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Plywood Stiffener

 

Has anyone replaced the plywood stiffener on the lazarette hatches. I have
a couple pieces of teak that I could epoxy in their place but hate to remove
the hatches to do it. The plywood is about gone and falling apart.


Re: Another 1GM10 question...

 

Hey Rick (and All),

I'm launching on Monday...Tuesday I'm taking the boat to down to the marina where I have kept my boat(s) since 2002 -- a 6-8 hour cruise from where I stored it this year. Quite a few boats are still on the hard, and my marina is only about 2/3 occupied at the moment.

The water levels in the Great Lakes were historically low last fall and winter, so many of us had to find alternative winter storage sites. What a PITA! On the bright side, the weather forecast looks good for Monday & Tuesday, though, albeit cool. The weather has been really dicey and unsettled here the last few weeks...as you may have heard, Lake Michigan can become "sporty" pretty fast. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for nice breeze and reasonable wave action, since I will likely be singlehanding it back to my home port.

Dave S.
s/v Clio
1987 S2 27, hull #80

--- In s227classassociation@..., "s227classassociation" <rperret@...> wrote:

Hey Dave

I lightly grease the impeller - tips and sides, and the gasket.

Just got in the water last nite. But have issues with my mooring location...never ends..

Rick

--- In s227classassociation@..., "uswa174" <uswa174@> wrote:

When you replace your water pump impeller, do you lightly grease the paper gasket, or not?

Thanks in advance for your responses!

--Dave

PS. As Bones said in Star Trek: "I'm a doctor, not a bricklayer!" Well, I'm a sailor, not a diesel mechanic.


Re: Battery Size

 

I'm a bit late to this conversation, but I have two Group 24s on my boat. One is a starting battery, the other is a deep cycle. I remove my batteries in the winter and store them at home. Off season, I trickle charge them about once per month to keep them topped them off.

--Dave

--- In s227classassociation@..., "Mark" <Mark@...> wrote:

We sail "all year" in Nashville. Although I don't do much in the winter
anymore, we are able to keep boats in the water all year long.


----- Original Message -----
From: s227classassociation-owner@...
To: s227classassociation@...
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:54 AM
Subject: [s227classassociation] Re: Battery Size



Hi Mark

Was just going to post - I have 24's as well. Curious why you leave the
batteries on board over winter (do you store in the water?).

"Up North" I take my batteries out and trickle charge them. This will be
year 7 of using the standard wet cell marine batteries (SeaVolt) brand from
Worst Marine I think. I am surprised they lasted this long...they tested
"OK" specific gravity wise - but they are on the edge so to speak.

--- In s227classassociation@..., "Mark" <Mark@> wrote:
>
> I went back out and was able to get them out, they are Group 24. The
> positive posts had corroded off the top of the battery. They were only
10
> year old SeaGels from West Marine. They were good when I winterized the
> boat last Fall. I did luck out though, my company had 25 new Deka
> Intimidator AGM batteries in stock so I have them in the trunk ready to
take
> them back tomorrow. I only live about a mile from my boat which is nice
> when I forget tools and beer!
>
>
>
> Well, I finally got to go to my boat today and clean it up for the first
> time this year. My batteries are dead and I need to get a couple new
ones.
> I am recovering from back surgery and just couldn't climb down there to
> check
> them out. Does anybody recall what size the batteries are the fit
between
> the fuel tank and the engine compartment on the original design 27? I am
> thinking group 27 or 31??
>
> Mark
> Nashville
> S2-27 #15
>


Re: Another 1GM10 question...

 

Hey Dave

I lightly grease the impeller - tips and sides, and the gasket.

Just got in the water last nite. But have issues with my mooring location...never ends..

Rick

--- In s227classassociation@..., "uswa174" <uswa174@...> wrote:

When you replace your water pump impeller, do you lightly grease the paper gasket, or not?

Thanks in advance for your responses!

--Dave

PS. As Bones said in Star Trek: "I'm a doctor, not a bricklayer!" Well, I'm a sailor, not a diesel mechanic.


Another 1GM10 question...

