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Re: weird Sharpie residue


 

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Could still be micro-fractures.
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One thing I do is use a 3-5mw green laser pointer.? I hit the mirror at an angle and if I can see a green dot on the surface of the mirror then I know that I am not done polishing.
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Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
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From: VacuumX@... [mailto:VacuumX@...]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 4:19 PM
To: VacuumX@...
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] weird Sharpie residue

1. You cannot see the marks at all with the naked eye. AT ALL.

2. ?I believe the mirror is fully polished.?

3. The only way I can tell something weird is going on is after we've washed the mirror thoroughly with Alconox and/or powdered calcium carbonate and rinsed it thoroughly and let the water flow off: What happens then is that the line and marks that I drew re-appear as if a magical water-mark arose where the marks used to be. I didn't take any photos at the time. I should say, "water-mark descended" rather than "arose": the sheet of water was very uniform except that it was a little thinner where the marks used to be. You could read the markings very clearly as if there was a scar on the surface of the water. Not at all visible in any way on the dry glass.?
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Guy Brandenburg, Washington, DC?
http://gfbrandenburg.wordpress.com/
http://home.earthlink.net/~gfbranden/GFB_Home_Page.html
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From: "'Christopher Erickson' christopher.k.erickson@... [VacuumX]"
To: VacuumX@...
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 3:43 PM
Subject: RE: [VacuumX] weird Sharpie residue

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Agreed.? If the marker isn't coming off then the mirror polishing isn't finished.
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Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
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From: VacuumX@... [mailto:VacuumX@...]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 7:55 AM
To: VacuumX@...
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] weird Sharpie residue

The only time Sharpie marker dont come off a mirror I am working on is when the mirror is not fully polished out.? Even a mirror that looks polished can still have quite a rough surface that traps dye or lets it get under the top layer of glass.? I have put on squiggle lines that took hours of polishing to fully remove because the dye got under the top layer of glass.? Till that top layer is polished off the marks remained. ?

I would be inclined to polish the surface and remove the marks. ?

Can you take a pic or two of the inside of your chamber so we can see what "classic vac" looks like ???

Drew in sunny Florida
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Guy Brandenburg gfbrandenburg@... [VacuumX] <VacuumX@...> wrote:
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That's also weird. In the past I found that "permanent" magic ?markers or sharpies came off of glass -- Pyrex or float -- in soap and water or even with handling.not this time!!

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On Feb 23, 2015, at 12:15 PM, brian whatcott betwys1@... [VacuumX] <VacuumX@...> wrote:

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A person who uses a permanent marker on a surface, no matter how precious, ought to expect it to be permanent. Sadly.

Brian Whatcott

On 2/21/2015 10:43 AM, Guy Brandenburg gfbrandenburg@... [VacuumX] wrote:
Interesting residue from a Sharpie or Magic Marker on a mirror that I cannot remove before aluminizing it!
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Anybody have comments or ideas?
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Guy Brandenburg, Washington, DC




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