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Re: Should we cooperate with the DEI team at all or work towards their demise ?
Add David French of the NYT to the mix:? On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 8:58?PM Evan Morris <evan.morris@...> wrote: Arthur- --
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Re: Should we cooperate with the DEI team at all or work towards their demise ?
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Excellent collection. thanks for assembling. (Some but not all are on the Website.) Now you feel my ambivalence. I agree. A group discussion is warranted. I think it best to do it in person¡ behind closed doors, of course. When do you think would be a good and practical time. Evan Bill Akman has no love lost for DEI at Harvard. So, we will have company. ? Evan |
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Re: Letter to Pres. Salovey fw: Vandalism of menorah on the Green
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"Palestinian Liberation"
Ask the cosigners:
UCONN Students for Justice in Palestine
Yalies for Palestine
What is AMPCT
What is WWR
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Harvey Risch via groups.io <Harvey.Risch@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 7:27 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [YFJFF] Letter to Pres. Salovey fw: Vandalism of menorah on the Green ?
What is "Palestinian liberation"?? Liberation from what?
On 12/10/2023 6:57 PM, David Sasso via groups.io wrote:
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Should we cooperate with the DEI team at all or work towards their demise ?
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To the? YFJF&F
We have had a cooperative relationship with Dean Lattimore, and our speaker for January 22-23 Rabbi Fersko will be doing an "educational session " with the DEI "captains" and faculty.
I propose a discussion of our group as to whether we should to the lead and change course.?
The connections between DEI and antisemitism are the subjects of the following:
Are we ready as a group to take the lead in the Ivy League to push for the end of DEI ?
Arthur
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Re: Letter to Pres. Salovey fw: Vandalism of menorah on the Green
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWhat is "Palestinian liberation"?? Liberation from what?
On 12/10/2023 6:57 PM, David Sasso via
groups.io wrote:
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Re: Letter to Pres. Salovey fw: Vandalism of menorah on the Green
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Just a follow up. I had a couple of good follow-up exchanges by email with President Salovey today. He sent me a message at 5 pm letting me know that he has posted the following statement.
The Yalies4Palestine group and the other organizers of the event have tried to distance themselves from the menorah incident on social media. See below.
I've seen very little coverage of this in the news.
From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of David Sasso via groups.io <david.sasso@...>
Sent:?Sunday, December 10, 2023 12:42 PM To:[email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:?[YFJFF] Letter to Pres. Salovey fw: Vandalism of menorah on the Green ?
FYI, I sent this letter to President Salovey, Provost Strobel, and Secretary Goff-Crews moments ago. I have shared with Gayle Slossberg at Federation.
I encourage others to write as well if they wish.
From:?Sasso, David <david.sasso@...>
Sent:?Sunday, December 10, 2023 12:38 PM To:?President Peter Salovey <president@...>; Salovey, Peter <peter.salovey@...> Cc:?Strobel, Scott <scott.strobel@...>; Goff-Crews, Kimberly <kimberly.goff-crews@...> Subject:?Vandalism of menorah on the Green ?
Dear President Salovey,
I hope that you and your loved ones are enjoying a happy Hanukkah, made
all the more difficult, and meaningful, by the events we confront at this time.?
Following up on our conversation in October and your letter after the recent congressional hearings, I want to make sure that you are aware of this incident on the New Haven Green yesterday. It was part of an event that I understand was cosponsored by Yalies4Palestine. (Some will argue that the other participants wanted the flag taken down because it was important to them not to vandalize a menorah. It is clear from listening to the video that they were instead concerned with optics.) I trust that Yale will investigate to determine if any of these were Yale students. Will there be a statement from the University condemning what occurred? Even if these were not Yale-affiliated students, this occurred in Yale¡®s backyard, and the event was sponsored by a Yale?affiliated group (which should no longer receive Yale support or recognition).? I urge you to consider what kind of statement Yale would release if
such an incident were to occur in New Haven, cosponsored by a Yale student group targeting a religious or cultural symbol of any other group and to act without double standard.
Your recent letter stated: ¡°Chants or messages that express hatred, celebrate the killing of civilians, or contain calls for genocide of any group are utterly against our ideals and certainly are not characteristic of our broader community.¡± The march yesterday included chants that, as you well know, do all of those
things. I urge you to demonstrate to the world that Yale will not tolerate such behavior or language, just as you would do, and have done, in many other instances.?
Free speech is a bedrock principle. What is occurring has crossed from
free speech into calls for violence and actual vandalism of a religious symbol. The double standards are glaring. This is not the time to hide behind free speech. We have seen what the world thinks of that sort of equivocation.?
As always, I welcome your response and further conversation.
Sincerely,
David?
