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Re: FC 40 controll cable
The original FT-897 CAT/Tuner control cable pins are 1-1, 2-2, etc
also the metal shield or metal ring on the connector has continuity end to end. 73, Pat KD1XX --- In YaesuTuner@..., "Hanno Vogels" <dg8jz@t...> wrote: Whow... thank you for the "bad" news just in time. Do you have youroriginal cable still available? Can you check if the original cable isstraight? 1:1; 2:2 etc.Im Auftrag von g3ybowrote: tryGood Morning, tooriginalexpand it with some other cables. I do not want to cut the cable.GermanyWill keep you informed as soon as I get the spare cable in from a[mailto:YaesuTuner@...]Mac source. Im120.Auftrag von happy_hamer2001extension subject=Unsubscribe>mybetter.opinion is: Atas on 20-10m better, FC40 /whip combo on 40-80extender of ServiceService<> .I am told that a MAC cable will not work as the connections do <> . |
Re: FC 40 controll cable
Roger Baines
This eight-pin "Mini-DIN" control cable appears to be similar to the Apple
Macintosh serial printer cable for their ImageWriter printer but, like most bi-directional printer cables, one or two wires are crossed (pins 6 and 8 for the Apple) making it useless, as I discovered, for the FC-40. However, a Mini-DIN-8 extension cable (such as the ten foot male to female "Cablestogo.com" No. 09569) works very nicely, since the wires and pins are straight through. This kind of extension cord is becoming hard to find as printer cables are now USB. So far, I have extended the control cable to a total of 60 feet with no loss in performance. Yaesu claims that the tuner box is waterproof but I place a thick white plastic bag over it when I'm home as an added precaution. This info I got off Eham.net on FT 897. 73s Roger |
Re: FC 40 controll cable
Hanno Vogels
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWhow... thank you for the "bad" news just in time. Do you
have your original cable still available? Can you check if the original cable is
straight? 1:1; 2:2 etc.
?
My cable... the short one... is
installed.
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Greetings
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Hanno, DG8JZ in Munich Von: YaesuTuner@... [mailto:YaesuTuner@...] Im Auftrag von g3ybo Gesendet: Freitag, 5. August 2005 00:10 An: YaesuTuner@... Betreff: [YaesuTuner] Re: FC 40 controll cable --- In YaesuTuner@..., "Hanno Vogels"
wrote:
> Good Morning, > I have similar plan to do. Will buy such a spare cable and will try to > expand it with some other cables. I do not want to cut the original cable. > Will keep you informed as soon as I get the spare cable in Germany from a > Mac source. > vy 73 > ----------------------------- > Hanno Vogels, DG8JZ > eMail: Hanno@d... > WIRES. #7124D Echolink: #4904 > phone: +49 8102 729600 > fax: +49 8102 729655 > > <> > <> > <> > > > >?? _____? > > Von: YaesuTuner@... [mailto:YaesuTuner@...] Im > Auftrag von happy_hamer2001 > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Juli 2005 20:16 > An: YaesuTuner@... > Betreff: [YaesuTuner] Re: FC 40 controll cable > > > I am wondering the same information, I would like to buy an extension > cable and then , how long can the cale be? I plan on mounting the FC- > 40 on my 60 foot tower and running a sloper wire. > > > > --- In YaesuTuner@..., "dg8jz" wrote: > > Dar friends, > > I am using the FC40 with my 857 and 897 under several > circumstances. > > In mobile I tested the FC 40 with 1 3m whip against the ATAS 120. > my > > opinion is: Atas on 20-10m better, FC40 /whip combo on 40-80 better. > > > > 6m no chance of dx for a test. > > > > my question: does anybody know a source for an additional extender > > cable for the remote control line? I do not want to cut the > original > > cable. > > > > Greetings from Munich > > > > Hanno, DG8JZ > > > > www.yaesu-museum.com > > www.dg8jz.de > > > > >?? _____? > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > ????? > *????? Visit your group "YaesuTuner > <> " on the web. >?? > > *????? To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >? YaesuTuner-unsubscribe@... > >?? > > *????? Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > <> . > > >?? _____ ???? I am told that a MAC cable will not work as the connections do not go 1-1, 2-2, 3-3 so test before you plug it into the radio. 73s Roger G3YBO |
Re: FC 40 controll cable
g3ybo
--- In YaesuTuner@..., "Hanno Vogels" <dg8jz@t...> wrote:
Good Morning,to expand it with some other cables. I do not want to cut the originalcable. Will keep you informed as soon as I get the spare cable in Germanyfrom a Mac source.Im Auftrag von happy_hamer2001extension cable and then , how long can the cale be? I plan on mounting theFC- 40 on my 60 foot tower and running a sloper wire.better. extender Servicecable for the remote control line? I do not want to cut theoriginalcable. <> .I am told that a MAC cable will not work as the connections do not go 1-1, 2-2, 3-3 so test before you plug it into the radio. 73s Roger G3YBO |
Re: FC 40 controll cable
Hanno Vogels
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýGood Morning,
I have similar plan to do. Will buy such a spare cable and
will try to expand it with some other cables. I do not want to cut the original
cable.
