Stagecoach Yorkshire - allocation changes - Period 6
Recorded allocation changes for the 4 weeks ending 16th October 2021 were:
15414 YN54 VKD res to disposal (de-roofed in low bridge strike)
15708 YN60 CKA res. to ED (following repairs / repaint)
15826 YN12 GYR CD to reserve
19035 SN56 AWC ED to reserve
36986 SN63 YPJ RH to reserve
39987 SN63 YPK RH to reserve
Ian
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Re: Stagecoach service revision
I tweeted Stagecoach about the change to the X10. Apparently the changes are temporary while they recruit more drivers.?
The issue I have is it's such a drastic change going from a full service to just 2 journeys a day. I understand the issue of lack of drivers. Although the X10 seems to have the same drivers on the service all the time. Plus when I've used the service people were using it and the regular buses on the service were 27187/8 and 27206 in September and October 2020. At one point the service needed double deckers.?
I do think it's a bizarre decision by Stagecoach to cut this service so drastically.?
The E300s are okay. They are quick of the mark but are slow on the motorway. Everything passes them! They are such a down grade from the coaches that were used.?
Stacey
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Ewan Anderson via groups.io" <ewan_me2000@...> Date: 15/10/2021 21:13 (GMT+00:00) Subject: Re: [yorkshiretraction] Stagecoach service revision
Hi Ian
Yes, totally agree but living close to the route, the loadings seem pretty decent and a total suspension seems surprising. A 2 hourly service would have helped!?
28671 was on it this evening and has seen use on a couple of occasions! Seems a waste now that the X6 is no longer run.
I guess time will tell on whether it gets reintroduced or not!
Ewan On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 11:34, ian@yorkshirebus via groups.io <yorkshirebus@...> wrote: Hi Ewan
I suspect it is down to fuel efficiency - and I share the concerns about the X10, of which I'm a fairly regular user.
I worry about the X10 - the coaches/higher spec deckers offered an alternative to the train in terms of cost and comfort.? The trains are still running a reduced service (2 trains per hour between Barnsley and Leeds not the usual 3, and the 2 Leeds bound ones per hour leave within 8 minutes of each other) and they are getting very busy - I was on the 17.09 from Leeds a couple of times last week and it was absolutely rammed, easilly 20 people standing in the doorways on each carriage.
The E300s are ok but not great - on the flip side there's the 4 Scania/E300s at Rawmarsh that were refurbished for the X6 with decent seating, nice flooring and USBs that are rattling around ad-hoc on Rawmarsh work - they'd be great for the X10 from a passenger point of view if loadings don't demand an E400MMC.
I get there's a driver shortage, and I get that the X10 isn't as core as services such as the town work - but dropping from an hourly service (with peak extras) to 2 return trips only Monday to Friday feels to me like the sort of cut you'd make before withdrawing the service all together.
Ian On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 9:12 AM Ewan Anderson via <ewan_me2000= [email protected]> wrote: I do worry! They've been mainly using 27187/8 and 27206 on them for weeks!
I do wonder if it's because these are good on fuel... I do wonder if the x10 will return to a full pattern?? On Fri, 15 Oct 2021, 09:03 Ewan Anderson via , <ewan_me2000= [email protected]> wrote: Morning all
Attached is from today's Barnsley Chronicle reporting service revision at end of the month in line with the driver shortage.
Interesting that Stagecoach would say get on the train to Leeds now!
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Re: Stagecoach service revision
Hi Ian
Yes, totally agree but living close to the route, the loadings seem pretty decent and a total suspension seems surprising. A 2 hourly service would have helped!?
28671 was on it this evening and has seen use on a couple of occasions! Seems a waste now that the X6 is no longer run.
I guess time will tell on whether it gets reintroduced or not!
On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 11:34, ian@yorkshirebus via groups.io <yorkshirebus@...> wrote: Hi Ewan
I suspect it is down to fuel efficiency - and I share the concerns about the X10, of which I'm a fairly regular user.
I worry about the X10 - the coaches/higher spec deckers offered an alternative to the train in terms of cost and comfort.? The trains are still running a reduced service (2 trains per hour between Barnsley and Leeds not the usual 3, and the 2 Leeds bound ones per hour leave within 8 minutes of each other) and they are getting very busy - I was on the 17.09 from Leeds a couple of times last week and it was absolutely rammed, easilly 20 people standing in the doorways on each carriage.
The E300s are ok but not great - on the flip side there's the 4 Scania/E300s at Rawmarsh that were refurbished for the X6 with decent seating, nice flooring and USBs that are rattling around ad-hoc on Rawmarsh work - they'd be great for the X10 from a passenger point of view if loadings don't demand an E400MMC.
