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FC-40 Back on track

 

Let's try to get this group back on track!


External controller for FC-40

de_w1jp
 

Hey all¡ª

Has anyone built and external controller for the FC-40?

If not, what about the protocol that the controller uses?

Thanks,
Jon
w1jp


Re: FC-40 Mobile/

de_w1jp
 

I have a full 108" whip and the lowest band I can get is 30m.

I have heard of other people leveraging a capacitance hat and getting down to 80m.

$0.02,
Jon
w1jp


Re: A new FC-40 group ?

 

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I have no fc 40 BUT an fc1000 by yaesu,,,,

I had some spare room in it and put a 1:4 balun on the output side ¡­.

Now with a jumper wire I can switch that balun in and can tune dipoles, loops or other things that the mobile tuner otherwise could not handle

You can not put the balun on the input side (but coiling up a few feet of the coax does help a bit) cause you have a second device (control head) on the trx side that is grounded at the trx so you can not just make a current balun on the inside like with an sgc tuner ¡­.

Many many manufacturers build (manual) tuners with a 1:4 on the outside so I thought to try it out on a fieldday with different antennas¡­.

If you have an autotuner (regardless what others say and regardless what manufacturer) just try it out with an external balun on the output side

If the tuner can not tune it on a band or two just make the ladderline or the antenna a few feet longer (or shorter) and make another try on all bands ¡­.

With that setup /the tuner with balun) I can now tune on any band with a pushbutton ¡­

That worked on fieldday with different dipoles (all ladderline fed) and on my fullsize loop at home¡­.

I would like to hear more of different setups from others ¡­..

What did you try with your yaesu tuner?

What length of antenna worked what lengths should be avoided?

Did you make any mods on your tuner?

What mods??

I am also thinking about changing some of the larger coils in the fc1000 ¡­..better q > lower losses > can handle more power ¡­. That is what I hope

I also made a small mod in the controlhead of the fc1000

I have a swr meter with led built in cause in the control head there was also some spare room

(I like mods that can fill the spare room that the manufacturer left hi hi )

What did others do with their rigs and tuners??

Greetz and 73

Dg9bfc

Sigi

Ps: on my fc901 manual tuner I also put a 1:4 in and changed the bandswitch to a unit with more contacts (warc bands) but that¡¯s another story J


Re: A new FC-40 group ?

raimo
 

Hi Ken.
I tried to contact moderators and owner but no success.
Not contacted to Yahoo.

There is new group: Yaesu-Autotuners. It is controlled by the owner
F5PSR, Cedrick. All messages has to be approved by him, so the group
will be spam-free. Just join that group, nice to get you there.
I am just member (internet is taking too much my time..).
When I have some more time I will copy all my FC40 info there.

After long winter I finally reached my "Wire-Farm" at cottage,
connected FC40 to FT897, but it is not tuning anymore.
When pressing rig tune button ther comes "wait" info to screen but
nothing happening. Then opened tuner and found some voltages.
Right now time problems but later will start testing again.

73s de rami, oh6bi

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "girtab" <klhutch@...> wrote:



--- In YaesuTuner@..., "kc5cqw" <kc5cqw@> wrote:

I second this motion. All in favor say "I".

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "k8nxx" <n4cla@> wrote:

Good morning Cedric,

I too would like to see the group continue even though I am not an owner of one of these Yaesu tuners. It is always interesting to read what others are doing and see if maybe their learning / errors will help others.

So yes, count me in.

Fred - N4CLA

In spite of owning an FC-40 I don't hang out here much. Just dropped in today to find a lot of spam and this thread which is certainly justified. I guess the list owner has gone missing? If he/she ever bothered to appoint any moderators they must have gone missing too. Yet there is some content here that would be missed if we lost it.

Does anyone know if YahooGroups policy allows group members to take over a group that has been abandoned by its creator?

If they do I would propose we take over this group, purge the spam that is still resident in the web based group archive, and change the membership policy to require that first posts be moderated so that spammers can be eliminated. They hardly ever bother to make an on topic post to evade this simple anti-spam policy, they just move on to groups with no protection. Like this one!

Any interest or have you all already left? Of course it won't matter if YahooGroups will not allow group members to seize an abandoned group.

Ken


Re: A new FC-40 group ?

girtab
 

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "kc5cqw" <kc5cqw@...> wrote:

I second this motion. All in favor say "I".

