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Looking for Used S2 27 deep keel

JR Cann All Messages By This Member #555 I am considering the purchase of a new (to me) boat as a retirement "toy". I have previously owned a 9.2A and a 7.9 Grand Slam. I have lived-aboard a number of other sailboats for over 25 years and cruised extensively. I have a short list of several high quality boats to consider. I would seriously consider a reasonably priced 27. I would prefer that it be the original "A" interior (pre-'86) and also with a 2GM engine (no outboards), but neither would be a "kill the deal" issue. I am located in the Chesapeake and have no problem with doing an on-the-water delivery from anywhere on the East Coast. The expense of trucking would have to be taken into account for boats located elsewhere.? If you have one or know of someone that may be willing to sell. please contact me.
uswa174 All Messages By This Member #556 Hmmm...I'm not sure that many (any?) 27s came with 2GM engines...it would have been nice if they all did. It might be tough to find one.? My '87 model "B" has a 1GM10 with a two-bladed fixed prop, which will push the boat at about 5.5 kts. ? Dave S. s/v Clio 1987 S2 27, hull #80 ? ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: "" [jrcann765@...] Date: 01/26/2014 09:22 PM To: "" Subject: [s227classassociation] Looking for Used S2 27 deep keel ? I am considering the purchase of a new (to me) boat as a retirement "toy". I have previously owned a 9.2A and a 7.9 Grand Slam. I have lived-aboard a number of other sailboats for over 25 years and cruised extensively. I have a short list of several high quality boats to consider. I would seriously consider a reasonably priced 27. I would prefer that it be the original "A" interior (pre-'86) and also with a 2GM engine (no outboards), but neither would be a "kill the deal" issue. I am located in the Chesapeake and have no problem with doing an on-the-water delivery from anywhere on the East Coast. The expense of trucking would have to be taken into account for boats located elsewhere.? If you have one or know of someone that may be willing to sell. please contact me. ?
s227classassociation All Messages By This Member #557 All 27's to best of my knowledge came with the 1GM10. I think the 2GM would be too big to fit. toggle quoted message Show quoted text --- In s227classassociation@..., "Dave S." <uswa174@...> wrote: Hmmm...I'm not sure that many (any?) 27s came with 2GM engines...it would have been nice if they all did. It might be tough to find one.?? My '87 model "B" has a 1GM10 with a two-bladed fixed prop, which will push the boat at about 5.5 kts. ?? Dave S. s/v Clio 1987 S2 27, hull #80 ?? ??-----Original Message----- From: "" [jrcann765@...] Date: 01/26/2014 09:22 PM To: "" Subject: [s227classassociation] Looking for Used S2 27 deep keel ??I am considering the purchase of a new (to me) boat as a retirement "toy". I have previously owned a 9.2A and a 7.9 Grand Slam. I have lived-aboard a number of other sailboats for over 25 years and cruised extensively. I have a short list of several high quality boats to consider.I would seriously consider a reasonably priced 27. I would prefer that it be the original "A" interior (pre-'86) and also with a 2GM engine (no outboards), but neither would be a "kill the deal" issue. I am located in the Chesapeake and have no problem with doing an on-the-water delivery from anywhere on the East Coast. The expense of trucking would have to be taken into account for boats located elsewhere.??If you have one or know of someone that may be willing to sell. please contact me. ??
Mark All Messages By This Member #558 Brian, on this list, is the only one that I know of that has a 2GM and that was a re-power. Right Brian?? Mark Nashville #15 toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 1/28/2014 6:41 PM, s227classassociation wrote: All 27's to best of my knowledge came with the 1GM10. I think the 2GM would be too big to fit. --- In s227classassociation@..., "Dave S." <uswa174@...> wrote: Hmmm...I'm not sure that many (any?) 27s came with 2GM engines...it would have been nice if they all did. It might be tough to find one. My '87 model "B" has a 1GM10 with a two-bladed fixed prop, which will push the boat at about 5.5 kts. Dave S. s/v Clio 1987 S2 27, hull #80 -----Original Message----- From: "" [jrcann765@...] Date: 01/26/2014 09:22 PM To: "" Subject: [s227classassociation] Looking for Used S2 27 deep keel I am considering the purchase of a new (to me) boat as a retirement "toy". I have previously owned a 9.2A and a 7.9 Grand Slam. I have lived-aboard a number of other sailboats for over 25 years and cruised extensively. I have a short list of several high quality boats to consider.I would seriously consider a reasonably priced 27. I would prefer that it be the original "A" interior (pre-'86) and also with a 2GM engine (no outboards), but neither would be a "kill the deal" issue. I am located in the Chesapeake and have no problem with doing an on-the-water delivery from anywhere on the East Coast. The expense of trucking would have to be taken into account for boats located elsewhere. If you have one or know of someone that may be willing to sell. please contact me.
