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I have posted a photo of the packaging I have for 2234 (Cotton Belt
gondola). I believe this car was repackaged by its previous owner
as the box looks very much like the boxes my WDT switchers came in.
All of the Roco manufactured cars I have that are in boxes do not
have thwe rounded edge of the lid this box has.

Sometime down the road I will come up with the right box for this
car if this is indeed the wrong one. here is no tape residue or
label on the box anywhere.

Edward Bridges
Granger, TX

Yup, Edward, it's been re-boxed. The Roco cars in 5" boxes were never in the
"snap" type boxes (well some were but they were still basically the sharp
edged Roco boxes and the "snaps" were at diagonal corners, not having two on one
side and one on the other), although some of the Roco built locos were.

In addition: I believe that the American made cars (in 5" boxes) were all in
Rivarossi style snap boxes.

The slightly longer cars like the bulkhead flats and container cars (the
center flow hoppers should have been in this style box because they barely fit in
the 5" box and I have seen couplers broken because of this) came in boxes
kinda like the Rivarossi passenger car style boxes except the lid corners are more
rounded and the lid overhangs the box instead of its edges ending up flush
with the box sides. Of course it says "ATLAS MADE IN AUSTRIA" up in the corner.
All cars made by Roco regardless of size or box style have this in the top
left corner.

The giant 86' or 94' cars came in their own style box (of course) which
measure about 8" X 1 7/8" These had the Rivarossi style snaps on them, two on one
side (top of car) and one on the other (bottom of car). Again, it has "ATLAS
MADE IN AUSTRIA" up in the corner.

The kits, of course, came in cardboard boxes :>)

Doug

Having looked closer at your photo of your gondola packaging, I would say
that that box was originally from a 0-6-0 saddletank loco (#2186). It has the
"ATLAS MADE IN AUSTRIA" up in the corner and it has two snaps at the top and one
at the bottom. My other Roco built locos all have one snap at the top and two
at the bottom and the lids are slightly different.

Although, I guess there could have been some variation as to where the snaps
were located.

Doug

Edward wrote, in part:

I have quite a few of the Rivarossi style boxes here, but no Roco
style boxes.

Yup, the Rivarossi style boxes seem easier to come by than the Rocos.

I went back and looked at my cars and the longer Roco built cars do
have a rounded edge on the lids.

After I wrote my little article about boxes last night, I went and dug
through my older cars (chuckle, as if any of them are new) and I found that my
original Warren jumbo tanker came in a Rivarossi passenger style box (the lid edges
are flush with the box sides and the edges are sharper). I bought this
directly from a hobby shop (in 1968) but I thought at first that maybe the owner of
the shop had put it in this box (possibly the original box was damaged in
shipment). However, the paper insert says "MADE IN AUSTRIA" at both ends and the
lid, of course, just says "ATLAS" The other boxes for these cars with the
rounded edged lids and overhanging the box say "ATLAS MADE IN AUSTRIA" on the lid
and don't say anything on the paper insert as to country of origin. So, I
deduce that this box is, in fact, correct for this car.

The 85' and 94' cars have a long sharp edged lid on their boxes.

They're not quite as sharp as the Roco 5" boxes though, right?

Doug

Well, I will be looking for a correct Roco style box for the car as
well as the insert and cradle. The car itself is in excellent shape.

I have quite a few of the Rivarossi style boxes here, but no Roco
style boxes.

I went back and looked at my cars and the longer Roco built cars do
have a rounded edge on the lids.

The 85' and 94' cars have a long sharp edged lid on their boxes.

Two more auto racks and I will have all four of them. I already
have all the other 85 and 94 foot cars, all MIB.

Its nice to see some life in the list again.

Edward Bridges
Granger, TX

The 85' and 94' cars have a long sharp edged lid on their boxes.

They're not quite as sharp as the Roco 5" boxes though, right?

They are sharp, but not as sharp as the smaller boxes. I can gather
up the different boxes and shoot pictures of them since I do have
the digital camera handy today.

Edward Bridges
Granger, TX