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One thing that may expand conversation is to expand into N scale history (pre 1980?) vs focusing on Atlas 1st Generation..
~Ian?
Has anyone produced a list ofthe protypes if any for all of the A1G cars?
???? Ira
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I will share all of my AHM data and photos. The cars were made by Roco at the same time they were making car for Atlas.
Michael Bishop
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 12:57:55 PM PDT, learmoia <learmoia@...> wrote:
One thing that may expand conversation is to expand into N scale history (pre 1980?) vs focusing on Atlas 1st Generation..
~Ian?
Has anyone produced a list ofthe protypes if any for all of the A1G cars?
???? Ira
|
Ahh.. On that note, I have come to realize there are reused schemes between the Atlas 40' Boxcar and the AHM Combo door Boxcar..?
Also found that the first Model Power Cupola Caboose was the Roco A1G cupola caboose with some duplicated schemes (PRR.. Atlas Brown, Model Power Red)
While the AHM Cupola caboose also had 2 body styles (neither one the 6 window Roco)? but had paint schemes duplicated across both body styles. (At least New Haven)
I will share all of my AHM data and photos. The cars were made by Roco at the same time they were making car for Atlas.
Michael Bishop
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 12:57:55 PM PDT, learmoia < learmoia@...> wrote:
One thing that may expand conversation is to expand into N scale history (pre 1980?) vs focusing on Atlas 1st Generation..
~Ian? Has anyone produced a list ofthe protypes if any for all of the A1G cars?
???? Ira
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They used the same scheme on many of the other car also. Atlas 2 bay hoppers/AHM 4 bay hoppers and Atlas covered hoppers/AHM covered hoppers. In those year years Atlas cars were easy to find at the local hobby shops, AHM was another story. Usually had to mail order the AHM cars from the east coast (being on the west coast it took forever). There was a large hobby shop in NYC, they ran 4 page ads in MR and MRC that seemed to have AHM and Bachmann n gauge items. Sometimes the J.J. Newberry's store would have a bin full of cars in toy section before Christmas. At a dollar a car, a guy fill up that new yard in no time.
Michael?
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 01:44:06 PM PDT, learmoia <learmoia@...> wrote:
Ahh.. On that note, I have come to realize there are reused schemes between the Atlas 40' Boxcar and the AHM Combo door Boxcar..?
Also found that the first Model Power Cupola Caboose was the Roco A1G cupola caboose with some duplicated schemes (PRR.. Atlas Brown, Model Power Red)
While the AHM Cupola caboose also had 2 body styles (neither one the 6 window Roco)? but had paint schemes duplicated across both body styles. (At least New Haven)
I will share all of my AHM data and photos. The cars were made by Roco at the same time they were making car for Atlas.
Michael Bishop
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 12:57:55 PM PDT, learmoia < learmoia@...> wrote:
One thing that may expand conversation is to expand into N scale history (pre 1980?) vs focusing on Atlas 1st Generation..
~Ian? Has anyone produced a list ofthe protypes if any for all of the A1G cars?
???? Ira
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I grew up in NY and remember that big hobby store.? It was on 5th Avenue and 32nd St.? Can't remember thername at the moment.? Tehy were based out of Newark NJ.? When I remember the name I will post it.
??? Ira
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On 08/18/2020 12:24 AM MIKE via groups.io <goldrod_1@...> wrote:
They used the same scheme on many of the other car also. Atlas 2 bay hoppers/AHM 4 bay hoppers and Atlas covered hoppers/AHM covered hoppers. In those year years Atlas cars were easy to find at the local hobby shops, AHM was another story. Usually had to mail order the AHM cars from the east coast (being on the west coast it took forever). There was a large hobby shop in NYC, they ran 4 page ads in MR and MRC that seemed to have AHM and Bachmann n gauge items. Sometimes the J.J. Newberry's store would have a bin full of cars in toy section before Christmas. At a dollar a car, a guy fill up that new yard in no time.
Michael?
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 01:44:06 PM PDT, learmoia <learmoia@...> wrote:
Ahh.. On that note, I have come to realize there are reused schemes between the Atlas 40' Boxcar and the AHM Combo door Boxcar..?
