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I'm looking at a 74 with under 30,000 Miles and I'm trying to confirm the mileage is correct. The first thing that jumped out was there are no white rings around either the speedo or tach.?
In Ian Falloon's book - BMW R90S, it says for 74 the speedo and tach featured a white outer ring. The tick marks on the speedo are the fat ones but I can't see the "W" ratio number clearly in the photos. I'm planning to see the bike today so I'll have that later.
Based on on Ian's book the VIN makes it an 06/74 build (US), which is the second to last month of US bikes.?My question is could this be legit, or did all the 74s have the white rings.
The documentation for the bike only goes back to 2005 so I can't confirm the progression of mileage prior to that.
Also, I was told the bikini fairing was replaced at some point. Again, I can't tell from the pictures if it's the 74 type with the mystery holes or a newer one, but I'll check today when I see it in person.?
Thanks,
Scott.?
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Hi Scott, one thing we all have to remember is that for BMW motorcycles, there is almost never a hard and fast rule, such as all '74 R90Ss had the white rings around the tach and speedo. After 40 odd years multiple owner's memories fade as to what work was completed, if BMW had one last bin of parts that were not called for on the next bike going down the assembly?line the parts were installed not thrown away.
Best of luck with your "look see" R90S, keep us informed please.
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 4:36 PM Scott Blaylock via <scblaylock= [email protected]> wrote: I'm looking at a 74 with under 30,000 Miles and I'm trying to confirm the mileage is correct. The first thing that jumped out was there are no white rings around either the speedo or tach.?
In Ian Falloon's book - BMW R90S, it says for 74 the speedo and tach featured a white outer ring. The tick marks on the speedo are the fat ones but I can't see the "W" ratio number clearly in the photos. I'm planning to see the bike today so I'll have that later.
Based on on Ian's book the VIN makes it an 06/74 build (US), which is the second to last month of US bikes.?My question is could this be legit, or did all the 74s have the white rings.
The documentation for the bike only goes back to 2005 so I can't confirm the progression of mileage prior to that.
Also, I was told the bikini fairing was replaced at some point. Again, I can't tell from the pictures if it's the 74 type with the mystery holes or a newer one, but I'll check today when I see it in person.?
Thanks,
Scott.?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Scott Blaylock via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 12:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [R90SWORLDNET] 74 R90S Instruments without White Outer Rings #'squestion ? I'm looking at a 74 with under 30,000 Miles and I'm trying to confirm the mileage is correct. The first thing that jumped out was there are no white rings around either the speedo or tach.?
In Ian Falloon's book - BMW R90S, it says for 74 the speedo and tach featured a white outer ring. The tick marks on the speedo are the fat ones but I can't see the "W" ratio number clearly in the photos. I'm planning to see the bike today so I'll have that later.
Based on on Ian's book the VIN makes it an 06/74 build (US), which is the second to last month of US bikes.?My question is could this be legit, or did all the 74s have the white rings.
¡¡¡¡¡¡.. Another item re, instruments:
The 1974 only had white squares all around. 'Bum -- Robert (Snowbum) Fleischer, Carson City, NV, USA
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Hi Mac,,? You sent this email to the wrong Scott.? ?I'm Scott Butler from NH.
On another note.? Is anyone planning a 50th anniversary get together in 3 years???
Scott Butler
On Thursday, July 23, 2020, 04:43:40 PM EDT, Mac Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@...> wrote:
Hi Scott, one thing we all have to remember is that for BMW motorcycles, there is almost never a hard and fast rule, such as all '74 R90Ss had the white rings around the tach and speedo. After 40 odd years multiple owner's memories fade as to what work was completed, if BMW had one last bin of parts that were not called for on the next bike going down the assembly?line the parts were installed not thrown away.
Best of luck with your "look see" R90S, keep us informed please.
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 4:36 PM Scott Blaylock via <scblaylock= [email protected]> wrote: I'm looking at a 74 with under 30,000 Miles and I'm trying to confirm the mileage is correct. The first thing that jumped out was there are no white rings around either the speedo or tach.?
In Ian Falloon's book - BMW R90S, it says for 74 the speedo and tach featured a white outer ring. The tick marks on the speedo are the fat ones but I can't see the "W" ratio number clearly in the photos. I'm planning to see the bike today so I'll have that later.
