|
Old bench top:
?
New bench top:? Robert will be proud of me for fastening down the lathe.
?
Tailstock alignment mark:
?
Tailstock alignment 3 inches from chuck:
?
Tailstock alignment 30 inches from chuck:
So I made up a new 1-1/2" bench top, working with laminate at 32¡ã and below even in a daytime heated shop was a challenge, that plus this was the first time I did a benchtop/countertop.
I fastened the lathe down, as suggested by Robert and others here in the forum.
I had reported a couple of weeks ago that my tailstock was out of align.
Now you can see more details. The tailstock is sitting cockeyed and it is a little low.
I will test to see if the ways are twisted.
I really do not know what to do about the tailstock being low, shiming seems like it would be a real pain everytime I moved the tailstock. There is a tailstock on ebay for $179.00 which seems a bit much but I do have my stimulus check coming.
Anyone have a extra tailstock or know where I might find one?
Thanks for the help.
Ralph
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Shimming between the two parts of the tailstock base is probably cheaper than a replacement tailstock. Page 9 of the parts list for my 10F shows the base is two parts. Bottom part clamps to the ways, top part allows you to adjust the tailstock offset. The surfaces between them are where your shims would go to raise the point of a center in the tailstock. Equal shims should raise the height, a shim nearest the spindle side would tilt it up, opposite end of the tailstock would tilt it down.
HTH!
Bill in OKC.
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:39:57 PM CDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
Old bench top:
?
New bench top:? Robert will be proud of me for fastening down the lathe.
?
Tailstock alignment mark:
?
Tailstock alignment 3 inches from chuck:
?
Tailstock alignment 30 inches from chuck:
So I made up a new 1-1/2" bench top, working with laminate at 32¡ã and below even in a daytime heated shop was a challenge, that plus this was the first time I did a benchtop/countertop.
I fastened the lathe down, as suggested by Robert and others here in the forum.
I had reported a couple of weeks ago that my tailstock was out of align.
Now you can see more details. The tailstock is sitting cockeyed and it is a little low.
I will test to see if the ways are twisted.
I really do not know what to do about the tailstock being low, shiming seems like it would be a real pain everytime I moved the tailstock. There is a tailstock on ebay for $179.00 which seems a bit much but I do have my stimulus check coming.
Anyone have a extra tailstock or know where I might find one?
Thanks for the help.
Ralph
?
|
??? ??? Ralph , if you have to shim the tailstock it's not a real
problem to do . The tailstock main body sits on a base , all you
do is shim between the base & body .
??? ??? animal
On 3/17/2021 6:39 PM, Ralph Hulslander
wrote:
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Show quoted text
Old bench top:
?
New bench top:? Robert will be proud of me for fastening down
the lathe.
?
Tailstock alignment mark:
?
Tailstock alignment 3 inches from chuck:
?
Tailstock alignment 30 inches from chuck:
So I made up a new 1-1/2" bench top, working with laminate at
32¡ã and below even in a daytime heated shop was a challenge,
that plus this was the first time I did a benchtop/countertop.
I fastened the lathe down, as suggested by Robert and others
here in the forum.
I had reported a couple of weeks ago that my tailstock was out
of align.
Now you can see more details. The tailstock is sitting cockeyed
and it is a little low.
I will test to see if the ways are twisted.
I really do not know what to do about the tailstock being low,
shiming seems like it would be a real pain everytime I moved the
tailstock. There is a tailstock on ebay for $179.00 which seems
a bit much but I do have my stimulus check coming.
Anyone have a extra tailstock or know where I might find one?
Thanks for the help.
Ralph
?
|
Should have mentioned that your tailstock isn't identical to mine, sine your lathe is a 12" while mine is a 10" swing, but they're similar in construction.?
Also, Robert has a document in section 23 of files that discusses the error in diameter errors in tailstock height causes.?
Tailstock Height and Bed Wear Errors.txt
/g/atlas-craftsman/files/23%20Maintenance,%20Repairs%20and%20%20Tech%20Bulletins/Tailstock%20Height%20and%20Bed%20Wear%20Errors.txt
Might not be as much trouble as you seem to expect.?
HTH!
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:39:57 PM CDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
Old bench top:
?
New bench top:? Robert will be proud of me for fastening down the lathe.
?
Tailstock alignment mark:
?
Tailstock alignment 3 inches from chuck:
?
Tailstock alignment 30 inches from chuck:
So I made up a new 1-1/2" bench top, working with laminate at 32¡ã and below even in a daytime heated shop was a challenge, that plus this was the first time I did a benchtop/countertop.
I fastened the lathe down, as suggested by Robert and others here in the forum.
I had reported a couple of weeks ago that my tailstock was out of align.
Now you can see more details. The tailstock is sitting cockeyed and it is a little low.
I will test to see if the ways are twisted.
I really do not know what to do about the tailstock being low, shiming seems like it would be a real pain everytime I moved the tailstock. There is a tailstock on ebay for $179.00 which seems a bit much but I do have my stimulus check coming.
Anyone have a extra tailstock or know where I might find one?
Thanks for the help.
Ralph
?
|
??? ??? I wonder if the used the same body & a different base
thickness ? I was real close to making a pair of risers for my
SouthBend 9 but I finally found a guy to trade me for the 10 "
steady rest I hah
??? ??? animal
On 3/17/2021 7:12 PM, Bill in OKC too
via groups.io wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Should have mentioned that your tailstock isn't
identical to mine, sine your lathe is a 12" while mine is a
10" swing, but they're similar in construction.?
Also, Robert has a document in section 23 of
files that discusses the error in diameter errors in
tailstock height causes.?
Tailstock Height and Bed Wear
Errors.txt
Might not be as much trouble as
you seem to expect.?
HTH!
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers,
MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being
should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a
building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone,
comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:39:57 PM CDT, Ralph
Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
Old bench top:
?
New bench top:? Robert will be proud of me for
fastening down the lathe.
?
Tailstock alignment mark:
?
Tailstock alignment 3 inches from chuck:
?
Tailstock alignment 30 inches from chuck:
So I made up a new 1-1/2" bench top, working with
laminate at 32¡ã and below even in a daytime heated
shop was a challenge, that plus this was the first
time I did a benchtop/countertop.
I fastened the lathe down, as suggested by Robert and
others here in the forum.
I had reported a couple of weeks ago that my tailstock
was out of align.
Now you can see more details. The tailstock is sitting
cockeyed and it is a little low.
I will test to see if the ways are twisted.
I really do not know what to do about the tailstock
being low, shiming seems like it would be a real pain
everytime I moved the tailstock. There is a tailstock
on ebay for $179.00 which seems a bit much but I do
have my stimulus check coming.
Anyone have a extra tailstock or know where I might
find one?
Thanks for the help.
Ralph
?
|
I looked at part numbers. The base has the same # on both machine, but the top castings have different numbers. 10D3 for my 10", 10D5 for the 12" lathe. Assuming I looked at the correct 12" parts list. Could have happened. I suppose. :)
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 09:21:40 PM CDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? I wonder if the used the same body & a different base
thickness ? I was real close to making a pair of risers for my
SouthBend 9 but I finally found a guy to trade me for the 10 "
steady rest I hah
??? ??? animal
On 3/17/2021 7:12 PM, Bill in OKC too
via groups.io wrote:
Should have mentioned that your tailstock isn't
identical to mine, sine your lathe is a 12" while mine is a
10" swing, but they're similar in construction.?
Also, Robert has a document in section 23 of
files that discusses the error in diameter errors in
tailstock height causes.?
Tailstock Height and Bed Wear
Errors.txt
Might not be as much trouble as
you seem to expect.?
HTH!
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers,
MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being
should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a
building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone,
comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:39:57 PM CDT, Ralph
Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
Old bench top:
?