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "k8nxx" <n4cla@> wrote:

Good morning Cedric,

I too would like to see the group continue even though I am not an owner of one of these Yaesu tuners. It is always interesting to read what others are doing and see if maybe their learning / errors will help others.

So yes, count me in.

Fred - N4CLA

In spite of owning an FC-40 I don't hang out here much. Just dropped in today to find a lot of spam and this thread which is certainly justified. I guess the list owner has gone missing? If he/she ever bothered to appoint any moderators they must have gone missing too. Yet there is some content here that would be missed if we lost it.

Does anyone know if YahooGroups policy allows group members to take over a group that has been abandoned by its creator?

If they do I would propose we take over this group, purge the spam that is still resident in the web based group archive, and change the membership policy to require that first posts be moderated so that spammers can be eliminated. They hardly ever bother to make an on topic post to evade this simple anti-spam policy, they just move on to groups with no protection. Like this one!

Any interest or have you all already left? Of course it won't matter if YahooGroups will not allow group members to seize an abandoned group.

Ken


The new Yaesu autotuners is born !

 

Hello everybody,

I just started on the new group.
So I have got a lot of things to do improve it is just the begining and I'm interested in any kind of ideas.

The link to reach the group home page is:



I hope a lot of users would be interested in trying it.

Following the idea given by Carl, KE1EJH, I called it Yaesu autotuners.

And there, as here (!), we'll be able to discuss about any kind of Yeasu autotuners or automatic antennas.

Please join it, try it and make you feel at home... to stay !

73 - Cedric
F5PSR


Re: A new FC-40 group ?

Martin Watson
 

I am a newby to ham radio, still studying to take the exams and have been following this forum as I have a yaesu radio which has been opened up for marine band so that I can eventually install it on my sailboat. Though I am not a contributor ( I don't know enough yet!) I am interested in the experiments others have been making to increase the transmission and reception of the useable spectrum, as I will obviously have similar issues when I eventually install my transceiver on my boat. I too am fed up with the amount of spam that has started to appear on this site, so would be interested in an alternative.

Martin Watson


--- On Thu, 8/4/10, kc5cqw wrote:

From: kc5cqw
Subject: [YaesuTuner] Re: A new FC-40 group ?
To: YaesuTuner@...
Date: Thursday, 8 April, 2010, 1:48

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I second this motion. All in favor say "I".

--- In YaesuTuner@yahoogro ups.com, "k8nxx" wrote:
>
> Good morning Cedric,
>
> I too would like to see the group continue even though I am not an owner of one of these Yaesu tuners. It is always interesting to read what others are doing and see if maybe their learning / errors will help others.
>
> So yes, count me in.
>
> Fred - N4CLA
>



Re: A new FC-40 group ?

kc5cqw
 

I second this motion. All in favor say "I".

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "k8nxx" <n4cla@...> wrote:

Good morning Cedric,

I too would like to see the group continue even though I am not an owner of one of these Yaesu tuners. It is always interesting to read what others are doing and see if maybe their learning / errors will help others.

So yes, count me in.

Fred - N4CLA


Re: A new FC-40 group ?

k8nxx
 

Good morning Cedric,

I too would like to see the group continue even though I am not an owner of one of these Yaesu tuners. It is always interesting to read what others are doing and see if maybe their learning / errors will help others.

So yes, count me in.

Fred - N4CLA


Re: A new FC-40 group ?

Carl Davis
 

Hi Cedric, I also have a FC-40 and ATAS-100 along with a FC-30. Are we looking to make a new group to keep the spammers out? May be Yaesu-Autotuners and have key words that would include all the models in the description of the group. I don't know if it would increase the amount of postings by members but I think a lot of the lurkers would still find the files and posted info helpful.
Carl, KB1EJH

--- On Wed, 4/7/10, C??dric <supercontroleur@...> wrote:

From: C??dric <supercontroleur@...>
Subject: [YaesuTuner] A new FC-40 group ?
To: YaesuTuner@...
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 4:29 AM
Hello everybody,

I'm Cedric, my call is F5PSR, I'm a FC-40 and ATAS-100
owner.

I don't write here but as I spend a lot of my time on the
Web (I'm moderator on others french groups) I propose to
create a new group on Yahoo as it seems there is no more
moderator here.

Tell me if you are interested in this idea or not.

If you are OK, tell me also the title you would like to
have on this new group.