Also found that the first Model Power Cupola Caboose was the Roco A1G cupola caboose with some duplicated schemes (PRR.. Atlas Brown, Model Power Red)
While the AHM Cupola caboose also had 2 body styles (neither one the 6 window Roco)? but had paint schemes duplicated across both body styles. (At least New Haven)
I will share all of my AHM data and photos. The cars were made by Roco at the same time they were making car for Atlas.
Michael Bishop
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 12:57:55 PM PDT, learmoia <
learmoia@...> wrote:
One thing that may expand conversation is to expand into N scale history (pre 1980?) vs focusing on Atlas 1st Generation..
~Ian?
Has anyone produced a list ofthe protypes if any for all of the A1G cars?
???? Ira
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FAO Swartz? (Or something like that) Sent from a mobile device, may contain typos
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On Aug 18, 2020, at 8:44 AM, igoldberg1 <igoldberg1@...> wrote:
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I grew up in NY and remember that big hobby store.? It was on 5th Avenue and 32nd St.? Can't remember thername at the moment.? Tehy were based out of Newark NJ.? When I remember the name I will post it.
??? Ira
On 08/18/2020 12:24 AM MIKE via groups.io <goldrod_1@...> wrote:
They used the same scheme on many of the other car also. Atlas 2 bay hoppers/AHM 4 bay hoppers and Atlas covered hoppers/AHM covered hoppers. In those year years Atlas cars were easy to find at the local hobby shops, AHM was another story. Usually had to mail order the AHM cars from the east coast (being on the west coast it took forever). There was a large hobby shop in NYC, they ran 4 page ads in MR and MRC that seemed to have AHM and Bachmann n gauge items. Sometimes the J.J. Newberry's store would have a bin full of cars in toy section before Christmas. At a dollar a car, a guy fill up that new yard in no time.
Michael?
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 01:44:06 PM PDT, learmoia <learmoia@...> wrote:
Ahh.. On that note, I have come to realize there are reused schemes between the Atlas 40' Boxcar and the AHM Combo door Boxcar..?
Also found that the first Model Power Cupola Caboose was the Roco A1G cupola caboose with some duplicated schemes (PRR.. Atlas Brown, Model Power Red)
While the AHM Cupola caboose also had 2 body styles (neither one the 6 window Roco)? but had paint schemes duplicated across both body styles. (At least New Haven)
I will share all of my AHM data and photos. The cars were made by Roco at the same time they were making car for Atlas.
Michael Bishop
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 12:57:55 PM PDT, learmoia <
learmoia@...> wrote:
One thing that may expand conversation is to expand into N scale history (pre 1980?) vs focusing on Atlas 1st Generation..
~Ian?
Has anyone produced a list ofthe protypes if any for all of the A1G cars?
???? Ira
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Don't you mean America's Hobby Center? AHC? They were the ones who had multiple-page ads in MR and RMC.
Doug
In a message dated 8/18/2020 7:44:38 AM Central Standard Time, igoldberg1@... writes:
I grew up in NY and remember that big hobby store.? It was on 5th Avenue and 32nd St.? Can't remember thername at the moment.? Tehy were based out of Newark NJ.? When I remember the name I will post it.
??? Ira
On 08/18/2020 12:24 AM MIKE via groups.io <goldrod_1@...> wrote:
They used the same scheme on many of the other car also. Atlas 2 bay hoppers/AHM 4 bay hoppers and Atlas covered hoppers/AHM covered hoppers. In those year years Atlas cars were easy to find at the local hobby shops, AHM was another story. Usually had to mail order the AHM cars from the east coast (being on the west coast it took forever). There was a large hobby shop in NYC, they ran 4 page ads in MR and MRC that seemed to have AHM and Bachmann n gauge items. Sometimes the J.J. Newberry's store would have a bin full of cars in toy section before Christmas. At a dollar a car, a guy fill up that new yard in no time.
Michael
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 01:44:06 PM PDT, learmoia <learmoia@...> wrote:
Ahh.. On that note, I have come to realize there are reused schemes between the Atlas 40' Boxcar and the AHM Combo door Boxcar..?
