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Re: T41 QSE carrier balance

 

On 2023-09-11 08:35, Larry Acklin wrote:
* I_N V12 WE HAVE MANAGED TO REDUCE THE CARRIER AMPLITUDE ON SSB TO
ALMOST -47DB BELOW A SINE SIGNAL AT FULL AMPLITUDE. THIS WAS
ACCOMPLISHED USING 3.3K OHM SERIES RESISTORS IN THE IQ CLK0 AND CLK1
FEEDS TO THE EXCITE MULTIPLEXER_.
This from Al's latest post- maybe worth a try. I am only getting
-20ish carrier suppression below full output amplitude with my V11
QSE.
*** Won't work. In V12, they're not using the D flipflops. They're using
one si5351a clock for each phase.

- Jerry


Re: T41 QSE carrier balance

 

  1. In V12 we have managed to reduce the carrier amplitude on SSB to almost -47dB below a sine signal at full amplitude. This was accomplished using 3.3K ohm series resistors in the IQ CLK0 and CLK1 feeds to the excite multiplexer.

    This from Al¡¯s latest post- maybe worth a try. I am only getting -20ish carrier suppression below full output amplitude with my V11 QSE.?

    Larry- KB3CUF?


Re: T41 QSE carrier balance

 

On 2023-09-10 21:14, K9HZ wrote:
There is more to it. Its not naturally balanced the way it is designed.
*** What are the issues? I was reading about the Tayloe detector this morning.
Apparently, it's not a mixer at all - rather a sort of commutated capacitor filter.
I remember reading about those in an article in 73 magazine back in IIRC the 70's or 80's.
I was fascinated by them - they were so simple - and easy to understand. I think I actually
built one.

At first, I thought about the gains of U1 and U2, but that's probably not it; the amplitudes of the incoming baseband IQ signals are adjustable via software. Such adjustment
nulls the opposite sideband, but has no effect on the carrier.

So that leaves the RF side: U4, the dual D flipflop. Delays in its flipflopperie? I wonder if I could tack a small variable capacitor on each output?

I see that Hans Summer doesn't use a flipflop in the QCX+. Rather, he just uses two outputs
from an si5351a. And he's not trying to transmit with it. He gets the transmit carrier from the third si5351a output.

I know that this has all been discussed in the past, and I apologize for rehashing it. I'm
just trying to get useful output from my T41.

- Jerry, KF6VB


Re: T41 QSE carrier balance

 

There is more to it. Its not naturally balanced the way it is designed.


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ
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Staunton, Illinois

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
<[email protected]> On Behalf Of jerry-KF6VB
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2023 10:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] T41 QSE carrier balance

My QSE does not balance the carrier out well. I wonder if I could improve
it by matching the IQ caps?

- Jerry, KF6VB


T41 QSE carrier balance

 

My QSE does not balance the carrier out well. I wonder if I could improve it by
matching the IQ caps?

- Jerry, KF6VB


Re: More T41 V12 Results

 

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Thanks Al¡­

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With the expanded frequency range of the T41 RF board (QSE+QSD),? I suspect this little PA will be right at home.? So far, I¡¯ve sold over 800 of them and I will need to re-order components for further semi-kits.? I¡¯m also thinking about partnering with a couple of people what want to make them (eg. Finished PAs) for those hams who want to build them but just don¡¯t have the time/ patients/ ability/ etc.? That way we all win.

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The 100W PA module is next.? It has the same basic frequency specs as the 10W PA but is 100W RMS (110W PEP)¡­ and with the attenuator board, you can precisely dial your power from just a few milliwatts to 100W in half-dB steps.? All of it integrates into the T41 directly/ perfectly.

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More on this when I return from vacation next week (some vacation¡­ I¡¯m replacing wood floors.? UG!).

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Staunton, Illinois

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Albert Peter
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2023 10:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] More T41 V12 Results

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Hi Everyone,
I have begun evaluating the 20W RF power amp by K9HZ (Dr. Bill Schmidt) with T41 to address the increased T41 V12 frequency and CW capabilities. Some of what I have found is as follows:
Frequency Response
A Bode plot of the amp stand-alone is shown in the first figure below. The response at both 5W and 15W (RMS) is essentially flat from 1MHz to over 50MHz. This covers the 6M band that the original T41 amp could not reach.

Power Output
Note that Bill (K9Z) rates the amp at 20W PEP, but it is current limited to about 16W (RMS). I tested the amp with two equal amplitude 7MHz tones but1KHz apart in frequency. at 16W RMS. The PEP of that is well over 20W and a scope plot of the LP filtered PA output (through a 50-ohm attenuator), showing the clean out, is contained in the next figure. A rating of 20W PEP represents a real-world SSB condition, since we rarely transmit sine waves on SSB, but rather complex speech waveforms.

