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Re: T41 V66.4 with Code Revisions

 

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Well you would want this to read out in WATTS… not db reduction…

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Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ

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Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

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Owner – Operator

Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

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Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO.

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email:? bill@...

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Albert Peter via groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2025 11:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] T41 V66.4 with Code Revisions

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Roger,

It is working correctly, but the readout is confusing.

Next round I will fix it to read in dB, from 0 to -31dB.

Thanks,

Al

AC8GY


Re: T41 V66.4 with Code Revisions

 

Roger,
It is working correctly, but the readout is confusing.
Next round I will fix it to read in dB, from 0 to -31dB.
Thanks,
Al
AC8GY


Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] Alternative to Pico?

 

No. Standard IDE.
Jack, W8TEE

On Friday, February 28, 2025 at 12:21:16 PM EST, jerry-KF6VB <jerry@...> wrote:


On 2025-02-28 06:29, Jack, W8TEE via groups.io wrote:

> All:
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> I've also experimented with the XIAO processor from Seeed Studio. It's
> about the size of your thumbnail and costs $5:


*** Hardware debug?

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - Jerry, KF6VB






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Jack, W8TEE


Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] Alternative to Pico?

 

On 2025-02-28 06:29, Jack, W8TEE via groups.io wrote:
All:
I've also experimented with the XIAO processor from Seeed Studio. It's
about the size of your thumbnail and costs $5:
*** Hardware debug?

- Jerry, KF6VB


Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] RP Pico 2

 

You didn't read what I said. Each "page" (your term, not mine) is a segment of the display and only that gets updated.

Jack, W8TEE

On Friday, February 28, 2025 at 12:13:08 PM EST, jerry-KF6VB <jerry@...> wrote:


On 2025-02-28 08:46, jjpurdum via groups.io wrote:
> I think the Teensy could work with only 3 function calls to the Pico
> (or whatever??) processor for each page:

*** It should be more granular than that.? If a new S-meter reading
comes in,
the Pico shouldn't have to update the entire display.

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Jack, W8TEE


Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] RP Pico 2

 

On 2025-02-28 08:46, jjpurdum via groups.io wrote:
I think the Teensy could work with only 3 function calls to the Pico
(or whatever??) processor for each page:
*** It should be more granular than that. If a new S-meter reading comes in,
the Pico shouldn't have to update the entire display.

- Jerry,KF6VB


Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] RP Pico 2

 

I think the Teensy could work with only 3 function calls to the Pico (or whatever??) processor for each page:

??? 1. Show -- present the default page being called. Essentially, one page for each new screen. By new, I mean overlays
??????????? on the display surface (e.g., Info Window, waterfall, spectrum, audio plot, S-meter). Some of these are in a tight
??????????? loop controlled by the Teensy (e.g., spectrum).
??? 2. Update -- if new info comes to the Teensy, it can be forwarded to update that page on the screen.
??? 3. Close -- that page is removed from the display, leaving a black background in its place.

If written correctly, the second processor could almost be anything that has a decent clock speed and memory. Keep in mind that the display supports the Block Transfer Engine (BTE) that can speed things up on the display updates.

Jack, W8TEE

On Friday, February 28, 2025 at 11:31:42 AM EST, jerry-KF6VB <jerry@...> wrote:


On 2025-02-28 06:06, Jack, W8TEE via groups.io wrote:
> All:
>
> I just read that the RP Pico 2 is now capable of running at 200MHz

? I actually have a couple pico 2's.? No wifi, though.? It does do SPI,
so it could control our current display - assuming that there's an
RA8875
library available.

? The first step would be to isolate all access to the display.? Make
sure it's
all in one file.? I would use C++ objects to encapsulate it.? Pages and
items.
A "page" would be an entire display - say the normal radio display.? Or
the BIT
test display.? Or the IQ calibrate display.? An "item"
would be one of the things that the page displays.

? Once something like that was in place, it would be straightforward to
substitute
"page" calls with calls to a different file that squirted the info out
to the Pico.
The object of the exercise is to minimize this info.? Only the Pico
would know exactly
where on the screen something goes, for example.

? So if the Teensy can just say "display the main screen" to the Pico,
that's a lot less
work for the Teensy.? There's no way around sending the individual
readings for the spectrum.? But the Pico would maintain the waterfall.