Also found that the first Model Power Cupola Caboose was the Roco A1G cupola caboose with some duplicated schemes (PRR.. Atlas Brown, Model Power Red)
While the AHM Cupola caboose also had 2 body styles (neither one the 6 window Roco)? but had paint schemes duplicated across both body styles. (At least New Haven)
I will share all of my AHM data and photos. The cars were made by Roco at the same time they were making car for Atlas.
Michael Bishop
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 12:57:55 PM PDT, learmoia < learmoia@...> wrote:
One thing that may expand conversation is to expand into N scale history (pre 1980?) vs focusing on Atlas 1st Generation..
~Ian
Has anyone produced a list ofthe protypes if any for all of the A1G cars?
???? Ira
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AHC was down on East 23rd Street.? They are also long out of business.
???? Ira
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On 08/18/2020 12:07 PM Douglas Gosha via groups.io <dgosha@...> wrote:
Don't you mean America's Hobby Center? AHC? They were the ones who had multiple-page ads in MR and RMC.
Doug
In a message dated 8/18/2020 7:44:38 AM Central Standard Time, igoldberg1@... writes:
I grew up in NY and remember that big hobby store.? It was on 5th Avenue and 32nd St.? Can't remember thername at the moment.? Tehy were based out of Newark NJ.? When I remember the name I will post it.
??? Ira
On 08/18/2020 12:24 AM MIKE via groups.io <goldrod_1@...> wrote:
They used the same scheme on many of the other car also. Atlas 2 bay hoppers/AHM 4 bay hoppers and Atlas covered hoppers/AHM covered hoppers. In those year years Atlas cars were easy to find at the local hobby shops, AHM was another story. Usually had to mail order the AHM cars from the east coast (being on the west coast it took forever). There was a large hobby shop in NYC, they ran 4 page ads in MR and MRC that seemed to have AHM and Bachmann n gauge items. Sometimes the J.J. Newberry's store would have a bin full of cars in toy section before Christmas. At a dollar a car, a guy fill up that new yard in no time.
Michael
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 01:44:06 PM PDT, learmoia <learmoia@...> wrote:
Ahh.. On that note, I have come to realize there are reused schemes between the Atlas 40' Boxcar and the AHM Combo door Boxcar..?
Also found that the first Model Power Cupola Caboose was the Roco A1G cupola caboose with some duplicated schemes (PRR.. Atlas Brown, Model Power Red)
While the AHM Cupola caboose also had 2 body styles (neither one the 6 window Roco)? but had paint schemes duplicated across both body styles. (At least New Haven)
I will share all of my AHM data and photos. The cars were made by Roco at the same time they were making car for Atlas.
Michael Bishop
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 12:57:55 PM PDT, learmoia <
learmoia@...> wrote:
One thing that may expand conversation is to expand into N scale history (pre 1980?) vs focusing on Atlas 1st Generation..
~Ian
Has anyone produced a list ofthe protypes if any for all of the A1G cars?
???? Ira
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I guess I could have looked up the AHC address. I still have boxes from when I ordered stuff from them in the sixties.
Doug
In a message dated 8/18/2020 11:12:14 AM Central Standard Time, igoldberg1@... writes:
AHC was down on East 23rd Street.? They are also long out of business.
???? Ira
???
On 08/18/2020 12:07 PM Douglas Gosha via groups.io <dgosha@...> wrote:
Don't you mean America's Hobby Center? AHC? They were the ones who had multiple-page ads in MR and RMC.
Doug
In a message dated 8/18/2020 7:44:38 AM Central Standard Time, igoldberg1@... writes:
I grew up in NY and remember that big hobby store.? It was on 5th Avenue and 32nd St.? Can't remember thername at the moment.? Tehy were based out of Newark NJ.? When I remember the name I will post it.
??? Ira
On 08/18/2020 12:24 AM MIKE via groups.io <goldrod_1@...> wrote:
They used the same scheme on many of the other car also. Atlas 2 bay hoppers/AHM 4 bay hoppers and Atlas covered hoppers/AHM covered hoppers. In those year years Atlas cars were easy to find at the local hobby shops, AHM was another story. Usually had to mail order the AHM cars from the east coast (being on the west coast it took forever). There was a large hobby shop in NYC, they ran 4 page ads in MR and MRC that seemed to have AHM and Bachmann n gauge items. Sometimes the J.J. Newberry's store would have a bin full of cars in toy section before Christmas. At a dollar a car, a guy fill up that new yard in no time.