New bench top:? Robert will be proud of me for
fastening down the lathe.
?
Tailstock alignment mark:
?
Tailstock alignment 3 inches from chuck:
?
Tailstock alignment 30 inches from chuck:
So I made up a new 1-1/2" bench top, working with
laminate at 32¡ã and below even in a daytime heated
shop was a challenge, that plus this was the first
time I did a benchtop/countertop.
I fastened the lathe down, as suggested by Robert and
others here in the forum.
I had reported a couple of weeks ago that my tailstock
was out of align.
Now you can see more details. The tailstock is sitting
cockeyed and it is a little low.
I will test to see if the ways are twisted.
I really do not know what to do about the tailstock
being low, shiming seems like it would be a real pain
everytime I moved the tailstock. There is a tailstock
on ebay for $179.00 which seems a bit much but I do
have my stimulus check coming.
Anyone have a extra tailstock or know where I might
find one?
Thanks for the help.
Ralph
?
|
??? ??? well I guess I had a 50-50 chance on the part orientation
??? ??? animal
On 3/17/2021 8:29 PM, Bill in OKC too
via groups.io wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
I looked at part numbers. The base has the same # on both
machine, but the top castings have different numbers. 10D3
for my 10", 10D5 for the 12" lathe. Assuming I looked at the
correct 12" parts list. Could have happened. I suppose. :)
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers,
MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being
should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a
building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone,
comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 09:21:40 PM CDT, mike
allen <animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? I wonder if the used the same body & a
different base thickness ? I was real close to
making a pair of risers for my SouthBend 9 but I
finally found a guy to trade me for the 10 " steady
rest I hah
??? ??? animal
On
3/17/2021 7:12 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io
wrote:
Should have mentioned that your tailstock
isn't identical to mine, sine your lathe is a
12" while mine is a 10" swing, but they're
similar in construction.?
Also, Robert has a document in section 23 of
files that discusses the error in diameter
errors in tailstock height causes.?
Tailstock Height and Bed Wear
Errors.txt
Might not be as much trouble as you
seem to expect.?
HTH!
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to
change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a
building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone,
comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:39:57 PM
CDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...>
wrote:
Old bench top:
?
New bench top:? Robert will be proud of
me for fastening down the lathe.
?
Tailstock alignment mark:
?
Tailstock alignment 3 inches from
chuck:
?
Tailstock alignment 30 inches from
chuck:
So I made up a new 1-1/2" bench top,
working with laminate at 32¡ã and below
even in a daytime heated shop was a
challenge, that plus this was the first
time I did a benchtop/countertop.
I fastened the lathe down, as suggested by
Robert and others here in the forum.
I had reported a couple of weeks ago that
my tailstock was out of align.
Now you can see more details. The
tailstock is sitting cockeyed and it is a
little low.
I will test to see if the ways are
twisted.
I really do not know what to do about the
tailstock being low, shiming seems like it
would be a real pain everytime I moved the
tailstock. There is a tailstock on ebay
for $179.00 which seems a bit much but I
do have my stimulus check coming.
Anyone have a extra tailstock or know
where I might find one?
Thanks for the help.
Ralph
?
|
Thanks everyone that is real interesting about the two part body. Is there any specific documentation about the tailstock??
I have two holes on the?top of the tailstock one was for the oiler what was the other for?
I like the plumb bob setup for testing way twist, my workbench is way off?level so my machinist level is maxed out. I suppose I might try shimming the casters to get the bench more level.
Geez I only have a few more weeks of cold weather, soon I will be in the garden and installing a new roof and doing a 100 other projects that have to be done.
When I adjusted the tailstock right to left the screw on the front turned when I backed off the back screw but the screw on the back would not move in until?the tailstock was floating, not locked down. Is that to be expected?
Ralph
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 11:35 PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? well I guess I had a 50-50 chance on the part orientation
??? ??? animal
On 3/17/2021 8:29 PM, Bill in OKC too
via wrote:
I looked at part numbers. The base has the same # on both
machine, but the top castings have different numbers. 10D3
for my 10", 10D5 for the 12" lathe. Assuming I looked at the
correct 12" parts list. Could have happened. I suppose. :)
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers,
MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being
should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a
building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone,
comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 09:21:40 PM CDT, mike
allen <animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? I wonder if the used the same body & a
different base thickness ? I was real close to
making a pair of risers for my SouthBend 9 but I
finally found a guy to trade me for the 10 " steady
rest I hah
??? ??? animal
On
3/17/2021 7:12 PM, Bill in OKC too via
wrote:
Should have mentioned that your tailstock
isn't identical to mine, sine your lathe is a
12" while mine is a 10" swing, but they're
similar in construction.?
Also, Robert has a document in section 23 of
files that discusses the error in diameter
errors in tailstock height causes.?
Tailstock Height and Bed Wear
Errors.txt
Might not be as much trouble as you
seem to expect.?
HTH!
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to
change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a
building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone,
comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:39:57 PM
CDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...>
wrote:
Old bench top:
?
New bench top:? Robert will be proud of
me for fastening down the lathe.
?
Tailstock alignment mark:
?
Tailstock alignment 3 inches from
chuck:
?
Tailstock alignment 30 inches from
chuck:
So I made up a new 1-1/2" bench top,
working with laminate at 32¡ã and below
even in a daytime heated shop was a
challenge, that plus this was the first
time I did a benchtop/countertop.
I fastened the lathe down, as suggested by
Robert and others here in the forum.
I had reported a couple of weeks ago that
my tailstock was out of align.
Now you can see more details. The
tailstock is sitting cockeyed and it is a
little low.
I will test to see if the ways are
twisted.
I really do not know what to do about the
tailstock being low, shiming seems like it
would be a real pain everytime I moved the
tailstock. There is a tailstock on ebay
for $179.00 which seems a bit much but I
do have my stimulus check coming.
Anyone have a extra tailstock or know
where I might find one?
Thanks for the help.
Ralph
?
|
Are the Gibs adjustable? would that be where I need to correct the left to right angled alignment?
Would?I have to shim the Gib?
Ralph
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:12 AM Ralph Hulslander via <rhulslander= [email protected]> wrote: Thanks everyone that is real interesting about the two part body. Is there any specific documentation about the tailstock??
I have two holes on the?top of the tailstock one was for the oiler what was the other for?
I like the plumb bob setup for testing way twist, my workbench is way off?level so my machinist level is maxed out. I suppose I might try shimming the casters to get the bench more level.
Geez I only have a few more weeks of cold weather, soon I will be in the garden and installing a new roof and doing a 100 other projects that have to be done.
When I adjusted the tailstock right to left the screw on the front turned when I backed off the back screw but the screw on the back would not move in until?the tailstock was floating, not locked down. Is that to be expected?
Ralph
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 11:35 PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? well I guess I had a 50-50 chance on the part orientation
??? ??? animal
On 3/17/2021 8:29 PM, Bill in OKC too
via wrote:
I looked at part numbers. The base has the same # on both
machine, but the top castings have different numbers. 10D3
for my 10", 10D5 for the 12" lathe. Assuming I looked at the
correct 12" parts list. Could have happened. I suppose. :)
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers,
MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being
should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a
building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone,
comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 09:21:40 PM CDT, mike
allen <animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? I wonder if the used the same body & a
different base thickness ? I was real close to
making a pair of risers for my SouthBend 9 but I
finally found a guy to trade me for the 10 " steady
rest I hah
??? ??? animal
On
3/17/2021 7:12 PM, Bill in OKC too via
wrote:
Should have mentioned that your tailstock
isn't identical to mine, sine your lathe is a
12" while mine is a 10" swing, but they're
similar in construction.?
Also, Robert has a document in section 23 of
files that discusses the error in diameter
errors in tailstock height causes.?
