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The Big-Y results for Brent Phillips are in. He is confirmed R-Y29969 with Bennett and Thomas. This is phylogenetically equivalent to BY11573. You'll notice FTDNA has changed the terminal SNP for

Jared, You have piqued my interest concerning your exciting news. Joel

Charles - That is interesting. It does appear that your (supposed) ancestor is probably I-M223. Sylvia and Lenita (our Z16357 people) and I are in the Smith R-M269-16 group. Many or most of the other

Hi Jared, It's of no consequence to my Y-DNA lineage or to your research,?but in another line?I'm supposedy a descendant of?Nicholas Smith d.1719 Surry County, VA, and wife Elizabeth Flood. His

Hi Jared, It seems like with the people that we had, all the branching that was going to happen already happened. The good news is that Michael Hartley has expressed interest in the Big Y. This could

Yes, I now form a new theoretical branch from Z17911 (well, theoretical until I can get a closer cousin to test). My branch will be a sibling to your Hartley branch, which is a sibling to the BY11573

Jared, You are my top BigY match now: Joel

Hi Jared, So I suspect on your Z16357 SNP Tree, you will be branching off on a pink box parallel to me under Z17911. Joel

My Big-Y results (kit #307773) are in. I am firmly (still) at R-Z17911. I had hoped that I would share some private/novel SNPs with Hartley, or maybe a few with Bennett or Thomas, but it appears that

As a quick follow-up, Merrick's BAM file was analyzed by FTDNA and they've confirmed that Merrick is positive for Y29969, so this confirms my suspicion that it is equivalent to BY11573. This also

I'd like to welcome Michael Hartley to the group. He has kit #617805 and has recently done the Y67 DNA test. He likely shows as a match to some of you (he is GD=7 to me at Y67). I've added him to the

Joel noted on the R-L513 list that YFull has updated their tree based on Bennett's results - https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-S5668/ R-Z16351 is our branch (what I call Z16357). They have Joel alone at

Charles - Nothing yet. I'll follow up with them soon. Thanks, Jared

Hi Jared, I haven't heard from anyone whom I emailed and cc'ed to you a week ago. I just wanted to check in to see whether any of them may have replied to you.. Thanks, Charles

Thanks Jared, I guess that the FTDNA algorithms work most of the time - not so well in this case. It seems like they should have some exceptions for SNPs that are in other Haplogroups. Joel

Then scratch what I posted before - though this is the logic used for positioning on the tree. I recall now that I had written earlier about these 2 SNPs. These are both known SNPs, but for totally

Here are the two SNPs that the Big Y shows as being different between me and Merrick: CTS3563 CTS11841 According to the Big Tree website: CTS3563 is 15022900-G-A That shows up as a unique mutation for

This is a fundamental limitation of YFull - they use such a limited set of available data to determine their tree - only results of those who have purchased their analysis. They won't know about other

To add a some additional thoughts on this... - You can see the four SNP test result states in Alex's mutations matrix at the Big Tree. - How do we know Thomas and Bennett are BY11573 if their results

There are really four levels of reporting for each SNP: positive, negative, maybe, and no coverage. The 'maybe' results (this is my terminology, not FTDNA's) are markers where you show the SNP in your