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All, Who originally produced this car? My cars under frame has the embossed manufacturers name scratched off.
Tom
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Hi Tom,
Model Power sold that exact car with that road number (HAMX 31200), but I don’t know if they were the first.
HTH,
Martin
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On Jun 19, 2018, at 10:53 AM, NYCAP Email <tom39@...> wrote:
All, Who originally produced this car? My cars under frame has the embossed manufacturers name scratched off.
Tom
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HAMX 31200 has been done by everyone:
Model Power, Bachmann, Life-Like, and others.
Tom (Whose wife has over 1400 N scale been cars)
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Martin Landry <914four@...> wrote: Hi Tom,
Model Power sold that exact car with that road number (HAMX 31200), but I don’t know if they were the first.
HTH,
Martin
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All, ? Would anyone happen to have the ?PAPER INSERT with STOCK NUMBER for this car??
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HAMX 31200 has been done by everyone:
Model Power, Bachmann, Life-Like, and others.
Tom (Whose wife has over 1400 N scale been cars)
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I wasn’t aware of that. I can now confirm it’s NOT Model Power as the MP version is a different body style and lacks the blue stripe at the bottom. Perhaps a pic of the underside would help. Cheers, Martin? Sent from a mobile device, may contain typos
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On Jun 19, 2018, at 11:22 AM, T Meserole < tomeserole@...> wrote: HAMX 31200 has been done by everyone:
Model Power, Bachmann, Life-Like, and others.
Tom (Whose wife has over 1400 N scale been cars)
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Above is Model Power 3409
Below is Bachmann (I do not know the product #)
car below is Life-Like S788B
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, NYCAP Email <tom39@...> wrote: All, ? Would anyone happen to have the ?PAPER INSERT with STOCK NUMBER for this car??
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HAMX 31200 has been done by everyone:
Model Power, Bachmann, Life-Like, and others.
Tom (Whose wife has over 1400 N scale been cars)
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It's a RoCo car and it is basically identical to the ones they made for Atlas sold as reefers (Blatz, Natl. Dairy Dispatch, Thermice, KO&G). However, the Atlas version had an extra little placard board underneath the larger one to the left of the doors. The ones made for other importers don't have that, just the larger board as pictured.
Bachmann made a copy of the car, too, but it would have "Bachmann, Hong Kong" on the underside, not scratched off or blanked out.
Typically, cars made for AHM had "ahm" in place of "Atlas" on the underside but nothing was really set in stone in those days.
Doug
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From the looks of the other pictures I would say the car in question just might be a Bachmann. Judging just by the font size and the offset of the printing in certain areas . Keep in mind sellers are know for pieces cars together. So it's possible the bottom frame maybe from one manufacturer and the shell of another.
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 7:53 AM, NYCAP Email <tom39@...> wrote: All,? Who originally produced this car? My cars under frame has the embossed manufacturers name scratched off.
Tom
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I have this car, it is in a model power box with label.
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I have four of the Model Power ones. I will try to find them and look at the insert unless someone else can do it sooner.
Also I have four CB&Q cars with the yellow band and jade green. Yes jade green,
Chuck Seemann? ? Aurora, Colorado
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I am thinking that someone possibly unknowingly scrapped out the manufacturers markings in a attempt to modify, update the car to appear modernized.?
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On Jun 20, 2018, at 02:32, guitarrick_c1812 via Groups.Io < guitarrick_c1812@...> wrote: From the looks of the other pictures I would say the car in question just might be a Bachmann. Judging just by the font size and the offset of the printing in certain areas . Keep in mind sellers are know for pieces cars together. So it's possible the bottom frame maybe from one manufacturer and the shell of another. Rick On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 7:53 AM, NYCAP Email All,? Who originally produced this car? My cars under frame has the embossed manufacturers name scratched off.
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Is the importer/manufacturing location scratched out or blanked out?
Doug
In a message dated 6/21/2018 11:40:23 AM Central Standard Time, tom39@... writes:
I am thinking that someone possibly unknowingly scrapped out the manufacturers markings in a attempt to modify, update the car to appear modernized.?
Tom
From the looks of the other pictures I would say the car in question just might be a Bachmann. Judging just by the font size and the offset of the printing in certain areas . Keep in mind sellers are know for pieces cars together. So it's possible the bottom frame maybe from one manufacturer and the shell of another.
Rick
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 7:53 AM, NYCAP Email
All,? Who originally produced this car? My cars under frame has the embossed manufacturers name scratched off.
Tom
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 09:40 am, NYCAP Email wrote:
I am thinking that someone possibly unknowingly scrapped out the manufacturers markings in a attempt to modify, update the car to appear modernized.?
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No you don't "unknowingly" do that. Many of the cars I've seen in Trix and other boxes tho have had a soldering iron smear the inset label moulded on. Just leaves 'Italy' or 'Yugoslavia' in the next panel. I'm filling these in with tungsten putty to add weight. A bit of a chore, then file smooth and re-blacken/ weather a bit to disguise it. cheers d
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Right. The blanking out is related to the Importer's name. If Roco needed some floors to use on a different importer's cars, they blanked out the original Importer's name so they could use the floors and not discard them. Hence, just leaving the country of origin.
A scratched out name would not be from the factory. They always used a hot instrument, as d indicated, a soldering iron or similar, to do it.
Doug
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 09:40 am, NYCAP Email wrote:
I am thinking that someone possibly unknowingly scrapped out the manufacturers markings in a attempt to modify, update the car to appear modernized.?
No you don't "unknowingly" do that. Many of the cars I've seen in Trix and other boxes tho have had a soldering iron smear the inset label moulded on. Just leaves 'Italy' or 'Yugoslavia' in the next panel. I'm filling these in with tungsten putty to add weight. A bit of a chore, then file smooth and re-blacken/ weather a bit to disguise it. cheers d
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