Tailstock Height and Bed Wear
Errors.txt
Might not be as much trouble as you
seem to expect.?
HTH!
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to
change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a
building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone,
comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:39:57 PM
CDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...>
wrote:
Old bench top:
?
New bench top:? Robert will be proud of
me for fastening down the lathe.
?
Tailstock alignment mark:
?
Tailstock alignment 3 inches from
chuck:
?
Tailstock alignment 30 inches from
chuck:
So I made up a new 1-1/2" bench top,
working with laminate at 32¡ã and below
even in a daytime heated shop was a
challenge, that plus this was the first
time I did a benchtop/countertop.
I fastened the lathe down, as suggested by
Robert and others here in the forum.
I had reported a couple of weeks ago that
my tailstock was out of align.
Now you can see more details. The
tailstock is sitting cockeyed and it is a
little low.
I will test to see if the ways are
twisted.
I really do not know what to do about the
tailstock being low, shiming seems like it
would be a real pain everytime I moved the
tailstock. There is a tailstock on ebay
for $179.00 which seems a bit much but I
do have my stimulus check coming.
Anyone have a extra tailstock or know
where I might find one?
Thanks for the help.
Ralph
?
|
The older lathes have a hole for a dauber and white lead for lubricating the tip of the dead center. That may be one of the holes. Attached are a couple of photos from ebay, so you can see if they are like what you're seeing.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Thursday, March 18, 2021, 09:12:40 AM CDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
Thanks everyone that is real interesting about the two part body. Is there any specific documentation about the tailstock??
I have two holes on the?top of the tailstock one was for the oiler what was the other for?
I like the plumb bob setup for testing way twist, my workbench is way off?level so my machinist level is maxed out. I suppose I might try shimming the casters to get the bench more level.
Geez I only have a few more weeks of cold weather, soon I will be in the garden and installing a new roof and doing a 100 other projects that have to be done.
When I adjusted the tailstock right to left the screw on the front turned when I backed off the back screw but the screw on the back would not move in until?the tailstock was floating, not locked down. Is that to be expected?
Ralph
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 11:35 PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? well I guess I had a 50-50 chance on the part orientation
??? ??? animal
On 3/17/2021 8:29 PM, Bill in OKC too
via wrote:
I looked at part numbers. The base has the same # on both
machine, but the top castings have different numbers. 10D3
for my 10", 10D5 for the 12" lathe. Assuming I looked at the
correct 12" parts list. Could have happened. I suppose. :)
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers,
MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being
should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a
building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone,
comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 09:21:40 PM CDT, mike
allen <animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? I wonder if the used the same body & a
different base thickness ? I was real close to
making a pair of risers for my SouthBend 9 but I
finally found a guy to trade me for the 10 " steady
rest I hah
??? ??? animal
On
3/17/2021 7:12 PM, Bill in OKC too via
wrote:
Should have mentioned that your tailstock
isn't identical to mine, sine your lathe is a
12" while mine is a 10" swing, but they're
similar in construction.?
Also, Robert has a document in section 23 of
files that discusses the error in diameter
errors in tailstock height causes.?
Tailstock Height and Bed Wear
Errors.txt
Might not be as much trouble as you
seem to expect.?
HTH!
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to
change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a
building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone,
comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:39:57 PM
CDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...>
wrote:
Old bench top:
?
New bench top:? Robert will be proud of
me for fastening down the lathe.
?
Tailstock alignment mark:
?
Tailstock alignment 3 inches from
chuck:
?
Tailstock alignment 30 inches from
chuck:
So I made up a new 1-1/2" bench top,
working with laminate at 32¡ã and below
even in a daytime heated shop was a
challenge, that plus this was the first
time I did a benchtop/countertop.
I fastened the lathe down, as suggested by
Robert and others here in the forum.
I had reported a couple of weeks ago that
my tailstock was out of align.
Now you can see more details. The
tailstock is sitting cockeyed and it is a
little low.
I will test to see if the ways are
twisted.
I really do not know what to do about the
tailstock being low, shiming seems like it
would be a real pain everytime I moved the
tailstock. There is a tailstock on ebay
for $179.00 which seems a bit much but I
do have my stimulus check coming.
Anyone have a extra tailstock or know
where I might find one?
Thanks for the help.
Ralph
?
|
??? ??? you might try starting with a digital level that you can
zero on your bench & then put it on the lathe to get as close
as you can . Then take out your precision level & just work
till you get the same results moving across
??? ??? the bed
??? ??? animal
On 3/18/2021 7:12 AM, Ralph Hulslander
wrote:
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Thanks everyone that is real interesting about the
two part body. Is there any specific documentation about the
tailstock??
I have two holes on the?top of the tailstock one was for
the oiler what was the other for?
I like the plumb bob setup for testing way twist, my
workbench is way off?level so my machinist level is maxed out.
I suppose I might try shimming the casters to get the bench
more level.
Geez I only have a few more weeks of cold weather, soon I
will be in the garden and installing a new roof and doing a
100 other projects that have to be done.
When I adjusted the tailstock right to left the screw on
the front turned when I backed off the back screw but the
screw on the back would not move in until?the tailstock was
floating, not locked down. Is that to be expected?
Ralph
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 11:35
PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? well I guess I had a 50-50 chance on the part
orientation
??? ??? animal
On 3/17/2021 8:29 PM, Bill in OKC too via wrote:
I looked at part numbers. The base has the same #
on both machine, but the top castings have different
numbers. 10D3 for my 10", 10D5 for the 12" lathe.
Assuming I looked at the correct 12" parts list.
Could have happened. I suppose. :)
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to
change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a
building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone,
comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve
equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 09:21:40 PM CDT,
mike allen <animal@...>
wrote:
??? ??? I wonder if the used the same body
& a different base thickness ? I was
real close to making a pair of risers for my
SouthBend 9 but I finally found a guy to
trade me for the 10 " steady rest I hah
??? ??? animal
On 3/17/2021 7:12 PM, Bill in OKC too via
wrote:
Should have mentioned that your
tailstock isn't identical to mine, sine
your lathe is a 12" while mine is a 10"
swing, but they're similar in
construction.?
Also, Robert has a document in
section 23 of files that discusses the
error in diameter errors in tailstock
height causes.?
Tailstock Height and Bed Wear
Errors.txt
Might not be as much trouble as
you seem to expect.?
HTH!
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt,
USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be
able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship,
design a building, write a
sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set
a bone, comfort the dying, take
orders,
give orders, cooperate, act
alone, solve equations, analyze
a new
problem, pitch manure,
program a computer, cook a tasty
meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A.
Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021,
08:39:57 PM CDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...>
wrote:
Old bench top:
?
New bench top:? Robert will be
proud of me for fastening down the
lathe.
?
Tailstock alignment mark:
?
Tailstock alignment 3 inches
from chuck:
?
Tailstock alignment 30 inches
from chuck:
So I made up a new 1-1/2" bench
top, working with laminate at 32¡ã
and below even in a daytime heated
shop was a challenge, that plus
this was the first time I did a
benchtop/countertop.
I fastened the lathe down, as
suggested by Robert and others
here in the forum.
I had reported a couple of weeks
ago that my tailstock was out of
align.
Now you can see more details. The
tailstock is sitting cockeyed and
it is a little low.
I will test to see if the ways are
twisted.
I really do not know what to do
about the tailstock being low,
shiming seems like it would be a
real pain everytime I moved the
tailstock. There is a tailstock on
ebay for $179.00 which seems a bit
much but I do have my stimulus
check coming.
Anyone have a extra tailstock or
know where I might find one?
Thanks for the help.
Ralph
?
|
??? ??? Does the amount the tail stock is off change with the
quill all the way in &? then extended ?
??? ??? animal
On 3/18/2021 7:43 AM, Ralph Hulslander
wrote:
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Show quoted text
Are the Gibs adjustable? would that be where I need
to correct the left to right angled alignment?