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David A. Sasso, MD, MPH
Assistant Clinical Professor
Department of Psychiatry / Child Study Center
Yale School of Medicine
Therapeutic Center for Children and Families, Westport, CT
Phone: (203) 454-2428, ext. 718
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Re: Letter to Pres. Salovey fw: Vandalism of menorah on the Green
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIt¡¯s deplorable. I believe the chant was ¡°Shut it down,¡± which is the name of the event, rather than ¡°Knock it [the menorah] down.¡±?Absolutely sickening either way.?--
Naomi Libby, MD, MHA
Chief Medical Officer
The Children¡¯s Center of Hamden
Assistant Clinical Professor
Yale Child Study Center
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On Dec 10, 2023, at 1:46 PM, Arthur Seltzer via groups.io <arthur.seltzer@...> wrote:
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Re: Letter to Pres. Salovey fw: Vandalism of menorah on the Green
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Excellent letter from David Sasso.?
Listen as the crowd is shouting "Knock it down" referring to the Menorah as they hoisted the Palestinian flag.
The faces can be identified in slow motion.
They need to be prosecuted.?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Evan Morris via groups.io <evan.morris@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 12:44 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [YFJFF] Letter to Pres. Salovey fw: Vandalism of menorah on the Green ?
Excellent letter
Evan
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of David Sasso via groups.io <david.sasso@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 12:42:18 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [YFJFF] Letter to Pres. Salovey fw: Vandalism of menorah on the Green ?
FYI, I sent this letter to President Salovey, Provost Strobel, and Secretary Goff-Crews moments ago. I have shared with Gayle Slossberg at Federation.
I encourage others to write as well if they wish.
From:?Sasso, David <david.sasso@...>
Sent:?Sunday, December 10, 2023 12:38 PM To:?President Peter Salovey <president@...>; Salovey, Peter <peter.salovey@...> Cc:?Strobel, Scott <scott.strobel@...>; Goff-Crews, Kimberly <kimberly.goff-crews@...> Subject:?Vandalism of menorah on the Green ?
Dear President Salovey,
I hope that you and your loved ones are enjoying a happy Hanukkah, made all the more
difficult, and meaningful, by the events we confront at this time.?
Following up on our conversation in October and your letter after the recent congressional hearings, I want to make sure that you are aware of this incident on the New Haven Green yesterday. It was part of an event that I understand was cosponsored by Yalies4Palestine. (Some will argue that the other participants wanted the flag taken down because it was important to them not to vandalize a menorah. It is clear from listening to the video that they were instead concerned with optics.) I trust that Yale will investigate to determine if any of these were Yale students. Will there be a statement from the University condemning what occurred? Even if these were not Yale-affiliated students, this occurred in Yale¡®s backyard, and the event was sponsored by a Yale?affiliated group (which should no longer receive Yale support or recognition).? I urge you to consider what kind of statement Yale would release if such an incident
were to occur in New Haven, cosponsored by a Yale student group targeting a religious or cultural symbol of any other group and to act without double standard.
Your recent letter stated: ¡°Chants or messages that express hatred, celebrate the killing of civilians, or contain calls for genocide of any group are utterly against our ideals and certainly are not characteristic of our broader community.¡± The march yesterday included chants that, as you well know, do all of those things.
I urge you to demonstrate to the world that Yale will not tolerate such behavior or language, just as you would do, and have done, in many other instances.?
Free speech is a bedrock principle. What is occurring has crossed from free speech into
calls for violence and actual vandalism of a religious symbol. The double standards are glaring. This is not the time to hide behind free speech. We have seen what the world thinks of that sort of equivocation.?
As always, I welcome your response and further conversation.
Sincerely,
David?
--
David A. Sasso, MD, MPH
Assistant Clinical Professor
Department of Psychiatry / Child Study Center
Yale School of Medicine
Therapeutic Center for Children and Families, Westport, CT
Phone: (203) 454-2428, ext. 718
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Re: Letter to Pres. Salovey fw: Vandalism of menorah on the Green
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of David Sasso via groups.io <david.sasso@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 12:42:18 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [YFJFF] Letter to Pres. Salovey fw: Vandalism of menorah on the Green ?
FYI, I sent this letter to President Salovey, Provost Strobel, and Secretary Goff-Crews moments ago. I have shared with Gayle Slossberg at Federation.
I encourage others to write as well if they wish.
From:?Sasso, David <david.sasso@...>
Sent:?Sunday, December 10, 2023 12:38 PM To:?President Peter Salovey <president@...>; Salovey, Peter <peter.salovey@...> Cc:?Strobel, Scott <scott.strobel@...>; Goff-Crews, Kimberly <kimberly.goff-crews@...> Subject:?Vandalism of menorah on the Green ?
Dear President Salovey,
I hope that you and your loved ones are enjoying a happy Hanukkah, made all the more
difficult, and meaningful, by the events we confront at this time.?
Following up on our conversation in October and your letter after the recent congressional hearings, I want to make sure that you are aware of this incident on the New Haven Green yesterday. It was part of an event that I understand was cosponsored by Yalies4Palestine. (Some will argue that the other participants wanted the flag taken down because it was important to them not to vandalize a menorah. It is clear from listening to the video that they were instead concerned with optics.) I trust that Yale will investigate to determine if any of these were Yale students. Will there be a statement from the University condemning what occurred? Even if these were not Yale-affiliated students, this occurred in Yale¡®s backyard, and the event was sponsored by a Yale?affiliated group (which should no longer receive Yale support or recognition).? I urge you to consider what kind of statement Yale would release if such an incident
were to occur in New Haven, cosponsored by a Yale student group targeting a religious or cultural symbol of any other group and to act without double standard.