Michael
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 01:44:06 PM PDT, learmoia <learmoia@...> wrote:
Ahh.. On that note, I have come to realize there are reused schemes between the Atlas 40' Boxcar and the AHM Combo door Boxcar..?
Also found that the first Model Power Cupola Caboose was the Roco A1G cupola caboose with some duplicated schemes (PRR.. Atlas Brown, Model Power Red)
While the AHM Cupola caboose also had 2 body styles (neither one the 6 window Roco)? but had paint schemes duplicated across both body styles. (At least New Haven)
I will share all of my AHM data and photos. The cars were made by Roco at the same time they were making car for Atlas.
Michael Bishop
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 12:57:55 PM PDT, learmoia < learmoia@...> wrote:
One thing that may expand conversation is to expand into N scale history (pre 1980?) vs focusing on Atlas 1st Generation..
~Ian
Has anyone produced a list ofthe protypes if any for all of the A1G cars?
???? Ira
?
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I believe the place in NYC you are referring to was Madison Hardware. I have vague recollections of being there once and remember the shelves extended so high that the clerks needed ladders to reach a lot of them.
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 12:12:05 -0400 (EDT), "igoldberg1" <igoldberg1@...> wrote:
AHC was down on East 23rd Street.? They are also long out of business.
?
???? Ira
????
On 08/18/2020 12:07 PM Douglas Gosha via groups.io <dgosha@...> wrote:
?
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Don't you mean America's Hobby Center? AHC? They were the ones who had multiple-page ads in MR and RMC.
?
Doug
?
In a message dated 8/18/2020 7:44:38 AM Central Standard Time, igoldberg1@... writes:
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I grew up in NY and remember that big hobby store.? It was on 5th Avenue and 32nd St.? Can't remember thername at the moment.? Tehy were based out of Newark NJ.? When I remember the name I will post it.
??? Ira
On 08/18/2020 12:24 AM MIKE via groups.io <goldrod_1@...> wrote:
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They used the same scheme on many of the other car also. Atlas 2 bay hoppers/AHM 4 bay hoppers and Atlas covered hoppers/AHM covered hoppers. In those year years Atlas cars were easy to find at the local hobby shops, AHM was another story. Usually had to mail order the AHM cars from the east coast (being on the west coast it took forever). There was a large hobby shop in NYC, they ran 4 page ads in MR and MRC that seemed to have AHM and Bachmann n gauge items. Sometimes the J.J. Newberry's store would have a bin full of cars in toy section before Christmas. At a dollar a car, a guy fill up that new yard in no time.
?
Michael
?
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 01:44:06 PM PDT, learmoia <learmoia@...> wrote:
?
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Ahh.. On that note, I have come to realize there are reused schemes between the Atlas 40' Boxcar and the AHM Combo door Boxcar..?
?
Also found that the first Model Power Cupola Caboose was the Roco A1G cupola caboose with some duplicated schemes (PRR.. Atlas Brown, Model Power Red)
?
While the AHM Cupola caboose also had 2 body styles (neither one the 6 window Roco)? but had paint schemes duplicated across both body styles. (At least New Haven)
?
?
I will share all of my AHM data and photos. The cars were made by Roco at the same time they were making car for Atlas.
?
Michael Bishop
?
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 12:57:55 PM PDT, learmoia < learmoia@...> wrote: ?
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One thing that may expand conversation is to expand into N scale history (pre 1980?) vs focusing on Atlas 1st Generation..
?
~Ian
?
Has anyone produced a list ofthe protypes if any for all of the A1G cars?
???? Ira
?
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I apologize if a totally blank note preceded this one... Groups.io 1, George 0.
With respect to Expanded Subjects, I think straying too far from A1G specifically would call for the establishment of a new group.? I think it's also fair to say that with a few exceptions, the "groups" concept has waned in popularity so I'm not sure that anything is going to cause a huge increase in traffic.? I know that thoughts about Facebook are mixed (and please, let's leave it there...) but there is a group called "N Scale Hi-Rail" which has as its topic the early days.? I'm a member and contributor over there as well.? I've been posting tidbits from the Model Railroader DVD in that group.? For example, the first use of the term "N Scale" finally appears in June 1964, well after the first full-page ad for Arnold Rapido trains appears.? And said ad doesn't call out the scale as "N" either!? (Or Triple O, for that matter.)