Would?I have to shim the Gib?
Ralph
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:12
AM Ralph Hulslander via <rhulslander= [email protected]>
wrote:
Thanks everyone that is real interesting about
the two part body. Is there any specific documentation about
the tailstock??
I have two holes on the?top of the tailstock one was
for the oiler what was the other for?
I like the plumb bob setup for testing way twist, my
workbench is way off?level so my machinist level is maxed
out. I suppose I might try shimming the casters to get the
bench more level.
Geez I only have a few more weeks of cold weather, soon
I will be in the garden and installing a new roof and
doing a 100 other projects that have to be done.
When I adjusted the tailstock right to left the screw
on the front turned when I backed off the back screw but
the screw on the back would not move in until?the
tailstock was floating, not locked down. Is that to be
expected?
Ralph
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at
11:35 PM mike allen < animal@...>
wrote:
??? ??? well I guess I had a 50-50 chance on the part
orientation
??? ??? animal
On 3/17/2021 8:29 PM, Bill in OKC too via wrote:
I looked at part numbers. The base has the
same # on both machine, but the top castings
have different numbers. 10D3 for my 10", 10D5
for the 12" lathe. Assuming I looked at the
correct 12" parts list. Could have happened. I
suppose. :)
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to
change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a
building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone,
comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 09:21:40 PM
CDT, mike allen <animal@...>
wrote:
??? ??? I wonder if the used the same
body & a different base thickness ?
I was real close to making a pair of
risers for my SouthBend 9 but I finally
found a guy to trade me for the 10 "
steady rest I hah
??? ??? animal
On 3/17/2021 7:12 PM, Bill in OKC too
via
wrote:
Should have mentioned that your
tailstock isn't identical to mine,
sine your lathe is a 12" while mine
is a 10" swing, but they're similar
in construction.?
Also, Robert has a document in
section 23 of files that discusses
the error in diameter errors in
tailstock height causes.?
Tailstock Height and Bed
Wear Errors.txt
Might not be as much
trouble as you seem to expect.?
HTH!
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt,
USAF(Ret.)
A human being should
be able to change a diaper,
plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a
ship, design a building,
write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall,
set a bone, comfort the
dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate,
act alone, solve equations,
analyze a new
problem, pitch manure,
program a computer, cook a
tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die
gallantly. Specialization is
for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A.
Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021,
08:39:57 PM CDT, Ralph Hulslander
<rhulslander@...>
wrote:
Old bench top:
?
New bench top:? Robert will
be proud of me for fastening
down the lathe.
?
Tailstock alignment mark:
?
Tailstock alignment 3
inches from chuck:
?
Tailstock alignment 30
inches from chuck:
So I made up a new 1-1/2"
bench top, working with
laminate at 32¡ã and below even
in a daytime heated shop was a
challenge, that plus this was
the first time I did a
benchtop/countertop.
I fastened the lathe down, as
suggested by Robert and others
here in the forum.
I had reported a couple of
weeks ago that my tailstock
was out of align.
Now you can see more details.
The tailstock is sitting
cockeyed and it is a little
low.
I will test to see if the ways
are twisted.
I really do not know what to
do about the tailstock being
low, shiming seems like it
would be a real pain everytime
I moved the tailstock. There
is a tailstock on ebay for
$179.00 which seems a bit much
but I do have my stimulus
check coming.
Anyone have a extra tailstock
or know where I might find
one?
Thanks for the help.
Ralph
?
|
Bill, I "think" it is the top item which is some sort of lock which I am missing.
I am missing the oil dauber but that does not affect the tailstock operation as the lock might.
Mike, good idea with the electronic level.
I have not tried moving the quill in and out another good idea.
How does one?separate?the tailstock? Do you just beat it apart? I do not see any screws holding it together.
Ralph
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 12:15 PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? Does the amount the tail stock is off change with the
quill all the way in &? then extended ?
??? ??? animal
On 3/18/2021 7:43 AM, Ralph Hulslander
wrote:
Are the Gibs adjustable? would that be where I need
to correct the left to right angled alignment?
Would?I have to shim the Gib?
Ralph
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:12
AM Ralph Hulslander via <rhulslander= [email protected]>
wrote:
Thanks everyone that is real interesting about
the two part body. Is there any specific documentation about
the tailstock??
I have two holes on the?top of the tailstock one was
for the oiler what was the other for?
I like the plumb bob setup for testing way twist, my
workbench is way off?level so my machinist level is maxed
out. I suppose I might try shimming the casters to get the
bench more level.
Geez I only have a few more weeks of cold weather, soon
I will be in the garden and installing a new roof and
doing a 100 other projects that have to be done.
When I adjusted the tailstock right to left the screw
on the front turned when I backed off the back screw but
the screw on the back would not move in until?the
tailstock was floating, not locked down. Is that to be
expected?
Ralph
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at
11:35 PM mike allen < animal@...>
wrote:
??? ??? well I guess I had a 50-50 chance on the part
orientation
??? ??? animal
On 3/17/2021 8:29 PM, Bill in OKC too via wrote:
I looked at part numbers. The base has the
same # on both machine, but the top castings
have different numbers. 10D3 for my 10", 10D5
for the 12" lathe. Assuming I looked at the
correct 12" parts list. Could have happened. I
suppose. :)
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to
change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a
building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone,
comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 09:21:40 PM
CDT, mike allen <animal@...>
wrote:
??? ??? I wonder if the used the same
body & a different base thickness ?
I was real close to making a pair of
risers for my SouthBend 9 but I finally
found a guy to trade me for the 10 "
steady rest I hah
??? ??? animal
On 3/17/2021 7:12 PM, Bill in OKC too
via
wrote:
Should have mentioned that your
tailstock isn't identical to mine,
sine your lathe is a 12" while mine
is a 10" swing, but they're similar
in construction.?
Also, Robert has a document in
section 23 of files that discusses
the error in diameter errors in
tailstock height causes.?
Tailstock Height and Bed
Wear Errors.txt
Might not be as much
trouble as you seem to expect.?
HTH!
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt,
USAF(Ret.)
A human being should
be able to change a diaper,
plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a
ship, design a building,
write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall,
set a bone, comfort the
dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate,
act alone, solve equations,
analyze a new
problem, pitch manure,
program a computer, cook a
tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die
gallantly. Specialization is
for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A.
Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021,
08:39:57 PM CDT, Ralph Hulslander
<rhulslander@...>
wrote:
Old bench top:
?
New bench top:? Robert will
be proud of me for fastening
down the lathe.
?
Tailstock alignment mark:
?
Tailstock alignment 3
inches from chuck:
?
Tailstock alignment 30
inches from chuck:
So I made up a new 1-1/2"
bench top, working with
laminate at 32¡ã and below even
in a daytime heated shop was a
challenge, that plus this was
the first time I did a
benchtop/countertop.
I fastened the lathe down, as
suggested by Robert and others
here in the forum.
I had reported a couple of
weeks ago that my tailstock
was out of align.
Now you can see more details.
The tailstock is sitting
cockeyed and it is a little
low.
I will test to see if the ways
are twisted.
I really do not know what to
do about the tailstock being
low, shiming seems like it
would be a real pain everytime
I moved the tailstock. There
is a tailstock on ebay for
$179.00 which seems a bit much
but I do have my stimulus
check coming.
Anyone have a extra tailstock
or know where I might find
one?
Thanks for the help.
Ralph
?
|
When I was setting up my lathe to bore a motorcycle cylinder I tried a laser level, shining it on a wall 25" away. I put it up near the head stock then back near the tail end of the lathe. I got it as visually close as I could but was still getting a tapered cylinder. I decided to just keep boring and shimming until I had a straight hole. After a couple of tries I had the hole straight to within .0002" over a 4" length. I was pretty satisfied with that.