I have used the amp quite a bit over the past week, and it performed flawlessly. No overheating at full power for extended periods on the 3.5"x1.5"x1.25" heatsink, with no fan. No thermal run-away. Also, because of the included current limiting, it is not possible to drive the output stage transistors to destruction. Since each final RD16H MOSFET is rated at 16W max dissipation, the amp is conservatively designed.

For anyone concerned about?less tha20W output, note that the difference between 16W and 20W is about 1dB, or 1/6 of an S unit on the receiver - not much at all.
SSB Signal quality?
That is currently under test and will be reported in the near future (waiting on some hardware components).
CW signal quality
As contrasted with SSB signals, CW is always a single tone, which is limited to 16W RMS (for sine waves 16W RMS is equivalent to16W PEP).
The first CW plot is a narrow band spectrum of a 7.2Mz CW tone from the T41 V12 into the K9HZ amp. The plot is centered on 7.2MHZ with a 20KHz span. Within that bandwidth the signal is almost 80dB above the noise, with no other spurious components. The next plot is a wide band spectrum from?3Mz to 30MH?of the 16W 7.2MHz amp output, through the T41 LP filter. The second harmonic is at -51.5dB relative to the 7.2MHz fundamental, well below the -43dB limit.

Efficiency
The amp draws about 620mA with no signal and 2.46A at 16W, indicating a class AB mode with about 45% efficiency at full power.?

For reference, a typical 300WH portable 12V battery would provide well over 15 hours of SSB operation with the T41 and K9HZ amp.

Bottom line
Jack and I fully recommend the K9HZ 20W amp for use with T41, especially for those wishing to have an extended frequency response to 6M, with V12 T41 boards.

For readers of the T41 book, please note that we plan to include this material and more regarding V12 performance in a revision of the book to be added in the near future. These additions are reflective of changes suggested by builders of the T41. Afterall, the T41 was designed to be an experimenter's platform and that is exactly what has happened, both in hardware and software innovations. Thanks to all who contributed.

For those who already have the book, we will post the additional material to this site in the files section at the same time the book revisions are completed and uploaded.

K9HZ 20W power amp Frequency response


K9Hz amp output at 16 W with Two-Tone input



Narrow-band spectrum T41 CW mode at 16W


Wide- band spectrum CW output at 16W


More T41 V12 Results

 

Hi Everyone,
I have begun evaluating the 20W RF power amp by K9HZ (Dr. Bill Schmidt) with T41 to address the increased T41 V12 frequency and CW capabilities. Some of what I have found is as follows:
Frequency Response
A Bode plot of the amp stand-alone is shown in the first figure below. The response at both 5W and 15W (RMS) is essentially flat from 1MHz to over 50MHz. This covers the 6M band that the original T41 amp could not reach.

Power Output
Note that Bill (K9Z) rates the amp at 20W PEP, but it is current limited to about 16W (RMS). I tested the amp with two equal amplitude 7MHz tones but1KHz apart in frequency. at 16W RMS. The PEP of that is well over 20W and a scope plot of the LP filtered PA output (through a 50-ohm attenuator), showing the clean out, is contained in the next figure. A rating of 20W PEP represents a real-world SSB condition, since we rarely transmit sine waves on SSB, but rather complex speech waveforms.

I have used the amp quite a bit over the past week, and it performed flawlessly. No overheating at full power for extended periods on the 3.5"x1.5"x1.25" heatsink, with no fan. No thermal run-away. Also, because of the included current limiting, it is not possible to drive the output stage transistors to destruction. Since each final RD16H MOSFET is rated at 16W max dissipation, the amp is conservatively designed.

For anyone concerned about?less tha20W output, note that the difference between 16W and 20W is about 1dB, or 1/6 of an S unit on the receiver - not much at all.
SSB Signal quality?
That is currently under test and will be reported in the near future (waiting on some hardware components).
CW signal quality
As contrasted with SSB signals, CW is always a single tone, which is limited to 16W RMS (for sine waves 16W RMS is equivalent to16W PEP).
The first CW plot is a narrow band spectrum of a 7.2Mz CW tone from the T41 V12 into the K9HZ amp. The plot is centered on 7.2MHZ with a 20KHz span. Within that bandwidth the signal is almost 80dB above the noise, with no other spurious components. The next plot is a wide band spectrum from?3Mz to 30MH?of the 16W 7.2MHz amp output, through the T41 LP filter. The second harmonic is at -51.5dB relative to the 7.2MHz fundamental, well below the -43dB limit.

