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Rather than trying to access the cameras or audio via IP, please go to w7dxx.com...can you get this far ?...now scroll down and click on camera links.? Obviously, something not yet set.

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Rather than trying to access the cameras or audio via IP, please go to w7dxx.com...can you get this far ?...now scroll down and click on camera links.? Obviously, something not yet set.

Dan....I repeat what I sent to Larry2 relative to what you say.....? You two are in the same boat.? I'm sure there are plenty more.

"Larry,

I think, like you, more people have dropped out than have signed on.? ?This, a result of the disparity of the DXCC Rules as they relate to Disparate Propagational advantage due to the no-continental limits unwisely accepted by the committee.? Perhaps that one Time big Ad $$$$ influenced that decision.? That revenue source obviously did not pan out for them.?

I'd say ARRL may want to take a re-look at where their revenue streams originate."

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Val

N4RJ

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From:?dan edwards <w5xz@...>
Sent:?Tuesday, November 12, 2019 3:56:24 PM
To:?r?<mickey@...>?<wa4njp@...>; Hugh Valentine <n4rj@...>; K4PI <k4pi@...>;?n4mb@...?<n4mb@...>;?n3xx@...?<n3xx@...>; Greg Carter KX4R <kx4rgreg@...>; John Laney <k4bai@...>;?aa4v@...?<aa4v@...>;?k4ict@...?<k4ict@...>; Paul Newberry <n4pn@...>; John Harden <jhdmd@...>; Ken Byers <k4tea@...>; Rick Boulis <n4hu@...>; Don Binkley <n4zz@...>; Billy Tyler <k4slq@...>; Ken Clarbo <k4zw@...>; Jim K4QPL <k4qpl2@...>; Lynn Lamb <w4nl@...>; Tommy Haskins <w4wxa@...>; Bob White <w4bw@...>; Chaz Cone <w4gkf@...>; Ron Hooper <w4wa@...>; Larry2 <wi5a@...>; Bryce Baumgartner <bryce.baumgartner@...>; Brian Dowd <bdowd48@...>; K4PI <K4PI@...>
Subject:?Re: DXCC

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fwiw, i've dropped out of the league...

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5xz

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On Tuesday, November 12, 2019, 02:49:35 PM CST, K4PI <k4pi@...> wrote:

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Please chime in on the DXCC remote debate on at the ARRL Awards page.? I dont see anyone from the group making any comments.? Need help? HI. 73 Mike K4PI

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This is info from N4MB, Mickey Baker, ARRL SE Director.? Proposal for rule change DXCC to close out minute by minute propagation shopping.? If you have comments contact Mickey.? He is originally from Rome GA.

All,

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One of the things I've been working on as a member of the ARRL Programs and Services Committee is the change to DXCC Rule I-9 that restricts counting DXCC contacts.

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This rule has been passed by the ARRL Programs and Services Committee and has been tasked back to the DX advisory committee.

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This should ELIMINATE almost ALL of the propagation shopping issues. Basically, it limits remote operation to three situations...

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A DXCC applicant may apply for remote dxcc credit where they:?

- use remote stations within 200km of their own station and their own primary station from anywhere.

- use a station wherever they are location

- use a SINGLE SPECIFIED REMOTE STATION any time. THis single station?can only change once per sequential year.

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I wrote this after taking THIS GROUP's requests and floating it to see what I could pass. I started with a hard limit of a 200km circle?- which people objected to who have remote personal stations. Many amateurs are "snowbirds" - "up north" in the summer and "down south" in the winter, and build out stations at vacation homes that they want to use remotely.

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This is to prevent "propagation shopping" which I and a number of other directors want to stop.

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This has been passed out of the Programs and Services Committee and tasked to the DX Advisory Committee. This will be the third time that they have examined this issue, but the first time a rule change has been promoted.

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I've attached the motion to change the rules, which I would like to get in front of the full board in January. If you live outside the Southeastern Division and support this, please contact your DX Advisory Committee member and your Division Director.

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We will get this changed!

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Thanks for your support.

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73,

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Mickey Baker, N4MB

ARRL DIrector, Southeastern Division

Palm Beach Gardens, FL
"Tell me, and I will listen. Show me, and I will understand. Involve me, and I will learn."?Teton Lakota, American Indian Saying.