Rick H
Bill, I "think" it is the top item which is some sort of lock which I am missing.
I am missing the oil dauber but that does not affect the tailstock operation as the lock might.
Mike, good idea with the electronic level.
I have not tried moving the quill in and out another good idea.
How does one?separate?the tailstock? Do you just beat it apart? I do not see any screws holding it together.
Ralph
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 12:15 PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? Does the amount the tail stock is off change with the
quill all the way in &? then extended ?
??? ??? animal
On 3/18/2021 7:43 AM, Ralph Hulslander
wrote:
Are the Gibs adjustable? would that be where I need
to correct the left to right angled alignment?
Would?I have to shim the Gib?
Ralph
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:12
AM Ralph Hulslander via <rhulslander= [email protected]>
wrote:
Thanks everyone that is real interesting about
the two part body. Is there any specific documentation about
the tailstock??
I have two holes on the?top of the tailstock one was
for the oiler what was the other for?
I like the plumb bob setup for testing way twist, my
workbench is way off?level so my machinist level is maxed
out. I suppose I might try shimming the casters to get the
bench more level.
Geez I only have a few more weeks of cold weather, soon
I will be in the garden and installing a new roof and
doing a 100 other projects that have to be done.
When I adjusted the tailstock right to left the screw
on the front turned when I backed off the back screw but
the screw on the back would not move in until?the
tailstock was floating, not locked down. Is that to be
expected?
Ralph
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at
11:35 PM mike allen < animal@...>
wrote:
??? ??? well I guess I had a 50-50 chance on the part
orientation
??? ??? animal
On 3/17/2021 8:29 PM, Bill in OKC too via wrote:
I looked at part numbers. The base has the
same # on both machine, but the top castings
have different numbers. 10D3 for my 10", 10D5
for the 12" lathe. Assuming I looked at the
correct 12" parts list. Could have happened. I
suppose. :)
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to
change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a
building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone,
comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 09:21:40 PM
CDT, mike allen <animal@...>
wrote:
??? ??? I wonder if the used the same
body & a different base thickness ?
I was real close to making a pair of
risers for my SouthBend 9 but I finally
found a guy to trade me for the 10 "
steady rest I hah
??? ??? animal
On 3/17/2021 7:12 PM, Bill in OKC too
via
wrote:
Should have mentioned that your
tailstock isn't identical to mine,
sine your lathe is a 12" while mine
is a 10" swing, but they're similar
in construction.?
Also, Robert has a document in
section 23 of files that discusses
the error in diameter errors in
tailstock height causes.?
Tailstock Height and Bed
Wear Errors.txt
Might not be as much
trouble as you seem to expect.?
HTH!
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt,
USAF(Ret.)
A human being should
be able to change a diaper,
plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a
ship, design a building,
write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall,
set a bone, comfort the
dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate,
act alone, solve equations,
analyze a new
problem, pitch manure,
program a computer, cook a
tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die
gallantly. Specialization is
for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A.
Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021,
08:39:57 PM CDT, Ralph Hulslander
<rhulslander@...>
wrote:
Old bench top:
?
New bench top:? Robert will
be proud of me for fastening
down the lathe.
?
Tailstock alignment mark:
?
Tailstock alignment 3
inches from chuck:
?
Tailstock alignment 30
inches from chuck:
So I made up a new 1-1/2"
bench top, working with
laminate at 32¡ã and below even
in a daytime heated shop was a
challenge, that plus this was
the first time I did a
benchtop/countertop.
I fastened the lathe down, as
suggested by Robert and others
here in the forum.
I had reported a couple of
weeks ago that my tailstock
was out of align.
Now you can see more details.
The tailstock is sitting
cockeyed and it is a little
low.
I will test to see if the ways
are twisted.
I really do not know what to
do about the tailstock being
low, shiming seems like it
would be a real pain everytime
I moved the tailstock. There
is a tailstock on ebay for
$179.00 which seems a bit much
but I do have my stimulus
check coming.
Anyone have a extra tailstock
or know where I might find
one?
Thanks for the help.
Ralph
?
|
Rick ,
Just curious as to what you used to measure the bore to within .0002 ¡° . . .? that is 0.2 of one thou? . . .? ?
Keep well , ? Carvel ?
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Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 9:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Craftsman 101.07403 12" Lathe Tailstock Alignment ? When I was setting up my lathe to bore a motorcycle cylinder I tried a laser level, shining it on a wall 25" away. I put it up near the head stock then back near the tail end of the lathe. I got it as visually close as I could but was still getting a tapered cylinder. I decided to just keep boring and shimming until I had a straight hole. After a couple of tries I had the hole straight to within .0002" over a 4" length. I was pretty satisfied with that. ? Bill, I "think" it is the top item which is some sort of lock which I am missing. I am missing the oil dauber but that does not affect the tailstock operation as the lock might. Mike, good idea with the electronic level. I have not tried moving the quill in and out another good idea. How does one?separate?the tailstock? Do you just beat it apart? I do not see any screws holding it together. ? On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 12:15 PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote: ??? ??? Does the amount the tail stock is off change with the quill all the way in &? then extended ? ??? ??? animal On 3/18/2021 7:43 AM, Ralph Hulslander wrote: Are the Gibs adjustable? would that be where I need to correct the left to right angled alignment? Would?I have to shim the Gib? ? On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:12 AM Ralph Hulslander via <rhulslander=[email protected]> wrote: Thanks everyone that is real interesting about the two part body. Is there any specific documentation about the tailstock?? I have two holes on the?top of the tailstock one was for the oiler what was the other for? I like the plumb bob setup for testing way twist, my workbench is way off?level so my machinist level is maxed out. I suppose I might try shimming the casters to get the bench more level. Geez I only have a few more weeks of cold weather, soon I will be in the garden and installing a new roof and doing a 100 other projects that have to be done. When I adjusted the tailstock right to left the screw on the front turned when I backed off the back screw but the screw on the back would not move in until?the tailstock was floating, not locked down. Is that to be expected? ? On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 11:35 PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote: ??? ??? well I guess I had a 50-50 chance on the part orientation ??? ??? animal On 3/17/2021 8:29 PM, Bill in OKC too via wrote: I looked at part numbers. The base has the same # on both machine, but the top castings have different numbers. 10D3 for my 10", 10D5 for the 12" lathe. Assuming I looked at the correct 12" parts list. Could have happened. I suppose. :) William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein) ? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 09:21:40 PM CDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote: ??? ??? I wonder if the used the same body & a different base thickness ? I was real close to making a pair of risers for my SouthBend 9 but I finally found a guy to trade me for the 10 " steady rest I hah ??? ??? animal On 3/17/2021 7:12 PM, Bill in OKC too via wrote: Should have mentioned that your tailstock isn't identical to mine, sine your lathe is a 12" while mine is a 10" swing, but they're similar in construction.? Also, Robert has a document in section 23 of files that discusses the error in diameter errors in tailstock height causes.? Tailstock Height and Bed Wear Errors.txt Might not be as much trouble as you seem to expect.? William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein) ? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:39:57 PM CDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote: New bench top:? Robert will be proud of me for fastening down the lathe. Tailstock alignment mark: Tailstock alignment 3 inches from chuck: Tailstock alignment 30 inches from chuck:
So I made up a new 1-1/2" bench top, working with laminate at 32¡ã and below even in a daytime heated shop was a challenge, that plus this was the first time I did a benchtop/countertop.
I fastened the lathe down, as suggested by Robert and others here in the forum.
I had reported a couple of weeks ago that my tailstock was out of align.
Now you can see more details. The tailstock is sitting cockeyed and it is a little low.
I will test to see if the ways are twisted.
