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Re: fc40 tuner

raimo
 

Hello.

Look the file I just uploaded.

73s rami, oh6bi

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "buddken@..." <buddken@...> wrote:

does anyone have a spare copy of the circuit diagram showing what value capaciters are used,as the fc30 rearly needs uprating in its range 16 low to 150 high,regards ken m3zkb,rafars 4680


New file uploaded to YaesuTuner

 

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fc40 tuner

 

does anyone have a spare copy of the circuit diagram showing what value capaciters are used,as the fc30 rearly needs uprating in its range 16 low to 150 high,regards ken m3zkb,rafars 4680


fc30

 

regarding tuners,ive built quite a few now and to increase the range of the impedance to match top band one parrells up more capacators to increase the range of it,So has anyone tried adding more capactors to the fc30 to increase its range,regards,ken,m3zkb,rafars 4680


Re: Yaesu 897D with FC-30 or FC-40 tuner

 

hi ken here,what you could try is to set the tuner set up on A and set up the 2mt twig on B so the rig dosnt think the swr is wayout and so dosnt shut down the power,might be worth trying,regards ken,m3zkb

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "ae7vk" <ae7vk@...> wrote:

The truth is that I'm using an MFJ-929 autotuner with my 897D and having a problem that both Yaesu and MFJ are unwilling to solve.

Can someone here tell me exactly how an FC-30 or 40 works with a radio like the 897D? Here's the problem:

The 897 has two antenna outputs, one for HF and one for 2M/70cm. The HF goes to the tuner and the 2M goes directly to the 2M antenna. There's a cable that runs from the radio to the tuner for communications.

On my radio, once I've set the two menus to enable the tuner, and using the softkeys to enable the tuner, "TUNR" will appear in the radio display showing the tuner is enabled. If I tune the freq outside the legal ham bands the display changes to "tunr" (lower case) which, according to Yaesu tech support, means the tuner is out of range. Fine.

Here's the problem: with my setup when I switch to 2M, the display shows "tunr" since of course my tuner nor the FC30/40 work at 2M. But the tuner is NOT in the path so you'd think there'd be no effect, but I guess the radio doesn't "know" the tuner is not in the 2M transmission path.

Question: does this cause anyone here any problem when using 2M? My 897D reduces power way down like it's protecting itself. Same with the FC-30/40? If turn off the MFJ, or remove the communications cable, or press the "TUNE" softkey to remove "tunr" from the display (AND cycle the power) then it works fine. In other words once the radio sees there's no tuner, it behaves properly.

Anyone have a similar experience with the FC-30/40, or is this some fluke of using an MFJ tuner with the 897D radio? I've posted this on the Yaesu 897 User's Group, but have not received any usable solution.

Thanks,
Mac, AE7VK


Re: Yaesu 897D with FC-30 or FC-40 tuner

 

what might be the problem is what ever band your in the co-ax idealy needs to be in multiples of half waves so the rig sees the proper impedenceof the antenna,so if the fc30 is on the hf socket if is in range of the tuner it should work,if not add lengths of co-ax until it is in range. hope this helps,ken m3zkb

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "ae7vk" <ae7vk@...> wrote:

The truth is that I'm using an MFJ-929 autotuner with my 897D and having a problem that both Yaesu and MFJ are unwilling to solve.

Can someone here tell me exactly how an FC-30 or 40 works with a radio like the 897D? Here's the problem:

The 897 has two antenna outputs, one for HF and one for 2M/70cm. The HF goes to the tuner and the 2M goes directly to the 2M antenna. There's a cable that runs from the radio to the tuner for communications.

On my radio, once I've set the two menus to enable the tuner, and using the softkeys to enable the tuner, "TUNR" will appear in the radio display showing the tuner is enabled. If I tune the freq outside the legal ham bands the display changes to "tunr" (lower case) which, according to Yaesu tech support, means the tuner is out of range. Fine.

Here's the problem: with my setup when I switch to 2M, the display shows "tunr" since of course my tuner nor the FC30/40 work at 2M. But the tuner is NOT in the path so you'd think there'd be no effect, but I guess the radio doesn't "know" the tuner is not in the 2M transmission path.

Question: does this cause anyone here any problem when using 2M? My 897D reduces power way down like it's protecting itself. Same with the FC-30/40? If turn off the MFJ, or remove the communications cable, or press the "TUNE" softkey to remove "tunr" from the display (AND cycle the power) then it works fine. In other words once the radio sees there's no tuner, it behaves properly.

