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Hi Group
I realize this is a little off base to pure R90S discussion, but cannot think of a better group to pose this question to.
My wife and I are looking to do some longer trips than we usually take with the R90S, and I am trying to decide which BMW models would be best for these rides. We like back roads along and live on the West Coast with mountains and coasts.?
I would love to hear the group thoughts regarding the best models?that would be comfortable for 2-up riding over longer trips and varied landscapes.
Thanks in advance,
Denny


 

Dennis, we regularly enjoy traveling on our 2009 R1200GS. It is my personal preference to not buy another BMW motorcycle. Our 1200GS and R90s have more miles and years in their future than we do.
Harold

On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 1:50 PM Dennis Grossman <denny.grossman@...> wrote:
Hi Group
I realize this is a little off base to pure R90S discussion, but cannot think of a better group to pose this question to.
My wife and I are looking to do some longer trips than we usually take with the R90S, and I am trying to decide which BMW models would be best for these rides. We like back roads along and live on the West Coast with mountains and coasts.?
I would love to hear the group thoughts regarding the best models?that would be comfortable for 2-up riding over longer trips and varied landscapes.
Thanks in advance,
Denny


 

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I have a current R1250RS and have found it to be a wonderful sport tourer.? If you are happy with the bikini fairing on the R90S, the smallish screen on the RS will be familiar.? The modern brakes and powerful motor make a current bike easy to like, and it handles really well.? Also, the modern saddlebags don¡¯t come open on their own.? I routinely get 50mpg on the RS, while my R90S can drop under 40mpg if I¡¯m having a bit of fun.? I have a 29¡± inseam, and yet I can flatfoot the RS.?

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On the downside, all of the 1250s are heavier than the R90S, and the RS is harder to get up on the centerstand.?

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--Darryl Richman

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Sent: Monday, August 07, 2023 1:51 PM
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Subject: [R90SWORLDNET] Recommendations for Touring

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Hi Group

I realize this is a little off base to pure R90S discussion, but cannot think of a better group to pose this question to.

My wife and I are looking to do some longer trips than we usually take with the R90S, and I am trying to decide which BMW models would be best for these rides. We like back roads along and live on the West Coast with mountains and coasts.?

I would love to hear the group thoughts regarding the best models?that would be comfortable for 2-up riding over longer trips and varied landscapes.

Thanks in advance,

Denny


 

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Denny

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Looking at it from a different point and using this example. Over here, February is the hottest month of the year. I have been attending the same event since 1978 in absolutely glorious sunshine and annoying rain. The run is a round trip of 1521 miles from home. The run consists of boring straight freeways, plain secondary flat open road with high speed wide sweepers, an absolutely delightful 30 mile tight winding mountain roads and a further twisting open and tight 90 mile mountain road.

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Over this period of time bikes ridden were my R90S, R65LS, K100RS and K1100RS. All the bikes were packed with tents and beer to survive 4 days out in the bush. All bikes satisfactorily did the run without any issues. However being loaded with luggage and consistently averaging 85mph the water cooled K¡¯s were definitely less stressed in such a hot climate. The hottest run was at 118F during the day and 95F just after midnight.

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You¡¯re going on a long run facing mountains, acceleration and braking whilst carrying pillion, panniers and luggage. Any engine will have its work cut out for the run. I will not tell you which bike to bye/use, just think of mechanical sympathy.

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And don¡¯t forget the bloody postcards.

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Cheers mate

Frank

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis Grossman
Sent: 8 August 2023 6:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [R90SWORLDNET] Recommendations for Touring

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Hi Group

I realize this is a little off base to pure R90S discussion, but cannot think of a better group to pose this question to.

My wife and I are looking to do some longer trips than we usually take with the R90S, and I am trying to decide which BMW models would be best for these rides. We like back roads along and live on the West Coast with mountains and coasts.?

I would love to hear the group thoughts regarding the best models?that would be comfortable for 2-up riding over longer trips and varied landscapes.

