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I did some additional analysis of Michael's results from his raw data. There's not too much more to add, but I did find a couple other variants that Joel and Michael share: 22425308 G A 25297201 T A

I see that Mike Hartley's results are at the Big Tree site awaiting analysis with several others in the lower right in pink: Joel

Aging our ancestors using Y-DNA data is far from an exact science. I'd be happy to have you poke holes in any of this. An analysis of the 11 Z16357 people who have taken Big-Y results in the following

This sounds reasonable to me. I'd like to hear what folks at the L513 Yahoo Forum would have to say about it. Joel

Great analysis, Jared, but I think the SNP names are confusing me. Did you include an equivalent to FGC33966 for Martin and me? Charles ________________________________ Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017

Charles - FGC33966 is your terminal SNP shared with Martin, but I only analyzed Big-Y testers so I could include the novel variants. So FGC33966 is counted as one of your 6 novel variants. This

First, I see that FTDNA has pushed the updates to the tree for the Hartley branch. Joel and Michael, your terminal SNP is now recorded as A11132. I just got my YFull results processed and they show me

Thanks, Jared. The new age estimates are very helpful. One more question if I may: the L513 Descendant Tree Chart has Bennett and I at BY11382. Is that an equivalent for a SNP included on your Z16357

Hi Jared, This is all very interesting. I wonder if my YFull has not been updated yet. Do you show me as an A11138 match under the SNP Matches Tab? I see A11138 under my Hg and SNPs but not at the SNP

Charles - It appears Mike made a mistake when he updated the chart. This should be FGC33966. None of us have BY11382. I'll let him know. Thanks, Jared <charles_002@...> wrote:

No, I don't show A11138 as being a matching SNP with you. That's what is particularly confusing to me. But I clearly show positive for A11138 in my SNP list in my "Hg and SNPs" list. A11138 is the

Hi Jared, I'm never sure when this YFull analysis is finalized or not. At any rate, on my list of SNPs, A11138 is the first one that is not listed as private. So I assume that means I share it with

It's official - my terminal SNP is now A11138! FTDNA did a BAM analysis to verify this and has added this SNP to the tree. I've updated my charts at http://dna.smithplanet.com/snp I also added a bit

Congrats on the new discovery, Jared! With your extensive knowledge and help I hope there are many more discoveries for each of us in the group. Charles Thomas ________________________________ Sent:

Hey Jared, I was looking for something online?in addtion to dna-explained.com to send to an autosomal DNA match of mine for explanation of the possibilities of the match and I found the following

I hope everyone is doing well. We haven't had any new tests on our branch of the tree lately, but now is the optimal time for us to recruit new Big-Y testers. Big-Y is on sale for only $450 through

Hi Jared, What is the process for giving Michael Hartley a provisional identifying named SNP (or SNPs) of his own? Are we waiting for the best SNP before we name one? Also who does the naming? I think

I searched Michael's novel variants at yBrowse.org and see that William Hartley submitted at least one of them for naming. 14806931-C-G is named A15733 - so I propose that this be the designator for

Thanks, Jared for the fast response! Also thanks for roaming around YBrowse to find Michael Hartley's named SNP. It looks like for now, Michael's A15733 could be called the Quaker Hartley Line SNP. I

Happy to report that Kit 601582, my new project member, ordered Big-Y last Thursday. So there will soon be a Pillsbury SNP below the Hays-Pillsbury node on the R1b-L513 Tree.! He is currently a member