If you have a working FT847
Hi As I no longer have an FT847 if anyone gets the chance, can they measure what they get on the following: MD2003 Pin3 MD2004 Pin 3, base of Q2014, collector of Q2014, Base of Q 2022, Collector Q2022 and Q2031 on UHF TX and RX Just need relative levels into a Spectrum Analyser, a small nano Spectrum Analyser. Next time you take your rig apart, or have nothing else better to do! 73 Andrew G8UUG
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Loose connector?
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I see this connector in the back of the faceplace, it is not connected to anything. What it is function?
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Looking for outer trim piece
If anyone has an FT847 they are parting out, I am looking for the outer trim piece from the unit. Mine arrived cracked during shipping. Thank you for looking Kent K9EZ
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If low at O/P then trace back D2016 switching?
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Hi the SAT button on and off a few times! Check Q2017 is switching as this will kill off the UHF RX and TX LO this should be working as RX is working can you confirm this, tx on a hand held or signal generator D2017 the anodes of the diodes are switched separately for TX and RX, confirm the LO is on cathode of D2016, then follow the LO through the circuit path to the TX LO O/P via Q2039 OK TP 4 to TP 7, is the supply to the VCO, pulled on by a PNP transistor in Q2015 to 18. OK we have VHF 1 + 2 and UHF 1 + 2, and 4 VCO, I suspect two are for TX and the other two for the RX VCO as they will probably be different frequencies! Or slit frequency operation (not sure here) or when TX and RX are used simultaneously in SAT mode? 73 Andrew Sent: 22 July 2022 19:34 To: Andrew Subject: Re: If low at O/P then trace back D2016 switching? Went digging into the PLL board. I'm getting 3.66V at TP2003 in TX D2019 is switching as expected, one line high for HF, one for VHF and one for UHF. All three lines tested fine.On the underside of the PLL board, I am getting 7.9V on TP2006, but not TP2007 which leads to Q2018. On UHF I'm getting 7.9V on pin 2 of Q2017 but nothing on pin 2 of Q2018 check if there is something there on RX On VHF I'm getting 7.9V on pin 2 of Q2016 but nothing on pin 2 of Q2015 check if there is something there on RX
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FW: Cable as shown is what you need
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From: Max Donoghue [mailto:ve3tmt@...] Sent: 06 August 2022 21:41 To: Andrew Lenton Subject: Re: Cable as shown is what you need Some of the satellites have SSB uplink on UHF. Whether I use them or not at least I know the radio is capable. Thank you for all the help along the way Andrew, I gained lots of experience in troubleshooting from your instructions. Max On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 4:20 PM Andrew Lenton <a@...> wrote: Hi Good news I guess you mean bands, I would trust the meter on the radio, and the current going into the radio! Well done 73 Andrew 2020 here of to eat a sandwich From: Max Donoghue [mailto:ve3tmt@...] Sent: 06 August 2022 20:27 To: Andrew Lenton Subject: Re: Cable as shown is what you need I've returned the tx according to the service manual. RF meter on radio now showing 50w. I think the external meter is not accurate on UHF. Anyway I am very happy with the results. Now I can work all the birds! On Sat, Aug 6, 2022, 3:17 PM Andrew Lenton <a@...> wrote: Progress, so there were two faults Q4001 was put on by someone else chasing the fault, so we are back to chasing the low RF input So with -30 dBm in and 5 Watts out we have 37dB gain I much prefer that! So we are only looking for 10dB extra gain. To get 50 Watts Check what is coming in on VHF? Should be -20dBm ish? 73 Andrew From: Max Donoghue [mailto:ve3tmt@...] Sent: 06 August 2022 20:03 To: Andrew Lenton Subject: Re: Cable as shown is what you need Okay so I just unsoldered Q4001, cleaned the 4 tabs, resoldered and now I am getting 5W out on the meter with the RF power up all the way On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 2:58 PM Andrew Lenton <a@...> wrote: I thought you were not getting anything UHF TX wise, what is the level on VHF TX? I also thought you were not getting anything out of the UHF VCOs¡¯ or do you have signal now there? -30dBm seems low, but I may be wrong -30dBm to 47dBm (50 Watts), is 77dB gain, on the PA board I am sure with that amount of gain it would hoot! So I feel it should have more coming in hence check what the VHF side is doing level wise? I have used professional DTV amplifiers, that go from -15dBm to 300 Watts (54dBm), but these are precision engineered and weigh over 150lbs !! 70dB gain 73 Andrew From: Max Donoghue [mailto:ve3tmt@...] Sent: 06 August 2022 19:33 To: Andrew Lenton Subject: Re: Cable as shown is what you need Nothing. I think Q4001 is shot. I'm getting -28.9 dBM om the input of Q4001 and -69.9 dBM on the output On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 2:15 PM Andrew Lenton <a@...> wrote: Turn the gain to max see if you get any RF coming out From: Max Donoghue [mailto:ve3tmt@...] Sent: 06 August 2022 19:13 To: Andrew Lenton Subject: Re: Cable as shown is what you need I even tried using the HT to inject a signal on the low power setting. Nothing. On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 1:59 PM Andrew Lenton <a@...> wrote: Interesting, not sure how much level it requires? You could measure the VHF side, see how much TX IF level is, the problem is if it say 50 to 100mW, it will damage the SA without an attenuator 73 Andrew From: Max Donoghue [mailto:ve3tmt@...] Sent: 06 August 2022 15:01 To: Andrew Subject: Re: Cable as shown is what you need Just tried a direct coax connection. No change. HT is picking up the signal from the Tiny SA no problem though. On Sat, Aug 6, 2022, 9:47 AM Andrew <a@...> wrote: Get Outlook for Android
