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What is a "Quack Surgeon" in 1851.

 

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Hi All; I had a chuckle when I read today that Thomas Whitehead: b ca 1783 in either Saddleworth (resided here) or Anston, Yorkshire, was listed as a Quack Surgeon.? If I have the correct Thomas in 1841 he was a Butcher.? Being a butcher? I believe is plausible to becoming a surgeon at least in that time-frame.? However, never saw the term Quack used with it.? Nothing comes up in search for "quack surgeon" except references to what I believe is a video game: "Quack Surgeon is a Charisma-based perk in Fallout 76"

All thoughts, suggestions welcomed.?

Fran in Canada

Re: HAGUE

 

Thank you Lin, how of earth did you find them in the 1871 census. I have them in other census.

Again thanks.
Maureen

On 2 Jul 2024, at 10:11?PM, Lin Duke via groups.io <dml5481@...> wrote:

Here they are in 1851 - transcribed as HAGEN

HO107; Piece: 2315; Folio: 544; Page: 3



David HAGUE buried 30 Apr 1862

Christiana in 1871 RG10/3846 folio 44 page 331871 (Transcribed as Ameliana HAYGUE)



Christiana buried 1890

Lin

On 02/07/2024 08:08, Maureen Farrer via groups.io wrote:
Hi Listers,

I am trying to track down David HAGUE b.1788 in Guiseley in either the 1851 census or the 1871 census.

I know there are a lot of them around, but his wife was Elizabeth and the was a papermaker. Two of their children were
Christiana b. 1807 and John b. 1819 in Guiseley both unmarried.

Thanks,
Maureen in Oz.
Locked Yorkshire Surnames List - June update

 

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New surnames added this month:

COATES

DOCKERTY

HAMMOND

PEARSON

POUNDER

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Lin Duke

Yorkshire Surnames List Administrator

Re: HAGUE

 

John HAGUE buried 1856



Lin

On 02/07/2024 13:54, Lin Duke via groups.io wrote:
Elizabeth HAGUE buried 1862




Lin

On 02/07/2024 13:11, Lin Duke via groups.io wrote:
Here they are in 1851 - transcribed as HAGEN

HO107; Piece: 2315; Folio: 544; Page: 3



David HAGUE buried 30 Apr 1862

Christiana in 1871? RG10/3846 folio 44 page 331871 (Transcribed as Ameliana HAYGUE)



Christiana buried 1890

Lin

On 02/07/2024 08:08, Maureen Farrer via groups.io wrote:
Hi Listers,

I am trying to track down David HAGUE b.1788 in Guiseley in either the 1851 census or the 1871 census.

I know there are a lot of them around, but his wife was Elizabeth and the was a papermaker. Two of their children were
Christiana b. 1807 and John b. 1819 in Guiseley both unmarried.

Thanks,
Maureen in Oz.
Re: HAGUE

 

Elizabeth HAGUE buried 1862




Lin

On 02/07/2024 13:11, Lin Duke via groups.io wrote:
Here they are in 1851 - transcribed as HAGEN

HO107; Piece: 2315; Folio: 544; Page: 3



David HAGUE buried 30 Apr 1862

Christiana in 1871? RG10/3846 folio 44 page 331871 (Transcribed as Ameliana HAYGUE)



Christiana buried 1890

Lin

On 02/07/2024 08:08, Maureen Farrer via groups.io wrote:
Hi Listers,

I am trying to track down David HAGUE b.1788 in Guiseley in either the 1851 census or the 1871 census.

I know there are a lot of them around, but his wife was Elizabeth and the was a papermaker. Two of their children were
Christiana b. 1807 and John b. 1819 in Guiseley both unmarried.

Thanks,
Maureen in Oz.
Re: HAGUE

 

Here they are in 1851 - transcribed as HAGEN

HO107; Piece: 2315; Folio: 544; Page: 3



David HAGUE buried 30 Apr 1862

Christiana in 1871? RG10/3846 folio 44 page 331871 (Transcribed as Ameliana HAYGUE)



Christiana buried 1890

Lin

On 02/07/2024 08:08, Maureen Farrer via groups.io wrote:
Hi Listers,

I am trying to track down David HAGUE b.1788 in Guiseley in either the 1851 census or the 1871 census.

I know there are a lot of them around, but his wife was Elizabeth and the was a papermaker. Two of their children were
Christiana b. 1807 and John b. 1819 in Guiseley both unmarried.

Thanks,
Maureen in Oz.
HAGUE

 

Hi Listers,

I am trying to track down David HAGUE b.1788 in Guiseley in either the 1851 census or the 1871 census.

I know there are a lot of them around, but his wife was Elizabeth and the was a papermaker. Two of their children were
Christiana b. 1807 and John b. 1819 in Guiseley both unmarried.

Thanks,
Maureen in Oz.
Re: Illegible words in censuys

 

Is it House Nurse?

On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 at 04:32, barry woolner via <barrywoolner=[email protected]> wrote:
I have a thirteen year female ancestor on the 1861 census. I am unable to work out what the words are in the rank/profession box.?
Any ideas?

Re: Illegible words in censuys

 

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Looks like House Nurse.? It possibly meant she was at home looking after younger siblings and/or neighbours children whilst the mothers went out to work.

