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William Farrer LIEVESLEY

 

Hi Listers,

I am trying to track down, William Farrer LIEVESLEY b. 1796 in Leeds. His parents were John LIEVESLEY and Sarah FARRER.
Have found a William LIEVESLEY but not with the middle name Farrer. I would think he would have used this in marriage etc.
Cant find anything else on a William LIEVESLEY with Farrer as a middle name.

Thanks,
Maureen in Oz.


Plan of Churchyard - St James, Tong

 

Hi

I have just rejoined the group and hope someone can help me.

I am trying to find a plan of the churchyard at St James Tong, Yorks but not having much luck so far.

Margaret

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Locked Yorkshire Surnames List - May update

 

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New surnames added this month:

BOLEYN, (BOYLING, BOILING, BYLIN, BOYLYNN)

BROADLEY

HEPTON

OUTHET (OUTHWAITE)

If you would like to add your surname(s) to the list, please use the form at:

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Re: Help please ASHTON

 

The Sheffield Indexers website might be worth a try.

https://www.sheffieldindexers.com/


Re: Help please ASHTON

 

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I am absolutely dumb founded at how much I didn't know. I never thought of cremation, I will certainly start looking there. I want to thank you all. All the sites like Ancestry, Find My Past, My Heritage, Family Search are great BUT they can't replace the groups for the Knowledge? you learn from others, thank you all again. (I'll leave the dishes for another day and go hunting) ? ?

Brynda,

Canada (Born in Stocksbridge)

On 2024-06-01 2:58 a.m., YVONNE HALL via groups.io wrote:


Hi.?
Have you considered that they may have been cremated??

I believe there are no central records for cremations but you this site may be useful: Deceased Online?
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Or contact the local crematorium to see if they will search their records. Google search results show there is Grenoside South crematorium or CPC Sheffield.?

Yvonne



On 1 Jun 2024, at 02:07, bmaj <bmaj@...> wrote:

?Help!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been looking for quite sometime for my Grandparents place of burial. I have looked on Ancestry, Find My Past, My Heritage, Family search, to no avail. They were living in Stocksbridge at the time of their death, Ellen ASHTON died 1957, Laurance ASHTON died 1959, some family members are either buried, married, christened at Holy Trinity Thurgoland I just thought that they maybe there but no luck. If anyone comes across these names if you could drop me a line where, I would be truly grateful. (I might even remember you at Christmas)?

thank you for any help, Brynda

P.S there was a daughter that died in 1925 Elizabeth in Grenoside Hospital.







Re: Help please ASHTON

 

Hi Brynda,

From FreeBMD:

Ashton, Ellen; age 82; Wortley reg dist; 2d 779
Ashton, Laurence A; age 85;

If you have all the death certificates there should be at least an address for the informant, which should narrow down the area of your search as far as burials go.? I would suggest that you try and find the grave of the daughter Elizabeth.? Chances are that her parents may be buried with her.? Have you found them on the 1921 Census? Elizabeth could either have been buried near the hospital (they had their own cemetery I believe), or closer to home.

Have a look on GenUKi for cemeteries and churches local to both Grenoside and Stocksbridge.? You could also try contacting the cemetery office at Sheffield City Road Cemetery.? The crematorium there opened in 1905, so that's a possibility.

Hope this helps.

Lesley
Colwyn Bay

On 31/05/2024 22:50, bmaj via groups.io wrote:
Help!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been looking for quite sometime for my Grandparents place of burial. I have looked on Ancestry, Find My Past, My Heritage, Family search, to no avail. They were living in Stocksbridge at the time of their death, Ellen ASHTON died 1957, Laurance ASHTON died 1959, some family members are either buried, married, christened at Holy Trinity Thurgoland I just thought that they maybe there but no luck. If anyone comes across these names if you could drop me a line where, I would be truly grateful. (I might even remember you at Christmas)?

thank you for any help, Brynda

P.S there was a daughter that died in 1925 Elizabeth in Grenoside Hospital.


