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Check those scupper hoses, people.

uswa174 All Messages By This Member #414 Just an FYI for y'all with a 27. I had a minor, but pesky, water leak in my port lazarette, which I found was coming from a cracked scupper hose and a loose hose clamp. I've been getting water in the lazarette when heeled to port on starboard tack. I always thought that the hoses were a potential failure point, and in fact they are. My hose was pretty well dry rotted and cracked. Has anyone on this list replaced one of these hoses with the boat in the water? I'm thinking about a short-term fix using a bicycle inner tube repair kit to get me through the rest of the season, then replace the hoses when the boat is on the hard after haul out. What do y'all think? Anyone else had this problem? ___________________ Dave S. s/v Clio 1987 S2 27, hull #80
taylorsmill All Messages By This Member #415 Thanks for the tip, Dave. I have worried that those hoses were vulnerable to impact from something getting loose or snagged on them in the lockers. My through hulls are just below the waterline and I suspect they need to be rebedded. When I pull mine out I'll be potting the holes to avoid core rot. (Or fixing the rot that's already there!) There is a 'level wrap' silicon rubber tape that will seal to itself and might get you to the end of the season. Here's the consumer version... Bob
s227classassociation All Messages By This Member #416 i've thought about that too as i never liked the design of those scuppers. i think you could take a glob of toilet bowl wax and stick it under the hull to close up the hole outside, then make the repair. my question s how do you put the new hose in as the cockpit floor and thru hull fittings leave you with no clearance to insert the hose in i think? or can uou easily remove the cockpit floor fitting pop the hose in, and the re-insert the fitting? btw, toilet bowl wax is great stuff to have on-board...it can be molded, stops water flow, etc.. toggle quoted message Show quoted text --- In s227classassociation@..., "uswa174" <uswa174@...> wrote: Just an FYI for y'all with a 27. I had a minor, but pesky, water leak in my port lazarette, which I found was coming from a cracked scupper hose and a loose hose clamp. I've been getting water in the lazarette when heeled to port on starboard tack. I always thought that the hoses were a potential failure point, and in fact they are. My hose was pretty well dry rotted and cracked. Has anyone on this list replaced one of these hoses with the boat in the water? I'm thinking about a short-term fix using a bicycle inner tube repair kit to get me through the rest of the season, then replace the hoses when the boat is on the hard after haul out. What do y'all think? Anyone else had this problem? ___________________ Dave S. s/v Clio 1987 S2 27, hull #80
s227classassociation All Messages By This Member #417 Bob, are your thru hulls flush or are the bronze mushroom type? Also, are yours beginning to seep seawater into the locker? i placed a large boat fender between the scuppers and res of lazarette to somewhat protect them. i might fabricate some type of large pvc tube to encase the whole lemgth of scupper to prevent damage. my old boat, a Tanzer 22 had full lemgth fiberglass scuppers molded in. toggle quoted message Show quoted text --- In s227classassociation@..., Bob Taylor <woodwork@...> wrote: Thanks for the tip, Dave. I have worried that those hoses were vulnerable to impact from something getting loose or snagged on them in the lockers. My through hulls are just below the waterline and I suspect they need to be rebedded. When I pull mine out I'll be potting the holes to avoid core rot. (Or fixing the rot that's already there!) There is a 'level wrap' silicon rubber tape that will seal to itself and might get you to the end of the season. Here's the consumer version... Bob
taylorsmill All Messages By This Member #418 I was pretty sure the scupper through hulls were plastic, but we won't know for sure until I can check. They are definitely mushroom head, not flush. I would replace the hose with something tougher than that bilge pump grade stuff that's in there now. I bet it's a total pain to change unless the trough hull fitting or the cockpit floor flange were removed; too short to bend.
