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Pix, or ???, of the J-3a Hudson that morphed into an A-?[?] Berk


 

Henry, and all,

If there are pix of the prototype, and or the model, I missed them, or the link to them. Would someone kindly send them to me, or direct me to them, please.

--
Thanks & regards,
Walter


Long95209
 

Hi Walter ! There WAS a photo for sale on e-bay of a Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo steam locomotive . It was a 2-8-4 , built by Alco to New York Central practices . Placement of appliances and boiler dimensions were very close to those of a J3 Hudson . I can't locate that photo , but it also resembles the Mowhawks built around the same time . Jeff can you find a photo ? Henry

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Walter Bayer II wrote:

Henry, and all,

If there are pix of the prototype, and or the model, I missed them, or the
link to them. Would someone kindly send them to me, or direct me to them,
please.

--
Thanks & regards,
Walter


 

I found one on the web. Here's the address:
?http://www.thbrailway.ca/steam/graphics/thb201.jpg

Jeff
jppellas@...


-----Original Message-----
From: Long95209
To: yardbirdtrains Sent: Thu, Jan 24, 2013 6:35 pm
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Pix, or ???, of the J-3a Hudson that morphed into an A-?[?] Berk

?
Hi Walter ! There WAS a photo for sale on e-bay of a Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo steam locomotive . It was a 2-8-4 , built by Alco to New York Central practices . Placement of appliances and boiler dimensions were very close to those of a J3 Hudson . I can't locate that photo , but it also resembles the Mowhawks built around the same time . Jeff can you find a photo ? Henry

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Walter Bayer II wrote:
>
> Henry, and all,
>
> If there are pix of the prototype, and or the model, I missed them, or the
> link to them. Would someone kindly send them to me, or direct me to them,
> please.
>
> --
> Thanks & regards,
> Walter
>


 

Thanks, gents. A very curious looking loco from MLW!


On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Jeff Pellas <jppellas@...> wrote:
?

I found one on the web. Here's the address:

?



-----Original Message-----
From: Long95209 <long95209@...>
To: yardbirdtrains <yardbirdtrains@...>
Sent: Thu, Jan 24, 2013 6:35 pm
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Pix, or ???, of the J-3a Hudson that morphed into an A-?[?] Berk

?
Hi Walter ! There WAS a photo for sale on e-bay of a Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo steam locomotive . It was a 2-8-4 , built by Alco to New York Central practices . Placement of appliances and boiler dimensions were very close to those of a J3 Hudson . I can't locate that photo , but it also resembles the Mowhawks built around the same time . Jeff can you find a photo ? Henry

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Walter Bayer II wrote:
>
> Henry, and all,
>
> If there are pix of the prototype, and or the model, I missed them, or the
> link to them. Would someone kindly send them to me, or direct me to them,
> please.
>
> --
> Thanks & regards,
> Walter
Regards,
Walter


Mary Long
 

Thanks for nailing it Walter . Lots to see on this loco , that tender resembles a P-5 NYC Pacific's . Is it missing a journal cover on the lead truck ? Smaller driver diameters ?? Henry


--- On Fri, 1/25/13, Walter Bayer II wrote:

From: Walter Bayer II
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Pix, or ???, of the J-3a Hudson that morphed into an A-?[?] Berk
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Date: Friday, January 25, 2013, 5:16 PM

?

Thanks, gents. A very curious looking loco from MLW!

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Jeff Pellas <jppellas@...> wrote:
?

I found one on the web. Here's the address:

?



-----Original Message-----
From: Long95209 <long95209@...>
To: yardbirdtrains <yardbirdtrains@...>
Sent: Thu, Jan 24, 2013 6:35 pm
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Pix, or ???, of the J-3a Hudson that morphed into an A-?[?] Berk

?
Hi Walter ! There WAS a photo for sale on e-bay of a Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo steam locomotive . It was a 2-8-4 , built by Alco to New York Central practices . Placement of appliances and boiler dimensions were very close to those of a J3 Hudson . I can't locate that photo , but it also resembles the Mowhawks built around the same time . Jeff can you find a photo ? Henry

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Walter Bayer II wrote:
>
> Henry, and all,
>
> If there are pix of the prototype, and or the model, I missed them, or the
> link to them. Would someone kindly send them to me, or direct me to them,
> please.
>
> --
> Thanks & regards,
> Walter
Regards,
Walter