I really do not know what to do about the tailstock being low, shiming seems like it would be a real pain everytime I moved the tailstock. There is a tailstock on ebay for $179.00 which seems a bit much but I do have my stimulus check coming.
Anyone have a extra tailstock or know where I might find one?
Thanks for the help.
Ralph
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You can buy MT 2 reamers 1 a rough cut and 1 finish reamer the hole you start with must be just a bit smaller as the MT2 taper It will work great but you must go slow speed
GP
On Thursday, March 18, 2021, 03:44:36 PM EDT, cwlathes <carvelw@...> wrote:
Rick ,
Just curious as to what you used to measure the bore to within .0002 ¡° . . .? that is 0.2 of one thou? . . .? ?
Keep well , ? Carvel
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 9:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Craftsman 101.07403 12" Lathe Tailstock Alignment ? When I was setting up my lathe to bore a motorcycle cylinder I tried a laser level, shining it on a wall 25" away. I put it up near the head stock then back near the tail end of the lathe. I got it as visually close as I could but was still getting a tapered cylinder. I decided to just keep boring and shimming until I had a straight hole. After a couple of tries I had the hole straight to within .0002" over a 4" length. I was pretty satisfied with that. ? Bill, I "think" it is the top item which is some sort of lock which I am missing. I am missing the oil dauber but that does not affect the tailstock operation as the lock might. Mike, good idea with the electronic level. I have not tried moving the quill in and out another good idea. How does one?separate?the tailstock? Do you just beat it apart? I do not see any screws holding it together. ? On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 12:15 PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote: ??? ??? Does the amount the tail stock is off change with the quill all the way in &? then extended ? ??? ??? animal On 3/18/2021 7:43 AM, Ralph Hulslander wrote: Are the Gibs adjustable? would that be where I need to correct the left to right angled alignment? Would?I have to shim the Gib? ? On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:12 AM Ralph Hulslander via <rhulslander=[email protected]> wrote: Thanks everyone that is real interesting about the two part body. Is there any specific documentation about the tailstock?? I have two holes on the?top of the tailstock one was for the oiler what was the other for? I like the plumb bob setup for testing way twist, my workbench is way off?level so my machinist level is maxed out. I suppose I might try shimming the casters to get the bench more level. Geez I only have a few more weeks of cold weather, soon I will be in the garden and installing a new roof and doing a 100 other projects that have to be done. When I adjusted the tailstock right to left the screw on the front turned when I backed off the back screw but the screw on the back would not move in until?the tailstock was floating, not locked down. Is that to be expected? ? On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 11:35 PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote: ??? ??? well I guess I had a 50-50 chance on the part orientation ??? ??? animal On 3/17/2021 8:29 PM, Bill in OKC too via wrote: I looked at part numbers. The base has the same # on both machine, but the top castings have different numbers. 10D3 for my 10", 10D5 for the 12" lathe. Assuming I looked at the correct 12" parts list. Could have happened. I suppose. :) William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein) ? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 09:21:40 PM CDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote: ??? ??? I wonder if the used the same body & a different base thickness ? I was real close to making a pair of risers for my SouthBend 9 but I finally found a guy to trade me for the 10 " steady rest I hah ??? ??? animal On 3/17/2021 7:12 PM, Bill in OKC too via wrote: Should have mentioned that your tailstock isn't identical to mine, sine your lathe is a 12" while mine is a 10" swing, but they're similar in construction.? Also, Robert has a document in section 23 of files that discusses the error in diameter errors in tailstock height causes.? Tailstock Height and Bed Wear Errors.txt Might not be as much trouble as you seem to expect.? William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein) ? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:39:57 PM CDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote: New bench top:? Robert will be proud of me for fastening down the lathe. Tailstock alignment mark: Tailstock alignment 3 inches from chuck: Tailstock alignment 30 inches from chuck:
So I made up a new 1-1/2" bench top, working with laminate at 32¡ã and below even in a daytime heated shop was a challenge, that plus this was the first time I did a benchtop/countertop.
I fastened the lathe down, as suggested by Robert and others here in the forum.
I had reported a couple of weeks ago that my tailstock was out of align.
Now you can see more details. The tailstock is sitting cockeyed and it is a little low.
I will test to see if the ways are twisted.
I really do not know what to do about the tailstock being low, shiming seems like it would be a real pain everytime I moved the tailstock. There is a tailstock on ebay for $179.00 which seems a bit much but I do have my stimulus check coming.
Anyone have a extra tailstock or know where I might find one?
Thanks for the help.
Ralph
?
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in order to properly measure .0002 you have to be in a temperature-controlled room
just looking at it will cause it to change a .0001 or so
breathe on it and fugetaboutit
so i dont think you were able to measure it on the lathe in the bore in your motorcycle shop with the door opening and closing all the time
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When I was setting up my lathe to bore a motorcycle cylinder I tried a laser level, shining it on a wall 25" away. I put it up near the head stock then back near the tail end of the lathe. I got it as visually close as I could but was still getting
a tapered cylinder. I decided to just keep boring and shimming until I had a straight hole. After a couple of tries I had the hole straight to within .0002" over a 4" length. I was pretty satisfied with that.
Rick H
Bill, I "think" it is the top item which is some sort of lock which I am missing.
I am missing the oil dauber but that does not affect the tailstock operation as the lock might.
Mike, good idea with the electronic level.
I have not tried moving the quill in and out another good idea.
How does one?separate?the tailstock? Do you just beat it apart? I do not see any screws holding it together.
Ralph
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 12:15 PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? Does the amount the tail stock is off change with the quill all the way in &? then extended ?
??? ??? animal
On 3/18/2021 7:43 AM, Ralph Hulslander wrote:
Are the Gibs adjustable? would that be where I need to correct the left to right angled alignment?
Would?I have to shim the Gib?
Ralph
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:12 AM Ralph Hulslander via
<rhulslander= [email protected]> wrote:
Thanks everyone that is real interesting about the two part body. Is there any specific documentation about the tailstock??
I have two holes on the?top of the tailstock one was for the oiler what was the other for?
I like the plumb bob setup for testing way twist, my workbench is way off?level so my machinist level is maxed out. I suppose I might try shimming the casters to get the bench more level.
Geez I only have a few more weeks of cold weather, soon I will be in the garden and installing a new roof and doing a 100 other projects that have to be done.
When I adjusted the tailstock right to left the screw on the front turned when I backed off the back screw but the screw on the back would not move in until?the tailstock was floating, not locked down. Is that to be expected?
Ralph
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 11:35 PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? well I guess I had a 50-50 chance on the part orientation
??? ??? animal
On 3/17/2021 8:29 PM, Bill in OKC too via wrote:
I looked at part numbers. The base has the same # on both machine, but the top castings have different numbers. 10D3 for my 10", 10D5 for the 12" lathe. Assuming I looked at the correct 12" parts list. Could have happened. I suppose. :)
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 09:21:40 PM CDT, mike allen
<animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? I wonder if the used the same body & a different base thickness ? I was real close to making a pair of risers for my SouthBend 9 but I finally found a guy to trade me for the 10 " steady rest I hah
??? ??? animal
On 3/17/2021 7:12 PM, Bill in OKC too via wrote:
Should have mentioned that your tailstock isn't identical to mine, sine your lathe is a 12" while mine is a 10" swing, but they're similar in construction.?
Also, Robert has a document in section 23 of files that discusses the error in diameter errors in tailstock height causes.?
Tailstock Height and Bed Wear Errors.txt
Might not be as much trouble as you seem to expect.?
HTH!
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:39:57 PM CDT, Ralph Hulslander
<rhulslander@...> wrote:
Old bench top:
?
New bench top:? Robert will be proud of me for fastening down the lathe.
?
Tailstock alignment mark:
?
Tailstock alignment 3 inches from chuck:
?
