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Audio Hat Hangup
V12 Boards
Ver 50.2 SW?
All is working no freeze up or glitches since installing ferrite sleeves on ribbon cable.
However if I install the audio hat it never finishes boot up before program stops with partial screen.
Tried new extender, new audio hat (2) same issue each time.
I reflowed the leads on Teensy female headers (may need to do this again)
I can install Audio hat with a pair of long pin female headers to eliminate and doubt that extender is issue no help.
Could it be SW? I will pull main board and go over all the solder pads to see if that helps.
Other wise all good.
I had 64 beta working at one point but after reloading a second time it hangs up. (I cleared the memory each time)?
Tim W4YN?
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开云体育First things first.? If you load the I2C scanner software, does the audio hat respond at address 0x0A on WIRE like it should…? ?If not, concentrate your resoldering efforts around Pins 18 and 19… ? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner – Operator Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: ? Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. ? email:? bill@... ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tim via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2025 8:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Audio Hat Hangup ? V12 Boards Ver 50.2 SW? All is working no freeze up or glitches since installing ferrite sleeves on ribbon cable. However if I install the audio hat it never finishes boot up before program stops with partial screen. Tried new extender, new audio hat (2) same issue each time. I reflowed the leads on Teensy female headers (may need to do this again) I can install Audio hat with a pair of long pin female headers to eliminate and doubt that extender is issue no help. Could it be SW? I will pull main board and go over all the solder pads to see if that helps. Other wise all good. I had 64 beta working at one point but after reloading a second time it hangs up. (I cleared the memory each time)? Tim W4YN? ? |
Dr. Bill
Which I2C scanner SW do you use?
Unrelated to audio hat, sometimes when I boot up it does not see LPF or BPF address?
All the others are seen. after some fiddling it will work fine.?
I check the Ribbon cable and headers on the filter control board and lpf board and the all look good.?
Not sure if restarting program clears it up or tweaking hardware solves it.?
If the other I2C address are found I am thinking it is not a Teensy issue, does that sound correct?
Tim?
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开云体育Use this test software: ? ? See which devices the processor finds from this list: ? ? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner – Operator Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: ? Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. ? email:? bill@... ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tim via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 8:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Audio Hat Hangup ? Dr. Bill Which I2C scanner SW do you use? Unrelated to audio hat, sometimes when I boot up it does not see LPF or BPF address? All the others are seen. after some fiddling it will work fine.? I check the Ribbon cable and headers on the filter control board and lpf board and the all look good.? Not sure if restarting program clears it up or tweaking hardware solves it.? If the other I2C address are found I am thinking it is not a Teensy issue, does that sound correct? Tim? ? |
开云体育And…. If it works only sometimes, there is a bad connection somewhere.? Probably either a solder connection of one of the IDC cables. ? Pictures are worth 1,000 words! ? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner – Operator Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: ? Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. ? email:? bill@... ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tim via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 8:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Audio Hat Hangup ? Dr. Bill Which I2C scanner SW do you use? Unrelated to audio hat, sometimes when I boot up it does not see LPF or BPF address? All the others are seen. after some fiddling it will work fine.? I check the Ribbon cable and headers on the filter control board and lpf board and the all look good.? Not sure if restarting program clears it up or tweaking hardware solves it.? If the other I2C address are found I am thinking it is not a Teensy issue, does that sound correct? Tim? ? |
开云体育Very strange Tim… but we will help you figure it out! ? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner – Operator Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: ? Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. ? email:? bill@... ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tim via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 1:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Audio Hat Hangup ? I2C scanner found all the addresses However program(ver50.2)will not run with audio hat installed :( Tim |
开云体育On thing Tim… Have you been resetting the flash memory every time you load a program? ? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner – Operator Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: ? Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. ? email:? bill@... ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tim via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 1:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Audio Hat Hangup ? I2C scanner found all the addresses However program(ver50.2)will not run with audio hat installed :( Tim |
开云体育Ok… Good to know.? I’m winding coils too! ? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner – Operator Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: ? Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. ? email:? bill@... ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tim via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 2:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Audio Hat Hangup ? Yes I hold button until it goes into slow flash mode as per Teensy site suggestion. Tnx for help, I am busy winding coils so it is not an issue at moment. RX is fine without audio hat installed. Tried 2 different hats. Tim? |
Been thru that once Jerry need to reflow again, it is definitely one of the Teensy pins.