That having been said, if there is material that relates in some way to A1G, such as the previously mentioned re-use of Roco's tooling for other brands, then post away.? Behind the scenes, I have been accumulating "Life After A1G" examples from Roco under its own brand and Walthers using Roco tooling that started with A1G.? One of these days I'll get the photography done!? And of course there is the short-lived but non-trivial output of E-R Models, most of which I already own, some of which I am still hunting for although quite casually.
Cheers,
George (your list-owner)
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At first I was assuming AHC was related to IHC.. but now that I found an AHC ad, it looks related to AHM.. (Like BLI/Factory Direct Trains)? (or AHC handled the RC business.. Horizon/Athearn..).. Either way.. Front door Hobby Shop, Side Door Importer, Back Door Distributor..
~Ian
AHC was down on East 23rd Street.? They are also long out of business.
???? Ira
????
Don't you mean America's Hobby Center? AHC? They were the ones who had multiple-page ads in MR and RMC.
Doug
In a message dated 8/18/2020 7:44:38 AM Central Standard Time, igoldberg1@... writes:
I grew up in NY and remember that big hobby store.? It was on 5th Avenue and 32nd St.? Can't remember thername at the moment.? Tehy were based out of Newark NJ.? When I remember the name I will post it.
??? Ira
They used the same scheme on many of the other car also. Atlas 2 bay hoppers/AHM 4 bay hoppers and Atlas covered hoppers/AHM covered hoppers. In those year years Atlas cars were easy to find at the local hobby shops, AHM was another story. Usually had to mail order the AHM cars from the east coast (being on the west coast it took forever). There was a large hobby shop in NYC, they ran 4 page ads in MR and MRC that seemed to have AHM and Bachmann n gauge items. Sometimes the J.J. Newberry's store would have a bin full of cars in toy section before Christmas. At a dollar a car, a guy fill up that new yard in no time.
Michael
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 01:44:06 PM PDT, learmoia < learmoia@...> wrote:
Ahh.. On that note, I have come to realize there are reused schemes between the Atlas 40' Boxcar and the AHM Combo door Boxcar..?
Also found that the first Model Power Cupola Caboose was the Roco A1G cupola caboose with some duplicated schemes (PRR.. Atlas Brown, Model Power Red)
While the AHM Cupola caboose also had 2 body styles (neither one the 6 window Roco)? but had paint schemes duplicated across both body styles. (At least New Haven)
I will share all of my AHM data and photos. The cars were made by Roco at the same time they were making car for Atlas.
Michael Bishop
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 12:57:55 PM PDT, learmoia <
learmoia@...> wrote:
One thing that may expand conversation is to expand into N scale history (pre 1980?) vs focusing on Atlas 1st Generation..
~Ian
On Sun, Aug 16, 2020, 11:45 igoldberg1 <
igoldberg1@...> wrote:
Has anyone produced a list ofthe protypes if any for all of the A1G cars?
???? Ira
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Boy, RoCo must have been flying high in those days, manufacturing all those cars for Atals and several other US importers, not to mention the HO stuff.
Doug
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It could have been Madison Hardware, but it has been a long time sinse I was in the store.
????? Ira
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On 08/18/2020 12:52 PM Michael D. Brown <mdbrown@...> wrote:
I believe the place in NYC you are referring to was Madison Hardware. I have vague recollections of being there once and remember the shelves extended so high that the clerks needed ladders to reach a lot of them.
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 12:12:05 -0400 (EDT), "igoldberg1" <igoldberg1@...> wrote:
AHC was down on East 23rd Street.? They are also long out of business.
???? Ira
????
On 08/18/2020 12:07 PM Douglas Gosha via groups.io <dgosha@...> wrote:
Don't you mean America's Hobby Center? AHC? They were the ones who had multiple-page ads in MR and RMC.
Doug
In a message dated 8/18/2020 7:44:38 AM Central Standard Time, igoldberg1@... writes:
I grew up in NY and remember that big hobby store.? It was on 5th Avenue and 32nd St.? Can't remember thername at the moment.? Tehy were based out of Newark NJ.? When I remember the name I will post it.