Lesley
N Wales

On 25/06/2024 01:57, barry woolner via groups.io wrote:

I have a thirteen year female ancestor on the 1861 census. I am unable to work out what the words are in the rank/profession box.?
Any ideas?
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Re: Illegible words in censuys

 

Regarding the 'crossing out'.? I'm guessing all occupations will be crossed out on the page.? It will have been for collecting statistics at a later date.

On 25/06/2024 01:57, barry woolner via groups.io wrote:? So not crossed out when the census was taken "House Nurse" is the occupation.

Lesley
N Wales

I have a thirteen year female ancestor on the 1861 census. I am unable to work out what the words are in the rank/profession box.
Any ideas?
Re: Illegible words in censuys

 

Perhaps the census taker started to write “housemaid” but crossed it out and wrote Nurse. Possibly a nursemaid to babies or children.

Jennifer?

On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 at 5:35?PM, Joanna Broad via <jo_broad_nz=[email protected]> wrote:
House.? crossed out?
Nurse? ??
? ?Is what I see



On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 at 15:32, barry woolner
I have a thirteen year female ancestor on the 1861 census. I am unable to work out what the words are in the rank/profession box.?
Any ideas?

Re: Illegible words in censuys

 

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Thanks Ruth, and to everyone else. You are correct. It didn't occur to me that it would say nurse as she is only 13. Obviously nurse meant something different back then? She is living with her auntie and his family, including young children. I would guess that maybe she looks after the children? I found a dissertation on-line specifically about domestic nurses in the 19th?century, She states, "The nurse most commonly invoked at this period was one who cared for the family's young children?.


Barry

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Sent: 25 June 2024 15:22
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [yorksgen] Illegible words in censuys
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Looks to me like House Nurse.

Ruth

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of barry woolner
Sent: 25 June 2024 01:58
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yorksgen] Illegible words in censuys

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I have a thirteen year female ancestor on the 1861 census. I am unable to work out what the words are in the rank/profession box.?
Any ideas?

Re: Illegible words in censuys

 

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Spot on. Thanks.

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Andy Sefton <andrew.sefton@...>
Sent: 25 June 2024 14:28
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [yorksgen] Illegible words in censuys
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I think it says ‘House Nurse’

There are other examples of children in the 1861 census being given the term nurse and acting as a ‘nanny’ to other children in the family.
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On 25 Jun 2024, at 04:32, barry woolner via groups.io <barrywoolner@...> wrote:

?I have a thirteen year female ancestor on the 1861 census. I am unable to work out what the words are in the rank/profession box.?
Any ideas?
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Re: Illegible words in censuys

 

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Believe it to be House Nurse
Lenny

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Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 8:31 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
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House Nurse ?

Yvonne

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On 25 Jun 2024, at 04:32, barry woolner <barrywoolner@...> wrote:

?I have a thirteen year female ancestor on the 1861 census. I am unable to work out what the words are in the rank/profession box.?
Any ideas?
<1861.jpg>
Re: Illegible words in censuys

 

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House Nurse ?

Yvonne

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On 25 Jun 2024, at 04:32, barry woolner <barrywoolner@...> wrote:

?I have a thirteen year female ancestor on the 1861 census. I am unable to work out what the words are in the rank/profession box.?
Any ideas?
<1861.jpg>
Re: Illegible words in censuys

 

Looks like “House Nurse” to me.

On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 8:32 PM, barry woolner via <barrywoolner=[email protected]> wrote:
I have a thirteen year female ancestor on the 1861 census. I am unable to work out what the words are in the rank/profession box.?
Any ideas?

Re: Illegible words in censuys

 

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Looks like House Nurse but really need to see the whole page to put it into context

Always easier to quote the full reference Piece/Folio/Page then anyone can lok it up themselves

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Regards

John Hanson FSG

Researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names

Researcher, the Halsted Trust -

Research website -

And my own study of FOSKER

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of barry woolner
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 1:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yorksgen] Illegible words in censuys

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I have a thirteen year female ancestor on the 1861 census. I am unable to work out what the words are in the rank/profession box.?
Any ideas?

Re: Illegible words in censuys

 

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I think it says ‘House Nurse’

There are other examples of children in the 1861 census being given the term nurse and acting as a ‘nanny’ to other children in the family.
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On 25 Jun 2024, at 04:32, barry woolner via groups.io <barrywoolner@...> wrote:

?I have a thirteen year female ancestor on the 1861 census. I am unable to work out what the words are in the rank/profession box.?
Any ideas?
<1861.jpg>
Re: Illegible words in censuys

 

House.? crossed out?
Nurse? ??
? ?Is what I see



On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 at 15:32, barry woolner
<barrywoolner@...> wrote:
I have a thirteen year female ancestor on the 1861 census. I am unable to work out what the words are in the rank/profession box.?
Any ideas?

Re: Illegible words in censuys

 

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House Nurse?
Or perhaps just Nurse (with House lined out)?
Ken?

On Jun 24, 2024, at 8:32?PM, barry woolner <barrywoolner@...> wrote:

?I have a thirteen year female ancestor on the 1861 census. I am unable to work out what the words are in the rank/profession box.?
Any ideas? 1861.jpg
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