Will keep you informed as soon as I get the spare cable in
Germany from a Mac source.
vy 73
----------------------------- Von: YaesuTuner@... [mailto:YaesuTuner@...] Im Auftrag von happy_hamer2001 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Juli 2005 20:16 An: YaesuTuner@... Betreff: [YaesuTuner] Re: FC 40 controll cable cable and then , how long can the cale be? I plan on mounting the FC- 40 on my 60 foot tower and running a sloper wire. --- In YaesuTuner@..., "dg8jz" wrote: > Dar friends, > I am using the FC40 with my 857 and 897 under several circumstances. > In mobile I tested the FC 40 with 1 3m whip against the ATAS 120. my > opinion is: Atas on 20-10m better, FC40 /whip combo on 40-80 better. > > 6m no chance of dx for a test. > > my question: does anybody know a source for an additional extender > cable for the remote control line? I do not want to cut the original > cable. > > Greetings from Munich > > Hanno, DG8JZ > > www.yaesu-museum.com > www.dg8jz.de |
YAESU ATAS 120
Tony
Hi all. Newbie here.
Just got the FT 857 and the ATAS 120 with a Comet CF530 Duplexer. Just wondering if anyone had any experience with the ATAS 120? It auto-tunes on most bands however a little difficult on 18mhz. All other tune 100% 40m thru to 6m. 1st Question: Is it possible to alter the whip length so as to work 80m? 2nd Question: The ATAS is supposed to be fine on 2m and 70cm. However 2m is 100% but high SWR on 70cm (SWR pops up on 857 screen) Also the power reading on the screen for 2m is very low? Any help and advice would be appreciated. Thanks Tony de M0MTD |
Re: FC 40 controll cable
happy_hamer2001
I am wondering the same information, I would like to buy an extension
cable and then , how long can the cale be? I plan on mounting the FC- 40 on my 60 foot tower and running a sloper wire. --- In YaesuTuner@..., "dg8jz" <dg8jz@t...> wrote: Dar friends,circumstances. In mobile I tested the FC 40 with 1 3m whip against the ATAS 120.my opinion is: Atas on 20-10m better, FC40 /whip combo on 40-80 better.original cable. |
FC 40 controll cable
dg8jz
Dar friends,
I am using the FC40 with my 857 and 897 under several circumstances. In mobile I tested the FC 40 with 1 3m whip against the ATAS 120. my opinion is: Atas on 20-10m better, FC40 /whip combo on 40-80 better. 6m no chance of dx for a test. my question: does anybody know a source for an additional extender cable for the remote control line? I do not want to cut the original cable. Greetings from Munich Hanno, DG8JZ www.yaesu-museum.com www.dg8jz.de |
Question re: FC-40 and portable antenna
gkulin
Good morning,
I am going off to visit my parents in Alberta next month and thinking of bringing my FT-857 and FC-40 with me. I am planning on using one of the electric fences as an antenna. (The fence is not energized, since no cattle are using this field) The fence is approximately 300 m (1000 ft+) approximately 60 cm (2 ft) off the ground and terminated to the ground at the far end. My question is if this would be a viable antenna system? Is there anything I should look out for? 73 de Greg VE3DB |
Re: Digest Number 5
Decossas, Michael
Chuck,
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With a 102" whip, you get 6 meters through 40 meters. You really want the wire from the tuner to the mount as short as possible, although it will work with just about any lenght. Just remember that the "antenna" starts at that connector on the tuner. I have my FC-40 mounted in my aluminum toolbox. I have very little problems with tuning the 102" whip. It usually loads in about 3 to 5 seconds. Hope this helps. Thanks, Mike, KB5OZE -----Original Message-----
From: YaesuTuner@... [mailto:YaesuTuner@...] Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 3:03 AM To: YaesuTuner@... Subject: [YaesuTuner] Digest Number 5 There is 1 message in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. tuner installation From: "Chuck Tobias" <cltoby600@...> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:03:45 -0000 From: "Chuck Tobias" <cltoby600@...> Subject: tuner installation I am thinking of buying a FC-40 for my pickup truck installation and had a few questions. 1.Will the tuner with a 102" whip tune 10 to 80 meters? 2. How long a wire can be used to connect the tuner to the antenna mount? I was thinking of mounting the tuner on the side of the tool box. It would be about a foot from the tuner to the mount ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
tuner installation
Chuck Tobias
I am thinking of buying a FC-40 for my pickup truck installation and
had a few questions. 1.Will the tuner with a 102" whip tune 10 to 80 meters? 2. How long a wire can be used to connect the tuner to the antenna mount? I was thinking of mounting the tuner on the side of the tool box. It would be about a foot from the tuner to the mount |
Re: Can I use a coax from tuner to whip?
