Hi.?

Have you considered that they may have been cremated??

I believe there are no central records for cremations but you this site may be useful: Deceased Online?

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Or contact the local crematorium to see if they will search their records. Google search results show there is Grenoside South crematorium or CPC Sheffield.?

Yvonne

On 1 Jun 2024, at 02:07, bmaj <bmaj@...> wrote:

?Help!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been looking for quite sometime for my Grandparents place of burial. I have looked on Ancestry, Find My Past, My Heritage, Family search, to no avail. They were living in Stocksbridge at the time of their death, Ellen ASHTON died 1957, Laurance ASHTON died 1959, some family members are either buried, married, christened at Holy Trinity Thurgoland I just thought that they maybe there but no luck. If anyone comes across these names if you could drop me a line where, I would be truly grateful. (I might even remember you at Christmas)?

thank you for any help, Brynda

P.S there was a daughter that died in 1925 Elizabeth in Grenoside Hospital.

Help!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been looking for quite sometime for my Grandparents place of burial. I have looked on Ancestry, Find My Past, My Heritage, Family search, to no avail. They were living in Stocksbridge at the time of their death, Ellen ASHTON died 1957, Laurance ASHTON died 1959, some family members are either buried, married, christened at Holy Trinity Thurgoland I just thought that they maybe there but no luck. If anyone comes across these names if you could drop me a line where, I would be truly grateful. (I might even remember you at Christmas)?

thank you for any help, Brynda

P.S there was a daughter that died in 1925 Elizabeth in Grenoside Hospital.

On 1 Jun 2024, at 02:07, bmaj <bmaj@...> wrote:

?Help!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been looking for quite sometime for my Grandparents place of burial. I have looked on Ancestry, Find My Past, My Heritage, Family search, to no avail. They were living in Stocksbridge at the time of their death, Ellen ASHTON died 1957, Laurance ASHTON died 1959, some family members are either buried, married, christened at Holy Trinity Thurgoland I just thought that they maybe there but no luck. If anyone comes across these names if you could drop me a line where, I would be truly grateful. (I might even remember you at Christmas)?

thank you for any help, Brynda

P.S there was a daughter that died in 1925 Elizabeth in Grenoside Hospital.

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One of the things that many are unaware of is the amount to “missing pages” in the 1861 census.

We all know about missing piece which is when the whole of a piece is missing and is reported on by most of the major companies if you look below the search screen at the details. You can also find them by looking at the National Archives catalogue.

You need to understand about what happened in the early days before thing were digitised and online.

Certainly, in my early days of family history 40 years ago you would have been sat down in front of a microfilm/fiche view and looked that way.

But prior to that you would have had to go to the National Archives (or its predecessor) and look at the actual books!
You can imagine what happened next – people would say “oh that’s mine” and tear the page out.

Also, with the amount of handling many first and last pages just became detached because of constant handling

When you are next looking at an 1861 image go and look at the first page of the section and don’t be surprised if it doesn’t start at schedule 1

The National Archives does have street indexes of lots of major towns for the 1841-1891 censuses –

Look at any one for the 1861 census and there are many pages where you will see comments like this

Hope this helps to explain why you might not find what you are looking for

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Regards

John Hanson FSG

Researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names

Researcher, the Halsted Trust -

Research website -

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On May 23, 2024, at 8:49?PM, Wendy Bloomfield <genealogicallyours@...> wrote:

? Hi Ken,
Mistranscription of occupation Underviewer - A junior official in charge of mine in 'viewer's' absence ?
Closest I can find in all the old occupation website listings.
Wendy Bloomfield

On 24/05/2024 5:23 am, Ken Harrison via groups.io wrote:

I have seen a person listed in Baines Directory in 1822 in the Hull area as an “underwriter”, and would appreciate some local advice about what this occupation would have been, there and at that time.? I doubt that he was involved in insurance or investments, but can not rule these out.

Ken Harrison

On May 23, 2024, at 8:49?PM, Steve Wrack <hullman56@...> wrote:

?An underwriter was, and still is, a person who assess and determines the
risk involved in their area of expertise, which then allows for example,
an insurer to decide whether to issue an insurance policy against a
person/vessel/building etc. or a financial institution to offer funds
for a loan etc.

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I'm asking for help in finding a couple (and possibly their children) on 1861 census.?

James SYKES (21) married Hannah ATKINSON (21) 27 Apr 1857, Castleford, Yorkshire. (James' father given as John a card maker, Hannah's father as George, a blacksmith. Witnesses Simon BURNLY, William SYKES).?

First known children:

George Thomas son of William James and Hannah SYKES baptised Upper Hopton, Yorkshire 12 Oct 1864, born 21 Dec 1862 (no birth record found).

Hiram SYKES baptised son of?William James and Hannah SYKES 12 Oct 1864, Upper Hopton, Yorkshire born 17 Apr 1864. Hiram's birth certificate confirms this date of birth, gives father as William, a coal miner and Hannah formerly SIMPSON

On 1871 census Barnsley Hannah is now wife of Joseph STEAD, 36

Joseph is aged 36, coal miner, birth place Not Known, Hannah 28, born Monk Bretton, Yorkshire. (Hannah gives Monk Bretton on 1881, 1891, 1901, 1911).? (I can't find their marriage.) ? With them are George T STEAD, Hiram STEAD, Ernest STEAD.?

Ernest was baptised 20 April 1869, Barnsley son of Joseph and Hannah STEAD.

I should say at this point that I suspect that Joseph STEAD is actually William James SYKES.

William James? SYKES died 26 Jun 1875, Barnsley aged 42, informant his widow Hannah.

On 25 Dec 1877 Hannah (40) married George ROLLINGS (42),

On 1881 census Barnsley George is with Hannah and his step children George T SYKES, Hyram SYKES, Ernest SYKES, Mary E SYKES, Edna SYKES and their daughter Annie ROLLINGS.

Mary Ellen STEAD B 1872 - father Joseph STEAD and Hannah formerly ATKINSON; Edna STEAD B 1874 - father Joseph STEAD and Hannah formerly ATKINSON

?I cannot find William James on 1871 census or any other censuses.

Hiram SYKES married 1896, father James SYKES;?

Ernest SYKES married 1891, father James SYKES.?

Mary Ellen SYKES married 1895, father James SYKES.?

Edna SYKES married 1893, father Joseph SYKES.

George Thomas SYKES marred 1889 - father Joseph SYKES.

Sorry for long post but trying to give as many clues as I can as I've been looking for weeks.

Any help gratefully received.

Lin

I have seen a person listed in Baines Directory in 1822 in the Hull area as an “underwriter”, and would appreciate some local advice about what this occupation would have been, there and at that time.? I doubt that he was involved in insurance or investments, but can not rule these out.

Ken Harrison

On 21 May 2024, at 17:03, Lin Duke <dml5481@...> wrote:

?Hi Peter

Thanks for looking.

I've rechecked the marriage record on Ancestry and am sure James' residence says Glass Houghton, [nr Castleford].

Lin