Re: William James SYKES and Hannah ATKINSON
Hi Peter
Thanks for looking.
I've rechecked the marriage record on Ancestry and am sure James' residence says Glass Houghton, [nr Castleford].
Lin
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Re: William James SYKES and Hannah ATKINSON
Eileen,
Thanks for looking.
According to GRO Noble STEAD's mother's maiden name was NOBLE, so not the family I'm looking for.
Lin
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Re: William James SYKES and Hannah ATKINSON
Hi Lin, I’ve had a crack at this with not a lot more luck than you! I checked the marri entry on Ancestry which showed his occupation as a collier and his residence as Great Houghton in Barnsley. There is a census entry on Findmypast in 2861 for a James with
wife Hannah in Kirkburton but he is a stay weaver and Hannah a stay maker so not an obvious match. No children but James’s sister is also there. She is a milliner. James’s age is 26 and Hannah is 24. I see no contradiction with the ages at marriage assuming
that the marriage age really means “over 21”.?
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On 20 May 2024, at 18:00, Lin Duke <dml5481@...> wrote:
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I'm asking for help in finding a couple (and possibly their children)
on 1861 census.?
James SYKES (21) married Hannah ATKINSON (21) 27 Apr 1857, Castleford,
Yorkshire. (James' father given as John a card maker, Hannah's father as George, a blacksmith. Witnesses Simon BURNLY, William SYKES).?
First known children:
George Thomas son of
William James and Hannah SYKES baptised Upper Hopton, Yorkshire 12 Oct 1864, born 21 Dec 1862 (no birth record found).
Hiram SYKES baptised
son of?William
James and Hannah SYKES
12 Oct 1864, Upper Hopton, Yorkshire
born 17 Apr 1864. Hiram's birth certificate confirms this date
of birth, gives father as William, a coal miner and Hannah formerly SIMPSON
On 1871 census Barnsley Hannah is now wife of Joseph STEAD, 36
Joseph is aged 36, coal miner, birth place Not Known, Hannah 28, born
Monk Bretton, Yorkshire. (Hannah gives Monk Bretton on 1881, 1891, 1901, 1911).?
(I can't find their marriage.)
? With them are George T STEAD, Hiram STEAD, Ernest STEAD.?
Ernest was baptised 20 April 1869, Barnsley son of Joseph and Hannah
STEAD.
I should say at this point that I suspect that Joseph STEAD is actually
William James SYKES.
William James? SYKES died 26 Jun 1875, Barnsley aged 42, informant
his widow Hannah.
On 25 Dec 1877 Hannah (40) married George ROLLINGS (42),
On 1881 census Barnsley George is with Hannah and his step children
George T SYKES, Hyram SYKES, Ernest SYKES, Mary E SYKES, Edna SYKES and their daughter Annie ROLLINGS.
Mary Ellen STEAD B 1872 - father Joseph STEAD and Hannah formerly ATKINSON;
Edna STEAD B 1874 - father Joseph STEAD and Hannah formerly ATKINSON
?I cannot find William James on 1871 census or any other censuses.
Hiram SYKES married 1896, father James SYKES;?
Ernest SYKES married 1891, father James SYKES.?
Mary Ellen SYKES married 1895, father James SYKES.?
Edna SYKES married 1893, father
Joseph SYKES.
George Thomas SYKES marred 1889 - father
Joseph SYKES.
Sorry for long post but trying to give as many clues as I can as I've
been looking for weeks.
Any help gratefully received.
Lin
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Re: William James SYKES and Hannah ATKINSON
Hi Lin,
I have had an in depth look for this family in 1861 census using a
variety of search patterns and can not find them anywhere.
Find my past tells us that there are some missing parts of the
1861 census for Yorkshire, so if they were living in those areas
they will not appear on the census.? This is from the list:
(First column is Piece Number)
| 3278 |
West
Yorkshire |
Halifax |
Halifax
(4) |
Halifax |
I |
| 3388 |
West
Yorkshire |
Leeds |
West
Leeds (3) |
Leeds
NW Ward |
M |
| 3652 |
North
Yorkshire |
Guisborough |
Marske
(2) |
Marske:
Redcar |
I |
Although it doesn't look like they would be in those
area's in 1861, anything is possible.? I also searched for the
witnesses William Burnly (no trace) and William Sykes.? There are
six families containing a William Sykes living in Castleford in
1861 birth dates range from 1816 to 1853. I have checked all those
families and there are no William's with wife Hannah (Anne, Ann
etc) living with them.?
