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Replacement for electronic terminal at base of Argo Navis stock 4
Greeting, Was wondering if a replacement part for the electronic cord terminal at the base of the Argo Navis stock on my 18" Obsession with Stellar Cat is available anywhere. Thanks! Best, John
Started by John Hawk @ · Most recent @
Altitude MXL TIMING BELTS and PULLEYS 3
Hello All, A few weeks ago, I purchased an 18" F4.2 UC18 with ServoCAT and Argo Navis from an estate sale. The Obsession owner's plate states it was made 09/01/2012. Everything checks out good - normal wear and tear, mirror needs recoating - except for the altitude timing belt and pulleys. The belt is showing its age; the 32 tooth, 0.25" bore pulley - the grub screw was cranked down resulting in a busted hub; the aluminum 15 tooth, 0.1875" bore pulley, the grub screw is rounded-out. The aluminum pulley was lose so I have it off. Both pulleys and belt need replacing. I found the belt at SDP, part number: A6Z16-059-031. But had no luck finding pulleys for a 5/16" wide belt. I'm at a loss as to finding replacements. Anyone else had to solve this problem? Looks like alternative widths might be needed - 1/4" belt pulleys can be found. The telescope was dusty and I did not look over it as much as I should have - I was there to purchase a 10" LX-200 when I saw the UC18 against a wall and made an offer. Mr. Bill Conrad built a replacement power cord for me, and it is fitted to the base board. The pulley grub screws were discovered during pre-powerup checks. Bummer. Thanks for any ideas, Tom
Started by Tom Polk @ · Most recent @
Astronomy and 3D printing... 2
I had a need to 'center' my mirror in my 12" Obsession. I have the cable sling system I sold years ago installed. So it 'hangs' using gravity to maintain center. However since it is sitting on felt pads (Obsession) when I transport it it can actually not be centered as it gets bounced around... this of course can lead to images that are less than ideal - even though you can ultimately 'make it collimate' the light cone is now shifted at an angle. So I got thinking about how to keep the mirror centered. I was going to make up some wood blocks to install - they'd not press on the mirror but keep it centered with a small-ish gap between them and the mirror on either side - maybe 6 thou. Then as that thinking evolved I came up with - 3D printer. I've been wanting to get a 3D printer for years. Just haven't taken the time to get up to speed. So I researched it and bought one. I designed nice side bolsters - these not only have the right gap but also hold the cable sling in just the right position along the side (COG line). I designed them to 'click-lock' in to place. Then I thought about the mirror clips. They're ugly 3/16" 'wires' that have heatshrink on them and that protrude well into the light path on all 4 cardinal points. I'm sure they don't help in getting a well defined image as they will cause diffraction issues of their own. So I designed a set of clamps, now that the mirror is centered left to right, that will overlap the mirror by only 0.2" worst case - it is radiused and has a gentle curve as it terminates the radius (only 3" 'tall'). They will sit about 1/4" above the mirror's worse case (collimation adjustment) point. These should both keep it safe from tilt-out as well as reduce greatly any diffraction issues in the view/image. It is sooo cool to come up with ideas - then make them happen quickly and print them out for pennies. Gary Myers StellarCAT
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?ALT and AZ axis limits 3
Occasionally when I select a target, the scope will not Go To. I will then disengage the clutches and push to the target. When I then select another target, the scope will Go To successfully. I presume this relates to the axis limits set for my 15¡± Obsession. Should I reset the axis limits or since it is only a minor inconvenience leave well enough alone. I should add that after I do my my 2 star alignment protocol that is a combination of Polaris and the most visible star to the south using a cross finder eyepiece, my targets are usually within 1 degree within found with a 13mm or 29mm eye piece. If during the evening I find my Go To deteriorating, I will repeat an alignment that takes only 5 minutes. Mike B
Started by mm Bars @ · Most recent @
Problem tracking with ArgoNavis and ServoCat on my 20" f/4 12
Hi, I was using my 20" f/4 Classic Obsession last night and encountered a problem. I was able to perform a two star alignment followed by a successful GOTO from the catalogue, but then I had to keep tapping on the Azimuth (especially) and Altitude buttons in "guide slow" setting on the hand controller to keep the object centered. I am not even sure that without these corrections the mount would have moved at all, but perhaps it was moving but just slower than it should to track the object. I have had some cable snagging issues and wonder if the power cable has become damaged or connections affected over time by this. Last night when I was setting up and moving the mount around while finding the alignment stars the set up bleeped and restarted without warning. The jog buttons work ok in all directions and I get the three beeps and red flashing light on "DSC", green light on "slew" and yellow light on "HC" on the ServoCat when I power it and the AN up, which is expected. A GOTO on a second object was successful, but again tracking seemed to be poor or non-existant. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what might be going wrong, please? Regards and thanks in advance,
Started by Mike Greenhill-Hooper @ · Most recent @
Recommended battery capacity 9
I want to get rid of my heavy deep cycle marine battery and replace it with a smaller, lighter LiFePO4 battery such as: Jackery Solar Generator 300 Plus Portable Power Station. It's in a convenient package format and ready for solar charging. My guess is an 8 amp hour would be more than sufficient but not sure. We have the Obsession 15" UC with the servo cat and argo navis. Any one have experience with on of the smaller LiFePO4 batteries? thanks -- Jim Lawler Obsession 15" UC f 4.2
Started by Jim Lawler @ · Most recent @
We recommend for definitive ServoCAT related support, get it straight from the horses mouth 2
I happened across this recent thread on Cloudy Nights :- https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/935832-will-servocat-driven-dobs-track-better-with-higher-step-encoders/ I can see several well-meaning enthusiasts took the time and effort to respond, which is fabulous. Unfortunately some of the responses were guesses that were way off the mark and some totally incorrect. However, the best response would have been to either ask the developers of the ServoCAT protocol directly via email or to ask here, where we would also be delighted to respond. Due to the legal fine print terms and conditions of Cloudy Nights, we choose not to join there. Which is a pity, because we could have saved a lot of well meaning people a lot of head-scratching and typing. Anyway, if you are reading this message, you are at the right place. :) -- Gary Kopff Managing Director Wildcard Innovations Pty. Ltd. 20 Kilmory Place Mount Kuring-Gai NSW 2080 Australia Phone +61-2-9457-9049 sales@... https://www.wildcard-innovations.com.au
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Optimizing settings for conducting Electronic Assisted Astronomy (EAA) 9
First of all, for those wondering what EAA is, it is kind of a step between observing and astrophotography. In EAA, images are viewed and stacked live with darks and flats (if used) also added live to each image using software optimized for EAA such as Sharpcap Pro. Also the total length of the final stack is usually less than 60 minutes. The 60 minutes is kind of an unwritten rule and one I never come close to breaking, as I stack long enough to see interesting structures or features and then move on to another target (kind of like visual astronomy) I am not after creating a magazine quality image, instead I am interested in seeing challenging things impossible, or next to impossible to see visually (such as the "Twin Quasar" in Ursa Major or other gravitationally lensed objects). This is in contrast to astrophotography, where many images are taken usually over a much longer period of time (sometimes even over several days), then calibrated, stacked and processed later with a goal of a pleasing image. I am not disparaging astrophotography, I have done some of it myself with other instruments and it has its place, for me, though with very limited time to enjoy my hobby, I want to maximize my time toward satisfying my curiosity. Ok, enough with EAA theory and on to problems I have faced that almost made me give up. The most frustrating of them all was poor tracking which results in stars that are double or star trails or smearing in general. While again, I am not after perfection, at some point it becomes too distracting or even impossible to tease out some structure of faint objects. I started doing much more EAA with my 18" Astrosystems Telekit in 2020 and I had great results pretty quickly after watching others use Sharpcap during live-streaming events or recorded on youtube. Also there was lots of help on Cloudy Nights. However, most of the EAA's on cloudy nights now are using refractors, SCTs or Newtonians on equatorial mounts so some of my learning had to be through trial and error. None of my issues early on seemed to be related to tracking. In fact I had some excellent images of some cool objects pretty early on in this adventure. It seemed like after tinkering with my dob trying to make modifications, such as shortening the truss tubes, adding more gadgets to the upper cage (like adding an electronic focuser to my feather touch, power box, etc...) that I started noticing problems with my tracking. My initial thought was that I need to do an autocal to get more precise gear values now that I made so many changes. While that did seem to help for a time, the problem was back and kept getting worse. So worse that even a 1 sec exposure was showing streaks. This week, here in west-central Virginia, we finally had a spell of clear and smoke-free skies and no moon. I got my scope out on Monday and Tues and set out to do some EAA under these fine skies. I noticed that while watching the live view of the camera, that objects drifted significantly almost immediately after they were centered in the field of view. During "Livestacking", Sharpcap can still stack and keep the image centered pretty well with its stacking algorithm, however everything had short streaks. It seemed like the streaks were worse for objects in the east. That got me thinking about backlash for the first time since doing EAA. While my backlash was never perfect, it had always been decent for visual observing with an eyepiece. For any kind of imaging though, the take up of lash would obviously be VERY noticeable in an image, even if minor. So yesterday evening I cracked open the "Backlash Optimization Procedure" PDF. I almost felt like I was breaking open our emergency procedures manual for aircraft emergencies at this point from my old military days and felt confident that I was on to something. I spent over 1 hour gradually increasing the backlash setting numbers for both ALT and AZ and used a high power eyepiece each time to try to notice the absolute immediate moment the scope started to move and the star visibly moving in the field when pressing the button. After zeroing in on a value of 2 arcminutes for AZ and 3 arcminutes for ALT and saving those to the servocat from the Servocat Sky software, I was finally able to do sub-exposures of up to 10 seconds. I managed to do a live stack of NGC 7129 for over 8 minutes with 10 sec exposures. This is something I had never been able to do before. The best I had done previously was 8seconds and that was when I first started. After the problem worsened I had only been able to use 4 sec exposures and finally at the beginning of this week nothing worked. I am so happy and believe I can probably even take longer exposures up to a point due to frame rotation since we are doing Alt-Az imaging versus equatorial. Anyway here is that image last night of NGC 7129, a nice 11.5 magnitude reflection nebula in Cepheus. Also a few planetary nebula images also captured last night. The last image has some fuzzy stars because after I added I switched out a filter, I didn't get my focus perfect.
Started by Mike @ · Most recent @
How to add a photo album to this group? 3
Gary, I saw your photo album you added and wondered how to do that? By the way- very nice images! Mike
Started by Mike @ · Most recent @
Added photo album Gary Myers imaging folder 2 #photo-notice
K9RX - Gary <amateurK9RX@...> added the photo album Gary Myers imaging folder : Images taken using an Obsession 12.5" with ServoCAT/Argo Navis. GMKtek PC mounted on the scope - remote imaging being done from inside the house. Camera: MallinCam DS10cTEC.
Started by Group Notification @ · Most recent @
Remote imaging scope 30
Hello members of the ServoCAT Pride.... I am making progress getting my 12" Obsession set up for imaging. Although I've had issues with the camera that I bought most everything else is working out. I have a Pegasus UPB, GMKtek M5 NUC, and a Pegasus focus motor. I did the first 'run', from inside the house last night and it mostly worked. The one issue I have of course is the fact that GOTO's don't always place an object in the center of the field. The ServoCAT has gone where it was told to go as is seen by the fact that the AN shows 0.00, 0.00, but the object is not there. With an eyepiece this is somewhat trivial, especially with Spiral Search. But from inside the house - its not so easy. I believe ASCOM has a handpad that can be pulled up - is anyone aware, is this true and if so how do you bring it up? At the moment mine is Pete's ASCOM driver being used with SkyChart. It is the 32 bit version so that the driver is compatible (I am/can uninstall and install the latest version, 64 bit, and run it as a Device Hub if that makes a difference re the handpad). Gary Myers StellarCAT
Started by K9RX - Gary @ · Most recent @
Autocal with high resolution scope encoders 5
I am trying to help a friend with a 15" UC Obsession with 32K scope encoders. His system has never tracked properly. I tried to run an autocal last night and it returned results that were just way too high. I have never really understood autocals lack of entering the scope encoder tic count. He is running with default values, 5324 Az and 6534 Alt, autocal returned 29,981 for alt, and 16,609 for Az. Any ideas on how to either translate these values, or force autocal to a known scope encoder resolution? thanks Craig
Started by Craig Sterrett @ · Most recent @
Servocat and Nexus goto issue 10
I have been running a pair of Nexus DSC units in conjunction with ServoCat on both an 18" dob and also on a 20" dob - two separate Nexus controllers, one for each scope. Everything was working just fine for the last couple of years on both scopes. This summer I took the 20" to a star party where it performed well, goto operations always put the requested object within the FOV of a 17mm Nagler. I set the 20" up in its home garage/observatory and it worked well that night. About three or four weeks later I started experiencing problems with goto on the 20". I would acquire a successful alignment, disengage the clutches, and then pick an object from the star catalogs, and try to initiate the goto with either the Nexus or the wireless ServoCat hand pad and nothing, no movement of the scope. If I poke a few buttons on the SC hand pad to abort the last motor command, I can move the telescope in either axis with the arrow keys on the wireless hand pad. I have replaced the battery in the wireless had pad, re-done alignments repeatedly, double and triple checked DC voltages, ensuring all power is where it should be. Still no gotos will initiate. I have double checked connections and tested all cables that I can possibly test and they all test good. I have a Markless stalk, the old version on this scope, and I thought I had found a bad coupler on the stalk, but I swapped that coupler out tonight and still the same failure to initiate a goto from either the DSC Nexus controller or by poking the green button on the wireless SC hand pad. Like I mentioned this is a new problem, the scope has been functioning just fine as early as a month or so ago. I use the 18" with SC and Nexus setup without difficulty, nearly weekly. The only difference between the 18" and the 20" is the 20" is an older ServoCat system with a wireless hand pad, and the 18" is a little newer unit with a wired hand pad. But the 20" was just working a few weeks ago. If I remember right, the ServoCat won't initiate a goto unless it gets confirmation of a successful alignment from the DSC. Any ideas?
Started by charles jagow @ · Most recent @
No movement on HC ALT DOWN button after first star align - intermittent 15
This is a follow-up to one of my previous threads: /g/ServoCAT/topic/easytrack/106350847 - specifically this message: /g/ServoCAT/message/7003 As the subject line describes - the the ALT DOWN button on the hand controller no longer slews the scope after the first star align. This is a 12 year old GEN3 system that worked as expected until recently This particular failure on alignment first appeared repeatedly during a public observing session back in May. I then set up the scope in the garage and was able to reliably reproduce the failure, post my observation in the above thread, and then it just stopped failing The scope has been sitting for about a month and I finally took another look at it today. Probably at least a half dozen continuous failures. Here's the scenario: - positing scope vertically, facing north - power on, wait for three beeps from AN - SC Slew LED is solid green, HC LED is solid yellow, DSC is rapidly flashing red - MODE FIX ALT REF, ALT REF = 90, AUTO ADJUST OFF, ENTER - MODE ENCODER - Slew scope to approx ALT, AZ of a star (Castor in this case) - MODE ALIGN STAR, CASTOR - Press the hand controller GOTO button to confirm the first star - SC Slew LED is solid green, HC LED is solid yellow, DSC LED is rapidly flashing red - Press the hand controller ALT DOWN button, DSC LED goes off and stays off (the other two LEDs stay on), no movement down in ALT can be achieved - If I slew either direction in AZ, the DSC LED stays off. - If I slew up in ALT, the DSC LED starts to flash rapidly again - If I now try to slew down in ALT, the DSC LED goes out (still able to slew either way in AZ), pressing ALT UP and the DSC LED starts flashing. Three times - same behavior. So I'm thinking to myself, what if I press ENTER on the Argo instead of the hand controller GOTO to confirm the first star? Wow - the DSC LED keeps blinking rapidly and I can slew in all four directions. Reset and tried that again, works. Reset and try the GOTO button, works. Reset and try the GOTO button, works. Very odd. SC firmware is 70A. I have an 18" with the same SC and AN configuration and I tried the HC from that scope and it made no difference when it was failing. I'm going to go do something else for a while and then see how this behaves. :)
Started by Mike @ · Most recent @
Gen3 Wired Hand Controllers - sale... 2
I have a few of these left guys. Gen3 ServoCAT Hand Controller. Comes with a long coiled cable at no extra charge. $150 plus ~$10 to $14 USPS PM conus. Drop me a note direct: amateurk9rx at gmail dot com Gary Myers
Started by K9RX - Gary @ · Most recent @
Need documentation for Gen 1 Servocat 2
New member here. I recently purchased a Plettstone 18" dob with a Gen 1 Servocat, but the manuals were not included. I've gotten everything working, but I could sure use the actual manuals! Also, are there firmware updates I could apply to this unit, or is it too old? Thanks for your help. Brad
Started by Bradley Rode @ · Most recent @
Guiding problems 21
Hi all, I retrofitted my classic 18¡¯¡¯ Obsession with a ServoCAT in 2020. I do seem to have a problem with the guiding (but I¡¯m not 100% sure). When I go to an object using my Nexus DSC Pro, I can see that the ServoCat is doing a great job and the numbers on the ServoCAT go down to 0.0, 0.0. However, the object does not stay at 0.0, 0.0, but start to drift (a bit). The numbers on the Nexus will typically go to 0.10 ¨C 0.20. Occasionally the numbers do get better, as the number jumps to 0.05, 0.05 again. Typically, the jumps are in the range of 0.10. Should the numbers just stay at 0.0, 0.0? What is the possible cause for this? Is it because the telescope is not totally level in the garden (in the grass)? Is there a setting on the Nexus or the ServoCAT I need to change? Did I make a mistake while installing the ServoCAT Or is this normal and expected behavior? Thanks a lot for looking into my question, Wim -- Wim De Meester DeepskyLog ¨C Log your visual astronomical observations DeepskyWim ¨C Astronomy and Solar Eclipse Blog WimEnSara ¨C Travel blog Polarsteps ¨C Follow our trips
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Do I have the latest firmware? 3
Hello, I purchased the Servocat Jr. in November, 2021, and installed it in my Home Built 16" dob. My receipt states ServoCAT Control box ver "B 70C" and Wired 8 bit Hand Controller vers "1.02. Does this mean I have the latest version, or do I need to download a more recent one? Thanks -- DAP
Started by Demetrios Papadopoulos @ · Most recent @
Observing ISS (and other satellites) 29
Dear all, I create a specific thread for observing satelittes by copying / pasting some exchange that was done in /g/ServoCAT/topic/autocal_cable_length/106277132 My initial message : After having updated servocat to version 7 and ArgoNavis to version 3.04. I have for the first time succesfully observed ISS with AN/servocat . Ssssooooo happy ! It was done with my 36" F3.5, with Ethos 21 => magnification x173,FOV 34' I have made some optimisation of the gear ratio but the follow up of ISS is average : I had to push the guide fast right button in continue when ISS was higher speed. I think my gear ratios could be impoved (see above message) and Gary provided support on this. Gary answer : TIME is the very most important criterion. It has to be precise to the second. Alignment I believe is the next critical item. Gary Kopff from WCI can respond to this... the track of any object is going to be an approximate one with the error being directly related to issues of alignment. Mount error - i.e. the mount (the scope) is not made to a very high precision (in most ServoCAT systems it is a WOODEN telescope meant for visual use). So issues with bearing placement side to side forward/backward up/dwn... will come into play. Hold on - I just re-read your note - you didn't REALLY 'see' the ISS ... in a 36" DOB!? Is there is a translation issue there? When I was working on the ServoCAT side of designing this - with my 12" out in the backyard - I knew that doing any type of fast-ish tracking for Earth orbit objects would be limited by the size of the scope and ESPECIALLY if there is a ladder involved... I can't imagine trying to follow with a ladder. I know I did a bunch of booster rocket tracking - and it was moving pretty darn fast. (and it is SO COOL to see this happening - one of the first times this was working I was looking and thought - "its not working, the stars are flying by in the view" ... then I looked again and BINGO - the object I was looking for, however, was DEAD CENTER STATIONARY in the filed. It was a weird sensation). My answer to Gary : Hi gary, No translation issue, it is with a 36" dob. Enclosed a picture. Yes, looking the star "flying" was amazing ! and you see ISS enlarging little by little, see the solar panels as it comes closer then reducing size. All this was great. For accurate time, I did the calibration of the internal clock of AN as indicated in manual using (NTP protocol), so I think it's OK Regarding the ladder issue : in fact my 36" is e Fullum folded scope so it don't need tall ladder. I would say I don't use anything until maybe 40-50¡ã . At zenith 2 steps is enough for me (I'm not tall 1.73), 3 steps for small people, so I have only a 3 step ladder. When I watched ISS it was not a problem in first low alt passage. More an issue at 2nd passage nearby zenith but the ladder was manageable. The main problem I have is certainly the pointing precision not enough on the 36". The pointing precision is not optimal and objects are classically not in the fov. 1 or 2¡ã away. Since few observation, I start to use more and more the wonderful TPAS of AN. But so far I limited to maximum 30 stars => the parameters are not accurate enough yet, and I hope I don't have a non persistent error. This Is 1 of my goal in the next month or let's say automn goal to improve TPAS. When I followed ISS, I had already calculate 2 parameters of TPAS so the pointing was better than usual but anyway, the ISS was just outside of fov. I could easily recentered it but it means the pointing was still not perfect. I had to continuously push the az "CW" button in guide fast mode to keep ISS in the fov. The azimuth following was nearly perfect.
Started by Raphael Guinamard @ · Most recent @
ServoCat and Argo Navis disconnecting 3
Hi, I was out observing this past weekend, (with our cloudy weather that was unusual) I did the standard 2-star alignment, then I was distracted with some newbies showing up. When I went back to the scope, the AN and SC were not talking to each other any more. No red light on the SC. I believe this is the first time this has happened to me. Any thoughts on why they would disconnect? Steve Goldberg 15¡± Obsession Classic
Started by Steve Goldberg @ · Most recent @
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