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Anyone using both the AT-897 and the FC-40 together?

paulcbg
 

I am using both the LDG "AT-897" and my FC-40 with three antennas and
a control switch. Is anyone else doing the same?

The control cable for the AT-897 is connected to the back of my FT-
897D in the usual manner at the radio's Antenna Tuner port and the
control cable for the FC-40 is connected to the AT-897's auxilary
Antenna Tuner port at the lower backside.

I also have the auto-tune cable connecting my AT-897 to the ACC port
on the back of the FT-897D. This makes tuning the AT-897 really
simple: just push the button on the AT-897 for a few seconds, the red
light on the turner turns on, and the radio goes into a transmit stage
automatically while the AT-897 seeks a match. This is a great solution
for 60 meters.

The coax cables for my three antennas are connected to a three
position switch, 1 is my "Cobra Junior", 2 is my FC-40 random wire,
and 3 is a resonate 75 meter dipole.

To use the antennas:

Antenna 1: (a "Cobra Junior") - I switch the cable switch to the first
position and depress the AT-897's tune button.

Antenna 2: (a 93 foot wire connected to the FC-40) - I switch the
antenna selector to the second position; Tap the button on the AT-897
once quickly, which shuts off the AT-897 and passes everything through
like it's not there; then I touch the TUNE button on the FT-897D (menu
k or the F1 programmable key on my MH-59).

Antenna 3: (75 meter dipole) - I simply switch the antenna selector to
the third position and depress the tune button on the AT-897 once
quickly. No tuning is required.

The only quirky thing that seems to happen is with the AT-897...
evidently touching the tune button is a toggle and it's sometimes hard
to know what position it's in. If I get a HSWR when tuning my FC-40,
I have to flip over to my first antenna, tune it first with the AT-897
and then flip back to the FC-40 and shut off the AT-897 as I described
earlier.

There doesn't appear to be any loop issues and signal reports are
excellent for all antennas although comparisons between my "Cobra
Junior" and my FC-40 on 40 meters always favor my FC-40 by about 2 "S"
units.

Regards,
Paul
KA6GEM


Is this a silly idea??? FC-40 feeding an ATAS-25

john84866
 

Hi folks, I'm new round here

I use an FT 897d and have recently come by an atas-25 (the manual
version of an atas 120)

I was wondering about feeding the atas-25 via the fc40 to avoid the
manual tuning or am I just being plain silly!

thanks in advance

Best wishes, John MM1ANP


RF on control cable

wa5vro
 

Any suggestions for removing RF on the control cable for the FC-40. I
was unable to get the tuner to tune a long wire except for 80 meters.
I installed dipoles for 40 through 15 meters. When I use the 15-meter
dipole, the radio does funny things. I determined that there was RF
coming in on the control cable.

I have several chokes on cable and this does not seem to help. Any
suggestions?

I know that I really need to improve my grounding, but it is kind of
hard when there is limestone and rock 3-inches below the dirt.

Thanks and Happy New Year!


Re: RF on control cable

KC9ANQ
 

try running a few 1/4 wave radials for each band from the ground side

how long is you wire?


--- In YaesuTuner@..., "wa5vro" <txwa5vro@a...> wrote:

Any suggestions for removing RF on the control cable for the FC-
40. I
was unable to get the tuner to tune a long wire except for 80
meters.
I installed dipoles for 40 through 15 meters. When I use the 15-
meter
dipole, the radio does funny things. I determined that there was
RF
coming in on the control cable.

I have several chokes on cable and this does not seem to help.
Any
suggestions?

I know that I really need to improve my grounding, but it is kind
of
hard when there is limestone and rock 3-inches below the dirt.

Thanks and Happy New Year!


Re: Is this a silly idea??? FC-40 feeding an ATAS-25

Kyle N4NSS
 

Since the 25 is manual, I think?the antenna has to be adjusted to the portion of the band you wish to work.? I don't think your idea is very efficient.? I use?a 102 inch whip with all band tuning.?

john84866 wrote:
Hi folks, I'm new round here

I use an FT 897d and have recently come by an atas-25? (the manual
version of an atas 120)

I was wondering about feeding the atas-25 via the fc40 to avoid the
manual tuning or am I just being plain silly!

thanks in advance

Best wishes, John?? MM1ANP








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Re: RF on control cable

Kyle N4NSS
 

If you can get the tuner grounded to a metal water pipe or try the AC ground.
?
My tuner is grounded with a 2 foot length of wire to one ground rod and then to the AC ground rod a few feet from the first rod.? The antenna is a wire above my 6 foot wood fence that goes around the back yard.? I work stations 160 thru 6 meters.??NO RF feedback here.

wa5vro wrote:
Any suggestions for removing RF on the control cable for the FC-40.? I
was unable to get the tuner to tune a long wire except for 80 meters.?
I installed dipoles for 40 through 15 meters.? When I use the 15-meter
dipole, the radio does funny things.? I determined that there was RF
coming in on the control cable.