Sorry I could not help more.? These families that change their
names are so frustrating!
Cheers
Wendy
On 21/05/2024 12:00 am, Lin Duke via
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I'm asking for help in finding a couple (and
possibly their children) on 1861 census.?
James SYKES (21) married Hannah ATKINSON (21) 27
Apr 1857, Castleford, Yorkshire. (James' father given as John
a card maker, Hannah's father as George, a blacksmith.
Witnesses Simon BURNLY, William SYKES).?
First known children:
George Thomas son of William James
and Hannah SYKES baptised Upper Hopton, Yorkshire 12 Oct 1864,
born 21 Dec 1862 (no birth record found).
Hiram SYKES baptised son of?William James and Hannah SYKES 12 Oct 1864, Upper Hopton, Yorkshire born 17 Apr 1864. Hiram's birth certificate
confirms this date of birth, gives father as William, a coal
miner and Hannah formerly SIMPSON
On 1871 census Barnsley Hannah is now wife of
Joseph STEAD, 36
Joseph is aged 36, coal miner, birth place Not
Known, Hannah 28, born Monk Bretton, Yorkshire. (Hannah gives
Monk Bretton on 1881, 1891, 1901, 1911).? (I can't find their marriage.) ? With them are George T STEAD, Hiram STEAD, Ernest
STEAD.?
Ernest was baptised 20 April 1869, Barnsley son of
Joseph and Hannah STEAD.
I should say at this point that I suspect that
Joseph STEAD is actually William James SYKES.
William James? SYKES died 26 Jun 1875, Barnsley
aged 42, informant his widow Hannah.
On 25 Dec 1877 Hannah (40) married George ROLLINGS
(42),
On 1881 census Barnsley George is with Hannah and
his step children George T SYKES, Hyram SYKES, Ernest SYKES,
Mary E SYKES, Edna SYKES and their daughter Annie ROLLINGS.
Mary Ellen STEAD B 1872 - father Joseph STEAD and
Hannah formerly ATKINSON; Edna STEAD B 1874 - father Joseph
STEAD and Hannah formerly ATKINSON
?I cannot find William James on 1871 census or any
other censuses.
Hiram SYKES married 1896, father James SYKES;?
Ernest SYKES married 1891, father James SYKES.?
Mary Ellen SYKES married 1895, father James SYKES.?
Edna SYKES married 1893, father Joseph
SYKES.
George Thomas SYKES marred 1889 - father
Joseph SYKES.
Sorry for long post but trying to give as many
clues as I can as I've been looking for weeks.
Any help gratefully received.
Lin
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Re: William James SYKES and Hannah ATKINSON
Hello Lin, ? For your consideration: ?
? which shows Residence Haigh Moor (West Ardsley Yorkshire( R. G. 9 3429)) William STEAD Head M 23 Coal Miner born East Ardsley, Hannah STEAD Wife 23 born West Ardsley, Noble STEAD Son 11 months born West Ardsley. ? The child Noble STEAD died aged 2 and was buried 21 Aug 1862 Woodkirk Yks. ? Good luck sorting out this puzzle, Eileen ?
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Subject: [yorksgen] William James SYKES and Hannah ATKINSON? I'm asking for help in finding a couple (and possibly their children) on 1861 census.? James SYKES (21) married Hannah ATKINSON (21) 27 Apr 1857, Castleford, Yorkshire. (James' father given as John a card maker, Hannah's father as George, a blacksmith. Witnesses Simon BURNLY, William SYKES).? First known children: George Thomas son of William James and Hannah SYKES baptised Upper Hopton, Yorkshire 12 Oct 1864, born 21 Dec 1862 (no birth record found). Hiram SYKES baptised son of?William James and Hannah SYKES 12 Oct 1864, Upper Hopton, Yorkshire born 17 Apr 1864. Hiram's birth certificate confirms this date of birth, gives father as William, a coal miner and Hannah formerly SIMPSON On 1871 census Barnsley Hannah is now wife of Joseph STEAD, 36 Joseph is aged 36, coal miner, birth place Not Known, Hannah 28, born Monk Bretton, Yorkshire. (Hannah gives Monk Bretton on 1881, 1891, 1901, 1911).? (I can't find their marriage.) ? With them are George T STEAD, Hiram STEAD, Ernest STEAD.? Ernest was baptised 20 April 1869, Barnsley son of Joseph and Hannah STEAD. I should say at this point that I suspect that Joseph STEAD is actually William James SYKES. William James? SYKES died 26 Jun 1875, Barnsley aged 42, informant his widow Hannah. On 25 Dec 1877 Hannah (40) married George ROLLINGS (42), On 1881 census Barnsley George is with Hannah and his step children George T SYKES, Hyram SYKES, Ernest SYKES, Mary E SYKES, Edna SYKES and their daughter Annie ROLLINGS. Mary Ellen STEAD B 1872 - father Joseph STEAD and Hannah formerly ATKINSON; Edna STEAD B 1874 - father Joseph STEAD and Hannah formerly ATKINSON ?I cannot find William James on 1871 census or any other censuses. Hiram SYKES married 1896, father James SYKES;? Ernest SYKES married 1891, father James SYKES.? Mary Ellen SYKES married 1895, father James SYKES.? Edna SYKES married 1893, father Joseph SYKES. George Thomas SYKES marred 1889 - father Joseph SYKES. Sorry for long post but trying to give as many clues as I can as I've been looking for weeks. Any help gratefully received. Lin
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William James SYKES and Hannah ATKINSON
I'm asking for help in finding a couple (and possibly
their children) on 1861 census.?