Re: Help please ASHTON

 

Have you checked Stocksbridge burial records? By 1957 they may have been cremated rather than buried so you might need to check crematory records.
Ruth

On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 at 02:07, bmaj <bmaj@...> wrote:
Help!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been looking for quite sometime for my
Grandparents place of burial. I have looked on Ancestry, Find My Past,
My Heritage, Family search, to no avail. They were living in
Stocksbridge at the time of their death, Ellen ASHTON died 1957,
Laurance ASHTON died 1959, some family members are either buried,
married, christened at Holy Trinity Thurgoland I just thought that they
maybe there but no luck. If anyone comes across these names if you could
drop me a line where, I would be truly grateful. (I might even remember
you at Christmas)?

thank you for any help, Brynda

P.S there was a daughter that died in 1925 Elizabeth in Grenoside Hospital.








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Ruth Willmore

Events and Education Manager at Society of Genealogists


Re: Help please ASHTON

 

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Hi.?
Have you considered that they may have been cremated??

I believe there are no central records for cremations but you this site may be useful: Deceased Online?
?
Or contact the local crematorium to see if they will search their records. Google search results show there is Grenoside South crematorium or CPC Sheffield.?

Yvonne



On 1 Jun 2024, at 02:07, bmaj <bmaj@...> wrote:

?Help!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been looking for quite sometime for my Grandparents place of burial. I have looked on Ancestry, Find My Past, My Heritage, Family search, to no avail. They were living in Stocksbridge at the time of their death, Ellen ASHTON died 1957, Laurance ASHTON died 1959, some family members are either buried, married, christened at Holy Trinity Thurgoland I just thought that they maybe there but no luck. If anyone comes across these names if you could drop me a line where, I would be truly grateful. (I might even remember you at Christmas)?

thank you for any help, Brynda

P.S there was a daughter that died in 1925 Elizabeth in Grenoside Hospital.







Help please ASHTON

 

Help!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been looking for quite sometime for my Grandparents place of burial. I have looked on Ancestry, Find My Past, My Heritage, Family search, to no avail. They were living in Stocksbridge at the time of their death, Ellen ASHTON died 1957, Laurance ASHTON died 1959, some family members are either buried, married, christened at Holy Trinity Thurgoland I just thought that they maybe there but no luck. If anyone comes across these names if you could drop me a line where, I would be truly grateful. (I might even remember you at Christmas)?

thank you for any help, Brynda

P.S there was a daughter that died in 1925 Elizabeth in Grenoside Hospital.


Re: William James SYKES and Hannah ATKINSON

 

John,

Thank you for this information.

Lin


Re: William James SYKES and Hannah ATKINSON

 

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Andy

I don’t think so – from memory the 1871 and later were released as microfilm only.

1851 seems to have suffered less so whether it was less called for or was maybe better quality paper we will never know

Regards

John Hanson FSG

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy Kerridge
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 1:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yorksgen] William James SYKES and Hannah ATKINSON

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John

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Excellent point, assume applies to other censuses??

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Andy

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One of the things that many are unaware of is the amount to “missing pages” in the 1861 census.

We all know about missing piece which is when the whole of a piece is missing and is reported on by most of the major companies if you look below the search screen at the details. You can also find them by looking at the National Archives catalogue.

You need to understand about what happened in the early days before thing were digitised and online.

Certainly, in my early days of family history 40 years ago you would have been sat down in front of a microfilm/fiche view and looked that way.

But prior to that you would have had to go to the National Archives (or its predecessor) and look at the actual books!
You can imagine what happened next – people would say “oh that’s mine” and tear the page out.