Update, I was able to get 64 beta to load and recognize all the I2C addresses including Audio Hat, and auto rx calibrate works, freq cal hangs up though and no decoding of SSB or CW.
50.2 will just not run with audio hat installed :(?
Tim W4YN
Back to abusing my arthritic hands Hi!
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开云体育
I actually had to ditch the extension board.? After several intermittent software issues I discovered that by pushing down on the teensy and restarting it would work normally for a while only to happen again. This was after resoldering and checking all pins
on both the extension board and the Teensy.??I came to the conclusion that there were at least a couple of socket pins not making consistent good contact.? Because of my frustration I finally removed the extension board and cut a notch in the one heat sink
that was interfering with the audio hat.? Since doing that I have not had another instance of software intermittently working. I guess putting the regulators on the other side of the board and not modifying the heat sink would have accomplished the same thing.??
Rick, KN4AIE? ?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of jerry-KF6VB via groups.io <jerry@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 4:06 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Cc: K9HZ <bill@...> Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Audio Hat Hangup ?
I would carefully check all the soldering at the Teensy and the audio
hat and the offset board - I found a few Teensy pins that I hadn't actually soldered. ??????????????????? - Jerry |
Didn't you say that you've already trial a second audio hat? Jack, W8TEE
On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 04:34:14 PM EST, Tim via groups.io <w4yn@...> wrote:
Been thru that once Jerry need to reflow again, it is definitely one of the Teensy pins.
Update, I was able to get 64 beta to load and recognize all the I2C addresses including Audio Hat, and auto rx calibrate works, freq cal hangs up though and no decoding of SSB or CW.
50.2 will just not run with audio hat installed :(?
Tim W4YN
Back to abusing my arthritic hands Hi!
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-- Jack, W8TEE |
Rick?
Same here?
I did eliminate the extender and just used long pin female headers to get hat above heat sink.
I have to play with reseating Teensy to get I2C to work properly.
Once tweaked it seems fine.
I wonder if the Chinese headers are issue, I see the pins are not as precise as US made, could be female sockets also.
I was tool and die maker and worked a while making connector molds and pin stamping dies, they had extremely tight tolerances like .0001" or less.
Tim? |
开云体育Cables could be an issue too… ? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner – Operator Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: ? Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. ? email:? bill@... ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tim via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 3:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Audio Hat Hangup ? Been thru that once Jerry need to reflow again, it is definitely one of the Teensy pins. Update, I was able to get 64 beta to load and recognize all the I2C addresses including Audio Hat, and auto rx calibrate works, freq cal hangs up though and no decoding of SSB or CW. 50.2 will just not run with audio hat installed :(? Tim W4YN Back to abusing my arthritic hands Hi! ? |
开云体育Yeah I’ve had trouble with those cheap Chinese sockets too.? Buy the good ones… they are just a few cents more. ? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner – Operator Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: ? Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. ? email:? bill@... ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tim via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 3:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Audio Hat Hangup ? Rick? Same here? I did eliminate the extender and just used long pin female headers to get hat above heat sink. I have to play with reseating Teensy to get I2C to work properly. Once tweaked it seems fine. I wonder if the Chinese headers are issue, I see the pins are not as precise as US made, could be female sockets also. I was tool and die maker and worked a while making connector molds and pin stamping dies, they had extremely tight tolerances like .0001" or less. Tim? |
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 03:34 PM, Tim wrote:
it is definitely one of the Teensy pins. ---------------------------------
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I am going to flat out lie and say I've never missed a pin or soldered it incorrectly.?
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I have half a thought that hopefully someone can either finish or explain why it wouldn't help.? I'm trying to think of the easiest way to check the connection of the pins.? I've been lucky so far but I'm sure I'll run into self created issues eventually.? Almost every pin on the teensy is PWM capable.? Does it make sense at all to write a sketch with a tone() function for every PWM pin (0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 18, 19, 22, 23, 24, 25, 28, 29, 33, 36, 37, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 51, 54) then stick the teensy on a breadboard and connect a speaker it to each pin one at a time until you find the one(s) that stays quiet or something similar with an led?? I'm mostly figuring this out as I go so I may be way off base here. |
No cables attached except for Ribbon cables and rf coax. Nothing attached to Audio Hat.
I think I will start on new Main board (don't believe I could get hearers off even with my vacuum sucker) and use machine pin headers.
I used those on critical projects that needed IC's replaced often.
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Tim W4YN
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