Anyone have a similar experience with the FC-30/40, or is this some fluke of using an MFJ tuner with the 897D radio? I've posted this on the Yaesu 897 User's Group, but have not received any usable solution.

Thanks,
Mac, AE7VK


Re: FC-40 Antenna Post

 

Open wire (aka ladderline) ... cause you can have high swr on that line
NEVER use coax for that!!!

Dg9bfc

Sigi

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Von: YaesuTuner@... [mailto:YaesuTuner@...] Im
Auftrag von stucknbada
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. April 2013 14:21
An: YaesuTuner@...
Betreff: [YaesuTuner] FC-40 Antenna Post



I need to separate the FC-40 from the wire dipole antenna by a distance of
10 feet. What is the best way to connect the FC-40 antenna post to a wire
dipole antenna?
Thanks, Robert




FC-40 Antenna Post

 

I need to separate the FC-40 from the wire dipole antenna by a distance of 10 feet. What is the best way to connect the FC-40 antenna post to a wire dipole antenna?
Thanks, Robert


Antenna tower cement base

 

Help!!??!!??
Our small club has to install a crank-up TV tower of about 30 feet and
we do not know the manufacturer or any model numbers. We need some
advice about how much concrete and rebar to use in the base - how
wide, deep, etc. It will be in sandy soil and secure about 8 feet up
to an anchored shed building.
TIA!
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Yaesu 897D with FC-30 or FC-40 tuner

ae7vk
 

The truth is that I'm using an MFJ-929 autotuner with my 897D and having a problem that both Yaesu and MFJ are unwilling to solve.

Can someone here tell me exactly how an FC-30 or 40 works with a radio like the 897D? Here's the problem:

The 897 has two antenna outputs, one for HF and one for 2M/70cm. The HF goes to the tuner and the 2M goes directly to the 2M antenna. There's a cable that runs from the radio to the tuner for communications.

On my radio, once I've set the two menus to enable the tuner, and using the softkeys to enable the tuner, "TUNR" will appear in the radio display showing the tuner is enabled. If I tune the freq outside the legal ham bands the display changes to "tunr" (lower case) which, according to Yaesu tech support, means the tuner is out of range. Fine.

Here's the problem: with my setup when I switch to 2M, the display shows "tunr" since of course my tuner nor the FC30/40 work at 2M. But the tuner is NOT in the path so you'd think there'd be no effect, but I guess the radio doesn't "know" the tuner is not in the 2M transmission path.

Question: does this cause anyone here any problem when using 2M? My 897D reduces power way down like it's protecting itself. Same with the FC-30/40? If turn off the MFJ, or remove the communications cable, or press the "TUNE" softkey to remove "tunr" from the display (AND cycle the power) then it works fine. In other words once the radio sees there's no tuner, it behaves properly.

Anyone have a similar experience with the FC-30/40, or is this some fluke of using an MFJ tuner with the 897D radio? I've posted this on the Yaesu 897 User's Group, but have not received any usable solution.

Thanks,
Mac, AE7VK


Re: New Member with First Post

 

Try another length (a few feet more or less as you have now)

It will work

I have an fc1000 by yaesu (nearly the same as the fc40) and and some setups
you have to shorten or lengthen the wire that tuner finds a match (well
documented in owners manual)

Dg9bfc

Sigi

Ps you also can add a small coil at the shack end to get away from low
current point ... then also the tuner will find a match

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Auftrag von davidrehm40
Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. Juli 2012 22:17
An: YaesuTuner@...
Betreff: [YaesuTuner] New Member with First Post



Just bought a new Yaesu FT-950 and FC-40 Tuner.
Previously, and still in the shack, is my ICOM IC-706MKIIG and AH-4 Tuner.
That setup worked just fine. I just wanted a new transceiver.

I stayed with a 71 foot single wire but cannot tune on 40 meters with the
FC-40. Reading eham.net, it seems that others have had smiilar problems.
There may be no one length of wire that will tune all bands. The AH-4 did
tune all bands.

Sure will appreciate any ideas and suggestions. Very disappointed with the
tuner at this point.

Thanks,
Dave, W5KKC




New Member with First Post

davidrehm40
 

Just bought a new Yaesu FT-950 and FC-40 Tuner.
Previously, and still in the shack, is my ICOM IC-706MKIIG and AH-4 Tuner. That setup worked just fine. I just wanted a new transceiver.

I stayed with a 71 foot single wire but cannot tune on 40 meters with the FC-40. Reading eham.net, it seems that others have had smiilar problems. There may be no one length of wire that will tune all bands. The AH-4 did tune all bands.

