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Re: Updated 3rd Edition book NOT shipping from Amazon yet

 

I just returned mine by saying they sent the wrong book. I then told them about the new version with the new Chapter 20. They issued me a refund and I have to return it to Staples.

Jack, W8TEE

On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 09:55:00 PM EDT, J P Watters via groups.io <jpwatters@...> wrote:


Jack,

Ahhhhgggg,

Chapter 19 Enhancements, and NO Chapter 20!!!!!!
But it does have a shiny cover showing ¡°Third Edition Includes V11 & V12¡±

And without Chapter 20 would mean that who knows what they actually printed.

..jpw J P Watters
KC9KKO
Morris, IL USA


On Apr 9, 2025, at 8:43?PM, jjpurdum via groups.io <jjpurdum@...> wrote:

All:

I ordered two copies for Al and I to review, and they sent me the old book, too. I will be sending mine back, too. When I order again, I'm going to tell them to make sure it has the new cover and Chapter 20, since the previous edition didn't have a Chapter 20. I have no idea what we wrong as the are advertising the new version.

Jack, W8TEE


On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 04:53:37 PM EDT, J P Watters via??<jpwatters@...> wrote:


Jack,

I ordered mine on April 4th, delivered on April 6th

And it would appear to be the updated version.

<PastedGraphic-1.tiff>

..jpw J P Watters
KC9KKO
Morris, IL USA


On Apr 9, 2025, at 11:50?AM, jjpurdum via groups.io <jjpurdum@...> wrote:

Duane:

There should be no stock as it is a "Print on Demand" book. Tell then to check for Chapter 20, because earlier versions don't have a chapter 20.

Jack, W8TEE

On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 09:57:26 AM EDT, Duane B via groups.io <dbrantley@...> wrote:


Hi Jack.
?
I ordered it on April 5th.? It was delivered on the 8th.? I plan to return it.? Was going to give them a couple of days to deplete what stock they have.
?
Duane - K5CA

--?
Jack, W8TEE


--?
Jack, W8TEE<PastedGraphic-1.tiff>

--
Jack, W8TEE


Re: Updated 3rd Edition book NOT shipping from Amazon yet

 

That's what was on the old cover. Look at the new cover. It's not even the same T41...it's a black 3D printed case!



On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 09:55:00 PM EDT, J P Watters via groups.io <jpwatters@...> wrote:


Jack,

Ahhhhgggg,

Chapter 19 Enhancements, and NO Chapter 20!!!!!!
But it does have a shiny cover showing ¡°Third Edition Includes V11 & V12¡±

And without Chapter 20 would mean that who knows what they actually printed.

..jpw J P Watters
KC9KKO
Morris, IL USA


On Apr 9, 2025, at 8:43?PM, jjpurdum via groups.io <jjpurdum@...> wrote:

All:

I ordered two copies for Al and I to review, and they sent me the old book, too. I will be sending mine back, too. When I order again, I'm going to tell them to make sure it has the new cover and Chapter 20, since the previous edition didn't have a Chapter 20. I have no idea what we wrong as the are advertising the new version.

Jack, W8TEE


On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 04:53:37 PM EDT, J P Watters via??<jpwatters@...> wrote:


Jack,

I ordered mine on April 4th, delivered on April 6th

And it would appear to be the updated version.

<PastedGraphic-1.tiff>

..jpw J P Watters
KC9KKO
Morris, IL USA


On Apr 9, 2025, at 11:50?AM, jjpurdum via groups.io <jjpurdum@...> wrote:

Duane:

There should be no stock as it is a "Print on Demand" book. Tell then to check for Chapter 20, because earlier versions don't have a chapter 20.

Jack, W8TEE

On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 09:57:26 AM EDT, Duane B via groups.io <dbrantley@...> wrote:


Hi Jack.
?
I ordered it on April 5th.? It was delivered on the 8th.? I plan to return it.? Was going to give them a couple of days to deplete what stock they have.
?
Duane - K5CA

--?
Jack, W8TEE


--?
Jack, W8TEE<PastedGraphic-1.tiff>

--
Jack, W8TEE


Re: Updated 3rd Edition book NOT shipping from Amazon yet

 

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Jack,

Ahhhhgggg,

Chapter 19 Enhancements, and NO Chapter 20!!!!!!
But it does have a shiny cover showing ¡°Third Edition Includes V11 & V12¡±

And without Chapter 20 would mean that who knows what they actually printed.