? The Pico supports hardware debug, so development could be relatively
fast.

? A quick websearch revealed that there IS a working RA8875 library for

the Pico.


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Jack, W8TEE


Re: T41 V66.4 with Code Revisions

 

You've solved the problem with TX calibrate!
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One thing I have just noticed is that RF Out Atten seems to work in reverse. The higher the number the greater the output.
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Roger G8JWT


Re: RP Pico 2

 

Its the original pico not the pico 2 that got the speed bump.
Gary
W9TD


Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] RP Pico 2

 

On 2025-02-28 06:06, Jack, W8TEE via groups.io wrote:
All:
I just read that the RP Pico 2 is now capable of running at 200MHz
I actually have a couple pico 2's. No wifi, though. It does do SPI,
so it could control our current display - assuming that there's an RA8875
library available.

The first step would be to isolate all access to the display. Make sure it's
all in one file. I would use C++ objects to encapsulate it. Pages and items.
A "page" would be an entire display - say the normal radio display. Or the BIT
test display. Or the IQ calibrate display. An "item"
would be one of the things that the page displays.

Once something like that was in place, it would be straightforward to substitute
"page" calls with calls to a different file that squirted the info out to the Pico.
The object of the exercise is to minimize this info. Only the Pico would know exactly
where on the screen something goes, for example.

So if the Teensy can just say "display the main screen" to the Pico, that's a lot less
work for the Teensy. There's no way around sending the individual readings for the spectrum. But the Pico would maintain the waterfall.

The Pico supports hardware debug, so development could be relatively fast.

A quick websearch revealed that there IS a working RA8875 library for the Pico.

- Jerry, KF6VB


Re: T41 V66.4 with Code Revisions

 

For us Colonials who aren't too bright, what does "cracked it" mean?

Jack, W8TEE

On Friday, February 28, 2025 at 11:25:09 AM EST, bty84827531 via groups.io <roger.trett@...> wrote:


First impression is that 66.4 has cracked it.
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Thanks
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Roger G8JWT

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Jack, W8TEE


Re: T41 V66.4 with Code Revisions

 

For us Colonials who aren't too bright, what does "cracked it" mean?

Jack, W8TEE

On Friday, February 28, 2025 at 11:25:09 AM EST, bty84827531 via groups.io <roger.trett@...> wrote:


First impression is that 66.4 has cracked it.
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Thanks
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Roger G8JWT

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Jack, W8TEE


Re: T41 V66.4 with Code Revisions

 

First impression is that 66.4 has cracked it.
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Thanks
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Roger G8JWT


Re: slow starting on T41 kit

 

The Main, RF, BPF, encoder boards, offset, etc are all public and part of
the T41.

MY K9HZ 20W PA, 100W PA, LPF, Antenna Tuner, etc are all my design that I
sell for multiple radios in addition to the T41... so the only thing I don't
provide with those are the gerbers.


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ
VP2EHZ

Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC
Staunton, Illinois

Owner – Operator
Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ
Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.
Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com

Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO.
Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO.

email:? bill@...

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
<[email protected]> On Behalf Of jerry-KF6VB
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2025 12:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Tim via groups.io <w4yn@...>
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] slow starting on T41 kit

On 2025-02-27 06:03, Tim via groups.io wrote:
I can view and down load PDF's fine. I think some of the V12
Schematics in PDF format are missing from Git Hub though.
*** That's probably because they belong to Bill K9HZ. There are boards that
he designed that have become de facto standards for V12.
I think - his PA, his LPF, his LPF control card, his BPF.

Those cards are in a different area of his github.



- Jerry, KF6VB


Re: T41 BPF 6m confusion

 

Yeah that's probably wrong. See the instructions. It follows Olivers report.


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ

Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC
Staunton, Illinois

Owner – Operator
Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ
Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.
Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com

Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO.
Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO.

email: bill@...

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Robert Luken W3RDL via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2025 8:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] T41 BPF 6m confusion

I started to wind the coils for the 6m band and am confused about L601, L603, and L605. The directions say L601 and L605 are 39nH, 5" 24AWG, 5 turns on a 1/8" drill bit. However, L603 is 24nH, 4" 24AWG, 7 turns on a 1/8" drill bit. How can 7 turns require less wire than 5 turns and how can 7 turns have less inductance than 5 turns?