Efficiency
The amp draws about 620mA with no signal and 2.46A at 16W, indicating a class AB mode with about 45% efficiency at full power.?

For reference, a typical 300WH portable 12V battery would provide well over 15 hours of SSB operation with the T41 and K9HZ amp.

Bottom line
Jack and I fully recommend the K9HZ 20W amp for use with T41, especially for those wishing to have an extended frequency response to 6M, with V12 T41 boards.

For readers of the T41 book, please note that we plan to include this material and more regarding V12 performance in a revision of the book to be added in the near future. These additions are reflective of changes suggested by builders of the T41. Afterall, the T41 was designed to be an experimenter's platform and that is exactly what has happened, both in hardware and software innovations. Thanks to all who contributed.

For those who already have the book, we will post the additional material to this site in the files section at the same time the book revisions are completed and uploaded.

K9HZ 20W power amp Frequency response


K9Hz amp output at 16 W with Two-Tone input



Narrow-band spectrum T41 CW mode at 16W


Wide- band spectrum CW output at 16W




Re: T41 Transmitting (noise in ssb) solved kinda

 

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Von meinem iPad gesendet

Am 09.09.2023 um 15:40 schrieb Larry Acklin <acklin@...>:

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Yes, all grounds are tied together in the V11 board.?
Audio routing of grounds generally want to stay away from chassis ground (old terminology) to avoid the noise and potential for leakage problems.?
In my experience in stage and live audio, ground loops are pretty common. DI (direct injection) interfaces are used to plug keyboards and acoustic guitars into PAs. They all have a ¡°ground lift¡± switch that isolates the PA mic ground from the instrument ground. Hum is eliminated that way if needed.?

I¡¯m applying the same method here. The schematic for V11 is correct with regards to the mic gnd and connection to the input and output jacks. The etch ties mic gnd to ¡°chassis ¡°. I¡¯m now wired so mic gnd ties to sleeve on the jacks and the Teensy is the only return of mic gnd to common chassis ground.?
This is a star ground topology, specifically called for by the sgdt5000 codec chip used on the audio adapter.?
My result is no interference and decent quality audio in SSB.?
I¡¯m sure that the compressor and EQ bugs can be found and squashed.?


Larry
KB3CUF?

On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 1:36 AM K9HZ <bill@...> wrote:

Huh¡­ so all grounds tied together?? I wudda thought that DC and audio grounds were separate but tied together by a cap.? Anyway that¡¯s what I¡¯ve always done and it seems to work.

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Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ

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Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

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Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Larry Acklin
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2023 10:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] T41 Transmitting (noise in ssb) solved kinda

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Hi- I was able to Mcgyver something together and now I¡¯m getting passable SSB audio. The mic gnd on the audio hat is now the ground return for the line out l,r and mic in. PTT also grounds through the same point. With mic gain at 0 setting, I can hear myself through a SDRPlay attached with about 70 db attenuation.?

There is a decaying echo with the audio- One (one one one) with about a second between echos, 3 or 4 as it fades edit: this was my listening to a speaker on the PC with SDRUino. Earbuds are not echoing It seems that any change in power settings requires the xmit EQ to be set up again- it reverts to -12 on all bands. Is this expected? I have been saving to EEPROM every time I mess with mic gain or output power. /End edit. . Above gain 10, things get wonky.I suspect??the mic comp code and xmit eq for both symptoms. So returning the mic and line grounds to mic gnd on the hat fixed the noise with no mic input but mic gain turned up. -20 db carrier supression -:/

Larry
KB3CUF


Re: T41 Transmitting (noise in ssb) solved kinda

 

Yes, all grounds are tied together in the V11 board.?
Audio routing of grounds generally want to stay away from chassis ground (old terminology) to avoid the noise and potential for leakage problems.?
In my experience in stage and live audio, ground loops are pretty common. DI (direct injection) interfaces are used to plug keyboards and acoustic guitars into PAs. They all have a ¡°ground lift¡± switch that isolates the PA mic ground from the instrument ground. Hum is eliminated that way if needed.?

I¡¯m applying the same method here. The schematic for V11 is correct with regards to the mic gnd and connection to the input and output jacks. The etch ties mic gnd to ¡°chassis ¡°. I¡¯m now wired so mic gnd ties to sleeve on the jacks and the Teensy is the only return of mic gnd to common chassis ground.?
This is a star ground topology, specifically called for by the sgdt5000 codec chip used on the audio adapter.?
My result is no interference and decent quality audio in SSB.?
I¡¯m sure that the compressor and EQ bugs can be found and squashed.?