Tailstock alignment 30 inches from chuck:
So I made up a new 1-1/2" bench top, working with laminate at 32¡ã and below even in a daytime heated shop was a challenge, that plus this was the first time I did a benchtop/countertop.
I fastened the lathe down, as suggested by Robert and others here in the forum.
I had reported a couple of weeks ago that my tailstock was out of align.
Now you can see more details. The tailstock is sitting cockeyed and it is a little low.
I will test to see if the ways are twisted.
I really do not know what to do about the tailstock being low, shiming seems like it would be a real pain everytime I moved the tailstock. There is a tailstock on ebay for $179.00 which seems a bit much but I do have my stimulus check coming.
Anyone have a extra tailstock or know where I might find one?
Thanks for the help.
Ralph
?
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Fred ,
I was thinking the same thing .
I wonder if Rick meant .002¡± i.e. 2 thou ?
Regards,
Carvel ?
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Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 10:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Craftsman 101.07403 12" Lathe Tailstock Alignment? in order to properly measure .0002 you have to be in a temperature-controlled room just looking at it will cause it to change a .0001 or so breathe on it and fugetaboutit so i dont think you were able to measure it on the lathe in the bore in your motorcycle shop with the door opening and closing all the time
When I was setting up my lathe to bore a motorcycle cylinder I tried a laser level, shining it on a wall 25" away. I put it up near the head stock then back near the tail end of the lathe. I got it as visually close as I could but was still getting a tapered cylinder. I decided to just keep boring and shimming until I had a straight hole. After a couple of tries I had the hole straight to within .0002" over a 4" length. I was pretty satisfied with that. ? Bill, I "think" it is the top item which is some sort of lock which I am missing. I am missing the oil dauber but that does not affect the tailstock operation as the lock might. Mike, good idea with the electronic level. I have not tried moving the quill in and out another good idea. How does one?separate?the tailstock? Do you just beat it apart? I do not see any screws holding it together. ? On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 12:15 PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote: ??? ??? Does the amount the tail stock is off change with the quill all the way in &? then extended ? ??? ??? animal On 3/18/2021 7:43 AM, Ralph Hulslander wrote: Are the Gibs adjustable? would that be where I need to correct the left to right angled alignment? Would?I have to shim the Gib? ? On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:12 AM Ralph Hulslander via <rhulslander=[email protected]> wrote: Thanks everyone that is real interesting about the two part body. Is there any specific documentation about the tailstock?? I have two holes on the?top of the tailstock one was for the oiler what was the other for? I like the plumb bob setup for testing way twist, my workbench is way off?level so my machinist level is maxed out. I suppose I might try shimming the casters to get the bench more level. Geez I only have a few more weeks of cold weather, soon I will be in the garden and installing a new roof and doing a 100 other projects that have to be done. When I adjusted the tailstock right to left the screw on the front turned when I backed off the back screw but the screw on the back would not move in until?the tailstock was floating, not locked down. Is that to be expected? ? On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 11:35 PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote: ??? ??? well I guess I had a 50-50 chance on the part orientation ??? ??? animal On 3/17/2021 8:29 PM, Bill in OKC too via wrote: I looked at part numbers. The base has the same # on both machine, but the top castings have different numbers. 10D3 for my 10", 10D5 for the 12" lathe. Assuming I looked at the correct 12" parts list. Could have happened. I suppose. :) William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein) ? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 09:21:40 PM CDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote: ??? ??? I wonder if the used the same body & a different base thickness ? I was real close to making a pair of risers for my SouthBend 9 but I finally found a guy to trade me for the 10 " steady rest I hah ??? ??? animal On 3/17/2021 7:12 PM, Bill in OKC too via wrote: Should have mentioned that your tailstock isn't identical to mine, sine your lathe is a 12" while mine is a 10" swing, but they're similar in construction.? Also, Robert has a document in section 23 of files that discusses the error in diameter errors in tailstock height causes.? Tailstock Height and Bed Wear Errors.txt Might not be as much trouble as you seem to expect.? William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein) ? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:39:57 PM CDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote: New bench top:? Robert will be proud of me for fastening down the lathe. Tailstock alignment mark: Tailstock alignment 3 inches from chuck: Tailstock alignment 30 inches from chuck:
So I made up a new 1-1/2" bench top, working with laminate at 32¡ã and below even in a daytime heated shop was a challenge, that plus this was the first time I did a benchtop/countertop.
I fastened the lathe down, as suggested by Robert and others here in the forum.
I had reported a couple of weeks ago that my tailstock was out of align.
Now you can see more details. The tailstock is sitting cockeyed and it is a little low.
I will test to see if the ways are twisted.
I really do not know what to do about the tailstock being low, shiming seems like it would be a real pain everytime I moved the tailstock. There is a tailstock on ebay for $179.00 which seems a bit much but I do have my stimulus check coming.
Anyone have a extra tailstock or know where I might find one?
Thanks for the help.
Ralph
?
|
We have bore gauges at work that measure within .0001", yes a tenth
of a thou.? Easy to use to check taper in a bore but like you said,
the measurement may be different later if the temperature changes.?
It should still show the same amount of taper, just a different
measurement.
Bruce Monson
bmonson61@...
cwlathes wrote:
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Fred
,
I was thinking the same thing .
I wonder if Rick meant .002¡± i.e. 2 thou ?
Regards,
Carvel
?
?
in order to properly measure .0002 you have
to be in a temperature-controlled room
just looking at it will cause it to change a
.0001 or so
breathe on it and fugetaboutit
so i dont think you were able to measure it
on the lathe in the bore in your motorcycle shop with the
door opening and closing all the time
When I was setting up my lathe to bore a
motorcycle cylinder I tried a laser level, shining it
on a wall 25" away. I put it up near the head stock
then back near the tail end of the lathe. I got it as
visually close as I could but was still getting a
tapered cylinder. I decided to just keep boring and
shimming until I had a straight hole. After a couple
of tries I had the hole straight to within .0002" over
a 4" length. I was pretty satisfied with that.
?
Bill, I "think" it is the top item
which is some sort of lock which I am missing.
I am missing the oil dauber but
that does not affect the tailstock operation as
the lock might.
Mike, good idea with the
electronic level.
I have not tried moving the quill
in and out another good idea.
How does one?separate?the
tailstock? Do you just beat it apart? I do not
see any screws holding it together.
?
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 12:15 PM
mike allen <animal@...>
wrote:
??? ??? Does the amount the tail stock is off
change with the quill all the way in &? then
extended ?
??? ??? animal
On 3/18/2021 7:43 AM,
Ralph Hulslander wrote:
Are the Gibs adjustable?
would that be where I need to correct the
left to right angled alignment?
Would?I have to shim
the Gib?
?
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021
at 10:12 AM Ralph Hulslander via
<rhulslander=[email protected]>
wrote:
Thanks everyone that
is real interesting about the two part
body. Is there any specific
documentation about the tailstock??
I have two holes
on the?top of the tailstock one was
for the oiler what was the other
for?
I like the plumb
bob setup for testing way twist, my
workbench is way off?level so my
machinist level is maxed out. I
suppose I might try shimming the
casters to get the bench more level.
Geez I only have a
few more weeks of cold weather, soon
I will be in the garden and
installing a new roof and doing a
100 other projects that have to be
done.
When I adjusted
the tailstock right to left the
screw on the front turned when I
backed off the back screw but the
screw on the back would not move in
until?the tailstock was floating,
not locked down. Is that to be
expected?
?
On Wed, Mar 17,
2021 at 11:35 PM mike allen <animal@...>
wrote:
??? ??? well I guess I had a 50-50
chance on the part orientation
??? ??? animal
On 3/17/2021
8:29 PM, Bill in OKC too via
wrote:
I looked
at part numbers. The base
has the same # on both
machine, but the top
castings have different
numbers. 10D3 for my 10",
10D5 for the 12" lathe.