..jpw J P Watters
KC9KKO
Morris, IL USA


On Apr 9, 2025, at 8:43?PM, jjpurdum via groups.io <jjpurdum@...> wrote:

All:

I ordered two copies for Al and I to review, and they sent me the old book, too. I will be sending mine back, too. When I order again, I'm going to tell them to make sure it has the new cover and Chapter 20, since the previous edition didn't have a Chapter 20. I have no idea what we wrong as the are advertising the new version.

Jack, W8TEE


On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 04:53:37 PM EDT, J P Watters via??<jpwatters@...> wrote:


Jack,

I ordered mine on April 4th, delivered on April 6th

And it would appear to be the updated version.

<PastedGraphic-1.tiff>

..jpw J P Watters
KC9KKO
Morris, IL USA


On Apr 9, 2025, at 11:50?AM, jjpurdum via groups.io <jjpurdum@...> wrote:

Duane:

There should be no stock as it is a "Print on Demand" book. Tell then to check for Chapter 20, because earlier versions don't have a chapter 20.

Jack, W8TEE

On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 09:57:26 AM EDT, Duane B via groups.io <dbrantley@...> wrote:


Hi Jack.
?
I ordered it on April 5th.? It was delivered on the 8th.? I plan to return it.? Was going to give them a couple of days to deplete what stock they have.
?
Duane - K5CA

--?
Jack, W8TEE


--?
Jack, W8TEE<PastedGraphic-1.tiff>


Re: Updated 3rd Edition book NOT shipping from Amazon yet

 

Get your money back or have them send the correct one. Make sure to tell them they sent you the previous version, not the new one that went Live on the 4th.

Jack, W8TEE

On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 04:53:37 PM EDT, J P Watters via groups.io <jpwatters@...> wrote:


Jack,

I ordered mine on April 4th, delivered on April 6th

And it would appear to be the updated version.

PastedGraphic-1.tiff

..jpw J P Watters
KC9KKO
Morris, IL USA


On Apr 9, 2025, at 11:50?AM, jjpurdum via groups.io <jjpurdum@...> wrote:

Duane:

There should be no stock as it is a "Print on Demand" book. Tell then to check for Chapter 20, because earlier versions don't have a chapter 20.

Jack, W8TEE

On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 09:57:26 AM EDT, Duane B via groups.io <dbrantley@...> wrote:


Hi Jack.
?
I ordered it on April 5th.? It was delivered on the 8th.? I plan to return it.? Was going to give them a couple of days to deplete what stock they have.
?
Duane - K5CA

--
Jack, W8TEE


--
Jack, W8TEE


Re: Updated 3rd Edition book NOT shipping from Amazon yet

 

All:

I ordered two copies for Al and I to review, and they sent me the old book, too. I will be sending mine back, too. When I order again, I'm going to tell them to make sure it has the new cover and Chapter 20, since the previous edition didn't have a Chapter 20. I have no idea what we wrong as the are advertising the new version.

Jack, W8TEE


On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 04:53:37 PM EDT, J P Watters via groups.io <jpwatters@...> wrote:


Jack,

I ordered mine on April 4th, delivered on April 6th

And it would appear to be the updated version.

PastedGraphic-1.tiff

..jpw J P Watters
KC9KKO
Morris, IL USA


On Apr 9, 2025, at 11:50?AM, jjpurdum via groups.io <jjpurdum@...> wrote:

Duane:

There should be no stock as it is a "Print on Demand" book. Tell then to check for Chapter 20, because earlier versions don't have a chapter 20.