Bob W3RDL


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Re: slow starting on T41 kit

 

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Nope… all are there…

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Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ

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Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner – Operator

Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

?

Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO.

Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO.

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email:? bill@...

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tim via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2025 8:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] slow starting on T41 kit

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I can view and down load PDF's fine. I think some of the V12 Schematics in PDF format are missing from Git Hub though.

Tim W4YN


Re: slow starting on T41 kit

 

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What files do you want?? I can send them to you directly via email.

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Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ

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Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner – Operator

Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

?

Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO.

Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO.

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email:? bill@...

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ron VE8RT
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2025 7:39 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] slow starting on T41 kit

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Over the last couple of days I've made attempts to view the .pdf files, both on my Ubuntu desktop and a Win& laptop at work.? The .pdf are not working, instead I have this message: Unable to render code block

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At this point I don't know what I can do to view the files.

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Ron


Re: Show and Tell Friday #1

 

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Oh and yes, the encoder boards are generic (have the ability to select CW or CCW, etc)… useful for any project.

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Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ

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Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner – Operator

Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

?

Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO.

Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO.

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email:? bill@...

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peter McCracken EI3JCB via groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2025 8:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Show and Tell Friday #1

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Just looking at the T41 and K9HZ repos and I can't find the gerbers for either the normal encoder or dual encoder board. I already have the normal encoder board obviously but I am interested in implementing the dual encoders if you are willing to make the gerbers available on your repo ?

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Thanks!

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On Sat, 8 Feb 2025 at 00:54, John P via <j.m.price=[email protected]> wrote:

Bill, how about alink to where this is on GitHub? Not building the T41, but this might be useful for some of my other projects. Also where to get the encoder??

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John P.
WA2FZW


Re: Show and Tell Friday #1

 

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I can make them available when I return from holiday…

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Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner – Operator

Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

?

Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO.

Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO.

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email:? bill@...

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peter McCracken EI3JCB via groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2025 8:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Show and Tell Friday #1

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Just looking at the T41 and K9HZ repos and I can't find the gerbers for either the normal encoder or dual encoder board. I already have the normal encoder board obviously but I am interested in implementing the dual encoders if you are willing to make the gerbers available on your repo ?

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Thanks!

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On Sat, 8 Feb 2025 at 00:54, John P via <j.m.price=[email protected]> wrote:

Bill, how about alink to where this is on GitHub? Not building the T41, but this might be useful for some of my other projects. Also where to get the encoder??

--

John P.
WA2FZW


Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] RP Pico 2

 

Check:


Earlier Picos could be overclocked at 150MHz, but that overclocking often comes with caveats about doing that.

Jack, W8TEE


On Friday, February 28, 2025 at 09:36:15 AM EST, Graham Whaley via groups.io <graham.whaley@...> wrote:


Hi Jack,
do you have any links where we can see that info about the *pi pico 2*?
afaict, news has been released that the original Pi Pico has been bumped from 133MHz to 200MHz. I don’t see anything about the Pi Pico 2 though?

Having said that, the Pi Pico 2 is interesting because…
- it already clocks at 150MHz
- it has FPU and DSP on the arm cores
- is available as a ‘W’ version already (for about ?6.60 in the UK) with 4MB flash and 520KB RAM

I won’t be surprised if a speed bump for Pico2 is announced later, but it has taken some time for that to come for Pico(original), and the Pico2 has not been out that long, so I guess we wait and see.

Graham, 2E0WRW

> On 28 Feb 2025, at 14:06, Jack, W8TEE via groups.io <jjpurdum@...> wrote:
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> All:
>
> I just read that the RP Pico 2 is now capable of running at 200MHz, up from 133MHz earlier. Using CMake, the new speed setting in the compiler is a symbolic constant: PICO_USE_FASTEST_SUPPORTED_CLOCK=1. I don't know if the Arduino IDE recognizes this or not.
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> There's been interest here in using the Pico as a second I/O processor in the T41. The Pico W has 26 I/O pins, 2Mb of Flash, and WiFi/Bluetooth support. No price was given for the Pico 2 nor did it say anything about WiFi/Bluetooth support, but the standard Pico W is about $8-$10. If I see additional info, I'll post it here.
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> Jack, W8TEE
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> Jack, W8TEE

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Jack, W8TEE