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Thanks for the welcome Rick, What mods and upgrades have I done? The early things are roller furler, lazy jacks, all lines aft with clutches, adjustable topping lift, Harken traveler and spinnaker gear. Then Bimini Top, cockpit cushions, folding nav table and stereo system. Breaker electrical panel upgraded wiring, instruments, it still has the Loran installed, GPS, VHF and Ham radios. Put pump on the ice box to pump overboard through the galley drain instead of draining in the bilge. Installed sea (lake) water pressure wash down pump with outlet in cockpit. I put a large padeye in the cockpit for temporary installation of a mainsheet so I can single hand easier. I have rebuilt all of the pumps on the boat including the head several times. The engine is original in all respects other than filters and one throttle cable. It still runs like new and will start in below freezing weather with only a few cranks. I have taken the boat down the river to Kentucky Lake (200 miles one way) several times and have run the engine for 12 hours a day at 3200 r.p.m. without a miss or hiccup. My boat will cruise at about 6.5 knots unless I overload it, I did get 24 statue miles per gallon on one of my trips average upstream and downstream. The interior still has the original cushions and drapes. We take them home every couple of years and clean everything up. I have had to re-glue the headliner several times but it is still original as are the cushions and curtains. I have had to re-bed the chain plates every couple of years and the deck hardware only once. I have replaced the running rigging every five or six years. Since the boat is in the water all year long it takes a beating from the elements but has held up very well, I have it pulled every 4 or 5 years for a bottom job. The only blisters have been on the keel, never one on the hull or the rudder. I have a two blade fixed prop and have always thought I would put a feathering on it but never found the deal I was happy with. Sails are 110, 155 heavy, 155 Mylar, 150 nylon light, 3/4 oz spinnaker, and shopping for a new main. I live less than a mile from the club so I can get there after work and before dinner. It makes a huge difference it my ability to take care of it. We have toyed with the idea of taking it to the Florida Panhandle for a year or two but not yet, maybe when I retire, which is not far away. I tried to upload a picture but I am apparently limited for some reason. It let me create an album but not upload. Mark

Mark, Welcome to the group! I know there are only a few of us... But they only made 85 boats. My hope in forming the yahoo group was to identify maybe 20% of us if lucky.... Thanks for the thoughts on the handrails. Waiting for a snow/rain free day here in Connecticut in order to sand down the rails. I need to teak clean/brighten the rails so need to wait for warmer weather...but for sure can fix some of the stand-off tubes in basement Regarding the main, I have what may be an original main and a ca. 2004 Kevlar racing main (north). I noticed that the Kevlar Main has less roach then the original UK main. The backstay really interferes with a "roachy" main and is a real hassle in light air. The Kevlar is nice, she sails well with her and the 150 genny. I have hull #28 and have owned her since 2007 having upgrade from a Tanzer 22. Was lucky that the P.O. installed new diesel engine and running rigging. This year I'm doing some minor updates -- new steaming/deck light, fixing the profurl furler - needs a new $20 titanium screw, new starboard foot block (replaced the port foot block in fall), refinish boards and rails, and refitting a new raw water intake, and maybe installling a new battery isolator. What work have you done since 87? Rick

Nice to find a group of S2-27 owners. My name is Mark and I live in Nashville TN. I own hull number 15 laid in 85. I have owned my boat since 1987. It is located at Harbor Island Yacht Club on Old Hickory lake just east of Nashville. I have done lots of upgrades over the years and just can't find any reason to buy another boat. Although I have raced it over the years it is not my primary interest. I spent 15 years on the foredeck of a J22 and that was enough for me. My handrails and hatch boards are in the garage right now getting fresh varnish for about the 5th or 6th time. BTW, a trick on filling the stand off tubes is to use a hole saw and cut pieces of teak then epoxy them in the tube. The guide hole of the hole saw centers the 1/4 inch bolt and they don't rot out. I am in the market for a new mainsail, any thoughts? I am thinking roughly 3/4 battens for the top three and a loose foot, big roach, one reef and a Cunningham. Mark

My battery charger is a Dytek. There is precious little info on the internet on these chargers, since they are apparently out of business. In addition, my boat didn't come with a Dytek owners manual or original literature. Do any of you know if this is original (OEM) equipment on the S2 27? I *do* know that Hunter used them on some of their boats. Some internet references refer to them as "fry-tek", meaning they cook the batteries. From that disparaging reference, I assume that they are not modern 3 or 4 stage chargers, with a float cycle. Anybody have any literature they would be willing to post? BTW, I have two group 24 batteries on my boat. Thanks! Dave S. 1987 S2 27 "Clio" Hull #80

posted some pictures of my winter cover frame - a carpenter friend of mine designed this so the frame ribs fold up for easy storage. If you look closely at one of the ribs, you;ll see a red patch between the wood - this is actually piece of shower pan liner - screwed into the wood. It folds easily and is stable. Rick

So part of my winter fun is refinishing the handrails. A pain to remove as one of the nuts was stuck to a bolt, and then I accidentally cut the wrong bolt...so now I have to get 2 new bolts. At any rate, the handrails are attached by 5 stainless tubular supports - inside the tube is a piece of teak rounded to fit inside the stainless tube to support the bolt as it goes thru the tube and into the deck. Of course several of the teak pieces inside several of the tubes are completely rotted. And the inner diameter of the tube does not appear to be a standard size. Any thoughts on how to cut some new teak pieces for the stainless tube? My other approach was to fill the tubes with epoxy so they'll never rot. Rick s/v Esperance S2 27, Hull #42

Ditto on all counts: My boat is #50, 1GM10, 2 blade prop, fixed. About 5 knots max. My external oil line on the lower port side began leaking this summer. It appears to be rusted through where the retainer clip wraps around it. I ordered all three new lines from Torrensen and they informed me that the leaking one was no longer available even from Yanmar! The other replacements are copper tubing brazed to the banjo fittings. Looks like I'll have to do the same to the old fittings, unless there's another source for new old stock out there. Thanks, Bob

I have an '85 S2-27. Have same engine and a martec folding 2-blade prop. The boat is definetly underpowered. It should have a 2gm-10. I rarely get above 5.1 knots, but rarely have motored sans wind, tide and clean bottom...;) Thanks. Rick Perret +1 203 545 9598 Sent from mobile device.

Just curious. Which engine do you have in your 27? My boat is hull #80, built in 1987 (modified cabin layout, as shown in the '87 brochure in the "photo" section). My engine is a Yanmar 1GM10, with a small two blade fixed prop. The boat is much underpowered, IMHO. I can manage about 5.5 kts at 3200 rpm with a clean bottom and no wind or current. How about yours? Year, hull #, engine, and performance?

can someone confirm what the 100% jib sail area? I saw one listing stating the sail area was 222 sq ft. given that the total sail plan with 100% jib is 350 - 375 (seems to vary based upon source) - that would make the mains'l only 130-150 sq ft - the main seems much bigger than that... Rick

Have any of you all replaced the genoa sheet foot blocks? my stbd block sheave went flying across the cockpit during a race... let me tell you, I removed the block from the deck - not sure what someone was thinking when they installed it...one set of bolts/nuts were right above the aft most bulkhead so it was a real PITA to remove - had to actually cut away some fiberglass tabbing in order to reach the nuts...dumb... Rick

Do any (of the three) of you have a fixed boom topping lift? If so, do you remove the topping lift from the boom end while sailing? My fixed topping lift really interferes with the upper part of the roach of my mainsail, and it seems to restrict vertical boom movement. I would appreciate hearing about how you handle this "problem" (or is it a problem?) By the way, I have the cruising version of the 27, with mid-boom sheeting. Thanks. Dave S. s/v Clio S2 27, hull #80

how do we get to word out the the remaining ~81 that this group exists? Suggestions?

http://www.motoren.ath.cx/menus/yanmar.html Thanks, Rick Perret Sent from my handheld.

Note that the settings I refer to below are for the Loos professional PT-2 Gauge, not the smaller gauge. Apparently the scales are different for these gauges

I am in the process of tuning my mast. Anyone have reasonable Loos gauge values for the shrouds? I have an adjustable backstay, so that's not such an issue at this point. Thanks. --Dave (aka scuppers) s/v Clio

If interested I have a PDF copy of a yanmar service manual - had found it on a website - its a Clymer manual I believe. If interested, email me and I will send it on (would rather do it this way rather than posting on the site) Rick

Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the s227classassociation group. File : /S2 27 Owners Manual.pdf Uploaded by : uswa174 <uswa174@...> Description : Owner's Manual (1987) for the S2 27 You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/s227classassociation/files/S2%2027%20Owners%20Manual.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmlfiles Regards, uswa174 <uswa174@...>

What kind of PHRF ratings are you getting for JAM racing? In the long island sound area i'm assigned a 206 with the 151 #1 head sail. also, any thoughts on getting this boat moving in light air downwind (sans spinnaker?). in 5 knots or less of true wind - the boat is very slow on a broad reach - maybe getting low 3's thru the water. Rick

Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the s227classassociation group. File : /combine.pdf Uploaded by : s227classassociation <rperret@...> Description : Sail Trim material from Bill Gladstone (teaches at North U) as posted on the SFsail.com website You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/s227classassociation/files/combine.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmlfiles Regards, s227classassociation <rperret@...>