 

Data on the TH&B Berks can be found here:?
?
Being early versions of the Berk, they only had 63" drivers, consistent with the B&A Berks that came just before.
?
DM


-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Long
To: yardbirdtrains
Sent: Fri, Jan 25, 2013 11:03 am
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Pix, or ???, of the J-3a Hudson that morphed into an A-?[?] Berk

?
Thanks for nailing it Walter . Lots to see on this loco , that tender resembles a P-5 NYC Pacific's . Is it missing a journal cover on the lead truck ? Smaller driver diameters ?? Henry

--- On Fri, 1/25/13, Walter Bayer II <bayerw2@...> wrote:

From: Walter Bayer II <bayerw2@...>
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Pix, or ???, of the J-3a Hudson that morphed into an A-?[?] Berk
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Date: Friday, January 25, 2013, 5:16 PM

?
Thanks, gents. A very curious looking loco from MLW!

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Jeff Pellas <jppellas@...> wrote:
?
I found one on the web. Here's the address:
?



-----Original Message-----
From: Long95209 <long95209@...>
To: yardbirdtrains <yardbirdtrains@...>
Sent: Thu, Jan 24, 2013 6:35 pm
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Pix, or ???, of the J-3a Hudson that morphed into an A-?[?] Berk

?
Hi Walter ! There WAS a photo for sale on e-bay of a Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo steam locomotive . It was a 2-8-4 , built by Alco to New York Central practices . Placement of appliances and boiler dimensions were very close to those of a J3 Hudson . I can't locate that photo , but it also resembles the Mowhawks built around the same time . Jeff can you find a photo ? Henry

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Walter Bayer II wrote:
>
> Henry, and all,
>
> If there are pix of the prototype, and or the model, I missed them, or the
> link to them. Would someone kindly send them to me, or direct me to them,
> please.
>
> --
> Thanks & regards,
> Walter
Regards,
Walter


Mary Long
 

Using Walter's link , CP and NYC jointly owned this line [nyc 73%]? . That "splains" a lot about it's appearance , eh ? ALCO Schenectedy 1928 ?? Henry


--- On Fri, 1/25/13, ebtnut@... wrote:

From: ebtnut@...
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Pix, or ???, of the J-3a Hudson that morphed into an A-?[?] Berk
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Date: Friday, January 25, 2013, 6:27 PM

?

Data on the TH&B Berks can be found here:?
?
Being early versions of the Berk, they only had 63" drivers, consistent with the B&A Berks that came just before.
?
DM


-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Long
To: yardbirdtrains
Sent: Fri, Jan 25, 2013 11:03 am
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Pix, or ???, of the J-3a Hudson that morphed into an A-?[?] Berk

?
Thanks for nailing it Walter . Lots to see on this loco , that tender resembles a P-5 NYC Pacific's . Is it missing a journal cover on the lead truck ? Smaller driver diameters ?? Henry

--- On Fri, 1/25/13, Walter Bayer II <bayerw2@...> wrote:

From: Walter Bayer II <bayerw2@...>
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Pix, or ???, of the J-3a Hudson that morphed into an A-?[?] Berk
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Date: Friday, January 25, 2013, 5:16 PM

?
Thanks, gents. A very curious looking loco from MLW!

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Jeff Pellas <jppellas@...> wrote:
?
I found one on the web. Here's the address:
?



-----Original Message-----
From: Long95209 <long95209@...>
To: yardbirdtrains <yardbirdtrains@...>
Sent: Thu, Jan 24, 2013 6:35 pm
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Pix, or ???, of the J-3a Hudson that morphed into an A-?[?] Berk

?
Hi Walter ! There WAS a photo for sale on e-bay of a Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo steam locomotive . It was a 2-8-4 , built by Alco to New York Central practices . Placement of appliances and boiler dimensions were very close to those of a J3 Hudson . I can't locate that photo , but it also resembles the Mowhawks built around the same time . Jeff can you find a photo ? Henry

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Walter Bayer II wrote:
>
> Henry, and all,
>
> If there are pix of the prototype, and or the model, I missed them, or the
> link to them. Would someone kindly send them to me, or direct me to them,
> please.
>
> --
> Thanks & regards,
> Walter
Regards,
Walter


 

Alas, it wasn't me who found the link, it was DM. Thank you, DM, from all of us.
Walter


On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Mary Long <long95209@...> wrote:
?