James SYKES (21) married Hannah ATKINSON (21) 27 Apr
1857, Castleford, Yorkshire. (James' father given as John a card
maker, Hannah's father as George, a blacksmith. Witnesses Simon
BURNLY, William SYKES).?
First known children:
George Thomas son of William James
and Hannah SYKES baptised Upper Hopton, Yorkshire 12 Oct 1864,
born 21 Dec 1862 (no birth record found).
Hiram SYKES baptised son of?William James and Hannah SYKES 12 Oct 1864, Upper Hopton, Yorkshire born 17 Apr 1864. Hiram's birth certificate confirms
this date of birth, gives father as William, a coal miner and
Hannah formerly SIMPSON
On 1871 census Barnsley Hannah is now wife of Joseph
STEAD, 36
Joseph is aged 36, coal miner, birth place Not Known,
Hannah 28, born Monk Bretton, Yorkshire. (Hannah gives Monk
Bretton on 1881, 1891, 1901, 1911).? (I can't find their marriage.) ? With them are George T STEAD, Hiram STEAD, Ernest
STEAD.?
Ernest was baptised 20 April 1869, Barnsley son of
Joseph and Hannah STEAD.
I should say at this point that I suspect that Joseph
STEAD is actually William James SYKES.
William James? SYKES died 26 Jun 1875, Barnsley aged
42, informant his widow Hannah.
On 25 Dec 1877 Hannah (40) married George ROLLINGS
(42),
On 1881 census Barnsley George is with Hannah and his
step children George T SYKES, Hyram SYKES, Ernest SYKES, Mary E
SYKES, Edna SYKES and their daughter Annie ROLLINGS.
Mary Ellen STEAD B 1872 - father Joseph STEAD and
Hannah formerly ATKINSON; Edna STEAD B 1874 - father Joseph
STEAD and Hannah formerly ATKINSON
?I cannot find William James on 1871 census or any
other censuses.
Hiram SYKES married 1896, father James SYKES;?
Ernest SYKES married 1891, father James SYKES.?
Mary Ellen SYKES married 1895, father James SYKES.?
Edna SYKES married 1893, father Joseph SYKES.
George Thomas SYKES marred 1889 - father Joseph
SYKES.
Sorry for long post but trying to give as many clues
as I can as I've been looking for weeks.
Any help gratefully received.
Lin
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Re: Talbot Lane Methodist Church Rotherham -Records
Thank you. I can only see Baptism records from 1988-2014. I shall contact them ? Regards Lorraine ? Sent from for Windows ?
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Re: Talbot Lane Methodist Church Rotherham -Records
Rotherham Archives
On Sun, 19 May 2024 at 17:58, Lorraine and Tim Weaver via <weaverlorraine= [email protected]> wrote:
Hello everyone,
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I understand the above church has been decommissioned (not sure if that’s the correct word). I am looking specifically for baptism records from the early 1960’s. Does anyone know if or where theses records are kept?
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Many thanks
Regards
Lorraine Weaver
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Talbot Lane Methodist Church Rotherham -Records
Hello everyone,
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I understand the above church has been decommissioned (not sure if that’s the correct word). I am looking specifically for baptism records from the early 1960’s. Does anyone know if or where theses records are kept?
?
Many thanks
Regards
Lorraine Weaver
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John WOOD surveyor and creator of Scottish town plans, born Nth Yorkshire?
John Wood was a surveyor and mapmaker who produced detailed town plans for many Scottish English and Welsh town.