Sure will appreciate any ideas and suggestions. Very disappointed with the tuner at this point.

Thanks,
Dave, W5KKC


Re: External controller for FC-40

Lou
 

Well the Pinout from the FC-40 manual with a schematic shows:

1 - 13.5V (Input)
2 - TX GND (Input)
3 - GND
4 - Data In (Input)
5 - Data Out (Out)
6 - Sense (GND)
7 - Reset (Input)
8 - TX_INH (Out)

The Data in Data out pins go to the Serial I/O pins of the MCU, so the data is serial, it is just a matter of what they contain.

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "siegfried jackstien" <siegfried.jackstien@...> wrote:

I have an fc 1000 .... has control head and tuner box ... maybe the protocol
is the same?!?

The control head of the fc1000 needs just 12v and ptt and gives alc back to
the rig for tuning with low power .... the frequency data is only needed if
you use the memory function (presets) but for tuning it is not needed

(so I also could use it with my icom rig *g*)

What data is sent over the data bus from control head to tuning box??? I do
not know .... but that could not be toooo difficult to find that out

Dg9bfc

Sigi


Re: External controller for FC-40

 

I have an fc 1000 .... has control head and tuner box ... maybe the protocol
is the same?!?

The control head of the fc1000 needs just 12v and ptt and gives alc back to
the rig for tuning with low power .... the frequency data is only needed if
you use the memory function (presets) but for tuning it is not needed

(so I also could use it with my icom rig *g*)

What data is sent over the data bus from control head to tuning box??? I do
not know .... but that could not be toooo difficult to find that out

Dg9bfc

Sigi

-----Urspr¨¹ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: YaesuTuner@... [mailto:YaesuTuner@...] Im
Auftrag von Lou
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Juni 2012 13:13
An: YaesuTuner@...
Betreff: [YaesuTuner] Re: External controller for FC-40



I am looking for the same information. Has anyone reverse engineered the
communications protocol? A web search some people have done it with ICOMs
tuners.

--- In YaesuTuner@... <mailto:YaesuTuner%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"de_w1jp" <w1jp@...> wrote:

Hey all¡ª

Has anyone built and external controller for the FC-40?

If not, what about the protocol that the controller uses?

Thanks,
Jon
w1jp



Re: External controller for FC-40

Lou
 

I am looking for the same information. Has anyone reverse engineered the communications protocol? A web search some people have done it with ICOMs tuners.

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "de_w1jp" <w1jp@...> wrote:

Hey all¡ª

Has anyone built and external controller for the FC-40?

If not, what about the protocol that the controller uses?

Thanks,
Jon
w1jp


Re: extending tuner control cables

 

Another option is to purchase two cables with a mini 8 DIN connector terminated with an RJ-45 connector. Just run some straight through CAT 5 cable between them to extend to the desired distance. They are available from Pacific Cable . They will also build custom extension cables to your length.

73,
K4PYR

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "Ron - KE5RON" <ron.parker@...> wrote:

I was able to extend my cables with the W4RT pigtails and it worked great. I'm using them at home now on a permanent 43' vertical installation.

One other source I found for the mini DIN connectors and cables is L-COM at www.l-com.com. They have some extension cables in various lengths that I've used with good success with the FC-40. These cables could also be cut in two and spliced into longer cable runs as another option.

--
Ron Parker, KE5RON


Re: extending tuner control cables

 

I was able to extend my cables with the W4RT pigtails and it worked great. I'm using them at home now on a permanent 43' vertical installation.

One other source I found for the mini DIN connectors and cables is L-COM at www.l-com.com. They have some extension cables in various lengths that I've used with good success with the FC-40. These cables could also be cut in two and spliced into longer cable runs as another option.

--
Ron Parker, KE5RON


Re: 148 ft wire testing

 

Try making the wire 145 foot, look at the AH-4 Graphical Length Wire Calculator in the Files Section here in this group.

Doesn't matter if the tuner is Icom or Yaesu, you still have to avoid 1/2 wavelength for the wire antenna.

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "raimo" <oh6bi@...> wrote:

I made a mistake: copying partly from old message:
119 wire first ... should be 148 wire.

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "raimo" <oh6bi@> wrote:

Hi All.

I made 148 feet wire test last weekend.
FC40 is abt 10 ft from ground, 119 wire first straight up 20 feets,
to highest point at 30 feets, after that horisontal and straight
until it ends at 20 ft height. Radio FT897 and FC40.
Just fast test: tune or not..