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FAST button not working through mic jack
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Well now that the UHF transmit problem was resolved (thank you again to everyone), my next issue is the FAST function does not work from the microphone or by shorting the appropriate pins on the mic jack. When I press the FAST button on the front panel the icon shows up and tuning increases as expected, so it is working from the panel. I'd like to resolve this as I need to align the SHIFT control and I can't get in to the adjustment menu without the FAST button working on the mic. Max
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MH-36D Microphone puzzle
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Hi folks, I've been using an MH1-B8 microphone for a while (few years), substituting for the rig's original MH-36D which had the disintegrating rubber cord problem. Following up on recent suggestion on the Amsat forum, I ordered and received a replacement cord meant for the MH-36 with the RJ plug. Cut off the RJ and connected the 8-pin round connector, and it seems to work, including the DTMF keys which is why I wanted to do the repair. But, I'm getting reports that my audio has a sort of hum on it, and the volume is rather hot, even with the microphone gain turned all the way down. I double checked the wiring, and I think it's right. The new cable has 6 wires instead of 7, so left the missing "Fast" line unconnected on the 8-pin. The MH-36D has no such button, so no loss there. The 2 grounds (mike and other) are connected together at the 8-pin connector; there's no "shield" on the cable, nor was there one on the original. Is this behavior - the hum and loudness - "expected", or is there something else going on? I see what appears to be a small potentiometer inside the mike, just above the connector. Does that need to be adjusted? What is it for? I haven't touched it as yet, but I'm not the radio's original owner. Thanks, Greg KO6TH
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UHF Range: Partial RX/TX Issue.
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Hi all, I have a rather strange issue with my '847 that I haven't yet figured out the cause for: It doesn't receive or transmit between 420 MHz and 459..9995 MHz. Background info: I'm 3rd owner of my nearly mint condx. My understanding is that it has never been modded or altered in anyway. An examination of some of the circuit boards shows no signs of tampering/repair or component damage. The radio functions perfectly in every sense, transmits and receives in all 5 modes without issues on all amateur bands (except 440 MHz band of course) and receives perfectly fine on HF and VHF general coverage receive, and receives perfectly fine at 460 MHz up to 512 MHz. No other anomalous functionality except that I just discovered during my trouble shooting session that I cannot enable the Alaska 5167 kHz emergency channel in the menu, and that my radio will transmit at 460 Mhz and up. That last bit piques my attention as my understanding is that these radios cannot transmit out of band unless someone has done a mod? When I select any 70 cm frequency and key the radio, the speaker audio cuts off normally and I hear the cooling fan step up in speed from it's normal stand-by cooling speed like it normally does on any other band. "Transmit" appears on the display, but no PO level, nothing, no matter what mode I use. Using a couple of dual band radios confirmed to be working (I hear them perfectly on a pair of Icom R7000's) there is a definite gap between 420 MHz and 459.9995 MHz where nothing is heard or can be sent. But the moment I go to 460 MHz and higher it will receive and transmit. I do not hear a change in the receive static in the affected frequency region as I scroll up in frequency. I've performed the CPU reset with no resulting change in behaviour. Owned the radio for over 5 years but i've never used it on 440 MHz before so I do not know how long this issue has existed. Any ideas before I break out the magnifying glasses and schematics?
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No power on SSB
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I need help as I have no power on SSB (all bands), whereas FM is fine, whenever I transmit on my FT-847. Receiving SSB signal is fine. I've confirmed this problem on a watt meter to a dummy load. Is there a relay to change modulation mode that might be stuck ? 73 de Yono - YD0NXX
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Interesting bug...