I get there's a driver shortage, and I get that the X10 isn't as core as services such as the town work - but dropping from an hourly service (with peak extras) to 2 return trips only Monday to Friday feels to me like the sort of cut you'd make before withdrawing the service all together.
Ian On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 9:12 AM Ewan Anderson via <ewan_me2000= [email protected]> wrote: I do worry! They've been mainly using 27187/8 and 27206 on them for weeks!
I do wonder if it's because these are good on fuel... I do wonder if the x10 will return to a full pattern?? On Fri, 15 Oct 2021, 09:03 Ewan Anderson via , <ewan_me2000= [email protected]> wrote: Morning all
Attached is from today's Barnsley Chronicle reporting service revision at end of the month in line with the driver shortage.
Interesting that Stagecoach would say get on the train to Leeds now!
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Re: Stagecoach service revision
Hi Ewan
I suspect it is down to fuel efficiency - and I share the concerns about the X10, of which I'm a fairly regular user.
I worry about the X10 - the coaches/higher spec deckers offered an alternative to the train in terms of cost and comfort.? The trains are still running a reduced service (2 trains per hour between Barnsley and Leeds not the usual 3, and the 2 Leeds bound ones per hour leave within 8 minutes of each other) and they are getting very busy - I was on the 17.09 from Leeds a couple of times last week and it was absolutely rammed, easilly 20 people standing in the doorways on each carriage.
The E300s are ok but not great - on the flip side there's the 4 Scania/E300s at Rawmarsh that were refurbished for the X6 with decent seating, nice flooring and USBs that are rattling around ad-hoc on Rawmarsh work - they'd be great for the X10 from a passenger point of view if loadings don't demand an E400MMC.
I get there's a driver shortage, and I get that the X10 isn't as core as services such as the town work - but dropping from an hourly service (with peak extras) to 2 return trips only Monday to Friday feels to me like the sort of cut you'd make before withdrawing the service all together.
Ian
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 9:12 AM Ewan Anderson via <ewan_me2000= [email protected]> wrote: I do worry! They've been mainly using 27187/8 and 27206 on them for weeks!
I do wonder if it's because these are good on fuel... I do wonder if the x10 will return to a full pattern?? On Fri, 15 Oct 2021, 09:03 Ewan Anderson via , <ewan_me2000= [email protected]> wrote: Morning all
Attached is from today's Barnsley Chronicle reporting service revision at end of the month in line with the driver shortage.
Interesting that Stagecoach would say get on the train to Leeds now!
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Re: Stagecoach service revision
I do worry! They've been mainly using 27187/8 and 27206 on them for weeks!
I do wonder if it's because these are good on fuel...
On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 9:09, traction1@... <traction1@...> wrote: I do wonder if the x10 will return to a full pattern?? On Fri, 15 Oct 2021, 09:03 Ewan Anderson via , <ewan_me2000= [email protected]> wrote: Morning all
Attached is from today's Barnsley Chronicle reporting service revision at end of the month in line with the driver shortage.
Interesting that Stagecoach would say get on the train to Leeds now!
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Re: Stagecoach service revision
I do wonder if the x10 will return to a full pattern??
On Fri, 15 Oct 2021, 09:03 Ewan Anderson via , <ewan_me2000= [email protected]> wrote: Morning all
Attached is from today's Barnsley Chronicle reporting service revision at end of the month in line with the driver shortage.
Interesting that Stagecoach would say get on the train to Leeds now!
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Stagecoach service revision
Morning all
Attached is from today's Barnsley Chronicle reporting service revision at end of the month in line with the driver shortage.
Interesting that Stagecoach would say get on the train to Leeds now!
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Hi Ewan
Yes, was done a few weeks ago but hasn't seen use (until now) since.
Ian
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On Thursday, October 14, 2021, Ewan Anderson via <ewan_me2000= [email protected]> wrote: > Hi all > Just seen this decker in Barnsley this morning, looking like a fresh repaint? Was brought up to bus station from depot by a fitter. > It also had the letter 'a' missing from Stagecoach on the offside! > Here's to St gecoach! > Ewan > > _._,_._,_ > ________________________________ > Groups.io Links: > > You receive all messages sent to this group. > > View/Reply Online (#163) | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic > Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [ yorkshirebus@...] > > _._,_._,_
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Hi all
Just seen this decker in Barnsley this morning, looking like a fresh repaint? Was brought up to bus station from depot by a fitter.
It also had the letter 'a' missing from Stagecoach on the offside!
Here's to St gecoach!