 

When you replace your water pump impeller, do you lightly grease the paper gasket, or not?

Thanks in advance for your responses!

--Dave

PS. As Bones said in Star Trek: "I'm a doctor, not a bricklayer!" Well, I'm a sailor, not a diesel mechanic.


Re: Battery Size

 

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We sail "all year" in Nashville.? Although I don't do much in the winter anymore, we are able to keep boats in the water all year long.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:54 AM
Subject: [s227classassociation] Re: Battery Size

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Hi Mark

Was just going to post - I have 24's as well. Curious why you leave the batteries on board over winter (do you store in the water?).

"Up North" I take my batteries out and trickle charge them. This will be year 7 of using the standard wet cell marine batteries (SeaVolt) brand from Worst Marine I think. I am surprised they lasted this long...they tested "OK" specific gravity wise - but they are on the edge so to speak.

--- In s227classassociation@..., "Mark" wrote:
>
> I went back out and was able to get them out, they are Group 24. The
> positive posts had corroded off the top of the battery. They were only 10
> year old SeaGels from West Marine. They were good when I winterized the
> boat last Fall. I did luck out though, my company had 25 new Deka
> Intimidator AGM batteries in stock so I have them in the trunk ready to take
> them back tomorrow. I only live about a mile from my boat which is nice
> when I forget tools and beer!
>
>
>
> Well, I finally got to go to my boat today and clean it up for the first
> time this year. My batteries are dead and I need to get a couple new ones.
> I am recovering from back surgery and just couldn't climb down there to
> check
> them out. Does anybody recall what size the batteries are the fit between
> the fuel tank and the engine compartment on the original design 27? I am
> thinking group 27 or 31??
>
> Mark
> Nashville
> S2-27 #15
>


Re: Battery Size

 

Hi Mark

Was just going to post - I have 24's as well. Curious why you leave the batteries on board over winter (do you store in the water?).

"Up North" I take my batteries out and trickle charge them. This will be year 7 of using the standard wet cell marine batteries (SeaVolt) brand from Worst Marine I think. I am surprised they lasted this long...they tested "OK" specific gravity wise - but they are on the edge so to speak.

--- In s227classassociation@..., "Mark" <Mark@...> wrote:

I went back out and was able to get them out, they are Group 24. The
positive posts had corroded off the top of the battery. They were only 10
year old SeaGels from West Marine. They were good when I winterized the
boat last Fall. I did luck out though, my company had 25 new Deka
Intimidator AGM batteries in stock so I have them in the trunk ready to take
them back tomorrow. I only live about a mile from my boat which is nice
when I forget tools and beer!



Well, I finally got to go to my boat today and clean it up for the first
time this year. My batteries are dead and I need to get a couple new ones.
I am recovering from back surgery and just couldn't climb down there to
check
them out. Does anybody recall what size the batteries are the fit between
the fuel tank and the engine compartment on the original design 27? I am
thinking group 27 or 31??

Mark
Nashville
S2-27 #15


Re: Battery Size

 

I went back out and was able to get them out, they are Group 24. The
positive posts had corroded off the top of the battery. They were only 10
year old SeaGels from West Marine. They were good when I winterized the
boat last Fall. I did luck out though, my company had 25 new Deka
Intimidator AGM batteries in stock so I have them in the trunk ready to take
them back tomorrow. I only live about a mile from my boat which is nice
when I forget tools and beer!



Well, I finally got to go to my boat today and clean it up for the first
time this year. My batteries are dead and I need to get a couple new ones.
I am recovering from back surgery and just couldn't climb down there to
check
them out. Does anybody recall what size the batteries are the fit between
the fuel tank and the engine compartment on the original design 27? I am
thinking group 27 or 31??

Mark
Nashville
S2-27 #15


Battery Size

 

Well, I finally got to go to my boat today and clean it up for the first
time this year. My batteries are dead and I need to get a couple new ones.
I am recovering from back surgery and just couldn't climb down ther to check
them out. Does anybody recall what size the batteries are the fit between
the fuel tank and the engine compartment on the original design 27? I am
thinking group 27 or 31??

