Re: T41 SDT Version 66 with Calibration
With 1kHz from a signal generator into the audio hat and the radio in TX mode I'm not seeing any IQ output from the hat. The three clocks seem to be present although I'm not sure what frequency they should be.
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Roger G8JWT
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Re: slow starting on T41 kit
Good news, checked again tonight and I didn't get any error messages. The problem happened on my home desktop and my work Windows 7Pro laptop, thankfully I'm not having any problems now. When it did happen I could view other .pdf from other websites. All good now :-) Ron VE8RT On Thu, 27 Feb 2025 13:45:55 +0000 (UTC) "jjpurdum via groups.io" <jjpurdum@...> wrote: Whose PDFs and from where? The fact that there don't seem to be others with the problem, perhaps your viewer isn't working correctly. Can you view PDFs from other sources?
Jack, W8TEE
On Thursday, February 27, 2025 at 08:39:06 AM EST, Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@...> wrote:
Over the last couple of days I've made attempts to view the .pdf files, both on my Ubuntu desktop and a Win& laptop at work.? The .pdf are not working, instead I have this message: Unable to render code block?At this point I don't know what I can do to view the files.?Ron
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Re: T41 SDT Version 66 with Calibration
I also get no audio out with audio generator to audio hat. I also get no output on cw so maybe I have something else wrong?
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On Feb 27, 2025, at 6:23?PM, bty84827531 via groups.io <roger.trett@...> wrote:
? I did a quick five minute test (it¡¯s late here) with an audio signal generator and likewise got no TX output.?
Roger G8JWT
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Re: T41 SDT Version 66 with Calibration
I did a quick five minute test (it¡¯s late here) with an audio signal generator and likewise got no TX output.?
Roger G8JWT
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Re: T41 SDT Version 66 with Calibration
Hi Al,
Tried your suggestion regarding the tone using Ver066_3. Applied a 1K
tone to the mike jack, keyed the PTT no audio. Audio into the audio
card but nothing coming out on the scope. Tried with a mike with the
same result. Swapped audio cards from my Ver 11 radio same result no
audio. Again loaded the last revision from Oliver that I sent you
last night. Audio works fine both in and out of the audio adapter,
both tone and mike with power out on the wattmeter and dummy load.. CW
also works with that version, just no sidetone but power out. Swapped
adapters again audio in and out ok, so they appear to be working.
Each time I have tried a different software version I have wiped the
teensy to blink. CW keyed provides sidetone and 18 watts out on the
watt meter without calibration with Ver066_3. Switched back to SSB,
nothing from the mike jack or adapter. BTW, no problem with receive
audio. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Rick, KN4AIE
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On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 11:07?AM Rick Price <rickprice48@...> wrote:
Hi Al,
Thanks for clarifying the need for the user supplied audio tone during xmit IQ cal. I will give that a try and report back.
Rick, KN4AIE
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Albert Peter via groups.io <albertfpeter@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2025 10:37 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] T41 SDT Version 66 with Calibration
To Everyone having problems with SSB calibration, especially SSB PA power. I did not make it very clear that a signal must be applied to the Mic jack. I will emphasize this in the final version of the Calibration instructions.
I use 1KHz from a signal generator at about 20mV. Set the Mic gain to zero (0) and the power level to 10W. The objective is to set the Mic gain so you get 10W out for an appropriate input signal. In as much as this varies from rig to rig, we can't exactly specify a signal level.
CW Pa adjustment uses an internally generated signal.
it is important that the Cal steps be done in order. Especially check that Transmit IQ setting is done prior to doing the SSB PA power cal.
I just tried all of the Calibration modes with V66.3, and everything works properly on my system.
If you are still having SSB Power issues, please check to make sure that an audio signal is getting into the system. Check the connections between the Audio hat and the Main board.
Hope this works.
Al
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On 2025-02-27 06:03, Tim via groups.io wrote: I can view and down load PDF's fine. I think some of the V12
Schematics in PDF format are missing from Git Hub though. *** That's probably because they belong to Bill K9HZ. There are boards that he designed that have become de facto standards for V12. I think - his PA, his LPF, his LPF control card, his BPF. Those cards are in a different area of his github. - Jerry, KF6VB
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Re: T41 SDT Version 66 with Calibration
Hi Al,
Thanks for clarifying the need for the user supplied audio tone during xmit IQ cal. I will give that a try and report back.
Rick, KN4AIE
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To Everyone having problems with SSB calibration, especially SSB PA power. I did not make it very clear that a signal must be applied to the Mic jack. I will emphasize this in the final version of the Calibration instructions.
I use 1KHz from a signal generator at about 20mV. Set the Mic gain to zero (0) and the power level to 10W. The objective is to set the Mic gain so you get 10W out for an appropriate input signal. In as much as this varies from rig to rig, we can't exactly
specify a signal level.?
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CW Pa adjustment uses an internally generated signal.
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it is important that the Cal steps be done in order. Especially check that Transmit IQ setting is done prior to doing the SSB PA power cal.
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I just tried all of the Calibration modes with V66.3, and everything works properly on my system.