I have several chokes on cable and this does not seem to help.? Any
suggestions?

I know that I really need to improve my grounding, but it is kind of
hard when there is limestone and rock 3-inches below the dirt.

Thanks and Happy New Year!





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Hi SWR on 40 meters

Bob Lancon
 

Just installed the Ft-857D, FC-40, Hustler bumper strap mount and 102"
SS Whip in my truck. It works on all bands but 40 meters (high SWR) I
have tried extra lenght of coax added to the supplied coax. I have
added Ground cable from tuner to frame and still no luck.... I did put
a 40 meter Ham Stick on it and it tuned it no problem. Any suggestions
would be appreciated.
Thanks
Bob


Re: Hi SWR on 40 meters

Kyle N4NSS
 

The Ham Stick has inductance.? Add a few turns of coil at the base of the antenna.
OR improve the bumper to chassis ground. or Both.
?
Make sure the tuner is close to the base of the antenna.


Bob Lancon wrote:
Just installed the Ft-857D, FC-40, Hustler bumper strap mount and 102"
SS Whip in my truck. It works on all bands but 40 meters (high SWR) I
have tried extra lenght of coax added to the supplied coax. I have
added Ground cable from tuner to frame and still no luck.... I did put
a 40 meter Ham Stick on it and it tuned it no problem. Any suggestions
would be appreciated.
Thanks
Bob?





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Re: Hi SWR on 40 meters

Bob Lancon
 

Kyle, thanks for the response. I did play with it a little last
night and noticed that it does tune from 7.050 to 7.200 but any
higher will produce high SWR.... I will try adding the Ground to
the base of the whip and see if this helps... When you say a few
turns of coil at the base of the antenna are you talking about
coiling the coax and making a choke? Again, thanks for the help.
N5DMT
Bob
--- In YaesuTuner@..., Kyle N4NSS <n4nss@y...> wrote:

The Ham Stick has inductance. Add a few turns of coil at the base
of the antenna.
OR improve the bumper to chassis ground. or Both.

Make sure the tuner is close to the base of the antenna.


Bob Lancon <N5DMT@a...> wrote:
Just installed the Ft-857D, FC-40, Hustler bumper strap mount
and 102"
SS Whip in my truck. It works on all bands but 40 meters (high
SWR) I
have tried extra lenght of coax added to the supplied coax. I have
added Ground cable from tuner to frame and still no luck.... I did
put
a 40 meter Ham Stick on it and it tuned it no problem. Any
suggestions
would be appreciated.
Thanks
Bob





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Re: Hi SWR on 40 meters

Kyle N4NSS
 

Bob,
You could try two things:
1.? Put about five turns of coax about 5 inches in diameter at the base of the antenna.
2.? Put?a few turns ( 10 X 1"?) of #14 gage wire at the base of the antenna.
?
I'm just guessing here but, good luck!

Bob Lancon wrote:
Kyle, thanks for the response.? I did play with it a little last night and noticed that it does tune from 7.050 to 7.200 but any higher will produce high SWR....? I will try adding the Ground to the base of the whip and see if this helps...? When you say a few
turns of coil at the base of the antenna are you talking about coiling the coax and making a choke?? Again, thanks for the help.
N5DMT
Bob
--- In YaesuTuner@..., Kyle N4NSS wrote:
>
> The Ham Stick has inductance.? Add a few turns of coil at the base
of the antenna.
>?? OR improve the bumper to chassis ground. or Both.
>???
>?? Make sure the tuner is close to the base of the antenna.
>??
>
> Bob Lancon wrote:
>?? Just installed the Ft-857D, FC-40, Hustler bumper strap mount
and 102"
> SS Whip in my truck. It works on all bands but 40 meters (high
SWR) I
> have tried extra lenght of coax added to the supplied coax. I have
> added Ground cable from tuner to frame and still no luck.... I did
put
> a 40 meter Ham Stick on it and it tuned it no problem. Any
suggestions
> would be appreciated.
> Thanks
> Bob?
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Re: Hi SWR on 40 meters

Bob Lancon
 

Kyle,
The 5 turns did the trick and it is tuning great now, thanks for
your help!
N5DMT
Bob

--- In YaesuTuner@..., Kyle N4NSS <n4nss@y...> wrote:

Bob,
You could try two things:
1. Put about five turns of coax about 5 inches in diameter at
the base of the antenna.
2. Put a few turns ( 10 X 1" ) of #14 gage wire at the base of
the antenna.