Larry
KB3CUF?

On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 1:36 AM K9HZ <bill@...> wrote:

Huh¡­ so all grounds tied together?? I wudda thought that DC and audio grounds were separate but tied together by a cap.? Anyway that¡¯s what I¡¯ve always done and it seems to work.

?

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Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

?

Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO.

Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO.

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email:? bill@...

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Larry Acklin
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2023 10:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] T41 Transmitting (noise in ssb) solved kinda

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Hi- I was able to Mcgyver something together and now I¡¯m getting passable SSB audio. The mic gnd on the audio hat is now the ground return for the line out l,r and mic in. PTT also grounds through the same point. With mic gain at 0 setting, I can hear myself through a SDRPlay attached with about 70 db attenuation.?

There is a decaying echo with the audio- One (one one one) with about a second between echos, 3 or 4 as it fades edit: this was my listening to a speaker on the PC with SDRUino. Earbuds are not echoing It seems that any change in power settings requires the xmit EQ to be set up again- it reverts to -12 on all bands. Is this expected? I have been saving to EEPROM every time I mess with mic gain or output power. /End edit. . Above gain 10, things get wonky.I suspect??the mic comp code and xmit eq for both symptoms. So returning the mic and line grounds to mic gnd on the hat fixed the noise with no mic input but mic gain turned up. -20 db carrier supression -:/

Larry
KB3CUF


Re: T41 Transmitting (noise in ssb) solved kinda

 

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Huh¡­ so all grounds tied together?? I wudda thought that DC and audio grounds were separate but tied together by a cap.? Anyway that¡¯s what I¡¯ve always done and it seems to work.

?

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Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

?

Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO.

Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO.

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email:? bill@...

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Larry Acklin
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2023 10:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] T41 Transmitting (noise in ssb) solved kinda

?

Hi- I was able to Mcgyver something together and now I¡¯m getting passable SSB audio. The mic gnd on the audio hat is now the ground return for the line out l,r and mic in. PTT also grounds through the same point. With mic gain at 0 setting, I can hear myself through a SDRPlay attached with about 70 db attenuation.?

There is a decaying echo with the audio- One (one one one) with about a second between echos, 3 or 4 as it fades edit: this was my listening to a speaker on the PC with SDRUino. Earbuds are not echoing It seems that any change in power settings requires the xmit EQ to be set up again- it reverts to -12 on all bands. Is this expected? I have been saving to EEPROM every time I mess with mic gain or output power. /End edit. . Above gain 10, things get wonky.I suspect??the mic comp code and xmit eq for both symptoms. So returning the mic and line grounds to mic gnd on the hat fixed the noise with no mic input but mic gain turned up. -20 db carrier supression -:/

Larry
KB3CUF


Re: T41 Transmitting (noise in ssb) solved kinda

 

Hi- I was able to Mcgyver something together and now I¡¯m getting passable SSB audio. The mic gnd on the audio hat is now the ground return for the line out l,r and mic in. PTT also grounds through the same point. With mic gain at 0 setting, I can hear myself through a SDRPlay attached with about 70 db attenuation.?

There is a decaying echo with the audio- One (one one one) with about a second between echos, 3 or 4 as it fades edit: this was my listening to a speaker on the PC with SDRUino. Earbuds are not echoing It seems that any change in power settings requires the xmit EQ to be set up again- it reverts to -12 on all bands. Is this expected? I have been saving to EEPROM every time I mess with mic gain or output power. /End edit. . Above gain 10, things get wonky.I suspect??the mic comp code and xmit eq for both symptoms. So returning the mic and line grounds to mic gnd on the hat fixed the noise with no mic input but mic gain turned up. -20 db carrier supression -:/

Larry
KB3CUF


Re: IRF510 Spice model

 

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I was gonna say¡­ I usually have to make mine from S-params and data¡­? Looks like the work has been done:

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.model IRF510 VDMOS(Rg=3 Vto=3.8 Rd=200m Rs=54m Rb=250m lambda=.01 Kp=1.3 Cgdmax=.3n Cgdmin=.08n Cgs=.1n Cjo=.17n Is=17p mfg=International_Rectifier Vds=100 Ron=540m Qg=8.3n)

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Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

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Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Alain
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2023 7:52 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] IRF510 Spice model

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73
Alain


Re: Nano Every - Interrupt Handling - Rotary Encoder #arduino #nano #every #rotary

 

Be aware that there are multiple libraries that are called"Rotary". In the SDT.h header file in the T41 project, you'll see:

#include <Rotary.h> ? ? ? ? ? ? // https://github.com/brianlow/Rotary


We always place the download URL as a comment for any library that is "non-standard" to the IDE install. That is the case here. Once installed, you can look at the library's examples to see how to use it, or use the code I posted earlier.

Jack, W8TEE

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Re: IRF510 Spice model

 



73
Alain


IRF510 Spice model

 

I have been trying to find a spice model of the IRF510 for use in an LTSpice simulation.?
I've had no luck with a web search and am wondering if anyone in this group might have
one they can share.

Tnx,
Steve Umans


Re: Nano Every - Interrupt Handling - Rotary Encoder #arduino #nano #every #rotary

 

There is? example code using interrupts when you install the rotary library in the IDE.

-- John G0ORX?

On Fri, 8 Sept 2023, 07:23 CiccioSamui, <Cicciosamui@...> wrote:
exit status 1
no matching function for call to 'Rotary::Rotary(int, int)'

I dont know!........


Re: Nano Every - Interrupt Handling - Rotary Encoder #arduino #nano #every #rotary

 

exit status 1
no matching function for call to 'Rotary::Rotary(int, int)'

I dont know!........


Re: T41 Transmitting (noise in ssb)

 

Hi- I was able to Mcgyver something together and now I¡¯m getting passable SSB audio. The mic gnd on the audio hat is now the ground return for the line out l,r and mic in. PTT also grounds through the same point. With mic gain at 0 setting, I can hear myself through a SDRPlay attached with about 70 db attenuation.?

There is a decaying echo with the audio- One (one one one) with about a second between echos, 3 or 4 as it fades. Above gain 10, things get wonky.I suspect??the mic comp code for both symptoms, and returning the mic and line grounds to mic gnd on the hat fixed the noise with no mic input but gained up.?


Larry
KB3CUF


Re: Nano Every - Interrupt Handling - Rotary Encoder #arduino #nano #every #rotary

 

Hi Ciccio,
Try this:
attachInterrupt(MY_ENCODER_A, handleEncoderChange, CHANGE);
attachInterrupt(MY_ENCODER_B, handleEncoderChange, CHANGE);

73,
Len, KD0RC


Re: T41 Transmitting (noise in ssb)

 

On 2023-09-07 15:48, K9HZ wrote:
The attenuator board has 64 dB of attenuation in 0.5 dB steps. That
will get you from milliwatts to one-hundred watts with my PA modules.
It's I2C so really easy to incorporate.
*** Is it 3.3V compatible? I know that I2C is open-collector, but it
does have those pullup resistors...

- Jerry, KF6VB


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ
PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ
Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC
Staunton, Illinois
Owner ¨C Operator
Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ
Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.
Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com
Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO.
Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO.
email: bill@...
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
<[email protected]> On Behalf Of jerry-KF6VB
Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2023 5:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: K9HZ <bill@...>
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] T41 Transmitting (noise in ssb)
On 2023-09-07 14:56, K9HZ wrote:
That¡¯s why I build the digital attenuator board to use with the PAs¡­
Use the full range of the A/D then¡­ and attenuate the power where it
should be attenuated.
*** Definitely the way to do it. Every last bit of A/D resolution is precious.
For my own use case, I only need 10W. Because my linear will turn
that into 800W. I do need to be able to output 15W or so just for
tuning. I have an MFJ998 remote autotuner at the base of my antenna,
and it takes 15W to urge it to tune. Hitting it with the full 800W
when it's not properly tuned can fry it.
Setting the T41 to a quarter watt for tune should get me a
reasonable output out of the linear.
So - the two power levels I need are 10W and 1/4W.
- Jerry, KF6VB

DR. WILLIAM J. SCHMIDT - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ
PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ
Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC
Staunton, Illinois
Owner ¨C Operator
Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ
Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.
Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com [1]
Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO.
Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO.
email: bill@...
FROM: [email protected]
<[email protected]> ON BEHALF OF Greg KF5N
SENT: Thursday, September 7, 2023 11:00 AM
TO: [email protected]
SUBJECT: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] T41 Transmitting (noise in
ssb)
It will take some calculating to discover the optimum amplitudes out
of the Audio Hat.
Voice peaks need to be accounted for. So you can't drive too hard or
the peaks will get clipped.
The T41 power control is done by varying the I and Q amplitudes. So
that is another consideration.
If you want power varied from 1 watt to 20 watts that soaks up a lot
of the DAC range.
And then you have to add the voice peak problem on top of that.
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73 Greg KF5N
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