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If you are still having SSB Power issues, please check to make sure that an audio signal is getting into the system. Check the connections between the Audio hat and the Main board.
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Hope this works.
Al
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Bob,
Attached is a report showing what I did on 6M.? See the chart on pg 2.
dave, n3ds
On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 9:10?AM Robert Luken W3RDL via <now.w3rdl= [email protected]> wrote: I started to wind the coils for the 6m band and am confused about L601,
L603, and L605. The directions say L601 and L605 are 39nH, 5" 24AWG, 5
turns on a 1/8" drill bit. However, L603 is 24nH, 4" 24AWG, 7 turns on a
1/8" drill bit. How can 7 turns require less wire than 5 turns and how
can 7 turns have less inductance than 5 turns?
Bob W3RDL
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Re: T41 SDT Version 66 with Calibration
To Everyone having problems with SSB calibration, especially SSB PA power. I did not make it very clear that a signal must be applied to the Mic jack. I will emphasize this in the final version of the Calibration instructions.
I use 1KHz from a signal generator at about 20mV. Set the Mic gain to zero (0) and the power level to 10W. The objective is to set the Mic gain so you get 10W out for an appropriate input signal. In as much as this varies from rig to rig, we can't exactly specify a signal level.?
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CW Pa adjustment uses an internally generated signal.
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it is important that the Cal steps be done in order. Especially check that Transmit IQ setting is done prior to doing the SSB PA power cal.
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I just tried all of the Calibration modes with V66.3, and everything works properly on my system.
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If you are still having SSB Power issues, please check to make sure that an audio signal is getting into the system. Check the connections between the Audio hat and the Main board.
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Hope this works.
Al
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Re: T41 SDT Version 66.3 with Calibration
Al, 66.3 seems to have improved the button response but hasn't cured TX calibrate issue. All I can see on my spectrum analyser is a very low level carrier around -90dBm.
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Roger G8JWT
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I started to wind the coils for the 6m band and am confused about L601, L603, and L605. The directions say L601 and L605 are 39nH, 5" 24AWG, 5 turns on a 1/8" drill bit. However, L603 is 24nH, 4" 24AWG, 7 turns on a 1/8" drill bit. How can 7 turns require less wire than 5 turns and how can 7 turns have less inductance than 5 turns?
Bob W3RDL
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I can view and down load PDF's fine. I think some of the V12 Schematics in PDF format are missing from Git Hub though.
Tim W4YN
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Re: slow starting on T41 kit
Whose PDFs and from where? The fact that there don't seem to be others with the problem, perhaps your viewer isn't working correctly. Can you view PDFs from other sources?
Jack, W8TEE
On Thursday, February 27, 2025 at 08:39:06 AM EST, Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@...> wrote:
Over the last couple of days I've made attempts to view the .pdf files, both on my Ubuntu desktop and a Win& laptop at work.? The .pdf are not working, instead I have this message: Unable to render code block
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At this point I don't know what I can do to view the files.
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Ron
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Over the last couple of days I've made attempts to view the .pdf files, both on my Ubuntu desktop and a Win& laptop at work.? The .pdf are not working, instead I have this message: Unable to render code block
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At this point I don't know what I can do to view the files.
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Ron
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Re: slow starting on T41 kit
Actually you can mix and match the earlier version boards with the newer versions¡ check the upgrade paths on my GITHUB here: ?
? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner ¨C Operator Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: ? Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. ? email:? bill@... ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of jjpurdum via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2025 8:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] slow starting on T41 kit? The cost from Dr. Schmidt for new 12.6 boards is minimal, but if you have boards with the SMDs already in place, I would finish the kit with what you have. If you're not happy with what results, converting to new boards wouldn't be too bad, as you might be able to cannibalize most of the expensive parts from the existing boards.? Another alternative is to buy the populated board(s) from Justin (). One more thing: I have a 4SQRP system and it works well. That said, I did swap out the PA board for Bill's PA and it is much better than our original design as it doesn't try to fit a square peg (i.e., the IRF510) into a round hole, resulting in a much better power curve that it flat out to 6M. It's worth it. On Tuesday, February 25, 2025 at 11:28:52 PM EST, Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@...> wrote: Great, very good news as I ordered it this morning.
Question regarding my kit I'd left boxed up since Dec 2023.? My boards
have a 2023 date on them, they also have ver 009b.? Looking at the
images of the boards at
I'm not finding ver 009b info.? ver 010 or 011 images of boards have
dates from 2022 or thereabouts, a year before my boards.
? Hopefully my Teensy 4.1 and audio board will work with my boards.
? Also the filter boards has the legacy five bands, I would like to
operate on 60M.? Will it work on 60M as is or should I look at
upgrading some boards?? This is the best time for me to make any
changes.
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> I haven't ordered a display recently, but there was a 3.3-5.0V jumper on the back (J8) that let's me select between the two voltages. Maybe that's no longer an option?