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 4:26 PM Hugh Valentine <N4RJ@...> wrote:

Dan....I repeat what I sent to Larry2 relative to what you say.....? You two are in the same boat.? I'm sure there are plenty more.

"Larry,

I think, like you, more people have dropped out than have signed on.? ?This, a result of the disparity of the DXCC Rules as they relate to Disparate Propagational advantage due to the no-continental limits unwisely accepted by the committee.? Perhaps that one Time big Ad $$$$ influenced that decision.? That revenue source obviously did not pan out for them.?

I'd say ARRL may want to take a re-look at where their revenue streams originate."

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Val

N4RJ

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From:?dan edwards <w5xz@...>
Sent:?Tuesday, November 12, 2019 3:56:24 PM
To:?r?<mickey@...>?<wa4njp@...>; Hugh Valentine <n4rj@...>; K4PI <k4pi@...>;?n4mb@...?<n4mb@...>;?n3xx@...?<n3xx@...>; Greg Carter KX4R <kx4rgreg@...>; John Laney <k4bai@...>;?aa4v@...?<aa4v@...>;?k4ict@...?<k4ict@...>; Paul Newberry <n4pn@...>; John Harden <jhdmd@...>; Ken Byers <k4tea@...>; Rick Boulis <n4hu@...>; Don Binkley <n4zz@...>; Billy Tyler <k4slq@...>; Ken Clarbo <k4zw@...>; Jim K4QPL <k4qpl2@...>; Lynn Lamb <w4nl@...>; Tommy Haskins <w4wxa@...>; Bob White <w4bw@...>; Chaz Cone <w4gkf@...>; Ron Hooper <w4wa@...>; Larry2 <wi5a@...>; Bryce Baumgartner <bryce.baumgartner@...>; Brian Dowd <bdowd48@...>; K4PI <K4PI@...>
Subject:?Re: DXCC

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fwiw, i've dropped out of the league...

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5xz

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On Tuesday, November 12, 2019, 02:49:35 PM CST, K4PI <k4pi@...> wrote:

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Please chime in on the DXCC remote debate on at the ARRL Awards page.? I dont see anyone from the group making any comments.? Need help? HI. 73 Mike K4PI

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Dan....I repeat what I sent to Larry2 relative to what you say.....? You two are in the same boat.? I'm sure there are plenty more.

"Larry,

I think, like you, more people have dropped out than have signed on.? ?This, a result of the disparity of the DXCC Rules as they relate to Disparate Propagational advantage due to the no-continental limits unwisely accepted by the committee.? Perhaps that one Time big Ad $$$$ influenced that decision.? That revenue source obviously did not pan out for them.?

I'd say ARRL may want to take a re-look at where their revenue streams originate."

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Val

N4RJ

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Sent from??for Windows 10

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From:?dan edwards <w5xz@...>
Sent:?Tuesday, November 12, 2019 3:56:24 PM
To:?r?<mickey@...>?<wa4njp@...>; Hugh Valentine <n4rj@...>; K4PI <k4pi@...>;?n4mb@...?<n4mb@...>;?n3xx@...?<n3xx@...>; Greg Carter KX4R <kx4rgreg@...>; John Laney <k4bai@...>;?aa4v@...?<aa4v@...>;?k4ict@...?<k4ict@...>; Paul Newberry <n4pn@...>; John Harden <jhdmd@...>; Ken Byers <k4tea@...>; Rick Boulis <n4hu@...>; Don Binkley <n4zz@...>; Billy Tyler <k4slq@...>; Ken Clarbo <k4zw@...>; Jim K4QPL <k4qpl2@...>; Lynn Lamb <w4nl@...>; Tommy Haskins <w4wxa@...>; Bob White <w4bw@...>; Chaz Cone <w4gkf@...>; Ron Hooper <w4wa@...>; Larry2 <wi5a@...>; Bryce Baumgartner <bryce.baumgartner@...>; Brian Dowd <bdowd48@...>; K4PI <K4PI@...>
Subject:?Re: DXCC

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fwiw, i've dropped out of the league...

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5xz

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On Tuesday, November 12, 2019, 02:49:35 PM CST, K4PI <k4pi@...> wrote:

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Please chime in on the DXCC remote debate on at the ARRL Awards page.? I dont see anyone from the group making any comments.? Need help? HI. 73 Mike K4PI

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