Using Walter's link , CP and NYC jointly owned this line [nyc 73%]? . That "splains" a lot about it's appearance , eh ? ALCO Schenectedy 1928 ?? Henry

--- On Fri, 1/25/13, ebtnut@... <ebtnut@...> wrote:

From: ebtnut@... <ebtnut@...>

Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Pix, or ???, of the J-3a Hudson that morphed into an A-?[?] Berk
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Date: Friday, January 25, 2013, 6:27 PM


?

Data on the TH&B Berks can be found here:?
?
Being early versions of the Berk, they only had 63" drivers, consistent with the B&A Berks that came just before.
?
DM


-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Long <long95209@...>
To: yardbirdtrains <yardbirdtrains@...>
Sent: Fri, Jan 25, 2013 11:03 am
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Pix, or ???, of the J-3a Hudson that morphed into an A-?[?] Berk

?
Thanks for nailing it Walter . Lots to see on this loco , that tender resembles a P-5 NYC Pacific's . Is it missing a journal cover on the lead truck ? Smaller driver diameters ?? Henry

--- On Fri, 1/25/13, Walter Bayer II <> wrote:

From: Walter Bayer II <>
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Pix, or ???, of the J-3a Hudson that morphed into an A-?[?] Berk
To:
Date: Friday, January 25, 2013, 5:16 PM

?
Thanks, gents. A very curious looking loco from MLW!

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Jeff Pellas <jppellas@...> wrote:
?
I found one on the web. Here's the address:
?



-----Original Message-----
From: Long95209 <long95209@...>
To: yardbirdtrains <yardbirdtrains@...>
Sent: Thu, Jan 24, 2013 6:35 pm
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Pix, or ???, of the J-3a Hudson that morphed into an A-?[?] Berk

?
Hi Walter ! There WAS a photo for sale on e-bay of a Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo steam locomotive . It was a 2-8-4 , built by Alco to New York Central practices . Placement of appliances and boiler dimensions were very close to those of a J3 Hudson . I can't locate that photo , but it also resembles the Mowhawks built around the same time . Jeff can you find a photo ? Henry

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Walter Bayer II wrote:
>
> Henry, and all,
>
> If there are pix of the prototype, and or the model, I missed them, or the
> link to them. Would someone kindly send them to me, or direct me to them,
> please.
>
> --
> Thanks & regards,
> Walter
Regards,
Walter


Long95209
 

Thanks for that builders link , MLW , [1928] 2 locos , ly Berk types built in Canada ? On the THB historical link ? Their passenger loco ? J3a Hudson ! What else ? Henry

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., ebtnut@... wrote:


Data on the TH&B Berks can be found here:

Being early versions of the Berk, they only had 63" drivers, consistent with the B&A Berks that came just before.

DM



-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Long
To: yardbirdtrains
Sent: Fri, Jan 25, 2013 11:03 am
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Pix, or ???, of the J-3a Hudson that morphed into an A-?[?] Berk






Thanks for nailing it Walter . Lots to see on this loco , that tender resembles a P-5 NYC Pacific's . Is it missing a journal cover on the lead truck ? Smaller driver diameters ? Henry

--- On Fri, 1/25/13, Walter Bayer II wrote:


From: Walter Bayer II
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Pix, or ???, of the J-3a Hudson that morphed into an A-?[?] Berk
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Date: Friday, January 25, 2013, 5:16 PM



Thanks, gents. A very curious looking loco from MLW!


On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Jeff Pellas wrote:



I found one on the web. Here's the address:



Jeff
jppellas@...





-----Original Message-----
From: Long95209
To: yardbirdtrains
Sent: Thu, Jan 24, 2013 6:35 pm
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Pix, or ???, of the J-3a Hudson that morphed into an A-?[?] Berk




Hi Walter ! There WAS a photo for sale on e-bay of a Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo steam locomotive . It was a 2-8-4 , built by Alco to New York Central practices . Placement of appliances and boiler dimensions were very close to those of a J3 Hudson . I can't locate that photo , but it also resembles the Mowhawks built around the same time . Jeff can you find a photo ? Henry

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Walter Bayer II wrote:

Henry, and all,

If there are pix of the prototype, and or the model, I missed them, or the
link to them. Would someone kindly send them to me, or direct me to them,
please.

--
Thanks & regards,
Walter






Regards,
Walter