Mark
Nashville
S2-27 #15


Re: Anyone start commissioning yet?

 

Commissioned the diesel this past weekend....started on the first crank...perhaps a good sign for the year.

--- In s227classassociation@..., Mark Swart <mark_swart@...> wrote:

We will be racing in New Mexico-- highs in the 70s : ) !

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Re: Anyone start commissioning yet?

Mark Swart
 

We will be racing in New Mexico-- highs in the 70s : ) !

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From: sailjw ;
To: ;
Subject: [s227classassociation] Re: Anyone start commissioning yet?
Sent: Fri, Apr 5, 2013 7:40:03 PM

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Not to rub it in but tomorrow I'll be sailing in Sunny conditions w/ high of 70 light winds. Advantages of living in the South.
Bill

--- In s227classassociation@..., "Dave S." wrote:
>
> I delayed, too.?? We just had "ice-out " on Lake Michigan about 3 weeks ago, and the water temp was reported on the radio this morning as 38 degrees F.?? The marina where I keep my boat opens on Monday.?? Brrrr....
> ??
> Dave S.
> s/v Clio
> 1987 S2 27, hull #80
> ??

> ??-----Original Message-----
> From: "" [s227classassociation-owner@...]
> Date: 03/29/2013 07:51 AM
> To: ""
> Subject: [s227classassociation] Anyone start commissioning yet?
>
> ??I delayed mine 2 weeks due to the cold....
> ??
> ??
>


Re: Anyone start commissioning yet?

 

Not to rub it in but tomorrow I'll be sailing in Sunny conditions w/ high of 70 light winds. Advantages of living in the South.
Bill

--- In s227classassociation@..., "Dave S." <uswa174@...> wrote:

I delayed, too.?? We just had "ice-out " on Lake Michigan about 3 weeks ago, and the water temp was reported on the radio this morning as 38 degrees F.?? The marina where I keep my boat opens on Monday.?? Brrrr....
??
Dave S.
s/v Clio
1987 S2 27, hull #80
??
??-----Original Message-----
From: "" [s227classassociation-owner@...]
Date: 03/29/2013 07:51 AM
To: ""
Subject: [s227classassociation] Anyone start commissioning yet?

??I delayed mine 2 weeks due to the cold....
??
??


Re: Anyone start commissioning yet?

 

I delayed, too.? We just had "ice-out " on Lake Michigan about 3 weeks ago, and the water temp was reported on the radio this morning as 38 degrees F.? The marina where I keep my boat opens on Monday.? Brrrr....
?
Dave S.
s/v Clio
1987 S2 27, hull #80
?
?

-----Original Message-----
From: "" [s227classassociation-owner@...]
Date: 03/29/2013 07:51 AM
To: ""
Subject: [s227classassociation] Anyone start commissioning yet?

?

I delayed mine 2 weeks due to the cold....
?

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Re: Anyone start commissioning yet?

 

This weekend is the start for us.

Bob


Anyone start commissioning yet?

 

I delayed mine 2 weeks due to the cold....


Re: Sealing the Toe Rail

 

I must admit I have done little in the past to try and stop the black streaking(seemed like a lot of work). But I did work on it this past weekend(and it was a lot of work). I used a metal cleaner/wax to hopefully get rid of some of the oxidation and followed up with a metal sealer. The rail looks good, just have to give it a few weeks and a few rains to see if it helps with the streaking. I'll let you know. For those of you who are snow bound I hate to tell you I was working on the boat at the dock in 60 to 65 degrees last weekend. Of course its 45 this weekend but no snow down south.
Bill

--- In s227classassociation@..., "Mark" <Mark@...> wrote:

I wipe the toe rail down with Penetrol a couple times a year. It makes it
nice and black, seals them and lasts several months. I do it on a hot sunny
day so it will dry quickly.

Mark
Nashville
Hull #15



Bill, sorry for delay..digging out from the 35 inches of snow we received
last weekend...tired of shoveling driveway, roof, etc...