Your recent letter stated: ¡°Chants or messages that express hatred, celebrate the killing of civilians, or contain calls for genocide of any group are utterly against our ideals and certainly are not characteristic of our broader community.¡± The march yesterday included chants that, as you well know, do all of those things.
I urge you to demonstrate to the world that Yale will not tolerate such behavior or language, just as you would do, and have done, in many other instances.?
Free speech is a bedrock principle. What is occurring has crossed from free speech into
calls for violence and actual vandalism of a religious symbol. The double standards are glaring. This is not the time to hide behind free speech. We have seen what the world thinks of that sort of equivocation.?
As always, I welcome your response and further conversation.
Sincerely,
David?
--
David A. Sasso, MD, MPH
Assistant Clinical Professor
Department of Psychiatry / Child Study Center
Yale School of Medicine
Therapeutic Center for Children and Families, Westport, CT
Phone: (203) 454-2428, ext. 718
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Letter to Pres. Salovey fw: Vandalism of menorah on the Green
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FYI, I sent this letter to President Salovey, Provost Strobel, and Secretary Goff-Crews moments ago. I have shared with Gayle Slossberg at Federation.
I encourage others to write as well if they wish.
From:?Sasso, David <david.sasso@...>
Sent:?Sunday, December 10, 2023 12:38 PM To:?President Peter Salovey <president@...>; Salovey, Peter <peter.salovey@...> Cc:?Strobel, Scott <scott.strobel@...>; Goff-Crews, Kimberly <kimberly.goff-crews@...> Subject:?Vandalism of menorah on the Green ?
Dear President Salovey,
I hope that you and your loved ones are enjoying a happy Hanukkah, made
all the more difficult, and meaningful, by the events we confront at this time.?
Following up on our conversation in October and your letter after the recent congressional hearings, I want to make sure that you are aware of this incident on the New Haven Green yesterday. It was part of an event that I understand was cosponsored by Yalies4Palestine. (Some will argue that the other participants wanted the flag taken down because it was important to them not to vandalize a menorah. It is clear from listening to the video that they were instead concerned with optics.) I trust that Yale will investigate to determine if any of these were Yale students. Will there be a statement from the University condemning what occurred? Even if these were not Yale-affiliated students, this occurred in Yale¡®s backyard, and the event was sponsored by a Yale?affiliated group (which should no longer receive Yale support or recognition).? I urge you to consider what kind of statement Yale would release if
such an incident were to occur in New Haven, cosponsored by a Yale student group targeting a religious or cultural symbol of any other group and to act without double standard.
Your recent letter stated: ¡°Chants or messages that express hatred, celebrate the killing of civilians, or contain calls for genocide of any group are utterly against our ideals and certainly are not characteristic of our broader community.¡± The march yesterday included chants that, as you well know, do all of those
things. I urge you to demonstrate to the world that Yale will not tolerate such behavior or language, just as you would do, and have done, in many other instances.?
Free speech is a bedrock principle. What is occurring has crossed from
free speech into calls for violence and actual vandalism of a religious symbol. The double standards are glaring. This is not the time to hide behind free speech. We have seen what the world thinks of that sort of equivocation.?
As always, I welcome your response and further conversation.
Sincerely,
David?
--
David A. Sasso, MD, MPH
Assistant Clinical Professor
Department of Psychiatry / Child Study Center
Yale School of Medicine
Therapeutic Center for Children and Families, Westport, CT
Phone: (203) 454-2428, ext. 718
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Re: Watch this attack on New Haven Green Menorah yesterday...no news coverage, no arrests I am aware of
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThanks Ed, I was just about to send this out as well.?Here¡¯s a longer video where others plead with him to take it down because ¡°it¡¯s going to look bad.¡±
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On Dec 10, 2023, at 10:36?AM, Edward Kaplan via groups.io <edward.kaplan@...> wrote:
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-------- Original message --------From: "Evan Morris via groups.io" <evan.morris@...>Date: 12/10/23 10:33 AM (GMT-05:00)Subject: [YFJFF] There must be a reckoning throughout academia - please write to Elise Stefanik, or to your rep
I wrote to Elise Stefanik
I asked her (note the 500 word limit of the form) to call the Presidents of Brown and Columbia before her committee. At Columbia, the lawbreaking continues apace. At Brown, the President removed references to Jews from her speech.
At Yale, there has not been a SINGLE campus-wide email that mentions the word ¡°Jew¡±. Salovey avoided using the word on Oct 11. Nancy Brown did not mention Jews on Oct 9, Darin Latimore failed to mention Jews on Dec 9. The universities are doing what the Nazis dreamed of. Erasing us.?
At Brown:?
At Columbia:?
Please consider doing the same. ?It will take 3 minutes.
You may not like Elise Stefanik. But she is the current instrument of a much needed reckoning.
Evan