Based on on Ian's book the VIN makes it an 06/74 build (US), which is the second to last month of US bikes.?My question is could this be legit, or did all the 74s have the white rings.
The documentation for the bike only goes back to 2005 so I can't confirm the progression of mileage prior to that.
Also, I was told the bikini fairing was replaced at some point. Again, I can't tell from the pictures if it's the 74 type with the mystery holes or a newer one, but I'll check today when I see it in person.?
Thanks,
Scott.?
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Hi Mac,
Well the "look see" turned into, what I told my wife, "look what followed me home" (see attached). I confirmed there were no holes in the fairing, which coincides with it being replaced. I pulled the rubber from the instruments and sill no white outer rings, but the "W" ratio was correct W=1.112 so I'm thinking the 21,000 miles is correct. The bike looks very clean, which would also have me believe it's correct.?
Some background on the bike...
Owners:
It came with a large binder of documentation showing regular service all the way back to 2005. From the documentation it looks there were two owners in the Seattle area since 2005. There's a greeting card from when it changed hands that reads "Chuck, May you enjoy it as much as I have, Don". Nice gesture.
In 2010 the bike came up for sale at South Sound BMW and was bought by a gentleman in Victoria, BC. He sent it to Calgary and had around $3000 worth of work done to the bike - new clutch, carb rebuilds... brought it home and only put 104 miles on it.
In 2016 it was sold to another gentleman in Victoria who replaced the battery and didn't drive it once.
Equipment:
In 2007 the bike had an Omega 400 w Alternator and a Dyna III installed. It has a San Jose fork brace, progressive springs, IKON shocks with Bob's BMW aluminum shrouds, NOS Krauser hard bags with the red leather Krauser key fob and a "NOS period correct BMW tank bag". The seat was replace with new foam and a gel pad and the leather was perfectly matched to the original 74 stitch pattern. The original vinyl cover and foam came with the bike as well as the original shocks.
So... now that it's in my garage here's what I'm planning to get it back to riding status:
- new battery
- replace all the fluids including the fork oil and brake fluid flush and new oil filter
- carb rebuilds
- spline lube
- check the valve clearances?
Unfortunately it's been sitting full of gas so I'll need to drain the 4 year old fuel.
Questions:
- as it hasn't been run in 4+ years, should I put a bit of oil onto the cylinders before moving the pistons?
- the oil filter is an HF 161 and looked to be crushed when I pulled it last night. Is the BMW split filter OK as a replacement?
- any other suggestions before I spark it up??
Thanks in advance and looking forward to putting some miles on the bike,
Scott
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Scott, you are on your way, congratulations!
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 12:25 PM Scott Blaylock via <scblaylock= [email protected]> wrote: Hi Mac,
Well the "look see" turned into, what I told my wife, "look what followed me home" (see attached). I confirmed there were no holes in the fairing, which coincides with it being replaced. I pulled the rubber from the instruments and sill no white outer rings, but the "W" ratio was correct W=1.112 so I'm thinking the 21,000 miles is correct. The bike looks very clean, which would also have me believe it's correct.?
Some background on the bike...
Owners:
It came with a large binder of documentation showing regular service all the way back to 2005. From the documentation it looks there were two owners in the Seattle area since 2005. There's a greeting card from when it changed hands that reads "Chuck, May you enjoy it as much as I have, Don". Nice gesture.
In 2010 the bike came up for sale at South Sound BMW and was bought by a gentleman in Victoria, BC. He sent it to Calgary and had around $3000 worth of work done to the bike - new clutch, carb rebuilds... brought it home and only put 104 miles on it.
In 2016 it was sold to another gentleman in Victoria who replaced the battery and didn't drive it once.
Equipment:
In 2007 the bike had an Omega 400 w Alternator and a Dyna III installed. It has a San Jose fork brace, progressive springs, IKON shocks with Bob's BMW aluminum shrouds, NOS Krauser hard bags with the red leather Krauser key fob and a "NOS period correct BMW tank bag". The seat was replace with new foam and a gel pad and the leather was perfectly matched to the original 74 stitch pattern. The original vinyl cover and foam came with the bike as well as the original shocks.