Re the "weeping toe rails" i feel your frustration...i haven't found any
solution. and its a pain to clean off after the boat as been sitting on the
hard for 6 months...i thought of doing a really deep cleaning of the tos
rail..with a toothbrush...amd the maybe waxing the rail to see of that
helps.. might try it on a section of the rail, if it works....

thx for posting pictures.

--- In s227classassociation@..., "sailjw" wrote:

Rick
For the last 4 years I have sailed on Lake Keowee in SC. Before that the
boat was on Lake Lanier north of Atlanta GA. I have enjoyed the boat and
even when I was tempted to up size I keeping coming back to the quality of
the S2 27. Overall a very good boat and the right size for lake sailing.
Just enough room for a weekend stay. I put a couple of photos on the site
under Dream Unfolding the boats name. One pressing question I have is has
anyone found a way to keep the black toe rail from bleeding black on the
hull after it rains. Thanks
Bill

--- In s227classassociation@...,
s227classassociation-owner@... wrote:

Bill - welcome to the group. Good to hear you have been a long-time
owner of hull #44 - i am sure you can contribute much to the site.

Take a look at the photos and file section for more info.

Where do you sail?

Rick



--- In s227classassociation@..., "sailjw" wrote:

Glad to see there is a group of S2 27 owners. I have owned hull # 44
since 1998. Has been fresh water sailed. Have enjoyed the boat and
have a lot of miles under her keel thru the years both racing and
cruising.
Bill


Sealing the Toe Rail

 

I wipe the toe rail down with Penetrol a couple times a year. It makes it
nice and black, seals them and lasts several months. I do it on a hot sunny
day so it will dry quickly.

Mark
Nashville
Hull #15



Bill, sorry for delay..digging out from the 35 inches of snow we received
last weekend...tired of shoveling driveway, roof, etc...

Re the "weeping toe rails" i feel your frustration...i haven't found any
solution. and its a pain to clean off after the boat as been sitting on the
hard for 6 months...i thought of doing a really deep cleaning of the tos
rail..with a toothbrush...amd the maybe waxing the rail to see of that
helps.. might try it on a section of the rail, if it works....

thx for posting pictures.

--- In s227classassociation@..., "sailjw" wrote:

Rick
For the last 4 years I have sailed on Lake Keowee in SC. Before that the
boat was on Lake Lanier north of Atlanta GA. I have enjoyed the boat and
even when I was tempted to up size I keeping coming back to the quality of
the S2 27. Overall a very good boat and the right size for lake sailing.
Just enough room for a weekend stay. I put a couple of photos on the site
under Dream Unfolding the boats name. One pressing question I have is has
anyone found a way to keep the black toe rail from bleeding black on the
hull after it rains. Thanks
Bill

--- In s227classassociation@...,
s227classassociation-owner@... wrote:

Bill - welcome to the group. Good to hear you have been a long-time
owner of hull #44 - i am sure you can contribute much to the site.

Take a look at the photos and file section for more info.

Where do you sail?

Rick



--- In s227classassociation@..., "sailjw" wrote:

Glad to see there is a group of S2 27 owners. I have owned hull # 44
since 1998. Has been fresh water sailed. Have enjoyed the boat and
have a lot of miles under her keel thru the years both racing and
cruising.
Bill


Re: New to group

 

Bill, sorry for delay..digging out from the 35 inches of snow we received last weekend...tired of shoveling driveway, roof, etc...

Re the "weeping toe rails" i feel your frustration...i haven't found any solution. and its a pain to clean off after the boat as been sitting on the hard for 6 months...i thought of doing a really deep cleaning of the tos rail..with a toothbrush...amd the maybe waxing the rail to see of that helps.. might try it on a section of the rail, if it works....

thx for posting pictures.

--- In s227classassociation@..., "sailjw" <sailjw@...> wrote:

Rick
For the last 4 years I have sailed on Lake Keowee in SC. Before that the boat was on Lake Lanier north of Atlanta GA. I have enjoyed the boat and even when I was tempted to up size I keeping coming back to the quality of the S2 27. Overall a very good boat and the right size for lake sailing. Just enough room for a weekend stay. I put a couple of photos on the site under Dream Unfolding the boats name. One pressing question I have is has anyone found a way to keep the black toe rail from bleeding black on the hull after it rains. Thanks
Bill

--- In s227classassociation@..., s227classassociation-owner@... wrote:

Bill - welcome to the group. Good to hear you have been a long-time owner of hull #44 - i am sure you can contribute much to the site.