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> > fleet plus the DC's, C-54 (retired now), L-188, and our fire fighting
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> > > I should do right away?? The 5 inch display and other not included in
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Re: T41 SDT Version 66.3 with Calibration
Hi Al, Tried your latest release 066-3 and still cannot get IQ xmit cal to work. RF is a little better but no tone or very low. Thinking I might have a problem I loaded in a release from 01-07-25, attached zip, and using your latest CAL instructions using my FT-991A I am able to calibrate IQ xmit, only tried 7200 but it did work. I also used this version on my Tiny SA ULTRA and got the same numbers. Maybe they are not right Gain 1.007 Phase -0.02 and not even sure this software version is doing it correctly? Rick, KN4AIE On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 5:36?PM Albert Peter via groups.io <albertfpeter@...> wrote:
This version fixes the button response problem in Receive Cal and a couple of other small issues.
Al
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Re: T41 SDT Version 66.3 with Calibration
This version fixes the button response problem in Receive Cal and a couple of other small issues.
Al
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Re: T41 SDT Version 66 with Calibration
Same thing here. Very weak carrier at -80dBm. Nothing more.
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Re: T41 SDT Version 66 with Calibration
Just started the xmit cal, also no tone on PTT, seems like a weak carrier is present.? Previous version 3 or 4 weeks ago, Olivers release, worked ok on xmit using my tiny SA.? Rec cal works fine.??
Rick, KN4AIE
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Thanks Al and Oliver for the new code and instructions.? I have run through the freq cal and receive cal with no problem.? I have a receiver/SA hooked up to the Ant1 out, and am, in the Calibrate
TX screen, but see no signal when I ground PTT_In on J9.? The D4 LED illuminates.? I have all cables hooked up, I think.? Any suggestions?
dave, n3ds
Install the following libraries via the Arduino Library Manager:
- Adafruit MCP23017 Arduino Library, by Adafruit (v2.3.2) (note: install with dependencies)
- Adafruit GFX Library, by Adafruit (v1.11.11) (note: install with dependencies)
- ArduinoJson, by Benoit Blanchon (v7.3.0)
- Chrono, by Thomas O. Fredericks (v1.2.0)
- Timer, by Stefan Staub (v1.2.1)
Several libraries need to be installed manually. The manual process is:
- Go to the provided GitHub link for the library and download the library as a zip by clicking Code -> Download ZIP.
- Import it into the Arduino 2 IDE by clicking Sketch -> Include Library -> Add .ZIP library, and then selecting the file you just downloaded.
The libraries to install using this process are:
- OpenAudio:
- Regressino:
- Arduino Regression:
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The file Config.h?includes several compiler options which add, subtract, or adjust parameters of some features. Please review this file prior to compilation.
Completing a FLASH erase of the Teensy is strongly recommended before uploading this new version. The instructions for performing a FLASH erase of the Teensy are at
?under the bullet "Memory Wipe & LED Blink Restore".
Select the Teensy 4.1 board, and select the following build configuration options:
- Tools->Optimize->Fast with LTO
- Tools->USB Type->Dual Serial
- Tools->CPU Speed->600 MHz
Some people report success running the CPU at 528 MHz. The memory usage after compiling should look like this:
? FLASH: code:272292, data:129336, headers:8988 ? free for files:7715848
? RAM1: variables:178112, code:249800, padding:12344 ? free for local variables:84032
? RAM2: variables:474720 ?free for malloc/new:49568
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Re: T41 SDT Version 66 with Calibration
Thanks Al and Oliver for the new code and instructions.? I have run through the freq cal and receive cal with no problem.? I have a receiver/SA hooked up to the Ant1 out, and am, in the Calibrate TX screen, but see no signal when I ground PTT_In on J9.? The D4 LED illuminates.? I have all cables hooked up, I think.? Any suggestions?
dave, n3ds
Install the following libraries via the Arduino Library Manager:
- Adafruit MCP23017 Arduino Library, by Adafruit (v2.3.2) (note: install with dependencies)
- Adafruit GFX Library, by Adafruit (v1.11.11) (note: install with dependencies)
- ArduinoJson, by Benoit Blanchon (v7.3.0)
- Chrono, by Thomas O. Fredericks (v1.2.0)
- Timer, by Stefan Staub (v1.2.1)
Several libraries need to be installed manually. The manual process is:
- Go to the provided GitHub link for the library and download the library as a zip by clicking Code -> Download ZIP.
- Import it into the Arduino 2 IDE by clicking Sketch -> Include Library -> Add .ZIP library, and then selecting the file you just downloaded.
The libraries to install using this process are:
- OpenAudio:
- Regressino:
- Arduino Regression:
?
The file Config.h includes several compiler options which add, subtract, or adjust parameters of some features. Please review this file prior to compilation.
Completing a FLASH erase of the Teensy is strongly recommended before uploading this new version. The instructions for performing a FLASH erase of the Teensy are at under the bullet "Memory Wipe & LED Blink Restore".
Select the Teensy 4.1 board, and select the following build configuration options:
- Tools->Optimize->Fast with LTO
- Tools->USB Type->Dual Serial
- Tools->CPU Speed->600 MHz
Some people report success running the CPU at 528 MHz. The memory usage after compiling should look like this:
FLASH: code:272292, data:129336, headers:8988 free for files:7715848
RAM1: variables:178112, code:249800, padding:12344 free for local variables:84032
RAM2: variables:474720 free for malloc/new:49568
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