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Stagecoach Yorkshire 09/10
Rawmarsh's E200 37105 (YX14 RZJ) is now in the new Stagecoach livery.
Ian
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Stagecoach Yorkshire 15414
The last remaining Scania Omnidekka in the fleet - 15414 (YN54 VKD) is no more.? It was put under the low bridge at Royston yesterday afternoon whilst working service 59a (one can only presume the driver got lost).? Fortunately no serious injuries, but given it's age and impending retirement from the fleet it will undoubtedly now be scrapped.
Ian
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And now that Facebook has been fixed, the following picture confirms it
On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 22:58, Ewan Anderson via groups.io <ewan_me2000@...> wrote: ?Evening all
It appears the last omnidekka has come to grief at the notorious Royston bridge earlier today.
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?Evening all
It appears the last omnidekka has come to grief at the notorious Royston bridge earlier today.
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Stagecoach Yorkshire - Allocation Changes - Period 5
Recorded allocation changes for the 4 weeks ending 18th September 2021 were as follows:
19513??? MX09 KSJ???????????? BY?????????? to??????????? reserve
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22423??? YN07 KPP??????????? res.??????? to??????????? disposal
22426??? YN07 KPU??????????? res.??????? to??????????? disposal
22449??? YN07 KSX???????????? res.??????? to??????????? disposal
22535??? YN57 MXB?????????? res.??????? to??????????? disposal
22540??? YN57 MXG????????? res.??????? to??????????? disposal
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35110??? YN06 WCL?????????? res.??????? to??????????? disposal
35115??? YN06 WCT?????????? res.??????? to??????????? disposal
35116??? YN06 WCU????????? res.??????? to??????????? disposal
35227??? YN56 OMG???????? res.??????? to??????????? disposal
35229??? YN56 OMJ?????????? res.??????? to??????????? disposal
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47320??? YN06 UGS?????????? res.??????? to??????????? disposal
47322??? YN06 UGU????????? res.??????? to??????????? disposal (fire damaged)
47325??? XRC 487??????????????? CD????????? to??????????? disposal
(to be re-registered to YN06 UGY)
47724??? YN10 AGU?????????? BY?????????? to??????????? reserve
47725 ? YN10 AGV?????????? BY?????????? to??????????? reserve
47726 ? YN10 AGX?????????? BY?????????? to??????????? reserve
47727 ? YN10 AGY??????????? BY?????????? to??????????? reserve
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In addition, the following have all passed to Hardwick,
Carlton for scrap ¨C though not all have been physically removed as yet:
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22425/34/36/38/39/41/46/47 (YN07 KPT/RG/RK/RU/RV/RZ/SO/SU),
34581/2/3 (YN04 YYD/YXR/YXS), 34720/2 (YN05 XNZ/OB), 35107/8/12 (YN06 WCG/J/O)
and 47319 (YN06 UGR).
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National Express in talks to buy rival Stagecoach
Certainly one to keep an eye on...
Ian
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All
Ex YTC Solo 509 YN03ZXJ is for sale on eBay.
Ewan
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Stagecoach Yorkshire 17/09
Holbrook depot's E200 36726 (YN62 BNE) is now in the new Stagecoach livery.
From the end of September South Pennine Community Transport are to take over operation of interworked services 58 (Wharncliffe Side - Hillsborough) and M92 (Hillsborough - Harley) currently worked by Ecclesfield depot (PVR of 1) to further assist with overcoming the deiver shortage.
Ian
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Stagecoach Yorkshire/Globe
Owing to the continued industry-wide staffing shortages caused by the pandemic, Stagecoach Yorkshire are sub-contracting operation of the following SYPTE tendered services to Globe Holidays from Saturday until further notice:
7 (Barnsley - Hoyland) 23/23a (Millhouse Green/Barnsley - Stocksbridge) 24 (Barnsley - Ingbirchworth) 401 & 491 (Penistone area Schools Services)
Combined these need 3 vehicles to work them (usually Solos) - no vehicles are included in the agreement so Globe will need to provide appropriate vehicles.
Ian
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Stagecoach Yorkshire 03/09
Streetlite 39117 (SN18 XXE) is the latest of this type to be repainted into the new Stagecoach livery.
Ian
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Stagecoach Yorkshire 17/08
Owing to a shortage of Solos at Ecclesfield, Solo 47727 (YN10 AGY) is on loan from Barnsley to Ecclesfield depot, with Enviro200 36412 (YN11 FFC) moving in the opposite direction.
Recent repaints in to the new livery are Chesterfield MAN/E300 22549 (YN57 MXS) and Holbrook E400 12165 (YN62 BFP).
Ian
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