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Opinion wanted
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI want your opinion. I'm currently copying the book
of Ezra. In chapter 3 it has "instructed in the law of Moses" I changed it to
"instructed in the law God gave Moses". I'm trying to stay within the spirit of
what? Yeshua/Jesus said concerning the jot and tittle. selected , 3:54 AM
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When we finally give Yeshua/Jesus full control then we have taken that first step toward perfection! ?
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First before I say much of consequence, I'll mention that the reading I did in response to this question
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prompted me to discover the following rather interesting blog page: It¡¯s a Yod -- NOT a Jot and Tittle! The conclusion drawn by that short blog entry fascinates and slightly amuses me. It is not a change in effective meaning, but for some may be an increase in the intensity of Jesus' statement. Then a short aside: All translations I've examined follow your phrase with "the man of God" or similar, which would make your text read something like "as instructed in the law God gave Moses the man of God." I think that might look strange to some, but I don't base my answer on this. Now to your question: I think you're asking if I think you should change the text or not. I don't have a generic answer, which is because my answer depends on the intended audience a bit. The one thing I do recommend is that if you change the text, the change is noted as yours somewhere so that no one interprets your changed text as original material. In parallel, Jesus very many times came up with language and stories of His own in order to reach specific audiences; but He never once claimed them to be precise copies of God's communication to us from earlier times when doing so. God said, "Thou shalt not steal." Jesus said, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's" in a specific example, because that rendition communicated well to His audience at the time. I believe you are trying to make sure your audience knows that it was God, not Moses, who formulated the Law, even though we call the books "The Law," where Moses received and communicated the tablets. The books we call "the Law" of course contain much more than those tablets as well, and I don't know if we have a clear certainty on who penned other parts of the Law. So the point that God originated the laws themselves is a valid one, even if the law in question for this passage is not from a tablet. But my next question is, who would miss that and think that Moses himself concocted the laws. So my answer, perhaps ironically, comes down to this: Write what you see for the passage unless you find that your audience requires modification to the words in order to understand the passage as it was initially meant to be understood. If you modify, note this so nobody thinks you just copied original text. On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 04:34:22AM -0600, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
I want your opinion. I'm currently copying the book of Ezra. In chapter 3 it has "instructed in the law of Moses" I changed it to "instructed in the law God gave Moses". I'm trying to stay within the spirit of what Yeshua/Jesus said concerning the jot and tittle. selected , 3:54 AM selected When we finally give Yeshua/Jesus full control then we have taken that first step toward perfection! __________ Family times theatre [1] Ask your smart speaker to play Family times on TuneInBowling fund raiser $godfearer77 References 1. 2. /g/WalkingInVictory/message/8 3. mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re: bible study Opinion wanted 4. mailto:godfearer@...?subject=Private: Re: bible study Opinion wanted 5. /mt/98846548/409874 6. /g/WalkingInVictory/post 7. /g/WalkingInVictory/editsub/409874 8. mailto:[email protected] 9. /g/WalkingInVictory/leave/12285371/409874/623348502/xyzzy -- Doug Lee dgl@... "I am a leader by default, only because nature does not allow a vacuum." Bishop Desmond Tutu |
I see your point. When you read through the gos;els listen strongly to how the pharasees use the phrase "the law of Moses".
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From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2023 12:23 PM Subject: Re: bible study Opinion wanted First before I say much of consequence, I'll mention that the reading I did in response to this question prompted me to discover the following rather interesting blog page: It¡¯s a Yod -- NOT a Jot and Tittle! The conclusion drawn by that short blog entry fascinates and slightly amuses me. It is not a change in effective meaning, but for some may be an increase in the intensity of Jesus' statement. Then a short aside: All translations I've examined follow your phrase with "the man of God" or similar, which would make your text read something like "as instructed in the law God gave Moses the man of God." I think that might look strange to some, but I don't base my answer on this. Now to your question: I think you're asking if I think you should change the text or not. I don't have a generic answer, which is because my answer depends on the intended audience a bit. The one thing I do recommend is that if you change the text, the change is noted as yours somewhere so that no one interprets your changed text as original material. In parallel, Jesus very many times came up with language and stories of His own in order to reach specific audiences; but He never once claimed them to be precise copies of God's communication to us from earlier times when doing so. God said, "Thou shalt not steal." Jesus said, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's" in a specific example, because that rendition communicated well to His audience at the time. I believe you are trying to make sure your audience knows that it was God, not Moses, who formulated the Law, even though we call the books "The Law," where Moses received and communicated the tablets. The books we call "the Law" of course contain much more than those tablets as well, and I don't know if we have a clear certainty on who penned other parts of the Law. So the point that God originated the laws themselves is a valid one, even if the law in question for this passage is not from a tablet. But my next question is, who would miss that and think that Moses himself concocted the laws. So my answer, perhaps ironically, comes down to this: Write what you see for the passage unless you find that your audience requires modification to the words in order to understand the passage as it was initially meant to be understood. If you modify, note this so nobody thinks you just copied original text. On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 04:34:22AM -0600, Robert Doc Wright wrote: I want your opinion. I'm currently copying the book of Ezra. In chapter 3 it has "instructed in the law of Moses" I changed it to "instructed in the law God gave Moses". I'm trying to stay within the spirit of what Yeshua/Jesus said concerning the jot and tittle. selected , 3:54 AM selected When we finally give Yeshua/Jesus full control then we have taken that first step toward perfection! __________ Family times theatre [1] Ask your smart speaker to play Family times on TuneInBowling fund raiser $godfearer77 References 1. 2. /g/WalkingInVictory/message/8 3. mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re: bible study Opinion wanted 4. mailto:godfearer@...?subject=Private: Re: bible study Opinion wanted 5. /mt/98846548/409874 6. /g/WalkingInVictory/post 7. /g/WalkingInVictory/editsub/409874 8. mailto:[email protected] 9. /g/WalkingInVictory/leave/12285371/409874/623348502/xyzzy -- Doug Lee dgl@... "I am a leader by default, only because nature does not allow a vacuum." Bishop Desmond Tutu |
Brother Timothy Clark
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýGood morning. Don't change the text of the Holy Scriptures. Rather, if you want to add something, make a note next to the text itself but don't change the text.?In Christ's Service.? ?Timothy.? ?Federal Aviation Adminastration Safety Team Service Provider.? ? ? ? Sent From My iphone!? On May 12, 2023, at 14:24, Doug Lee <dgl@...> wrote:
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