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"Overall, who makes the best quality motorcycle shocks?¡±?

Ohlins shocks for 90S?. What?

I quite agree with Mac, with a different approach or point o view

The questions are more likely for each of us who ask them selves:

-¡°With what shocks do I feel more secure/safe?¡± Riding alone? With passenger? Plus luggage?

- ¡°What ride or driving level do I have?. Yeah, I have 1 million miles but that does not mean you know how to drive fast and feel
difference between Ohlins and Konis or whatever

- Do I enter/initiate, ¡°negotiate¡± and leave long curves at 100 mph?. 80 mph? 65 mph? You just go in and out?

- What happens when I touch/ drag my irons-my bike/footsteps on the road while bending curves??

- Do I only drive on public roads? Tracks?.

Yes, I have done several laps with my 90S on the Nordschleife some years ago plus some more performance tracks since the early eighties so I am free to say
not many people, a minority, can say:

Ohlins are better than Konis (Ikon or whatever name) or Showas or Better¡­.

If so, it would depend on many variables, i.e., road / track conditions, weight, front forks set up, tires, wind, immaculate frame/chassis, homework done, etc

On top, we write on a bike from 1973-1976 which was not so stable¡­.most (not all) of OEM 90S start ¡°dancing" or ¡°bobbling¡± in long curves from 90/100 mph

I think the guy who said that has to ride with me at the Nordschleife, both with a 90S, and then I will tell ya how he runs and if I need Ohlins or not

Best

Tito





Alberto Ayulo Kelly
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El 3 oct 2020, a las 16:23, Mac Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@...> escribi¨®:

Harold, reference Ohlins products:
About a year ago, I came across a person who worked within the motorcycle suspension business for years so I asked him to tell me frankly, ?"Overall, who makes the best quality motorcycle shocks?" and he said it was Ohlins.

I find it is SO difficult to find objective advice about these types of things. For instance, Amazon's star ratings have a big element of falseness to them, often being "inflated" by the sellers of the products by asking, say a friend, to send in inflated ratings, or even perhaps there are folks for hire who sell the option of making the star ratings falsely inflated.

Realistically, how else can virtually ALL Amazon star ratings be 4.5?

Anyway that guy's feedback about Ohlins shocks I hope is correct :-)?
He did seem honest and legit.....?


Mac Kirkpatrick
Glenmoore, PA

"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue


On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 10:11 AM Harold <blueox25@...> wrote:
Thank you Mac,
I put Konis on my R75/5 and they were a huge improvement over the worn stock shocks.? Ohlins are great, but they are sure proud of their product!

Harold

On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 4:07 AM Mac Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@...> wrote:
Hi Harold, some time ago I bought a set of the last of the Koni shocks and fitted a set of original aluminum covers over these shocks. Koni is now out of business, but I hear good things about the company?that evidently bought the tooling from Koni and is now making shocks, it is a play on the Koni name, now Ikon

But I have no personal experience with them.

I run a set of Ohlins on my R90S but I inherited?them when they came to me on a '77 R100RS I bought, so I had Ohlins service them and fit a set of springs for my weight. I REALLY like them but I have not tried to fit the aluminum covers, likely they won't work due to the extra expansion chamber on my Ohlins shocks. But then Ohlins may offer a shock model that will fit.

Good luck!


Mac Kirkpatrick
Glenmoore, PA

"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue


On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 10:48 AM Harold <blueox25@...> wrote:
Mac,
Thanks so much for sending this out and for doing the extensive work needed to compile all of this information in one place.? I've been meaning to subscribe for a long time, and this was the nudge I needed to send some money and become a subscriber.? I made the $45 investment and enjoyed looking around Snobums resources (I've used his site before while working on Airhead projects), looked through the archived magazines, and reviewed the resources page.? When the outdoor temperature goes over 100F today, I'll retreat to my reading chair and explore some more.

I forwarded your message to my good friend, John Hermann.? I wouldn't be surprised if you are already acquainted with John.? John has accumulated over 1,000,000 miles on BMW motorcycles, owned and rode many Airheads, and has photographs of the bikes in interesting places all over the world.? His books "Motorcycle Journeys Through the Alps and Beyond" are a great resource for motorcyclists touring in the Alps and Corsica and I have used them myself when riding in Europe.? When my wife and I travel on the bike, we often visit John first and ask him for tips and interesting roads near our routes.? John is a gentleman, generous with his knowledge, and a wonderful resource.