Also, with the amount of handling many first and last pages just became detached because of constant handling

When you are next looking at an 1861 image go and look at the first page of the section and don’t be surprised if it doesn’t start at schedule 1

The National Archives does have street indexes of lots of major towns for the 1841-1891 censuses –

Look at any one for the 1861 census and there are many pages where you will see comments like this

Hope this helps to explain why you might not find what you are looking for

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Regards

John Hanson FSG

Researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names

Researcher, the Halsted Trust -

Research website -

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William James SYKES and Hannah ATKINSON

 

John
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Excellent point, assume applies to other censuses??
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Andy
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One of the things that many are unaware of is the amount to “missing pages” in the 1861 census.

We all know about missing piece which is when the whole of a piece is missing and is reported on by most of the major companies if you look below the search screen at the details. You can also find them by looking at the National Archives catalogue.

You need to understand about what happened in the early days before thing were digitised and online.

Certainly, in my early days of family history 40 years ago you would have been sat down in front of a microfilm/fiche view and looked that way.

But prior to that you would have had to go to the National Archives (or its predecessor) and look at the actual books!
You can imagine what happened next – people would say “oh that’s mine” and tear the page out.

Also, with the amount of handling many first and last pages just became detached because of constant handling

When you are next looking at an 1861 image go and look at the first page of the section and don’t be surprised if it doesn’t start at schedule 1

The National Archives does have street indexes of lots of major towns for the 1841-1891 censuses –

Look at any one for the 1861 census and there are many pages where you will see comments like this

Hope this helps to explain why you might not find what you are looking for

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Regards

John Hanson FSG

Researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names

Researcher, the Halsted Trust -

Research website -

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Thank you, Wendy; I think this is even less likely, for this man, than involvement in insurance matters …
Ken iPad

On May 23, 2024, at 8:49?PM, Wendy Bloomfield <genealogicallyours@...> wrote:

? Hi Ken,
Mistranscription of occupation Underviewer -
A junior official in charge of mine in 'viewer's' absence ?
Closest I can find in all the old occupation website listings.
Wendy Bloomfield

On 24/05/2024 5:23 am, Ken Harrison via groups.io wrote:

I have seen a person listed in Baines Directory in 1822 in the Hull area as an “underwriter”, and would appreciate some local advice about what this occupation would have been, there and at that time.? I doubt that he was involved in insurance or investments, but can not rule these out.

Ken Harrison



Re: Underwriter

 

Thanks, Steve; so it just meant what it would today …
Ken iPad

On May 23, 2024, at 8:49?PM, Steve Wrack <hullman56@...> wrote:

?An underwriter was, and still is, a person who assess and determines the
risk involved in their area of expertise, which then allows for example,
an insurer to decide whether to issue an insurance policy against a
person/vessel/building etc. or a financial institution to offer funds
for a loan etc.






Re: William James SYKES and Hannah ATKINSON

 

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Lin

Sorry to be late to the pass but family life!
One of the things that many are unaware of is the amount to “missing pages” in the 1861 census.

We all know about missing piece which is when the whole of a piece is missing and is reported on by most of the major companies if you look below the search screen at the details. You can also find them by looking at the National Archives catalogue.

You need to understand about what happened in the early days before thing were digitised and online.

Certainly, in my early days of family history 40 years ago you would have been sat down in front of a microfilm/fiche view and looked that way.

But prior to that you would have had to go to the National Archives (or its predecessor) and look at the actual books!
You can imagine what happened next – people would say “oh that’s mine” and tear the page out.

Also, with the amount of handling many first and last pages just became detached because of constant handling

When you are next looking at an 1861 image go and look at the first page of the section and don’t be surprised if it doesn’t start at schedule 1

The National Archives does have street indexes of lots of major towns for the 1841-1891 censuses –

Look at any one for the 1861 census and there are many pages where you will see comments like this

Hope this helps to explain why you might not find what you are looking for

?

Regards

John Hanson FSG

Researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names

Researcher, the Halsted Trust -

Research website -

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Lin Duke
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 5:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yorksgen] William James SYKES and Hannah ATKINSON

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I'm asking for help in finding a couple (and possibly their children) on 1861 census.?

James SYKES (21) married Hannah ATKINSON (21) 27 Apr 1857, Castleford, Yorkshire. (James' father given as John a card maker, Hannah's father as George, a blacksmith. Witnesses Simon BURNLY, William SYKES).?

First known children:

George Thomas son of William James and Hannah SYKES baptised Upper Hopton, Yorkshire 12 Oct 1864, born 21 Dec 1862 (no birth record found).

Hiram SYKES baptised son of?William James and Hannah SYKES 12 Oct 1864, Upper Hopton, Yorkshire born 17 Apr 1864. Hiram's birth certificate confirms this date of birth, gives father as William, a coal miner and Hannah formerly SIMPSON

On 1871 census Barnsley Hannah is now wife of Joseph STEAD, 36

Joseph is aged 36, coal miner, birth place Not Known, Hannah 28, born Monk Bretton, Yorkshire. (Hannah gives Monk Bretton on 1881, 1891, 1901, 1911).? (I can't find their marriage.) ? With them are George T STEAD, Hiram STEAD, Ernest STEAD.?

Ernest was baptised 20 April 1869, Barnsley son of Joseph and Hannah STEAD.

I should say at this point that I suspect that Joseph STEAD is actually William James SYKES.

William James? SYKES died 26 Jun 1875, Barnsley aged 42, informant his widow Hannah.

On 25 Dec 1877 Hannah (40) married George ROLLINGS (42),

On 1881 census Barnsley George is with Hannah and his step children George T SYKES, Hyram SYKES, Ernest SYKES, Mary E SYKES, Edna SYKES and their daughter Annie ROLLINGS.

Mary Ellen STEAD B 1872 - father Joseph STEAD and Hannah formerly ATKINSON; Edna STEAD B 1874 - father Joseph STEAD and Hannah formerly ATKINSON

?I cannot find William James on 1871 census or any other censuses.

Hiram SYKES married 1896, father James SYKES;?

Ernest SYKES married 1891, father James SYKES.?

Mary Ellen SYKES married 1895, father James SYKES.?

Edna SYKES married 1893, father Joseph SYKES.

George Thomas SYKES marred 1889 - father Joseph SYKES.

Sorry for long post but trying to give as many clues as I can as I've been looking for weeks.

Any help gratefully received.

Lin


Re: Underwriter

 

An underwriter was, and still is, a person who assess and determines the risk involved in their area of expertise, which then allows for example, an insurer to decide whether to issue an insurance policy against a person/vessel/building etc. or a financial institution to offer funds for a loan etc.


Re: Underwriter

 

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Hi Ken,
Mistranscription of occupation Underviewer -
A junior official in charge of mine in 'viewer's' absence ?
Closest I can find in all the old occupation website listings.
Wendy Bloomfield

On 24/05/2024 5:23 am, Ken Harrison via groups.io wrote:

I have seen a person listed in Baines Directory in 1822 in the Hull area as an “underwriter”, and would appreciate some local advice about what this occupation would have been, there and at that time.? I doubt that he was involved in insurance or investments, but can not rule these out.

Ken Harrison



Underwriter

 

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I have seen a person listed in Baines Directory in 1822 in the Hull area as an “underwriter”, and would appreciate some local advice about what this occupation would have been, there and at that time.? I doubt that he was involved in insurance or investments, but can not rule these out.

Ken Harrison


Re: William James SYKES and Hannah ATKINSON

 

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Hi Lin,
After a second look I agree about Glass Houghton. Much closer to Castleford as well.?
Regards, Peter

On 21 May 2024, at 17:03, Lin Duke <dml5481@...> wrote:

?Hi Peter

Thanks for looking.

I've rechecked the marriage record on Ancestry and am sure James' residence says Glass Houghton, [nr Castleford].

Lin


Re: William James SYKES and Hannah ATKINSON

 

Wendy,

Thanks for looking.

Lin