Greg:
Don't use coax to connect your tuner to the antenna - the grounded shield acts like a capacitor to ground and your tuner won't 'tuner'. You need to make the wire from the lug to the whip as short as possible - have you considered mounting the FC-40 outside the vehicle? You can use an 4:1 unun or an autotransformer in reverse- check out K0BG's site at . I have used an autotransformer on an powdered iron toroid core on my FC-40 to get my 102" whip down to 60 meters, although I lost some S units on recieve on higher bands. Jay W6SH --- In YaesuTuner@..., "r0de_runr" <r0de_runr@y...> wrote: Hey all,perfect for 10 gauge wire from the fc-40 lugs to the ant.bumper sor something?from the tuner and adapt them to the coax to make the run over to theattach attick mounted slinky to the tuner. |
Can I use a coax from tuner to whip?
r0de_runr
Hey all,
I sold my truck with the 102 inch whip....I had the fc-40 about 3 inchis away from the inside lug of the ball mount so it was perfect for 10 gauge wire from the fc-40 lugs to the ant. Now I cannot drill into my (new) Olds Bravada, so I need to figure another way. Can I cut off the end of a 15ft coax, wire it to the tuner and connect the other end to a pl259 mount for the whip, off the bumper sor something? Didn't think I could use a coax. Also, what if I used a 4:1 balun in reverse to accept the wires from the tuner and adapt them to the coax to make the run over to the whip? Can a balun be used in reverse? Could use it in my shack to attach attick mounted slinky to the tuner. Greg W0GAN Just a dumb general. |
Jeep Wrangler TJ - FT-857D & FC-40
Greeting FC-40 users!
I have uploaded some pictures of the setup in my XYL's Jeep Wrangler TJ in the folder "W6SH Jeep Wrangler TJ - FT-857D & FC-40". Although my XYL would probably tolerate me putting the big ol' ball mount over the rear fender for the whip - in the interests of matrimonial harmony I decided to try for as much of a "bolt on" installation for a FT-857D / FC-40 / 102" inch whip combo as I could manage. It is a low-profile look and happily so far my XYL approves. This setup is just what I ended up with and is probably not optimal - but maybe someone will get some ideas for taking their own FC-40 mobile. Going HF mobile means making compromises - but I have been pleased with the FC-40 since I got it last Christmas. Some mobileer purists would argue for bugcatchers or screwdrivers, but the whip has the advantage for a Jeep of being somewhat more rugged when going off-road. I work downtown and the whip also is easy to pull down to a tie down mounted over the driver's side of the windshield when entering parking garages. I have been pleased with the performance on 20 meters and higher freqs. Tuning on 40 is sometimes hit or miss - the TJ doesn't have a lot of sheet metal for a ground plane. Interestingly, 40 tunes up better when the whip is pulled down. I am experimenting with an 1:4 toroid autotransformer and more grounding braids to see if 40 will tune up better. One issue I haven't had too much trouble with is RFI. TJs are notorious for fuel pump noise, but I quieted mine down by placing several clamp on ferrite beads on the fuel pump power lead as it heads into the gas tank (this is a tight place to get into, however). I also put ferrite beads on the taillight wires to keep down fuel pump RFI - that seemed to help too. Be sure to ground the tailpipe as it can radiate ignition noise too. I still get some ignition noise at times despite having several beads on the ignition wires, I have got some copper conductive adhesive tape however and I will cover and ground those ignition wires as suggested by K0BG (I highly recommend his site for mobileers at www.k0bg.com). The radio is mounted in the aftermarket metal "Insta-trunk" which provides some theft protection. The FC-40, and whip are mounted on a "Arizona Rocky Round" Jeep rear double antenna mount which is made by Rick at arizonarockyroad.com . This mount uses the existing bolt holes for the rear tire mount. The whip is a RadioShack 102" CB whip. The whip insulator is Delrin and available at geotool.com . Voltages at the tuner output can be very high so a good insulator is required here. The VHF antenna is a Comet SBB-7 foldover. I used #10 dual wire from the battery posts - this is hidden along the passenger side floor - both leads are fused. I had to replace the 7 year old battery as it was weak and used a Optima yellow top deep-cycle gel battery. I found a cheap 1 Farad car stereo capacitor at a flea market and put in the trunk to on the power lead to ensure there would be no voltage dips while transmitting - although this is probably unnecessary, it looks good! I used the existing brake light grommet in the tailgate to bring out the HF coax lead, I did have to drill another 1/2" hole in the tailgate to bring out the VHF coax and control lead. I coiled the HF coax into several 6" turns before it entered the tuner to reduce any coax radiation. The mounting plates that come attached to the FC-40 were removed. The tuner is mounted to the back of the Arizona Rockyroad mount using plumbers straps and stainless self-tapping screws and grounded to the mount and tailgate with 1/2" braid. The tailgate is also grounded to the body with 1/2" braid. Conductive grease was used at all ground points. So far I have been impressed with the FC-40, it performs as advertised and seems pretty stable on the road. So far I have worked North America and Europe, I have had S9 reports from W2 and VE7 almost had a VK-land contact during a late band opening on 20m a few nights ago, except he went QRT too soon. I continue to try to improve the setup and I will add new pictures if I think I have made any leaps forward. 73 de Jay W6SH |
Re: FC-40
kc9anq
I have used the LDG tuner before and it has a much larger span of
tuning. You can "make" the LDG tune a non resonant antenna easier than with the Yaesu. The LDG Tuner is capable of a Antenna impedance: 6 to 800 Ohms (Approximately up to 10:1 SWR) where as the FC-30 can tune 17 to 150 Ohms (25 to 100 Ohms on 50 MHz) The info was taken from the Yaesu 897D brochure --- In YaesuTuner@..., "redhusky69" <MJKalik@A...> wrote: --- I just bought a FT-897D- (still in the opened box) being brandbought the FC-30 Tuner -(still in the sealed box) A ham from a largeradio chain of stores suggested I not unseal the box and that I returnit and exchange it for the LDG At-897 with the justification thatthat tuner will permit a larger band width. I would be very grateful ifwas written byaPaul KA6GEM....tune 160 fairlyverycommon limitation of "random wire" antenna tuners, and theredoesn't appearto be a single length that is ideal for ALL bands, although 37feet, in myexperience, comes pretty close. One nice thing is that it is easy toleavingchange your antenna length: just add or subtract a few feet andthat's it! Ihave found that inserting a insulator at about 50 feet and the endseveryof the wires on each side stripped allows the option of simplyconnectingthem or disconnecting them to work the 160 meter band or perhapsthe 60meter band, etc.feet, the band butexcellentthe signal reports for the longer wavelength bands (80, 60, 40etc.) weremarginal. As I increased the length of wire, I gained betterperformance onone band but lost on others. At about 85 feet, I received reportstheon 40 meters, but then I could not tune on the 80 meter band as lengthmeterswas too close to a half wave. and theorother for 40 meters. The 80 meter dipole performed better by one two "S"haveunits than the FC-40 with a 65 foot quarter wave wire. I don't enough190real estate to extend the wire to a three quarter wave or about feet forperformedthe 80 meter band. very well40and the signal reports tended to be an "S" unit higher than the meterto adipole. Although it's a vertically polarized antenna, I have notnoticed anymajor increase in noise with the FC-40 random wire as compared dipole.and I made myaboutfirst contact on the top band in almost 15 years with a wire 85 feetwaslong. I had nothing to compare it to but the signal report I got theirexcellent.air, mostly automaticperformance. In summary, I'm very pleased with this new antennawithouttuner. I'd give the Yaesu FC-40 a solid "5" (on a 5 scale) ishesitation."""group. just 6using ameter LOL no conditions yet. Ifulll wave loop for 160 meter. I will let the group know what find byfieldnext weekend. I plan on running a "test" with a loop before day.week..wrote: perform well?? |
Re: FC-40
redhusky69
--- I just bought a FT-897D- (still in the opened box) being brand
new to the Ham World since a novice license in 1967 - I also bought the FC-30 Tuner -(still in the sealed box) A ham from a large radio chain of stores suggested I not unseal the box and that I return it and exchange it for the LDG At-897 with the justification that that tuner will permit a larger band width. I would be very grateful if anyone would provide me with whatever comments they might have concerning this "advice" - Thank you for your reply - Mark - KC2OCY In YaesuTuner@..., "Robbie Phelan" <robbiephelan@h...> wrote: Thanks Bill,written by Paul KA6GEM....tune 160 through 6 meters as Yaesu claims but it is entirely dependant onthe length of the wire. Based on my findings, it will not tune a half-wave, afairly common limitation of "random wire" antenna tuners, and theredoesn't appear to be a single length that is ideal for ALL bands, although 37feet, in my experience, comes pretty close. One nice thing is that it is veryeasy to change your antenna length: just add or subtract a few feet andthat's it! I have found that inserting a insulator at about 50 feet and leavingthe ends of the wires on each side stripped allows the option of simplyconnecting them or disconnecting them to work the 160 meter band or perhapsthe 60 meter band, etc.feet, the upper limit at my QTH. At 37 feet, I could tune up on almost everyband but the signal reports for the longer wavelength bands (80, 60, 40etc.) were marginal. As I increased the length of wire, I gained betterperformance on one band but lost on others. At about 85 feet, I received excellentreports on 40 meters, but then I could not tune on the 80 meter band as thelength was too close to a half wave.and the other for 40 meters. The 80 meter dipole performed better by one ortwo "S" units than the FC-40 with a 65 foot quarter wave wire. I don't haveenough real estate to extend the wire to a three quarter wave or about 190feet for the 80 meter band.very well and the signal reports tended to be an "S" unit higher than the 40meter dipole. Although it's a vertically polarized antenna, I have notnoticed any major increase in noise with the FC-40 random wire as compared to adipole. made my first contact on the top band in almost 15 years with a wire about85 feet long. I had nothing to compare it to but the signal report I got wasair, mostly in mobile set ups and both operators seemed very pleased with theirantenna tuner. I'd give the Yaesu FC-40 a solid "5" (on a 5 scale) withoutgroup. success, contactsIt makes 60 meter in the USA a WALK IN THE PARK to use. I made able towith great results on all bands but 160 and 6, I have not been just 6tune up on 160 with such a short wire and 6 ,,,,,well 6 meter is find bymeter LOL no conditions yet. day.next weekend. I plan on running a "test" with a loop before field wrote: well??I just purchased a FC-40 from Ebay... Should have it next week..
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Opinions for dockside operation
Hi,
Looking for some opinions on operating a FT-857 with the FC-40 dockside portable. After reading the June issue of QST and reading 'A Portable Inverted V Antenna' article, I am thinking of modifying it. My plans are to change the antenna from the inverted V to a loop and then use the water for the ground. My other choice may be to use the triadic on the sailboat, but since I plan to operate on the dock, I am worried about the stress which would be placed on the patch cables to the rig. Also by using the loop it would also allow for more portable operations in the future. Any help would be appreciated. 73 de Greg VE3DB |
FC-40 mobile installation
Decossas, Michael
Well, right now I am using a standard 102" whip. I am still in a testing phase. I have had some problems using a coupler in the Dakota. With the current setup though, the FC-40/FT-857 was receiving almost as good as my FT-847 on a 60' long wire with a SGC-230. I have a Houston trip (driving) coming up and hopefully will have more information during and after that. I am thinking of replacing the 102" whip with something a little longer, maybe in the 12' range. I will definitely update everyone on how it goes.
Thanks, Mike Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 21:01:00 -0000 From: "kc9anq" <kc9anq@...> Subject: Re: FC-40 mobile installation Nice install Mike, Are you using a regular 102 inch whip? What kind of luck are you having? --- In YaesuTuner@..., "kb5oze" <mike@d...> wrote: I have uploaded some pictures that show my mobile installation. Feel ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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