I'm just guessing here but, good luck!

Bob Lancon <N5DMT@a...> wrote:
Kyle, thanks for the response. I did play with it a little last
night and noticed that it does tune from 7.050 to 7.200 but any
higher will produce high SWR.... I will try adding the Ground to
the base of the whip and see if this helps... When you say a few
turns of coil at the base of the antenna are you talking about
coiling the coax and making a choke? Again, thanks for the help.
N5DMT
Bob
--- In YaesuTuner@..., Kyle N4NSS <n4nss@y...> wrote:

The Ham Stick has inductance. Add a few turns of coil at the
base
of the antenna.
OR improve the bumper to chassis ground. or Both.

Make sure the tuner is close to the base of the antenna.


Bob Lancon <N5DMT@a...> wrote:
Just installed the Ft-857D, FC-40, Hustler bumper strap mount
and 102"
SS Whip in my truck. It works on all bands but 40 meters (high
SWR) I
have tried extra lenght of coax added to the supplied coax. I
have
added Ground cable from tuner to frame and still no luck.... I
did
put
a 40 meter Ham Stick on it and it tuned it no problem. Any
suggestions
would be appreciated.
Thanks
Bob





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Re: Hi SWR on 40 meters

Kyle N4NSS
 

WOW !?? That's great.....

Bob Lancon wrote:
Kyle,
The 5 turns did the trick and it is tuning great now, thanks for
your help!
N5DMT
Bob

--- In YaesuTuner@..., Kyle N4NSS wrote:
>
> Bob,
>?? You could try two things:
>?? 1.? Put about five turns of coax about 5 inches in diameter at
the base of the antenna.
>?? 2.? Put a few turns ( 10 X 1" ) of #14 gage wire at the base of
the antenna.
>???
>?? I'm just guessing here but, good luck!
>
> Bob Lancon wrote:
>?? Kyle, thanks for the response.? I did play with it a little last
night and noticed that it does tune from 7.050 to 7.200 but any
higher will produce high SWR....? I will try adding the Ground to
the base of the whip and see if this helps...? When you say a few
> turns of coil at the base of the antenna are you talking about
coiling the coax and making a choke?? Again, thanks for the help.
> N5DMT
> Bob
> --- In YaesuTuner@..., Kyle N4NSS wrote:
> >
> > The Ham Stick has inductance.? Add a few turns of coil at the
base
> of the antenna.
> >?? OR improve the bumper to chassis ground. or Both.
> >???
> >?? Make sure the tuner is close to the base of the antenna.
> >??
> >
> > Bob Lancon wrote:
> >?? Just installed the Ft-857D, FC-40, Hustler bumper strap mount
> and 102"
> > SS Whip in my truck. It works on all bands but 40 meters (high
> SWR) I
> > have tried extra lenght of coax added to the supplied coax. I
have
> > added Ground cable from tuner to frame and still no luck.... I
did
> put
> > a 40 meter Ham Stick on it and it tuned it no problem. Any
> suggestions
> > would be appreciated.
> > Thanks
> > Bob?
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Long Loop (80m) gives "high swr" warnings on several bands - why?

Clive
 

Hi folks, after moving to FINLAND where its very cold now, I put up a
longwire loop of approx 84 metres of wire. Its fed with 300-ohms
radioshack line.

The tuner WON'T tune this on the lower bands (but its fantastic on
20m.)

I'm going to try shortening the loop slightly to around 81m, but
before that has anyone got any advice? Why is the SWR so high for the
tuner?

Antenna is about 5m up, and the feedline is about 4.5m.

Ground here is solid granite rock... hence the loop!

Cheers
Clve4


Re: Long Loop (80m) gives "high swr" warnings on several bands -...

 

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In a message dated 1/23/2006 1:59:31 PM Central Standard Time, l81ker@... writes:
Hi folks, after moving to FINLAND where its very cold now, I put up a
longwire loop of approx 84 metres of wire. Its fed with 300-ohms
radioshack line.

The tuner WON'T tune this on the lower bands (but its fantastic on
20m.)

I'm going to try shortening the loop slightly to around 81m, but
before that has anyone got any advice? Why is the SWR so high for the
tuner?

Antenna is about 5m up, and the feedline is about 4.5m.

Ground here is solid granite rock... hence the loop!

Cheers
Clve4
The short answer is "High Current."
?
Look at the AH-4 Graphical Wire Length Calculator in the files section of this group.? Yes, the AH-4 is an Icom product, but it is the wire length that is important, not the brand of tuner.
The file is in Xcel 2003.? As is, it's set for dipole/long wire, but the constant is given for loops too.
?
Plug in the constant for loops and AVOID the lengths shown on the chart.? Try to find a length that has no data points on the graph.? Remember to start long and trim slowly.
?
?
73
Gary
KC9DJQ?