Thanks in advance,

Denny


 

I own all three model year R90S bikes and bought a 2010 R1200GS for two up riding because of the comfort and safety it provides.?


On Mon, Aug 7, 2023, 4:50 PM Dennis Grossman <denny.grossman@...> wrote:
Hi Group
I realize this is a little off base to pure R90S discussion, but cannot think of a better group to pose this question to.
My wife and I are looking to do some longer trips than we usually take with the R90S, and I am trying to decide which BMW models would be best for these rides. We like back roads along and live on the West Coast with mountains and coasts.?
I would love to hear the group thoughts regarding the best models?that would be comfortable for 2-up riding over longer trips and varied landscapes.
Thanks in advance,
Denny


 

I have the '75 R90S, '85 K100 (owned since 1987), and 2007 1200 GSA.... I'd take the GSA for comfort, safety and packing options.


On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 8:35?AM Steve <stowne482@...> wrote:
I own all three model year R90S bikes and bought a 2010 R1200GS for two up riding because of the comfort and safety it provides.?

On Mon, Aug 7, 2023, 4:50 PM Dennis Grossman <denny.grossman@...> wrote:
Hi Group
I realize this is a little off base to pure R90S discussion, but cannot think of a better group to pose this question to.
My wife and I are looking to do some longer trips than we usually take with the R90S, and I am trying to decide which BMW models would be best for these rides. We like back roads along and live on the West Coast with mountains and coasts.?
I would love to hear the group thoughts regarding the best models?that would be comfortable for 2-up riding over longer trips and varied landscapes.
Thanks in advance,
Denny



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On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 05:50 PM, Dennis Grossman wrote:
... trying to decide which BMW models would be best for these rides. We like back roads along and live on the West Coast with mountains and coasts.?
... comfortable for 2-up riding over longer trips and varied landscapes.
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Dennis, if you are doing paved roads then, in my opinion from riding the GS, RS, and RT models, the only reason to run a GS is if you are 6' or taller and don't want to adjust an RS or RT with aftermarket pegs and bars. Otherwise, the RS provides better weather protection than the GS?and the RT is far superior to both. That is both in cold and hot weather. I've ridden a GS for a few thousand miles in mountains with sub-50F mornings and 104F+ afternoons. I really wished I'd used my RT for that trip.

Any of the water-cooled RS/RT models will be the most mainenance-free and capable rides you could pick. Less issues and less work than pre-2013 GS or 2014 RS/RT. I've owned a 2014 R1200RT and a 2019 R1250RT. Either would be perfect for my sub-6' frame in the situations you describe. There are plenty of older ones available, but the price savings, increased maintenance schedules, etc., don't warrant looking older in my opinion unless you want to stay with an Airhead. If that were the case, I'd be inclined to look at the last generation R100RS or RT. I've got a 1983 R100RS and a 1986 R80RT, both are great bikes but for two-up riding with luggage, my lazy self would take my 2019 R1250RT (or my 2014 R1200RT if I still had it) and relax and "smell the roses". In 2019 when I bought the R1250RT I put over 6,000 miles on it in approximately 5-weeks of riding, mostly through the?Appalachian?Mountains from Nova Scotia down to Birmingham, AL and back. It was always a joy to get on and ride in all kinds of weather. Gave great fuel economy when ridden frugally or even reasonably, and it hustled like an RS when trying to outruns a hurricane that I spent three days avoiding. Don't be put off by the weight difference between the GS, RS, and RT. When each is outfitted for doing two-up touring, and carrying the same fuel load, there isn't a huge difference in their total weight, and most of that is improved weather protection. Having said all that, the best bike is the one you're most comfortable with. I've done a 5,000 mile road trip on a '73 Norton 850 Commando, a couple thousand on a Suzuki GS750, several thousand on a H-D StreetGlide, etc., and been fine with them all. However, if I were doing a 1,000 mile two-up run tomorrow and had to buy a bike today for it, then I'd be looking for a 2014+ RT. YMMV

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