So... now that it's in my garage here's what I'm planning to get it back to riding status:
- new battery
- replace all the fluids including the fork oil and brake fluid flush and new oil filter
- carb rebuilds
- spline lube
- check the valve clearances?
Unfortunately it's been sitting full of gas so I'll need to drain the 4 year old fuel.
Questions:
- as it hasn't been run in 4+ years, should I put a bit of oil onto the cylinders before moving the pistons?
- the oil filter is an HF 161 and looked to be crushed when I pulled it last night. Is the BMW split filter OK as a replacement?
- any other suggestions before I spark it up??
Thanks in advance and looking forward to putting some miles on the bike,
Scott
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A very nice looking example, have fun!
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Kirk
Far away in Switzerland
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Scott Blaylock via groups.io
Sent: samedi 25 juillet 2020 18:25
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [R90SWORLDNET] 74 R90S Instruments without White Outer Rings #'squestion
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Hi Mac,
Well the "look see" turned into, what I told my wife, "look what followed me home" (see attached). I confirmed there were no holes in the fairing, which coincides with it being replaced. I pulled the rubber from the instruments and sill no white outer rings,
but the "W" ratio was correct W=1.112 so I'm thinking the 21,000 miles is correct. The bike looks very clean, which would also have me believe it's correct.?
Some background on the bike...
Owners:
It came with a large binder of documentation showing regular service all the way back to 2005. From the documentation it looks there were two owners in the Seattle area since 2005. There's a greeting card from when it changed hands that reads "Chuck, May you
enjoy it as much as I have, Don". Nice gesture.
In 2010 the bike came up for sale at South Sound BMW and was bought by a gentleman in Victoria, BC. He sent it to Calgary and had around $3000 worth of work done to the bike - new clutch, carb rebuilds... brought it home and only put 104 miles on it.
In 2016 it was sold to another gentleman in Victoria who replaced the battery and didn't drive it once.
Equipment:
In 2007 the bike had an Omega 400 w Alternator and a Dyna III installed. It has a San Jose fork brace, progressive springs, IKON shocks with Bob's BMW aluminum shrouds, NOS Krauser hard bags with the red leather Krauser key fob and a "NOS period correct BMW
tank bag". The seat was replace with new foam and a gel pad and the leather was perfectly matched to the original 74 stitch pattern. The original vinyl cover and foam came with the bike as well as the original shocks.
So... now that it's in my garage here's what I'm planning to get it back to riding status:
- new battery
- replace all the fluids including the fork oil and brake fluid flush and new oil filter
- carb rebuilds
- spline lube
- check the valve clearances?
Unfortunately it's been sitting full of gas so I'll need to drain the 4 year old fuel.
Questions:
- as it hasn't been run in 4+ years, should I put a bit of oil onto the cylinders before moving the pistons?
- the oil filter is an HF 161 and looked to be crushed when I pulled it last night. Is the BMW split filter OK as a replacement?
- any other suggestions before I spark it up??
Thanks in advance and looking forward to putting some miles on the bike,
Scott
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Congratulations she's a beauty! Cheers Mike from California
-----Original Message-----
From: "Scott Blaylock via groups.io"
Sent: Jul 25, 2020 9:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [R90SWORLDNET] 74 R90S Instruments without White Outer Rings #'squestion
Hi Mac,
Well the "look see" turned into, what I told my wife, "look what followed me home" (see attached). I confirmed there were no holes in the fairing, which coincides with it being replaced. I pulled the rubber from the instruments and sill no white outer rings, but the "W" ratio was correct W=1.112 so I'm thinking the 21,000 miles is correct. The bike looks very clean, which would also have me believe it's correct.?
Some background on the bike...
Owners:
It came with a large binder of documentation showing regular service all the way back to 2005. From the documentation it looks there were two owners in the Seattle area since 2005. There's a greeting card from when it changed hands that reads "Chuck, May you enjoy it as much as I have, Don". Nice gesture.
In 2010 the bike came up for sale at South Sound BMW and was bought by a gentleman in Victoria, BC. He sent it to Calgary and had around $3000 worth of work done to the bike - new clutch, carb rebuilds... brought it home and only put 104 miles on it.