??? Ira
On 08/18/2020 12:24 AM MIKE via groups.io <goldrod_1@...> wrote:
They used the same scheme on many of the other car also. Atlas 2 bay hoppers/AHM 4 bay hoppers and Atlas covered hoppers/AHM covered hoppers. In those year years Atlas cars were easy to find at the local hobby shops, AHM was another story. Usually had to mail order the AHM cars from the east coast (being on the west coast it took forever). There was a large hobby shop in NYC, they ran 4 page ads in MR and MRC that seemed to have AHM and Bachmann n gauge items. Sometimes the J.J. Newberry's store would have a bin full of cars in toy section before Christmas. At a dollar a car, a guy fill up that new yard in no time.
Michael
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 01:44:06 PM PDT, learmoia <learmoia@...> wrote:
Ahh.. On that note, I have come to realize there are reused schemes between the Atlas 40' Boxcar and the AHM Combo door Boxcar..?
Also found that the first Model Power Cupola Caboose was the Roco A1G cupola caboose with some duplicated schemes (PRR.. Atlas Brown, Model Power Red)
While the AHM Cupola caboose also had 2 body styles (neither one the 6 window Roco)? but had paint schemes duplicated across both body styles. (At least New Haven)
?
I will share all of my AHM data and photos. The cars were made by Roco at the same time they were making car for Atlas.
Michael Bishop
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 12:57:55 PM PDT, learmoia <
learmoia@...> wrote:
One thing that may expand conversation is to expand into N scale history (pre 1980?) vs focusing on Atlas 1st Generation..
~Ian
?
Has anyone produced a list ofthe protypes if any for all of the A1G cars?
???? Ira
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Atals? I MUST improve my proofreading! That was a pretty egregious error, especially considering the group title!
\:^)
Doug
In a message dated 8/18/2020 12:17:52 PM Central Standard Time, dgosha@... writes:
Boy, RoCo must have been flying high in those days, manufacturing all those cars for Atals and several other US importers, not to mention the HO stuff.
Doug
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The thing that makes those NYC shops so impressive, is that they are packed floor to ceiling due to lack of real-estate.. when you walk in.. its not 'THAT' big..?
The shop in Scale Model Supply Minnesota.. IS big AND packed with stuff.. (with alot of vintage stuff)..? ?but I have noticed there is a New and Used area.. but Used stuff in good condition seems to end up in the new section.. mixed in with NOS stuff.
Anyways... Caboose Stop Hobbies in Cedar Falls is also fairly large and packed with stuff..? with a good vintage selection for sale.
If its still open.. there is a shop in Spring Valley. IL that has some vintage stuff.
At first I was assuming AHC was related to IHC.. but now that I found an AHC ad, it looks related to AHM.. (Like BLI/Factory Direct Trains)? (or AHC handled the RC business.. Horizon/Athearn..).. Either way.. Front door Hobby Shop, Side Door Importer, Back Door Distributor..
~Ian
AHC was down on East 23rd Street.? They are also long out of business.
???? Ira
????
Don't you mean America's Hobby Center? AHC? They were the ones who had multiple-page ads in MR and RMC.
Doug
In a message dated 8/18/2020 7:44:38 AM Central Standard Time, igoldberg1@... writes:
I grew up in NY and remember that big hobby store.? It was on 5th Avenue and 32nd St.? Can't remember thername at the moment.? Tehy were based out of Newark NJ.? When I remember the name I will post it.
??? Ira
They used the same scheme on many of the other car also. Atlas 2 bay hoppers/AHM 4 bay hoppers and Atlas covered hoppers/AHM covered hoppers. In those year years Atlas cars were easy to find at the local hobby shops, AHM was another story. Usually had to mail order the AHM cars from the east coast (being on the west coast it took forever). There was a large hobby shop in NYC, they ran 4 page ads in MR and MRC that seemed to have AHM and Bachmann n gauge items. Sometimes the J.J. Newberry's store would have a bin full of cars in toy section before Christmas. At a dollar a car, a guy fill up that new yard in no time.
Michael
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 01:44:06 PM PDT, learmoia < learmoia@...> wrote:
Ahh.. On that note, I have come to realize there are reused schemes between the Atlas 40' Boxcar and the AHM Combo door Boxcar..?