Jack, W8TEE

On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 09:57:26 AM EDT, Duane B via groups.io <dbrantley@...> wrote:


Hi Jack.
?
I ordered it on April 5th.? It was delivered on the 8th.? I plan to return it.? Was going to give them a couple of days to deplete what stock they have.
?
Duane - K5CA

--
Jack, W8TEE


--
Jack, W8TEE


Re: SWR Calibration

 

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The code I wrote to measure SWR from the forward and reflected powers is here:
https://github.com/DRWJSCHMIDT/T41/tree/main/T41_V012_Files/T41_V012_Software/T41_V12_Software_For_Board_Testing/K9HZ_LPF_tester

I think Al used it as the starting point for the code that's in ver 66-9, though he took it a lot further and added the calibration methods.

Adding support for the diodes is a long way down the priority list for me, so don't hold your breath. Maybe someone out there with a V12 radio would like to take this on and share their work with the rest of us?



-------- Original Message --------
On 4/9/25 6:05 PM, K9HZ wrote:

Dave¡­ the code for the analog SWR metering is not there.? The code for the I2C stuff is¡­ BUT with this said, its not a hard thing to do.? A12 is Forward power and A13 is Reflected at the teensy¡­ so then you just need to calibrate the voltages in after scanning with the teensy.? Remember they are LOG Voltages for power... so Forward Power = A*log (forward voltage) and Reflected Power = B*Log(reflected voltage). ?Then SWR is gamma = Reflected Power/ Forward power¡­. And SWR = (1+sqrt(gamma))/(1-sqrt(gamma)).

?

?

I think Oliver did program this up once upon a time¡­ would probably take him 10 seconds to do it.

?

?

Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

?

Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO.

Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO.

?

email:? bill@...

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of D Solt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2025 3:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] SWR Calibration

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I am running the latest SW ver66.9, downloaded today.? I am use the analog SWR circuits.? I have good FWD-V (~1.5V) and REV-V (0.005) into the dummy load and REV-V varies as load resistance varies.? In the Cal screen, Power and SWR measure "inf" and "nan".? Nothing changes them.? And, where should the pots, RV19 and RV27, be set?? Thanks for the help.

dave, n3ds


Re: SWR Calibration

 

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Dave¡­ the code for the analog SWR metering is not there.? The code for the I2C stuff is¡­ BUT with this said, its not a hard thing to do.? A12 is Forward power and A13 is Reflected at the teensy¡­ so then you just need to calibrate the voltages in after scanning with the teensy.? Remember they are LOG Voltages for power... so Forward Power = A*log (forward voltage) and Reflected Power = B*Log(reflected voltage). ?Then SWR is gamma = Reflected Power/ Forward power¡­. And SWR = (1+sqrt(gamma))/(1-sqrt(gamma)).

?

?

I think Oliver did program this up once upon a time¡­ would probably take him 10 seconds to do it.

?

?

Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

?

Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO.

Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO.

?

email:? bill@...

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of D Solt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2025 3:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] SWR Calibration

?

I am running the latest SW ver66.9, downloaded today.? I am use the analog SWR circuits.? I have good FWD-V (~1.5V) and REV-V (0.005) into the dummy load and REV-V varies as load resistance varies.? In the Cal screen, Power and SWR measure "inf" and "nan".? Nothing changes them.? And, where should the pots, RV19 and RV27, be set?? Thanks for the help.

dave, n3ds


Re: Transmitting noise

 

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Cool Dave!? Congrats!

?

?

Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

?

Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO.

Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO.

?

email:? bill@...

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of D Solt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2025 2:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Transmitting noise

?

Made my first contact!!!!!!!!!!!!!? Got good audio report, so the noise in the background was not noticed.

On to calibrate the SWR

dave, n3ds


Re: Updated 3rd Edition book NOT shipping from Amazon yet

 

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Jack,

I ordered mine on April 4th, delivered on April 6th

And it would appear to be the updated version.

PastedGraphic-1.tiff

..jpw J P Watters
KC9KKO
Morris, IL USA


On Apr 9, 2025, at 11:50?AM, jjpurdum via groups.io <jjpurdum@...> wrote:

Duane:

There should be no stock as it is a "Print on Demand" book. Tell then to check for Chapter 20, because earlier versions don't have a chapter 20.