Take a look at the photos and file section for more info.

Where do you sail?

Rick



--- In s227classassociation@..., "sailjw" wrote:

Glad to see there is a group of S2 27 owners. I have owned hull # 44 since 1998. Has been fresh water sailed. Have enjoyed the boat and have a lot of miles under her keel thru the years both racing and cruising.
Bill


Re: New to group

 

Rick
For the last 4 years I have sailed on Lake Keowee in SC. Before that the boat was on Lake Lanier north of Atlanta GA. I have enjoyed the boat and even when I was tempted to up size I keeping coming back to the quality of the S2 27. Overall a very good boat and the right size for lake sailing. Just enough room for a weekend stay. I put a couple of photos on the site under Dream Unfolding the boats name. One pressing question I have is has anyone found a way to keep the black toe rail from bleeding black on the hull after it rains. Thanks
Bill

--- In s227classassociation@..., s227classassociation-owner@... wrote:

Bill - welcome to the group. Good to hear you have been a long-time owner of hull #44 - i am sure you can contribute much to the site.

Take a look at the photos and file section for more info.

Where do you sail?

Rick



--- In s227classassociation@..., "sailjw" wrote:

Glad to see there is a group of S2 27 owners. I have owned hull # 44 since 1998. Has been fresh water sailed. Have enjoyed the boat and have a lot of miles under her keel thru the years both racing and cruising.
Bill


Re: AutoHelm 800

 

Hi Dave (and Mark)

No problem - thanks for getting back to me. I really would like to mount it on the coming as it will result in one less thing to remove when de-mounting the auto tiller. With the cantilever you have that metal bar sticking out...but given that I got the unit so cheap- what's another $75....or maybe less when Defender has their big sale end of March...(a trip I make on annual basis...)

--- In s227classassociation@..., "uswa174" wrote:

Hi Rick,

I, too, have a cantilever mount for my ST4000. I've posted a picture of my Autohelm tiller bracket in the "Photos" section in the "Autohelm" folder. The pin on the tiller bracket is 18" from the rudder pivot point, which is important for the proper throw of the ram. The cantelever "peg" (threaded rod) was too long when I bought it, so I cut it with a hacksaw to about a 2" length. The mounting socket which the threaded rod screws into is mounted flat on the angled part of the vertical coaming with three through-bolts with a backing plate and some 3M 4200. When screwed in, the rod itself is angled upward a few degrees upward from horizontal...it doesn't really matter, though, since the attachment rod on the end of the ram (which fits into the hole on the cantelever rod) has the ability to pivot. Just make absolutely sure that the hole in the threaded rod is up and square.

The downside to this mounting scheme is that the starboard lazarette lid doesn't open completely because the mounting socket sticks out 1/2" or so, and blocks it. That doesn't bother me; I simply bungee it up when I need to climb down there.

Hope this is clear, and that it helps somewhat.
Sorry about the tardy response to your original message.

___________________
Dave S.
s/v Clio
1987 S2 27, hull #80


--- In s227classassociation@..., "uswa174" wrote:

I have an ST4000 on Clio. Based on my experience, you'll be asking, "Why didn't I do this sooner?" An AutoHelm is a fantastic addition to any boat, ranking right behind a roller furler, IMHO. Just don't fall off the boat when you are singlehanding and the AutoHelm is working...that would be a really bad deal...suffice it to say, I am careful not to let that happen. :)
___________________
Dave S.
s/v Clio
1987 S2 27, hull #80



--- In s227classassociation@..., "s227classassociation" wrote:

Did i mention i picked up an AutoHelm 800 recently? $80.00 from an older gent at the club. have an existing cantilever mount, tiller bracket and power outlet, but not the cantilever bracket and pushrod extension.

i look forward to using it next year...tired of the fire drill when singlehanded and trying to wrestle the main as the boat pirouettes all over the place...