Assuming I looked at the
correct 12" parts list.
Could have happened. I
suppose. :)
William R.
Meyers, MSgt,
USAF(Ret.)
A human
being should be able
to change a diaper,
plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn
a ship, design a
building, write a
sonnet, balance
accounts, build a
wall, set a bone,
comfort the dying,
take orders,
give orders,
cooperate, act
alone, solve
equations, analyze a
new
problem, pitch
manure, program a
computer, cook a
tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die
gallantly.
Specialization is
for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert
A. Heinlein)
?
On
Wednesday, March 17,
2021, 09:21:40 PM CDT,
mike allen <animal@...>
wrote:
??? ??? I wonder if
the used the same body
& a different base
thickness ? I was real
close to making a pair
of risers for my
SouthBend 9 but I
finally found a guy to
trade me for the 10 "
steady rest I hah
??? ??? animal
On
3/17/2021 7:12 PM,
Bill in OKC too
via wrote:
Should have
mentioned that
your tailstock
isn't
identical to
mine, sine
your lathe is
a 12" while
mine is a 10"
swing, but
they're
similar in
construction.?
Also,
Robert has a
document in
section 23 of
files that
discusses the
error in
diameter
errors in
tailstock
height
causes.?
Tailstock
Height and Bed
Wear
Errors.txt
Might not
be as much
trouble as you
seem to
expect.?
William R.
Meyers, MSgt,
USAF(Ret.)
A human
being should
be able to
change a
diaper, plan
an invasion,
butcher a hog,
conn a ship,
design a
building,
write a
sonnet,
balance
accounts,
build a wall,
set a bone,
comfort the
dying, take
orders,
give orders,
cooperate, act
alone, solve
equations,
analyze a new
problem, pitch
manure,
program a
computer, cook
a tasty meal,
fight
efficiently,
die gallantly.
Specialization
is for
insects.
LAZARUS LONG
(Robert A.
Heinlein)
?
On
Wednesday,
March 17,
2021, 08:39:57
PM CDT, Ralph
Hulslander <rhulslander@...>
wrote:
New bench
top:? Robert
will be proud
of me for
fastening down
the lathe.
Tailstock
alignment
mark:
Tailstock
alignment 3
inches from
chuck:
Tailstock
alignment 30
inches from
chuck:
So I made up a
new 1-1/2"
bench top,
working with
laminate at
32¡ã and below
even in a
daytime heated
shop was a
challenge,
that plus this
was the first
time I did a
benchtop/countertop.
I fastened the
lathe down, as
suggested by
Robert and
others here in
the forum.
I had reported
a couple of
weeks ago that
my tailstock
was out of
align.
Now you can
see more
details. The
tailstock is
sitting
cockeyed and
it is a little
low.
I will test to
see if the
ways are
twisted.
I really do
not know what
to do about
the tailstock
being low,
shiming seems
like it would
be a real pain
everytime I
moved the
tailstock.
There is a
tailstock on
ebay for
$179.00 which
seems a bit
much but I do
have my
stimulus check
coming.
Anyone have a
extra
tailstock or
know where I
might find
one?
Thanks for the
help.
Ralph
?
|
I understand your surprise. I have the lathe set up in my basement where the temperature is pretty well controlled. And the cylinder is a 4lb chunk of cast iron which isn't going to change size very quickly. I'd have been happy to have it straight within .001" but after checking it several times, because I had trouble believing it myself, I decided I had lucked out big time.?
I used to work on a Brown & Sharpe cylindrical grinder so I'm familiar with what .0002" is. I was as surprised as you guys to?have hit it on the lathe.
Rick H
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 5:11 PM cwlathes < carvelw@...> wrote: Fred ,
I was thinking the same thing .
I wonder if Rick meant .002¡± i.e. 2 thou ?
Regards,
Carvel ? ? in order to properly measure .0002 you have to be in a temperature-controlled room just looking at it will cause it to change a .0001 or so breathe on it and fugetaboutit so i dont think you were able to measure it on the lathe in the bore in your motorcycle shop with the door opening and closing all the time
When I was setting up my lathe to bore a motorcycle cylinder I tried a laser level, shining it on a wall 25" away. I put it up near the head stock then back near the tail end of the lathe. I got it as visually close as I could but was still getting a tapered cylinder. I decided to just keep boring and shimming until I had a straight hole. After a couple of tries I had the hole straight to within .0002" over a 4" length. I was pretty satisfied with that. ? Bill, I "think" it is the top item which is some sort of lock which I am missing. I am missing the oil dauber but that does not affect the tailstock operation as the lock might. Mike, good idea with the electronic level. I have not tried moving the quill in and out another good idea. How does one?separate?the tailstock? Do you just beat it apart? I do not see any screws holding it together. ? On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 12:15 PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote: ??? ??? Does the amount the tail stock is off change with the quill all the way in &? then extended ? ??? ??? animal On 3/18/2021 7:43 AM, Ralph Hulslander wrote: Are the Gibs adjustable? would that be where I need to correct the left to right angled alignment? Would?I have to shim the Gib? ? On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:12 AM Ralph Hulslander via <rhulslander=[email protected]> wrote: Thanks everyone that is real interesting about the two part body. Is there any specific documentation about the tailstock?? I have two holes on the?top of the tailstock one was for the oiler what was the other for? I like the plumb bob setup for testing way twist, my workbench is way off?level so my machinist level is maxed out. I suppose I might try shimming the casters to get the bench more level. Geez I only have a few more weeks of cold weather, soon I will be in the garden and installing a new roof and doing a 100 other projects that have to be done. When I adjusted the tailstock right to left the screw on the front turned when I backed off the back screw but the screw on the back would not move in until?the tailstock was floating, not locked down. Is that to be expected? ? On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 11:35 PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote: ??? ??? well I guess I had a 50-50 chance on the part orientation ??? ??? animal On 3/17/2021 8:29 PM, Bill in OKC too via wrote: I looked at part numbers. The base has the same # on both machine, but the top castings have different numbers. 10D3 for my 10", 10D5 for the 12" lathe. Assuming I looked at the correct 12" parts list. Could have happened. I suppose. :) William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
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LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein) ? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 09:21:40 PM CDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote: ??? ??? I wonder if the used the same body & a different base thickness ? I was real close to making a pair of risers for my SouthBend 9 but I finally found a guy to trade me for the 10 " steady rest I hah ??? ??? animal On 3/17/2021 7:12 PM, Bill in OKC too via wrote: Should have mentioned that your tailstock isn't identical to mine, sine your lathe is a 12" while mine is a 10" swing, but they're similar in construction.? Also, Robert has a document in section 23 of files that discusses the error in diameter errors in tailstock height causes.? Tailstock Height and Bed Wear Errors.txt Might not be as much trouble as you seem to expect.? William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein) ? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:39:57 PM CDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote: New bench top:? Robert will be proud of me for fastening down the lathe. Tailstock alignment mark: Tailstock alignment 3 inches from chuck: Tailstock alignment 30 inches from chuck:
So I made up a new 1-1/2" bench top, working with laminate at 32¡ã and below even in a daytime heated shop was a challenge, that plus this was the first time I did a benchtop/countertop.
I fastened the lathe down, as suggested by Robert and others here in the forum.
I had reported a couple of weeks ago that my tailstock was out of align.
Now you can see more details. The tailstock is sitting cockeyed and it is a little low.
I will test to see if the ways are twisted.
I really do not know what to do about the tailstock being low, shiming seems like it would be a real pain everytime I moved the tailstock. There is a tailstock on ebay for $179.00 which seems a bit much but I do have my stimulus check coming.
Anyone have a extra tailstock or know where I might find one?
Thanks for the help.
Ralph
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Bill in OKC too