1810 to 2000 kHz: Tuned
3500 to 3740 kHz: No Tune
3745 to 3800 kHz: Tuned
7000 to 7200 kHz: Tuned
10100 to 10150 kHz: Tuned
14000 to 14350 kHz: No Tune
18068 to 18168 kHz: Tuned
21000 to 21450 kHz: Tuned
24890 to 24990 kHz: Tuned
28000 to 29700 kHz: Tuned
50000 to 52000 kHz: Tuned


73s es gl de rami, oh6bi


Re: extending tuner control cables

 

And with the spare witrs you can parallel the power wires for lower loss
(depends if needed if you have a long run
For me I used just din connectors and I made my own long cable
Have an fc1000
Dg9bfc
Sigi
Ps I use it also with a 1:4 balun on the outside to tune ladderline fed
antennas

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Auftrag von Ron - KE5RON
Gesendet: Sonntag, 19. Juni 2011 00:07
An: YaesuTuner@...
Betreff: [YaesuTuner] Re: extending tuner control cables



Thanks for posting this idea. That is excellent. I've ordered those
pigtails from W4RT and will try something like your idea. I had ordered
some 8 pin mini DIN connectors from Cablestogo but I'm not sure I can
solder wires on those tiny pins. Those pigtails will solve that problem.

I'm working on a portable 43' vertical wire antenna for Field Day. I have
a fiberglass mast from Max Gain Systems with a 43' wire running to the top
of it. I have the FC-40 at the base with the antenna wire on the antenna
post and some radials connected to the ground post. It is tuning
everything from 10 meters down to 160 but I need a longer control cable
since the radio will probably be about 100 feet from the antenna. I'm
using the FT-450 with it for Field Day but have also tried my FT-857D.

--- In YaesuTuner@... <mailto:YaesuTuner%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Charles Penry" <charles@...> wrote:

To remote my FC-40 I use Ethernet cables with DIN to RJ adapters. I
bought
the male and female DIN connectors with short pigtails from W4RT and the
Ethernet cables and connectors from Home Depot. The RJ connectors come
in a
small plastic box for surface mounting on a wall, like the old wired
phone
jacks. I just ran the DIN connector wires to the screw terminals in the
RJ
connector boxes.



I have used two 100' cables with a double female RJ connector between
them
and it worked great at 200' total length. Just watch out for all the
swapping of wires in Ethernet cables - it's been too long since I built
mine
and I don't remember if the wires cross.





73,



Charles

WA5VHU / YI9VHU





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[mailto:YaesuTuner@... <mailto:YaesuTuner%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On
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Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 9:58 AM
To: YaesuTuner@... <mailto:YaesuTuner%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [YaesuTuner] extending tuner control cables








I want to purchase a fc40 but need to locate it 30-40 feet away from the
shack outside. What are you guys using to extend the 15 meter long
cables?



Re: extending tuner control cables

Ron - KE5RON
 

Thanks for posting this idea. That is excellent. I've ordered those pigtails from W4RT and will try something like your idea. I had ordered some 8 pin mini DIN connectors from Cablestogo but I'm not sure I can solder wires on those tiny pins. Those pigtails will solve that problem.

I'm working on a portable 43' vertical wire antenna for Field Day. I have a fiberglass mast from Max Gain Systems with a 43' wire running to the top of it. I have the FC-40 at the base with the antenna wire on the antenna post and some radials connected to the ground post. It is tuning everything from 10 meters down to 160 but I need a longer control cable since the radio will probably be about 100 feet from the antenna. I'm using the FT-450 with it for Field Day but have also tried my FT-857D.

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "Charles Penry" <charles@...> wrote:

To remote my FC-40 I use Ethernet cables with DIN to RJ adapters. I bought
the male and female DIN connectors with short pigtails from W4RT and the
Ethernet cables and connectors from Home Depot. The RJ connectors come in a
small plastic box for surface mounting on a wall, like the old wired phone
jacks. I just ran the DIN connector wires to the screw terminals in the RJ
connector boxes.



I have used two 100' cables with a double female RJ connector between them
and it worked great at 200' total length. Just watch out for all the
swapping of wires in Ethernet cables - it's been too long since I built mine
and I don't remember if the wires cross.





73,



Charles

WA5VHU / YI9VHU





_____

From: YaesuTuner@... [mailto:YaesuTuner@...] On
Behalf Of w8ob
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 9:58 AM
To: YaesuTuner@...
Subject: [YaesuTuner] extending tuner control cables








I want to purchase a fc40 but need to locate it 30-40 feet away from the
shack outside. What are you guys using to extend the 15 meter long cables?