FWPHOTO All Messages By This Member #559 My '86 has the 1GM10. Can't remember if the 2 cylander was even an option. I think you could stuff a 2GM in there but it would be tight. You'd probably have to shorten the prop shaft, though, maybe re-do the engine mounts. So, what do you think is a "reasonably priced S2 27" in good shape? Frank S/V Carina toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Jan 28, 2014, at 9:15 PM, Mark wrote: Brian, on this list, is the only one that I know of that has a 2GM and that was a re-power. Right Brian?? Mark Nashville #15 On 1/28/2014 6:41 PM, s227classassociation wrote: All 27's to best of my knowledge came with the 1GM10. I think the 2GM would be too big to fit. --- In s227classassociation@..., "Dave S." <uswa174@...> wrote: Hmmm...I'm not sure that many (any?) 27s came with 2GM engines...it would have been nice if they all did. It might be tough to find one.? My '87 model "B" has a 1GM10 with a two-bladed fixed prop, which will push the boat at about 5.5 kts. ? Dave S. s/v Clio 1987 S2 27, hull #80 ? ? -----Original Message----- From: "" [jrcann765@...] Date: 01/26/2014 09:22 PM To: "" Subject: [s227classassociation] Looking for Used S2 27 deep keel ? I am considering the purchase of a new (to me) boat as a retirement "toy". I have previously owned a 9.2A and a 7.9 Grand Slam. I have lived-aboard a number of other sailboats for over 25 years and cruised extensively. I have a short list of several high quality boats to consider.I would seriously consider a reasonably priced 27. I would prefer that it be the original "A" interior (pre-'86) and also with a 2GM engine (no outboards), but neither would be a "kill the deal" issue. I am located in the Chesapeake and have no problem with doing an on-the-water delivery from anywhere on the East Coast. The expense of trucking would have to be taken into account for boats located elsewhere.? If you have one or know of someone that may be willing to sell. please contact me. ? ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links
BJS All Messages By This Member #560 Mark is correct. ?Our S2-27 does have a Yanmar 2GM20FW engine. ?It's mated to a 3 MaxProp folding propeller
[email protected] #561 Frank A friend is a Yacht broker who has access to sold boat data. I asked him a question on pricing. There are many variables of course, location and condition. The pricing range he gave me for a 1985 in the northeast was $9.9-13K. toggle quoted message Show quoted text --- In s227classassociation@..., Frank Wiewandt <fwphoto@...> wrote: My '86 has the 1GM10. Can't remember if the 2 cylander was even an option. I think you could stuff a 2GM in there but it would be tight. You'd probably have to shorten the prop shaft, though, maybe re-do the engine mounts. So, what do you think is a "reasonably priced S2 27" in good shape? Frank S/V Carina On Jan 28, 2014, at 9:15 PM, Mark wrote: Brian, on this list, is the only one that I know of that has a 2GM and that was a re-power. Right Brian?? Mark Nashville #15 On 1/28/2014 6:41 PM, s227classassociation wrote: All 27's to best of my knowledge came with the 1GM10. I think the 2GM would be too big to fit. --- In s227classassociation@..., "Dave S." <uswa174@> wrote: Hmmm...I'm not sure that many (any?) 27s came with 2GM engines...it would have been nice if they all did. It might be tough to find one.? My '87 model "B" has a 1GM10 with a two-bladed fixed prop, which will push the boat at about 5.5 kts. ? Dave S. s/v Clio 1987 S2 27, hull #80 ? ? -----Original Message----- From: "" [jrcann765@] Date: 01/26/2014 09:22 PM To: "" Subject: [s227classassociation] Looking for Used S2 27 deep keel ? I am considering the purchase of a new (to me) boat as a retirement "toy". I have previously owned a 9.2A and a 7.9 Grand Slam. I have lived-aboard a number of other sailboats for over 25 years and cruised extensively. I have a short list of several high quality boats to consider.I would seriously consider a reasonably priced 27. I would prefer that it be the original "A" interior (pre-'86) and also with a 2GM engine (no outboards), but neither would be a "kill the deal" issue. I am located in the Chesapeake and have no problem with doing an on-the-water delivery from anywhere on the East Coast. The expense of trucking would have to be taken into account for boats located elsewhere.? If you have one or know of someone that may be willing to sell. please contact me. ? ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links