73 - Cedric
f5psr






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Re : Re: A new FC-40 group ?

 

Thanks rami for your post,
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Of course the group would be in English !
Not in french...
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73 - Cedric
f5psr

--- En date de?: Mer 7.4.10, raimo a ¨¦crit?:


De: raimo
Objet: [YaesuTuner] Re: A new FC-40 group ?
?: YaesuTuner@...
Date: Mercredi 7 avril 2010, 11h53

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Hi Cedric.

Only Problem I can see is the language.
.. Somehow I can write and read English but French not at all.
My position will be just as a member, I am using already
too much time in the web.

73s de rami, oh6bi

--- In , C??dric wrote:
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> I'm Cedric, my call is F5PSR, I'm a FC-40 and ATAS-100 owner.
>
> I don't write here but as I spend a lot of my time on the Web (I'm moderator on others french groups) I propose to create a new group on Yahoo as it seems there is no more moderator here.
>
> Tell me if you are interested in this idea or not.
>
> If you are OK, tell me also the title you would like to have on this new group.
>
> 73 - Cedric
> f5psr
>



Re: A new FC-40 group ?

raimo
 

Hi Cedric.

Only Problem I can see is the language.
.. Somehow I can write and read English but French not at all.
My position will be just as a member, I am using already
too much time in the web.

73s de rami, oh6bi

--- In YaesuTuner@..., C??dric <supercontroleur@...> wrote:

Hello everybody,

I'm Cedric, my call is F5PSR, I'm a FC-40 and ATAS-100 owner.

I don't write here but as I spend a lot of my time on the Web (I'm moderator on others french groups) I propose to create a new group on Yahoo as it seems there is no more moderator here.

Tell me if you are interested in this idea or not.

If you are OK, tell me also the title you would like to have on this new group.

73 - Cedric
f5psr


A new FC-40 group ?

 

Hello everybody,

I'm Cedric, my call is F5PSR, I'm a FC-40 and ATAS-100 owner.

I don't write here but as I spend a lot of my time on the Web (I'm moderator on others french groups) I propose to create a new group on Yahoo as it seems there is no more moderator here.

Tell me if you are interested in this idea or not.

If you are OK, tell me also the title you would like to have on this new group.

73 - Cedric
f5psr


Re: Seriously?!

raimo ilkka
 

Hello FC-40 users. ( I dont mean these spammers !!)

I tried to sen kindly notes to owner but his email address
doesnt exsist anymore. If looking member list there can be found
two moderators. Only one address is working but no any reply.
If nothing happens after while I will quit.

Anyone good ideas for alternative list,,, or if somebody wants to
start new ??

73s es GL de rami, oh6bi

--- On Tue, 6/4/10, kc5cqw <kc5cqw@...> wrote:

From: kc5cqw <kc5cqw@...>
Subject: [YaesuTuner] Seriously?!
To: YaesuTuner@...
Date: Tuesday, 6 April, 2010, 23:59
Is their a moderator for this group?
PLEASE BLOCK THE SPAMERS!!!



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Seriously?!

kc5cqw
 

Is their a moderator for this group?
PLEASE BLOCK THE SPAMERS!!!


Re: FC-40 Mobile/

kc5cqw
 

It looks like you have it covered except...
What are you using for a mount?
Isolation from ground here is critical.
Take a look at my posted pictures; I use a Breedlove HF Insulator. Well worth the $40.
You need a high voltage dielectric with very low capacitance.
This setup can produce upwards of 10's of kilovolts!
I added a cap hat just incase; it seems to help.
Personally, I haven't made a contact on 40m yet.
My estimation is that I only have about 25-40% efficiency on 40m.
Probably less... I haven't dedicated any significant time in figuring the numbers.
My setup tunes from 7.1MHz up to 6m just fine.

Feel free to contact me for further info if needed:
my call at gmail dot com

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "kd4hri" <mark@...> wrote:

Is anyone else using the fc40 mobile to drive a whip?

I have my FC40 mounted onto the spare tire bracket of my RAv4. It is connected to a 1/4 CB whip (only 2-3 inches of wire between.) The ground on the FC-40 is directly connected to the ground of the vehicle and all part of the vehicle and bounded together by grounding straps.

Each lead into the radio, antenna control, mike, remote head,and speaker, has an RF choke on that wire.

Works great on 30-6 meter, but will not tune 40m.

If I add 6 feet of wire to the tip of the whip, it will tune 40m NP.