Jack, W8TEE

On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 09:57:26 AM EDT, Duane B via groups.io <dbrantley@...> wrote:


Hi Jack.
?
I ordered it on April 5th.? It was delivered on the 8th.? I plan to return it.? Was going to give them a couple of days to deplete what stock they have.
?
Duane - K5CA

--
Jack, W8TEE


SWR Calibration

 

I am running the latest SW ver66.9, downloaded today.? I am use the analog SWR circuits.? I have good FWD-V (~1.5V) and REV-V (0.005) into the dummy load and REV-V varies as load resistance varies.? In the Cal screen, Power and SWR measure "inf" and "nan".? Nothing changes them.? And, where should the pots, RV19 and RV27, be set?? Thanks for the help.
dave, n3ds


Re: Transmitting noise

 

Made my first contact!!!!!!!!!!!!!? Got good audio report, so the noise in the background was not noticed.
On to calibrate the SWR
dave, n3ds


Re: Freq Calibration

 

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Thank you, Oliver, your fixes all worked very well.? Those that you fixed have been ¡°Bugging¡± ha, ha, me for a while.

Rick Price KN4AIE

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Oliver KI3P via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2025 6:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Freq Calibration

?

Missed your original message Rick, sorry about that.

?

This was a fun one* to track down. It turned out to be due to the logic flag that tracks whether the main menu is still active. It was being left TRUE when exiting the menu windows instead of being reset to FALSE. See this line for the place where this bug intersects with the encoder reading code:

?

I fixed it by just before returning from SetSecondaryMenuIndex() in Menu.cpp:

mainMenuWindowActive = false;

?

Cheers,

Oliver KI3P

?

*sarcasm

On Tuesday, April 8th, 2025 at 8:42 PM, Rick Price via groups.io <rickprice48@...> wrote:

Oliver, as long as your fixing some minor bugs¡­. When the radio is turned on and have not selected any matrix buttons the audio filter tune works correctly. After selecting any matrix button the filter tune adjustment reverses direction and the amount of increment movement for any rotational movement is divided by at least 10. Turn the radio off and right back on filter tune works correctly until a matrix button is selected and the above happens again. Don¡¯t know if you saw my add on earlier about selecting CW and having the fine tune increment cycle with each CW selection and cancellation. Maybe you have already addressed that with the changes you just made. I will download the new bug fixes and let you know if it is still doing it.

Rick, KN4AIE

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Oliver KI3P via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2025 8:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Freq Calibration

?

I've fixed this one too. Added a call to ResetTuning() at line 33 of MenuProc.cpp -- i.e., reset the tuning right before calling CalibrateFrequency(). See the changed line on GitHub here:

?

?

?

?

?

On Tuesday, April 8th, 2025 at 6:47 PM, Oliver KI3P via groups.io <oliver@...> wrote:

No reason for it, it's just another bug that needs to be squashed.

?

On Tuesday, April 8th, 2025 at 11:51 AM, K9HZ <bill@...> wrote:

¡°The math under the hood in the frequency calibration routine doesn't account for the fine tune frequency offset.¡±

?

I didn¡¯t catch that either¡­ any reason for that. Seems a bit quirky¡­

?

?

Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

?

Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO.

Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO.

?

email:? bill@...

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Oliver KI3P via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2025 5:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Freq Calibration

?

Are you saying that if you tune to 10 MHz and select SAM demodulation, you measure a frequency offset of 190 Hz?

?

A gotcha with the frequency calibration is that it matters how you tune to 10 MHz -- don't touch the fine tune knob! The math under the hood in the frequency calibration routine doesn't account for the fine tune frequency offset. Instead, tune by pressing the Dir Freq (Direct Frequency) button and entering 10 on the button pad. Does that help?

?

?

?

On Monday, April 7th, 2025 at 8:35 PM, epif18 via groups.io <epif18@...> wrote:

Hey 'yall,

I'm running a V12, 66.9, TCXO.? I've run freq cal and I'm off by 190 hz.? I've hard coded the cal value into si5351.init as well as 0.0.? The 190 hz error shows against my freq standard (10MHz) as well as my Siglent sig gen.? Zero beat is at 10,000,190. And when I'm listening to some SSB net on 20M, the best audio comes in at +190 hz (assuming they run the net on a whole freq).? Freq cal shows an error of 0.15Hz throughout the 20 min.? I adjust the cal factor to a freq error of 0.15Hz before I start cal.? I've run cal multiple time with the same results.? Everything is temp stabilized.