s227classassociation All Messages By This Member #562 Brian, was that an aftermarket install? Based upon all of the S2 data I have, it doesn't appear that a 2GM10 engine was an option. Are you the original owner? toggle quoted message Show quoted text --- In s227classassociation@..., <bsmokler@...> wrote: Mark is correct. Our S2-27 does have a Yanmar 2GM20FW engine. It's mated to a 3 MaxProp folding propeller
BJS All Messages By This Member #563 jr.cann765, You are welcome to contact me regarding our S2-27. ?It's a 1986 with the original A interior and a 2GM20F engine.
BJS All Messages By This Member #564 As far as I've been able to ascertain, the 2GM20F was installed as original equipment when our boat was commissioned. ?I'll have to go back to look at my documentation to see if I have any original dealer information etc. Based on Yanmar's specs the 2GM20 isn't really -that- much larger than the 10GM10. ?~100mm longer and ~50mm wider and 23b heavier. ?Our engine compartment is snug, but I'd have to look at Mark's boat, the other S2-27 on our lake, to compare to the 1GM10 equipped boats to see any difference. ?I just did a major service on the engine and sucked out and replaced all fluids-engine oil, heat exchanger antifreeze, and transmission lube, replaced both fuel filters, installed a new impeller, replaced the engine stop cable, and had the mechanic do a thorough going over of all systems. ?For a 1980's vintage boat, she's doing remarkably well. I'm not the original owner, but thanks for thinking I would be that loyal and long term thinking. ?I'm pretty sure I am the 4th owner of this particular boat. ?She started out on the Great Lakes, was moved to the Neuse River area in North Carolina, and I moved her to Tennessee.
john All Messages By This Member #565 ? ? Would you be interested in a shoal keel? ? It's hull number 50,? I? believe 1986. It has the one-lunger Yanmar [there is a 27 with the 20hp, I've seen it on youtube, guy named Butch Petty, last I heard his boat was for sale in Georgia]. ? She's in pretty good shape. We have a number of jobs on the spring list, varnish, paint lazarettes, lockers, etc. Install new bow light I bought last fall.? I have bushings for the rudder that I will install during the haul out. Put in new v-berth cushions, need to make covers for those. We weekend on her frequently. Has a brand new holding tank, installed but not plumbed. Removed the water tank when we layed her up, going to clean that before we put her back in. ? Regular batten-ed main, Harken roller furler with 135 jib both serviceable, Asy spinnaker. Couple of anchors & rodes. Autopilot. Knotmeter doesn't work, depth does. I think it needs a sending unit for the speed, older unit, Signet I believe. She has Bimini, cockpit cushions, icebox, alcohol stove, 2 series 27 batteries. ? She's a good sailer, I've had her up over 8 knots a couple of times. Sails well under either jib or main alone. Needs bottom paint. I think the stuff from last year was bottom food, not anti fouling, I had serious growth after 2 months. I was recovering from rotaror-cuff surgery and had a yard do it, don't know what they used,? but others on the upper bay said it was a bad year. ? Let me know what you think. ? john toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: "jrcann765@..." <jrcann765@...> To: s227classassociation@... Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 7:57 PM Subject: [s227classassociation] RE: Looking for Used S2 27 deep keel ? do you have any details?

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