Questions:

1. Anyone have this set up working on 40m?
2. Yaesu's whip for the FC-40 is 8.2 feet long, the CB whip is 9'. Should I trim the whip back to 8.2 feet?
3. Should I ground strap the spare tire itself?
4. Anyway to add 'length' without having a trail 6 feet of wire off the end? A capacitor across the FC-40 terminals? A small coil between the FC-40 and the whip?

Also, 17m will tune, but compared to 30,20,15,12,10 and 6, it seems to have higher (1.7 to 1.9) than the other bands (less than 1.5 all)


Re: FC-40 Mobile/

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Years ago i had a fc1000 in my car (rf wise almost like the fc40)

Problem in almost al setups is rf isolation on the lower bands ¡­.

A short whip becomes more and more impedance on the feedingpoint several hundrets to thousands of ohm

A military whip with its foot was the solution ¡­

3.5 megs with a 2.5m whip ¡­ no problem

Topband with a 5m whip bent over the car in a bow form ¡­

If you find no match on a band (40 you said) why not bring a capacitive hat to the whip

Better as a coil (lower loss)

Dg9bfc

Sigi

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Von: YaesuTuner@... [mailto:YaesuTuner@...] Im Auftrag von kd4hri
Gesendet: Montag, 29. M?rz 2010 19:07
An: YaesuTuner@...
Betreff: [YaesuTuner] FC-40 Mobile/

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Is anyone else using the fc40 mobile to drive a whip?

I have my FC40 mounted onto the spare tire bracket of my RAv4. It is connected to a 1/4 CB whip (only 2-3 inches of wire between.) The ground on the FC-40 is directly connected to the ground of the vehicle and all part of the vehicle and bounded together by grounding straps.

Each lead into the radio, antenna control, mike, remote head,and speaker, has an RF choke on that wire.

Works great on 30-6 meter, but will not tune 40m.

If I add 6 feet of wire to the tip of the whip, it will tune 40m NP.

Questions:

1. Anyone have this set up working on 40m?
2. Yaesu's whip for the FC-40 is 8.2 feet long, the CB whip is 9'. Should I trim the whip back to 8.2 feet?
3. Should I ground strap the spare tire itself?
4. Anyway to add 'length' without having a trail 6 feet of wire off the end? A capacitor across the FC-40 terminals? A small coil between the FC-40 and the whip?

Also, 17m will tune, but compared to 30,20,15,12,10 and 6, it seems to have higher (1.7 to 1.9) than the other bands (less than 1.5 all)


FC-40 Mobile/

kd4hri
 

Is anyone else using the fc40 mobile to drive a whip?

I have my FC40 mounted onto the spare tire bracket of my RAv4. It is connected to a 1/4 CB whip (only 2-3 inches of wire between.) The ground on the FC-40 is directly connected to the ground of the vehicle and all part of the vehicle and bounded together by grounding straps.

Each lead into the radio, antenna control, mike, remote head,and speaker, has an RF choke on that wire.

Works great on 30-6 meter, but will not tune 40m.

If I add 6 feet of wire to the tip of the whip, it will tune 40m NP.

Questions:

1. Anyone have this set up working on 40m?
2. Yaesu's whip for the FC-40 is 8.2 feet long, the CB whip is 9'. Should I trim the whip back to 8.2 feet?
3. Should I ground strap the spare tire itself?
4. Anyway to add 'length' without having a trail 6 feet of wire off the end? A capacitor across the FC-40 terminals? A small coil between the FC-40 and the whip?

Also, 17m will tune, but compared to 30,20,15,12,10 and 6, it seems to have higher (1.7 to 1.9) than the other bands (less than 1.5 all)


About Our List

raimo
 

Hi All.
I sent messages to this list owner.
Looks like Owners mail address is not anymore working.
So I checked moderators and sent below copied message to them:

---------------------------------
Hello William !

I am member of your group.
I found from member list that you are the list owner.
For me list is ok even not so many posts,
I am a bit lazy for reading long stories...
Some time ago there joined members who are intrested
other things than antennas and FC40, posting "nice links".
If this continues, very soon our list will be difficult to read.
Maybe virus-links etc.
I am kindly asking you to remove those messages and members.
So that we can keep this place for our tuning infos.

Summer is soon coming here and I will start again my antenna/FC40
tests. Would be nice to have this group to send my data.

73s de rami, oh6bi