s227classassociation All Messages By This Member #419 interesting - mine are flush - assume when you look inside that they are mounted on a raised block of solid firberglass (vs thru a cored part of the hull). agree about mounting issue - i think you could probably remove the cabin floor fitting from the top - hopefully they didn't use 5200 to mount that..) who ever put my scuppers in used something fairly thick - like exhaust hose or stuffing box hose. they are bone dry toggle quoted message Show quoted text --- In s227classassociation@..., Bob Taylor <woodwork@...> wrote: I was pretty sure the scupper through hulls were plastic, but we won't know for sure until I can check. They are definitely mushroom head, not flush. I would replace the hose with something tougher than that bilge pump grade stuff that's in there now. I bet it's a total pain to change unless the trough hull fitting or the cockpit floor flange were removed; too short to bend.
uswa174 All Messages By This Member #422 Hey Bob, Thanks your your tip, too. I couldn't find that product at the local Walgreens, but they has a similar silicone tape product for automobile water pump hoses and radiator hoses at Autozone. Bought a 10 ft roll for 8 bucks. Drove out to the boat after work to find another 2 cups of water in the lazarette, so I mopped up the water, snugged up the hose clamps a bit more, then wrapped cracked area of the hose with the silicone tape. Guess I'll see in a couple of days if that solved the problem (at least in the short term.) I'll keep you posted. Thanks again. ___________________ Dave S. s/v Clio 1987 S2 27, hull #80 toggle quoted message Show quoted text --- In s227classassociation@..., Bob Taylor <woodwork@...> wrote: Thanks for the tip, Dave. I have worried that those hoses were vulnerable to impact from something getting loose or snagged on them in the lockers. My through hulls are just below the waterline and I suspect they need to be rebedded. When I pull mine out I'll be potting the holes to avoid core rot. (Or fixing the rot that's already there!) There is a 'level wrap' silicon rubber tape that will seal to itself and might get you to the end of the season. Here's the consumer version... Bob
uswa174 All Messages By This Member #423 The part of the scupper that extends through the hull into my lazarettes--and to which the hoses attach--are plastic. I fact, they are threaded where they go through the hull via a kind of large hex nut. If memory serves me correctly (might not), they are mushroom type on the outside of the hull. ___________________ Dave S. s/v Clio 1987 S2 27, hull #80 toggle quoted message Show quoted text --- In s227classassociation@..., Bob Taylor <woodwork@...> wrote: I was pretty sure the scupper through hulls were plastic, but we won't know for sure until I can check. They are definitely mushroom head, not flush. I would replace the hose with something tougher than that bilge pump grade stuff that's in there now. I bet it's a total pain to change unless the trough hull fitting or the cockpit floor flange were removed; too short to bend.
Mark Swart #424 I used a similar tape on a leaky exhaust hose on a previous boat and it worked fine to get me through the season. The one I bought was red. It should hold up for the scupper. toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: uswa174 To: s227classassociation@... Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 8:48 PM Subject: [s227classassociation] Re: Check those scupper hoses, people. ? Hey Bob, Thanks your your tip, too. I couldn't find that product at the local Walgreens, but they has a similar silicone tape product for automobile water pump hoses and radiator hoses at Autozone. Bought a 10 ft roll for 8 bucks. Drove out to the boat after work to find another 2 cups of water in the lazarette, so I mopped up the water, snugged up the hose clamps a bit more, then wrapped cracked area of the hose with the silicone tape. Guess I'll see in a couple of days if that solved the problem (at least in the short term.) I'll keep you posted. Thanks again. ___________________ Dave S. s/v Clio 1987 S2 27, hull #80 --- In s227classassociation@..., Bob Taylor wrote: > > Thanks for the tip, Dave. I have worried that those hoses were > vulnerable to impact from something getting loose or snagged on them in > the lockers. My through hulls are just below the waterline and I suspect > they need to be rebedded. When I pull mine out I'll be potting the holes > to avoid core rot. (Or fixing the rot that's already there!) > > There is a 'level wrap' silicon rubber tape that will seal to itself and > might get you to the end of the season. Here's the consumer version... > > http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/mighty-fixit-flexible-silicone-wrap-tape/ID=prod6044187-product > > Bob >

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