190 Hz isn't that bad but I'd like it to be close to zero.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

Mark

KU3O

?

?

?

?


Re: Updated 3rd Edition book NOT shipping from Amazon yet

 

Duane:

There should be no stock as it is a "Print on Demand" book. Tell then to check for Chapter 20, because earlier versions don't have a chapter 20.

Jack, W8TEE

On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 09:57:26 AM EDT, Duane B via groups.io <dbrantley@...> wrote:


Hi Jack.
?
I ordered it on April 5th.? It was delivered on the 8th.? I plan to return it.? Was going to give them a couple of days to deplete what stock they have.
?
Duane - K5CA

--
Jack, W8TEE


Re: T41 V9 troubleshooting guide

 

Thanks for all the replies.? I have downloaded and printed the Assembly manual that Greg linked (thanks!). ?? I'll let you know how progress is going with the resurrection of this T41.? I will be building my own with K9HZ's board set.
?
Duane - K5CA


Re: Updated 3rd Edition book NOT shipping from Amazon yet

 

Hi Jack.
?
I ordered it on April 5th.? It was delivered on the 8th.? I plan to return it.? Was going to give them a couple of days to deplete what stock they have.
?
Duane - K5CA


Re: Updated 3rd Edition book NOT shipping from Amazon yet

 

Return it and have them send the latest version. They are not shipping out of inventory because there is none. Our book is a "print on demand" book that has no inventory. When did you order the book?

Jack, W8TEE

On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 09:25:59 AM EDT, Duane B via groups.io <dbrantley@...> wrote:


Just wanted to let everyone know that Amazon is NOT shipping the latest 3rd Edition of the book, at I didn't receive one.? Maybe they are trying to get rid on the 'old' Third Edition copies first?
?
Duane - K5CA

--
Jack, W8TEE


Updated 3rd Edition book NOT shipping from Amazon yet

 

Just wanted to let everyone know that Amazon is NOT shipping the latest 3rd Edition of the book, at I didn't receive one.? Maybe they are trying to get rid on the 'old' Third Edition copies first?
?
Duane - K5CA


Re: Freq Calibration

 

Missed your original message Rick, sorry about that.

This was a fun one* to track down. It turned out to be due to the logic flag that tracks whether the main menu is still active. It was being left TRUE when exiting the menu windows instead of being reset to FALSE. See this line for the place where this bug intersects with the encoder reading code:


I fixed it by just before returning from SetSecondaryMenuIndex() in Menu.cpp:
mainMenuWindowActive = false;

Cheers,
Oliver KI3P

*sarcasm
On Tuesday, April 8th, 2025 at 8:42 PM, Rick Price via groups.io <rickprice48@...> wrote:

Oliver, as long as your fixing some minor bugs¡­. When the radio is turned on and have not selected any matrix buttons the audio filter tune works correctly. After selecting any matrix button the filter tune adjustment reverses direction and the amount of increment movement for any rotational movement is divided by at least 10. Turn the radio off and right back on filter tune works correctly until a matrix button is selected and the above happens again. Don¡¯t know if you saw my add on earlier about selecting CW and having the fine tune increment cycle with each CW selection and cancellation. Maybe you have already addressed that with the changes you just made. I will download the new bug fixes and let you know if it is still doing it.

Rick, KN4AIE

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Oliver KI3P via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2025 8:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Freq Calibration

?

I've fixed this one too. Added a call to ResetTuning() at line 33 of MenuProc.cpp -- i.e., reset the tuning right before calling CalibrateFrequency(). See the changed line on GitHub here:

?

?

?

?

?

On Tuesday, April 8th, 2025 at 6:47 PM, Oliver KI3P via groups.io <oliver@...> wrote:

No reason for it, it's just another bug that needs to be squashed.

?

On Tuesday, April 8th, 2025 at 11:51 AM, K9HZ <bill@...> wrote:

¡°The math under the hood in the frequency calibration routine doesn't account for the fine tune frequency offset.¡±

?

I didn¡¯t catch that either¡­ any reason for that. Seems a bit quirky¡­

?

?

Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

?

Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO.

Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO.

?

email:? bill@...

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Oliver KI3P via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2025 5:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Freq Calibration

?

Are you saying that if you tune to 10 MHz and select SAM demodulation, you measure a frequency offset of 190 Hz?

?

A gotcha with the frequency calibration is that it matters how you tune to 10 MHz -- don't touch the fine tune knob! The math under the hood in the frequency calibration routine doesn't account for the fine tune frequency offset. Instead, tune by pressing the Dir Freq (Direct Frequency) button and entering 10 on the button pad. Does that help?

?

?

?

On Monday, April 7th, 2025 at 8:35 PM, epif18 via groups.io <epif18@...> wrote:

Hey 'yall,

I'm running a V12, 66.9, TCXO.? I've run freq cal and I'm off by 190 hz.? I've hard coded the cal value into si5351.init as well as 0.0.? The 190 hz error shows against my freq standard (10MHz) as well as my Siglent sig gen.? Zero beat is at 10,000,190. And when I'm listening to some SSB net on 20M, the best audio comes in at +190 hz (assuming they run the net on a whole freq).? Freq cal shows an error of 0.15Hz throughout the 20 min.? I adjust the cal factor to a freq error of 0.15Hz before I start cal.? I've run cal multiple time with the same results.? Everything is temp stabilized.

190 Hz isn't that bad but I'd like it to be close to zero.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

Mark

KU3O

?

?

?



Re: Menu oddities

 

Done. Thanks Oliver.


Re: Freq Calibration

 

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Oliver, as long as your fixing some minor bugs¡­. When the radio is turned on and have not selected any matrix buttons the audio filter tune works correctly.? After selecting any matrix button the filter tune adjustment reverses direction and the amount of increment movement for any rotational movement is divided by at least 10.? Turn the radio off and right back on filter tune works correctly until a matrix button is selected and the above happens again.? Don¡¯t know if you saw my add on earlier about selecting CW and having the fine tune increment cycle with each CW selection and cancellation.? Maybe you have already addressed that with the changes you just made. I will download the new bug fixes and let you know if it is still doing it.

Rick, KN4AIE

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Oliver KI3P via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2025 8:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Freq Calibration

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I've fixed this one too. Added a call to ResetTuning() at line 33 of MenuProc.cpp -- i.e., reset the tuning right before calling CalibrateFrequency(). See the changed line on GitHub here:

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On Tuesday, April 8th, 2025 at 6:47 PM, Oliver KI3P via groups.io <oliver@...> wrote:

No reason for it, it's just another bug that needs to be squashed.

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On Tuesday, April 8th, 2025 at 11:51 AM, K9HZ <bill@...> wrote:

¡°The math under the hood in the frequency calibration routine doesn't account for the fine tune frequency offset.¡±

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I didn¡¯t catch that either¡­ any reason for that. Seems a bit quirky¡­

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Oliver KI3P via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2025 5:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Freq Calibration

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Are you saying that if you tune to 10 MHz and select SAM demodulation, you measure a frequency offset of 190 Hz?

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A gotcha with the frequency calibration is that it matters how you tune to 10 MHz -- don't touch the fine tune knob! The math under the hood in the frequency calibration routine doesn't account for the fine tune frequency offset. Instead, tune by pressing the Dir Freq (Direct Frequency) button and entering 10 on the button pad. Does that help?

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On Monday, April 7th, 2025 at 8:35 PM, epif18 via groups.io <epif18@...> wrote:

Hey 'yall,

I'm running a V12, 66.9, TCXO.? I've run freq cal and I'm off by 190 hz.? I've hard coded the cal value into si5351.init as well as 0.0.? The 190 hz error shows against my freq standard (10MHz) as well as my Siglent sig gen.? Zero beat is at 10,000,190. And when I'm listening to some SSB net on 20M, the best audio comes in at +190 hz (assuming they run the net on a whole freq).? Freq cal shows an error of 0.15Hz throughout the 20 min.? I adjust the cal factor to a freq error of 0.15Hz before I start cal.? I've run cal multiple time with the same results.? Everything is temp stabilized.

190 Hz isn't that bad but I'd like it to be close to zero.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

Mark

KU3O

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