On a different topic, my 1976 R90S is slowly coming together. Forks and brakes are finished.?? Paint is finally finished.? I now need to address the rear shocks.? The previous (original) owner installed Fox shocks that are the correct length, but look a little funny on the bike.? When I had my R75/5, the rear shocks with the covers squeeked when the springs rubbed the covers and I don't want to hear that sound.? Do you have a suggestion?

Thanks again for the nudge,
Harold Dorr





On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 9:33 PM Mac Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@...> wrote:
Greetings to all members of the R90SWorldnet. I started this group over 20 years ago, and you are therefore special?to me as?we have a long successful history together.

I would like to ask the assistance of each of you, in something that is just coming about as we speak; you are the first to know of it, in detail.

The Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners (VBMWMO) has created a new website, and I invite you to cruise around it, see


It is a very nice website. I am sure you will agree.?

However, and this will require a big leap of faith on your part, we are in the process of creating and enhancing this website such that?it will contain a HUGE amount of information about BMW motorcycles, more than you can now imagine, arranged in an easily searchable format, like no other website anywhere.

A bold statement you say? Yes it is, but we will fulfill that statement; in fact an amazing amount of information is already at a "working" website, being readied for the public's use, and collected and arranged by our webmaster as I write this email.

But we need a GREAT deal more information, in fact, we need *everything* "airhead" that is available, and we want to preserve it at our website, available for easy search by you and everyone else,?for now and especially in the future.

For instance, the Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners has reached an agreement to preserve Bob (Snowbum) Fleischer's website, at no cost to him and all future maintenance and storage costs will be taken care of. This solved a?very worrisome situation for Bob and his wife Penny, which was how to preserve Bob's tremendous website of BMW motorcycle information, without future cost or work for either of them.

To see Bob's information at our website, again click on the VBMWMO website link?

Click on Knowledge Base, where you will see a drop down menu, then click?on Snowbum's?Encyclopedia, which will open Bob's site. Note the red V of the VBMWMO in the top left corner. Each page in Bob's site now has that logo, signifying what the VBMWMO is doing and that we are committed to preserve Bob's site and all his information, for today's as well as tomorrow's vintage BMW motorcycle enthusiasts.

In the same drop down menu you will see Peter Ardeon's Technical Tips. We have reached an agreement to feature the information at Peter Ardron's UK website in a similar manner, so it is also preserved and available for today's?and tomorrow's BMW motorcycle enthusiasts.
Peter Ardron's?information will also be on our website.

Now this is where we need your assistance, the Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owner or enthusiast, to search the internet, and find ANY information:
At this time, please only work from the /5 to the end of production. So that means model?years from 1970 to 1995.

Your help in this regard would be a great assist in this endeavor and very appreciated! We literally need a link to anything that is in a digital format, so owner's manuals, service bulletins, dealer communications, electrical diagrams, engine oil circuitry, press releases, posters, travel logs, etc., the sky's the?limit.

Think of it this way; in a futuristic way, please imagine, as a future owner of a BMW airhead, what information would you like to see at a VERY easily searchable source, right at your fingertips? So for instance, do?you want to see an owner's manual for a 1923 R32? Click, and Voila! you will see it (BTW we already have that one :-) ?Yes, a LOT of work has already been completed, but far more information and work is going into this!

Want to be dazzled, impressed and see an example of the expertise?and effort that will be used to access this information at our website?
Again, go to the VBMWMO website

Click on Knowledge Base, and scroll down to Genealogy Graph and have a look. It is best if you also look at the Instructional Video.?
THAT illustrates the level of expertise that will be used to create this information and tie it together in ways that will amaze you, I promise!

SO, if you would please, search the internet and email to me, Mac Kirkpatrick at
WITH A SUBJECT OF "LINK" *only*
ANY and ALL information you can find about the 1970 to 1995 BMW motorcycle models, that being /5 to the end of airhead production.

You will be helping a very worthwhile effort, you will not believe the outcome,?AND YOU will have helped create it!

Thank you,?


Mac Kirkpatrick?
Pres, VBMWMO
Glenmoore, PA

"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue