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Disk Jet Diffusion Pump

 

Being a hardcore experimentalist I thought I'd test to see if this forum can still fog a mirror. (That's a metaphorical double entendre, I suppose.) Anyhow, a few months ago I designed and built a new kind of diffusion pump and thought I'd test the waters here with this link: http://www.fusor.net/board/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9577&p=64482#p64482

The whole idea went downhill very quickly over there as far as responses go. It's hard to find much of an audience when your discussing ways to obtain higher levels of deep nothingness. My wife has suggested that I start looking into prices for a lobotomy. She thinks I'd be better company after the procedure.





 

Ok that is interesting.? I got lost in the back and forth.? Them peoples dont seem very friendly.? Did the pump work ??? ?

I have not posted much about my vacuum system ( 68" dia x 68" long chamber with twin 8" diff pumps ) because it was just working great for the last year or two.? I even put in a 500 gallon recirculation water supply for the diff pumps that is saving something on the planet.

Well you just knew it was too good to last.? I pumped down Sunday to start a coating operation on a spun cast epoxy mirror ( for a Dr bud in SC ) and come Monday when it was time to get serious and really pump down the system tore itself apart.? The inter-cooler sprang a leak while under high ( hot ) vacuum. ?

I had to make a field repair to an old CVC 8" throat inter-cooler years ago and my armature TIG welding choose this week to fail.? I will spare the gory details ..... suffice to say a gallon of coolant water dumped into an 8" dia diff pump in high hot vacuum was a pretty spectacular site.? By the time I could get it all locked down the leak had filled the chamber up with fog ?and slogged my Welch pumps.? Yes the fun instantly fouled both the diff pumps and both the Welch pumps and the hot cathode sensor and the telescope mirror and all 36 tungsten emitters in the chamber. ?

It has been so much fun wiping and cleaning my chamber.? I just cant remember the last time I spent that much quality time tearing the sytem all apart.? But I found the problem and now just have to TIG it back to pressure tight. ??

It seems DOW 704 oil really dont explode when you have a catastrophic failure.? It makes a mess but nothing actually got hurt.? I suppose it was worth the $500 it cost after all.? Sad they don't sell it anymore. ?

Anybody got a recommendation on replacement diff pump oil ???? I see Leskers has a version 702 and 704.? Anybody used it ???

Drew in sunny Florida?

On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:16 PM, geoani@... [VacuumX] <VacuumX@...> wrote:
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Being a hardcore experimentalist I thought I'd test to see if this forum can still fog a mirror. (That's a metaphorical double entendre, I suppose.) Anyhow, a few months ago I designed and built a new kind of diffusion pump and thought I'd test the waters here with this link:

The whole idea went downhill very quickly over there as far as responses go. It's hard to find much of an audience when your discussing ways to obtain higher levels of deep nothingness. My wife has suggested that I start looking into prices for a lobotomy. She thinks I'd be better company after the procedure.






 

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Sadly I've had to sell of all my vacuum equipment as I had nowhere to store it and being in share accommodation and all (studying medicine now), I was left with no other options....

I was wondering the same, did the pump work? I can imagine they would be a bit closed to the idea, no-one seems to like it when someone rocks the boat.

Andrew wow what a job! I don't envy you at all. On the plus side at least you now know its clean, again lol.

Thomas
(PS if anyone wants the moderator's job I could use some help in keeping the group active)

On 15/10/2014 11:36 AM, Andrew Aurigema eosraptor@... [VacuumX] wrote:

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Ok that is interesting.? I got lost in the back and forth.? Them peoples dont seem very friendly.? Did the pump work ??? ?

I have not posted much about my vacuum system ( 68" dia x 68" long chamber with twin 8" diff pumps ) because it was just working great for the last year or two.? I even put in a 500 gallon recirculation water supply for the diff pumps that is saving something on the planet.

Well you just knew it was too good to last.? I pumped down Sunday to start a coating operation on a spun cast epoxy mirror ( for a Dr bud in SC ) and come Monday when it was time to get serious and really pump down the system tore itself apart.? The inter-cooler sprang a leak while under high ( hot ) vacuum. ?

I had to make a field repair to an old CVC 8" throat inter-cooler years ago and my armature TIG welding choose this week to fail.? I will spare the gory details ..... suffice to say a gallon of coolant water dumped into an 8" dia diff pump in high hot vacuum was a pretty spectacular site.? By the time I could get it all locked down the leak had filled the chamber up with fog ?and slogged my Welch pumps.? Yes the fun instantly fouled both the diff pumps and both the Welch pumps and the hot cathode sensor and the telescope mirror and all 36 tungsten emitters in the chamber. ?

It has been so much fun wiping and cleaning my chamber.? I just cant remember the last time I spent that much quality time tearing the sytem all apart.? But I found the problem and now just have to TIG it back to pressure tight. ??

It seems DOW 704 oil really dont explode when you have a catastrophic failure.? It makes a mess but nothing actually got hurt.? I suppose it was worth the $500 it cost after all.? Sad they don't sell it anymore. ?

Anybody got a recommendation on replacement diff pump oil ???? I see Leskers has a version 702 and 704.? Anybody used it ???

Drew in sunny Florida?

On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:16 PM, geoani@... [VacuumX] <VacuumX@...> wrote:
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Being a hardcore experimentalist I thought I'd test to see if this forum can still fog a mirror. (That's a metaphorical double entendre, I suppose.) Anyhow, a few months ago I designed and built a new kind of diffusion pump and thought I'd test the waters here with this link:

The whole idea went downhill very quickly over there as far as responses go. It's hard to find much of an audience when your discussing ways to obtain higher levels of deep nothingness. My wife has suggested that I start looking into prices for a lobotomy. She thinks I'd be better company after the procedure.







 

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Now THAT'S what I call a worth-while, MANLY post! Thanks for sharing. :-)

Brian Whatcott?????? Altus?? OK

On 10/14/2014 8:36 PM, Andrew Aurigema eosraptor@... [VacuumX] wrote:

Ok that is interesting.? I got lost in the back and forth.? Them peoples dont seem very friendly.? Did the pump work ??? ?

I have not posted much about my vacuum system ( 68" dia x 68" long chamber with twin 8" diff pumps ) because it was just working great for the last year or two.? I even put in a 500 gallon recirculation water supply for the diff pumps that is saving something on the planet.

Well you just knew it was too good to last.? I pumped down Sunday to start a coating operation on a spun cast epoxy mirror ( for a Dr bud in SC ) and come Monday when it was time to get serious and really pump down the system tore itself apart.? The inter-cooler sprang a leak while under high ( hot ) vacuum. ?

I had to make a field repair to an old CVC 8" throat inter-cooler years ago and my armature TIG welding choose this week to fail.? I will spare the gory details ..... suffice to say a gallon of coolant water dumped into an 8" dia diff pump in high hot vacuum was a pretty spectacular site.? By the time I could get it all locked down the leak had filled the chamber up with fog ?and slogged my Welch pumps.? Yes the fun instantly fouled both the diff pumps and both the Welch pumps and the hot cathode sensor and the telescope mirror and all 36 tungsten emitters in the chamber. ?

It has been so much fun wiping and cleaning my chamber.? I just cant remember the last time I spent that much quality time tearing the sytem all apart.? But I found the problem and now just have to TIG it back to pressure tight. ??

It seems DOW 704 oil really dont explode when you have a catastrophic failure.? It makes a mess but nothing actually got hurt.? I suppose it was worth the $500 it cost after all.? Sad they don't sell it anymore. ?

Anybody got a recommendation on replacement diff pump oil ???? I see Leskers has a version 702 and 704.? Anybody used it ???

Drew in sunny Florida?

On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:16 PM, geoani@... [VacuumX] <VacuumX@...> wrote:
?

Being a hardcore experimentalist I thought I'd test to see if this forum can still fog a mirror. (That's a metaphorical double entendre, I suppose.) Anyhow, a few months ago I designed and built a new kind of diffusion pump and thought I'd test the waters here with this link:

The whole idea went downhill very quickly over there as far as responses go. It's hard to find much of an audience when your discussing ways to obtain higher levels of deep nothingness. My wife has suggested that I start looking into prices for a lobotomy. She thinks I'd be better company after the procedure.







 

Here was the system as it looks assembled.? The CVC water cooled trap/baffle coolant loop is what leaked.? I really need to replace that thing but have not seen an 8" dia throat trap out on EBAY in years. ?

I have an entire 4" throat diff pump, water cooled trap and gate valve for sale. ?$400.? Motivated to sell as the wife will see the bill for all the new vac oil by month's end.? She never saw the coolness of vacuum equipment.

Drew in sunny Florida ?

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On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, brian whatcott betwys1@... [VacuumX] <VacuumX@...> wrote:
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Now THAT'S what I call a worth-while, MANLY post! Thanks for sharing. :-)

Brian Whatcott?????? Altus?? OK

On 10/14/2014 8:36 PM, Andrew Aurigema eosraptor@... [VacuumX] wrote:
Ok that is interesting.? I got lost in the back and forth.? Them peoples dont seem very friendly.? Did the pump work ??? ?

I have not posted much about my vacuum system ( 68" dia x 68" long chamber with twin 8" diff pumps ) because it was just working great for the last year or two.? I even put in a 500 gallon recirculation water supply for the diff pumps that is saving something on the planet.

Well you just knew it was too good to last.? I pumped down Sunday to start a coating operation on a spun cast epoxy mirror ( for a Dr bud in SC ) and come Monday when it was time to get serious and really pump down the system tore itself apart.? The inter-cooler sprang a leak while under high ( hot ) vacuum. ?

I had to make a field repair to an old CVC 8" throat inter-cooler years ago and my armature TIG welding choose this week to fail.? I will spare the gory details ..... suffice to say a gallon of coolant water dumped into an 8" dia diff pump in high hot vacuum was a pretty spectacular site.? By the time I could get it all locked down the leak had filled the chamber up with fog ?and slogged my Welch pumps.? Yes the fun instantly fouled both the diff pumps and both the Welch pumps and the hot cathode sensor and the telescope mirror and all 36 tungsten emitters in the chamber. ?

It has been so much fun wiping and cleaning my chamber.? I just cant remember the last time I spent that much quality time tearing the sytem all apart.? But I found the problem and now just have to TIG it back to pressure tight. ??

It seems DOW 704 oil really dont explode when you have a catastrophic failure.? It makes a mess but nothing actually got hurt.? I suppose it was worth the $500 it cost after all.? Sad they don't sell it anymore. ?

Anybody got a recommendation on replacement diff pump oil ???? I see Leskers has a version 702 and 704.? Anybody used it ???

Drew in sunny Florida?

On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:16 PM, geoani@... [VacuumX] <VacuumX@...> wrote:
?

Being a hardcore experimentalist I thought I'd test to see if this forum can still fog a mirror. (That's a metaphorical double entendre, I suppose.) Anyhow, a few months ago I designed and built a new kind of diffusion pump and thought I'd test the waters here with this link:

The whole idea went downhill very quickly over there as far as responses go. It's hard to find much of an audience when your discussing ways to obtain higher levels of deep nothingness. My wife has suggested that I start looking into prices for a lobotomy. She thinks I'd be better company after the procedure.








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