He died 2 Jul 1847 while living in Towe Street, Portobello, Edinburgh, he was buried on 5 Jul 1847 in St Cuthbert church.
He is reported to have been born in North Yorkshire about 1780, trained there and when he married, moved to Edinburgh where he apparently lived for the rest of his life. (source: )
Does anyone have information on him: birth, parents, siblings, training, marriage?
Kind regards, Neil
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Westgate Baptist Chapel, Rotherham Joseph BROWN
Hello, I am trying to locate the headstones for the graves of my gr gr gr grandparents Joseph BROWN (born Greasbrough 1792-1875) and Mary BROWN (nee TWIBY, born Bradgate 1796-1858). They were at the front entrance to the Westgate Baptist Chapel in Cranklow Lane Rotherham until about 1968-1970 when the building was sold. I have contacted numerous organisations to no avail. Would anyone know where they were moved to? They are the very prominent headstones to the left of the entrance. (I have a photo of the chapel for anyone who may be able to help.)
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NAIFF
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Ideas wanted to overcome a brick wall please
Hi everyone
Hope you are all well.?
I'm wondering if you have any ideas on what I might do next to see if I can finally demolish a very long standing brick wall.?
I'm looking for the marriage of Robert WELDRAKE and Susannah pre 1708, the baptism of Robert (she died 1737, he died in 1743), the baptism of Thomas WELDRAKE pre 1708 and same for Joseph WELDRAKE who died in 1752 in Littletown (it seems to say batch (batchelor?) in his record which is very unusual.)?
Robert and Susannah have a child (John) baptised in Birstall near Huddersfield in 1708 - they live in Hightown/Long Liversedge. There was a Quaker meeting house there but no record of them being Quakers. I've checked the land registry at Wakefield from 1704 (not yet gone through it prior to that as it's not indexed - does anyone know how that could be searched? Would it be by location?) and Birstall manorial court records 1698-1711 (no settlement certificates.)?
Thomas WELDRAKE - most likely their son - marries in Birstall in 1739 and moves to Hunslet with children born there from 1740. He's a clothier and he and his family are removed from Hunslet to Birstall in 1747 which the poor law authorities then admit was a mistake (court case). The family return as Thomas died in Hunslet in 1750 and is buried in Leeds.? Does that imply he had settlement rights in Hunslet from birth or did he qualify from some other means??
I've researched every instance I can find of W(H)ELDRAKE/DRICK (and 40 plus variations including HILDRICK/HILDRAKE/HILDRITH and HILDREY (mostly north Yorks but a HILDRAKE in Howden became WELDRAKE) across Yorkshire from medieval to present times and elsewhere.?
As most lines either die out or can be traced on and eliminated my best guess is a connection to the WELDRAKES nearby in Monk Fryston in the 1600s but I'm keeping an open mind. A Thomas?WELDRAKE born in Monk Fryston in 1651 has a daughter Margaret buried in 1694. Robert and Susanna had a daughter Margaret. If R&S followed a naming pattern then Thomas could be Robert's father and it's possible?Thomas's grandfather was called Robert. It's the only line (apart from one man in Selby) with a Robert.?
I can't find Monk Fryston Thomas's marriage or the baptism of any children (just the burial record for Margaret) in Monk Fryston or Sherburn in Elmet (WELDRAKES there.) Any ideas on the best nearby parishes to search or other records that might help please??
Thanks in hope!
Jane Researching W(H)ELDRAKE/DRICK?- any variation, anywhere, anytime
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A friend forwarded this to me, knowing my interest in the subject and activity on various military sites but just thought there might be someone here with some connection to the site who could fill in some gaps in their knowledge.
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The RN Communications Branch Museum has had a request from the GCHQ Historian for information on the site and operations, equipment, etc. at Blubberhouses North Yorkshire ?that eventually became HMS Forest Moor. I wonder if you could ask your contacts and/or publish the request in your NL/ on websites in case ?someone has info tucked away and would like to share it. ?I will forward anything passed ?to me to Q, giving the correspondent ?full credit, of course
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I currently have slim info?
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It was an RN Wireless Station in the 1920s and controlled RX at Flowerdown
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it was a Y station in WW2 ?the ATS Special Wireless Ops who worked there were billeted in Harrogate
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The Y station passed ?info to Beaumanor
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It became the main HF receiving site for the RN in the 1960s and closed down in the early 2000s
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martin@...
Fort William
Ancestry DNA, FTDNA (B68554), GEDMatch (A374507), MyHeritage MH-4MN878
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