In 2016 it was sold to another gentleman in Victoria who replaced the battery and didn't drive it once.
Equipment:
In 2007 the bike had an Omega 400 w Alternator and a Dyna III installed. It has a San Jose fork brace, progressive springs, IKON shocks with Bob's BMW aluminum shrouds, NOS Krauser hard bags with the red leather Krauser key fob and a "NOS period correct BMW tank bag". The seat was replace with new foam and a gel pad and the leather was perfectly matched to the original 74 stitch pattern. The original vinyl cover and foam came with the bike as well as the original shocks.
So... now that it's in my garage here's what I'm planning to get it back to riding status:
- new battery
- replace all the fluids including the fork oil and brake fluid flush and new oil filter
- carb rebuilds
- spline lube
- check the valve clearances?
Unfortunately it's been sitting full of gas so I'll need to drain the 4 year old fuel.
Questions:
- as it hasn't been run in 4+ years, should I put a bit of oil onto the cylinders before moving the pistons?
- the oil filter is an HF 161 and looked to be crushed when I pulled it last night. Is the BMW split filter OK as a replacement?
- any other suggestions before I spark it up??
Thanks in advance and looking forward to putting some miles on the bike,
Scott
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The split filter is fine as long as it is not the oil cooler type. Yes, oil the cylinders, and then oil the engine with spark plugs out and gas off until oil pressure light goes out. Put some rags over the spark plug holes for spray. Make sure to ground the plugs to the engine to protect the Dyna III.?
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On Jul 25, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Mike A via groups.io < malex@...> wrote:
Congratulations she's a beauty! Cheers Mike from California -----Original Message-----?
From: "Scott Blaylock via groups.io"?
Sent: Jul 25, 2020 9:25 AM?
To:?[email protected]?
Subject: Re: [R90SWORLDNET] 74 R90S Instruments without White Outer Rings #'squestion?
Hi Mac,
Well the "look see" turned into, what I told my wife, "look what followed me home" (see attached). I confirmed there were no holes in the fairing, which coincides with it being replaced. I pulled the rubber from the instruments and sill no white outer rings, but the "W" ratio was correct W=1.112 so I'm thinking the 21,000 miles is correct. The bike looks very clean, which would also have me believe it's correct.?
Some background on the bike...
Owners:
It came with a large binder of documentation showing regular service all the way back to 2005. From the documentation it looks there were two owners in the Seattle area since 2005. There's a greeting card from when it changed hands that reads "Chuck, May you enjoy it as much as I have, Don". Nice gesture.
In 2010 the bike came up for sale at South Sound BMW and was bought by a gentleman in Victoria, BC. He sent it to Calgary and had around $3000 worth of work done to the bike - new clutch, carb rebuilds... brought it home and only put 104 miles on it.
In 2016 it was sold to another gentleman in Victoria who replaced the battery and didn't drive it once.
Equipment:
In 2007 the bike had an Omega 400 w Alternator and a Dyna III installed. It has a San Jose fork brace, progressive springs, IKON shocks with Bob's BMW aluminum shrouds, NOS Krauser hard bags with the red leather Krauser key fob and a "NOS period correct BMW tank bag". The seat was replace with new foam and a gel pad and the leather was perfectly matched to the original 74 stitch pattern. The original vinyl cover and foam came with the bike as well as the original shocks.
So... now that it's in my garage here's what I'm planning to get it back to riding status:
- new battery
- replace all the fluids including the fork oil and brake fluid flush and new oil filter
- carb rebuilds
- spline lube
- check the valve clearances?
Unfortunately it's been sitting full of gas so I'll need to drain the 4 year old fuel.
Questions:
- as it hasn't been run in 4+ years, should I put a bit of oil onto the cylinders before moving the pistons?
- the oil filter is an HF 161 and looked to be crushed when I pulled it last night. Is the BMW split filter OK as a replacement?
- any other suggestions before I spark it up??
Thanks in advance and looking forward to putting some miles on the bike,
Scott
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Thanks to everyone for the well wishes. Looking forward to getting her on the road.
Thanks Richard for the info. I probably wouldn't have remembered to ground the plugs, which would have been a bad start to my ownership.
Scott.
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Scott Blaylock