Re: Long Loop (80m) gives "high swr" warnings on several bands -...

Clive
 

Aha, so basically I hit smack in the midst of the next "bad" point,
277ft (84.4m) to 283ft (86.25m) - my landlord is advertising for
rent the place adjoining mine, and he's already given the ok for the
ham antenna, and cos he's showing the place I slung my wire up
without research or planning, and the longest bit to hand that
wasn't bright red or yellow/green happened to be that long :>]

Seems like I need to trim it to 270ft! (82.29m)

I'll try trimming it and see what happens next....


Keep you all informed and if success is my reward then I'll post
pics.

Cheers
Clive

OH/G1WZM aka 9V1AZ



--- In YaesuTuner@..., gkstemple@a... wrote:


In a message dated 1/23/2006 1:59:31 PM Central Standard Time,
l81ker@y... writes:

Hi folks, after moving to FINLAND where its very cold now, I put
up a
longwire loop of approx 84 metres of wire. Its fed with 300-ohms
radioshack line.

The tuner WON'T tune this on the lower bands (but its fantastic
on
20m.)

I'm going to try shortening the loop slightly to around 81m, but
before that has anyone got any advice? Why is the SWR so high for
the
tuner?

Antenna is about 5m up, and the feedline is about 4.5m.

Ground here is solid granite rock... hence the loop!

Cheers
Clve4



The short answer is "High Current."

Look at the AH-4 Graphical Wire Length Calculator in the files
section of
this group. Yes, the AH-4 is an Icom product, but it is the wire
length that
is important, not the brand of tuner.
The file is in Xcel 2003. As is, it's set for dipole/long wire,
but the
constant is given for loops too.

Plug in the constant for loops and AVOID the lengths shown on the
chart.
Try to find a length that has no data points on the graph.
Remember to start
long and trim slowly.

_
()

73
Gary
KC9DJQ


Re: Long Loop (80m) gives "high swr" warnings on several bands -...

KC9ANQ
 

Check out the excel spread sheet for the AH-4 long wire antenna
lengths in the file section of the group


--- In YaesuTuner@..., "Clive" <l81ker@y...> wrote:

Aha, so basically I hit smack in the midst of the next "bad"
point,
277ft (84.4m) to 283ft (86.25m) - my landlord is advertising for
rent the place adjoining mine, and he's already given the ok for
the
ham antenna, and cos he's showing the place I slung my wire up
without research or planning, and the longest bit to hand that
wasn't bright red or yellow/green happened to be that long :>]

Seems like I need to trim it to 270ft! (82.29m)

I'll try trimming it and see what happens next....


Keep you all informed and if success is my reward then I'll post
pics.

Cheers
Clive

OH/G1WZM aka 9V1AZ



--- In YaesuTuner@..., gkstemple@a... wrote:


In a message dated 1/23/2006 1:59:31 PM Central Standard Time,
l81ker@y... writes:

Hi folks, after moving to FINLAND where its very cold now, I
put
up a
longwire loop of approx 84 metres of wire. Its fed with 300-
ohms
radioshack line.

The tuner WON'T tune this on the lower bands (but its fantastic
on
20m.)

I'm going to try shortening the loop slightly to around 81m,
but
before that has anyone got any advice? Why is the SWR so high
for
the
tuner?

Antenna is about 5m up, and the feedline is about 4.5m.

Ground here is solid granite rock... hence the loop!

Cheers
Clve4



The short answer is "High Current."

Look at the AH-4 Graphical Wire Length Calculator in the files
section of
this group. Yes, the AH-4 is an Icom product, but it is the
wire
length that
is important, not the brand of tuner.
The file is in Xcel 2003. As is, it's set for dipole/long wire,
but the
constant is given for loops too.

Plug in the constant for loops and AVOID the lengths shown on
the
chart.
Try to find a length that has no data points on the graph.
Remember to start
long and trim slowly.

_
()

73
Gary
KC9DJQ


Re: Long Loop (80m) gives "high swr" warnings on several bands - why?

Kyle N4NSS
 

The FC-40 is a wire tuner.? what are you doing with the other side of the 300 ohm line?

Clive wrote:
Hi folks, after moving to FINLAND where its very cold now, I put up a
longwire loop of approx 84 metres of wire. Its fed with 300-ohms
radioshack line.

The tuner WON'T tune this on the lower bands (but its fantastic on
20m.)

I'm going to try shortening the loop slightly to around 81m, but
before that has anyone got any advice? Why is the SWR so high for the
tuner?

Antenna is about 5m up, and the feedline is about 4.5m.

Ground here is solid granite rock... hence the loop!

Cheers
Clve4






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