Also found that the first Model Power Cupola Caboose was the Roco A1G cupola caboose with some duplicated schemes (PRR.. Atlas Brown, Model Power Red)
While the AHM Cupola caboose also had 2 body styles (neither one the 6 window Roco)? but had paint schemes duplicated across both body styles. (At least New Haven)
I will share all of my AHM data and photos. The cars were made by Roco at the same time they were making car for Atlas.
Michael Bishop
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 12:57:55 PM PDT, learmoia <
learmoia@...> wrote:
One thing that may expand conversation is to expand into N scale history (pre 1980?) vs focusing on Atlas 1st Generation..
~Ian
On Sun, Aug 16, 2020, 11:45 igoldberg1 <
igoldberg1@...> wrote:
Has anyone produced a list ofthe protypes if any for all of the A1G cars?
???? Ira
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The last time I was in Scale Model supplies was back when it was in the old location near Crystal. I did buy an Atlas A1G 0-4-0 with slope back tender made by Rivarossi there.
AHC and AHM were not related at all. IHC was the successor to AHM.
Doug
In a message dated 8/18/2020 4:40:53 PM Central Standard Time, learmoia@... writes:
The thing that makes those NYC shops so impressive, is that they are packed floor to ceiling due to lack of real-estate.. when you walk in.. its not 'THAT' big..?
The shop in Scale Model Supply Minnesota.. IS big AND packed with stuff.. (with alot of vintage stuff)..? ?but I have noticed there is a New and Used area.. but Used stuff in good condition seems to end up in the new section.. mixed in with NOS stuff.
Anyways... Caboose Stop Hobbies in Cedar Falls is also fairly large and packed with stuff..? with a good vintage selection for sale.
If its still open.. there is a shop in Spring Valley. IL that has some vintage stuff.
At first I was assuming AHC was related to IHC.. but now that I found an AHC ad, it looks related to AHM.. (Like BLI/Factory Direct Trains)? (or AHC handled the RC business.. Horizon/Athearn..).. Either way.. Front door Hobby Shop, Side Door Importer, Back Door Distributor..
~Ian
AHC was down on East 23rd Street.? They are also long out of business.
???? Ira
???
Don't you mean America's Hobby Center? AHC? They were the ones who had multiple-page ads in MR and RMC.
Doug
In a message dated 8/18/2020 7:44:38 AM Central Standard Time, igoldberg1@... writes:
I grew up in NY and remember that big hobby store.? It was on 5th Avenue and 32nd St.? Can't remember thername at the moment.? Tehy were based out of Newark NJ.? When I remember the name I will post it.
??? Ira
They used the same scheme on many of the other car also. Atlas 2 bay hoppers/AHM 4 bay hoppers and Atlas covered hoppers/AHM covered hoppers. In those year years Atlas cars were easy to find at the local hobby shops, AHM was another story. Usually had to mail order the AHM cars from the east coast (being on the west coast it took forever). There was a large hobby shop in NYC, they ran 4 page ads in MR and MRC that seemed to have AHM and Bachmann n gauge items. Sometimes the J.J. Newberry's store would have a bin full of cars in toy section before Christmas. At a dollar a car, a guy fill up that new yard in no time.
Michael
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 01:44:06 PM PDT, learmoia < learmoia@...> wrote:
Ahh.. On that note, I have come to realize there are reused schemes between the Atlas 40' Boxcar and the AHM Combo door Boxcar..?
Also found that the first Model Power Cupola Caboose was the Roco A1G cupola caboose with some duplicated schemes (PRR.. Atlas Brown, Model Power Red)
While the AHM Cupola caboose also had 2 body styles (neither one the 6 window Roco)? but had paint schemes duplicated across both body styles. (At least New Haven)
I will share all of my AHM data and photos. The cars were made by Roco at the same time they were making car for Atlas.
Michael Bishop
On Monday, August 17, 2020, 12:57:55 PM PDT, learmoia < learmoia@...> wrote:
One thing that may expand conversation is to expand into N scale history (pre 1980?) vs focusing on Atlas 1st Generation..
~Ian
Has anyone produced a list ofthe protypes if any for all of the A1G cars?
???? Ira
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