Hi folks, With the return of sunspots and randomly good propagation, a short note which you might want to know about. I heard early today that propagation on 10 meters was open from the West Coast to the mid-west, where a number of 10 meter FM repeaters reside. I've worked some of them in the distant past (prior cycle), so went listening. The trusty 847 automatically dialed in the -100khz offset as I poked in the 29.620 FM frequency. Nice. Later this afternoon a fellow ham asked for a radio check for his new 10 meter antenna, so we agreed to meet down in the SSB portion of the band. Punched in the new frequency, tapped SSB, and keyed up. He repeated his call. No contact. Finally I noticed that the 847 was still in repeater mode (even though I was clearly in SSB), therefore transmitting on the wrong frequency. Pushing the RPT button did not work to turn off RPT. I had to switch back into FM, turn off RPT, then switch back to SSB. {sigh} You probably already know this, but it bit me today. Greg KO6TH
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Discriminator Meter Off Center
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Hello, I just got my first FT-847 a week ago. I notice the discriminator always pulls to the left even with no signal. I did adjust the ref osc as it was off freq a bit. Looks to be about 900hz off. I looked through the service manual briefly but didn't see a way to center it. Thanks K9CZ
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Speech Processor
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Is the speech processor just on/off? I don't see anywhere to adjust the compression level. Thanks
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Distorted audio signal on shortwave (rx!)
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Hi all, I have noticed on my "new" FT-847 that the receive audio signal on shortwave is distorted at low audio frequencies. I suspect that the TDA2003H has a defect. At the input pin the signal still looks good, but at the output (also at the speaker jack) it is distorted. Does anyone know the problem? The capacitors in this area look good. Also, the attenuator does not work on shortwave. If you press the button, the audio signal crackles. Bad shopping? 73 de Tom, DJ6TB
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FT847 160 and 80 MHz
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Hi, I have just received a ft847 and I have noticed it does not work and shows error as if it was out of band on 160m and 80m. Please can somebody advise.
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RX-only HF mod?
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Hey all, just found this group. Maybe this is a stupid question but bear with me. Is there a way to get RX-only on HF (or disable TX on the the antenna port)? I don¡¯t use HF much in my 847 and got the idea to maybe hook that antenna port up to the RX-out on my FTDX3000. But I don¡¯t want to fry it by accidentally keying up my FT-847. Is something like this viable? Or should I just buy another receiver like I was planning to do before I got this idea¡ thanks! John KB0GGS
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FT847 RA0070300 SHEET Satellite label
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Hello Group, I am new to this group. I am trying to track down a FT847 RA0070300 SHEET this is the Satelite label. I moved QTH some time ago and it came of in transit. It is only a cosmetic issue but would still like to find one. The Transceiver functions OK I have tried some local dealers in VK but no help. Can somebody please advise where I might find one. Regards Stuart Vk5ade
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TX/RX same band in Satellite mode
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Is it possible to transmit and receive in the same band when in Satellite mode? Thanks, Andy
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CatRadio - Radio Control Software
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#software
CatRadio is the new free software to control rig via PC. It uses the Hamlib libraries and supports many models and functions. Please download here https://www.pianetaradio.it/blog/catradio/ and reports bugs or suggestions.
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Squelch at FM mode works not correct
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Hi FT-847 users, I have the problem with my FT-847 that with FM the squelch closes a little, but when turning the knob further to the right, the squelch opens again. If the squelch knob were a clock face and if there is no signal on the VHF/UHF band: So if the knob starts at 7 o'clock and the squelch closes at 8 o'clock, it opens again at about 11 o'clock and then remains open until the right stop. With SSB everything works fine. I would venture over with meters, oscilloscope etc if I knew where to start. Is there a comparator or Schmitt trigger where I can start my search? Circuit diagram is available. Thanks for reading! 73, Tom, DJ6TB
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FT-847 Transmit Problem
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Hello Group - Trying to troubleshoot a Transmit Problem - trying to set-up for FT8 HF. As I adjust RF Power and MIC Gain while transmitting FT8 the -847 cuts out and Display flashes and I loose CAT connection. Note - this also occurs if I use a microphone. As I increase MIC Gain it cuts out. During FT8 HF - as I adjust MIC Gain I get to a little over 10-12W and the radio cuts out. I¡¯ve tied all combinations of FT8 input levels to no avail. What am I doing wrong?? Or is there a problem with the radio?? Phil KD2XN
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