only one or has the latest "issue" of pictures not being seen on multiple sites struck here too? Thanks, Ron |
Re: #3D Fractal vice.
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开云体育Only a year you think…..? ;-) ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Lindo
Sent: February 26, 2024 8:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [digitalhobbyist] #3D Fractal vice. ? Jim |
Re: #3D Fractal vice.
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Forgot to add, the downloaded Josef Prusa Printables info contains a full set of STEP files,?
I like the overall size of the 3D printed model, so dimensionally I will not need to scale when making a steel version. if necessary I can convert these STEP?s to Mastercam files MC and use to CNC program cutting/profiling the parts that way similar to the video. -- John |
Re: #3D Fractal vice.
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Jim
Thanks for the information. Certainly more food for thought. I think most of the jaw work can be done on conventional mills and lathe faceplate work, using some dedicated tooling to hold the parts for eccentric work. Some profile parts can be machined as "rings" and then cut in half, faced back to half moons with a face mill. Good swan necked dovetail groove boring tools will be paramount, not an problem to make from drill rod and then harden/temper. Anyway, I am going to give it a go this summer. it took me 5 years of continual work to build a working model steam tractor, this should be? a 1 year project? I think. ???? -- John |
Re: #3D Fractal vice.
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开云体育There is a teardown and repair of one on U tube. ? There are definitely dovetails on that one. At least some of the male dovetails are separate pieces, screwed into the piece behind it. ? ? ? ? R.J. (Jim) Klessig, P.E. Senior Power Systems Engineer ? Electrical Reliability Services, Inc. 1876 Gwin Rd, Mckinleyville, CA? 95519, USA O 707-616-5509| | ? -- Jim Klessig |
#3D Ferris wheel small parts holder.
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Uploaded inti the Files section photos of my recent Ferries wheel small parts holder.
All information including the standard STL files are available from Josef Prusa Printables. free downloads. Currently printing bin covers, for the various size trays. I chose 4 different length trays that slot into the carriages. The wall mount French clef/clip 2 pieces I have the STL file, also I will print bin identification label holders that business cards reverse side can be cut and slotted in , again STL files are available free from me. This wheel is certainly a good organiser and space saver for me. -- John |
Re: #3D Fractal vice.
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Here is a link for a 1923 American Machinist commercial Fractal Vise also known as a Mantel Vise (why a Mantle Vise? - it was made by Mantle & Co of New York, NY) : It was invented by Paulin Kunze - an Austrian. On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 9:30?AM John Dammeyer <johnd@...> wrote:
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Re: #3D Fractal vice.
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开云体育The photo shows the commercial one does have dovetail joints.? ? ? I’d build a special clamping feature to hold them on the 4th axis and just use a dovetail cutter to cut the outer grooves as the 4th axis turned.? For the For the inner grooves clamped into a fixture but this time on the lathe and a specially formed tool to cut the mating groove since now it’s just like a thread from the perspective of an internal channel. ? If the fixture blocks are designed to not be square but rectangular then it may well be possible to mount it centered on the lathe and depending on which side the part is clamped the actually machining is pretty simple.? Same with the 4th axis. ? I could also just be under thinking it. John Dammeyer ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Lindo
Sent: February 22, 2024 8:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [digitalhobbyist] #3D Fractal vice. ? Hi Mike |