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Re: Whiny tach on 1976 R90/6
Thanks all for the feedback regarding the Whiny tach. ?The other day I removed the assembly and took it apart as far as I could without actually removing the hypoid gear on the shaft. ?I was able to drip some 3-1 oil at the base of the shaft and then spin the tach with my drill in reverse with a squarehead bit. ?I did this numerous times and it seems like the oil made it into the shaft and the noise went away.
I also greased the gears with a small dab of lithium grease and then a little graphite spray down the tach cable since I had it off.
I also pulled the speedo assembly since I had it all apart and did the same. ?It did seem a little dry.
I drove it for a while and the tach seems to be smooth and no noise which is good news.
Hopefully that will take care of the problem. ?I don’t think I want to attempt to remove the shaft of the tach by trying to remove the tiny circlip on that gear! ?Getting it off would be one thing. ?Getting it back on would be another!
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Shop manuals are available online. Worth pursuing. The three bolts just need to be loosened and pull up the cluster. The electrical connection is a larger than you'd expect plug secured by a tiny little screw that is easily lost. It's also not real easy to
get this plug in or out.
My tach is also clattering. Attempted cable lube unsuccessful at resolving. Outer cable covering is also dinged and the timing cover grommet is toast so I'll replace these and proceed with removing the cluster to get it serviced.?
I see the heads of 3 bolts below the cluster. I assume I disconnect the speedo and tach cables, remove the 3 bolts and go from there. There must be an electrical/warning light disconnect somewhere in the mix. Hopefully its a quick disconnect type.
Thanks for the education and resource info!
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Cross Brace Required/Pannier frame fitting
My bike did not have a cross brace, an essential part to prevent the bags from "waving" like the wings of a bird, which will lead to failure of the racks. I made one, it is U shaped with two holes drilled in the two short "legs" not all that difficult to do, it made the bags not bounce up and down at all.
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 10:27 PM Jerry Hale < halejl@...> wrote: Do all of the racks supposed to have the brace piece in the rear? I am getting ready to install some racks that came on my ‘74 before I restored it. They are black and have the rack that bolts to the cowl (I’m leaving that piece off) but they do not have that rear crossover brace. Are there problems with the racks with no rear brace and no rack?
Jerry Hale
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Re: Pannier frame fitting
The panniers move a lot if the crossbrace is not fitted.? Problem with the brace is they are hard to find unless you can make one.
Regards
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-------- Original message -------- From: Jerry Hale <halejl@...> Date: 22/03/2021 02:27 (GMT+00:00) Subject: Re: [R90SWORLDNET] Pannier frame fitting
Do all of the racks supposed to have the brace piece in the rear? I am getting ready to install some racks that came on my ‘74 before I restored it. They are black and have the rack that bolts to the cowl (I’m leaving that piece off) but they do not have that rear crossover brace. Are there problems with the racks with no rear brace and no rack? Jerry Hale
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Re: Pannier frame fitting
Do all of the racks supposed to have the brace piece in the rear? I am getting ready to install some racks that came on my ‘74 before I restored it. They are black and have the rack that bolts to the cowl (I’m leaving that piece off) but they do not have that rear crossover brace. Are there problems with the racks with no rear brace and no rack?
Jerry Hale
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Re: Pannier frame fitting
*got the panniers fitted!
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Re: Pannier frame fitting
I’ll send some pictures later this week when I’ve hit the panniers fitted and before I cut the bar!
Thanks?
Neil
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Re: Pannier frame fitting
Hi, I wouldn't cut the indicator bar until I found out what is wrong. The bar is not meant to be cut! I believe that I have the same frame, and I believe that it was made by Krauser, not BMW. These bags are also Krauser, the small ones.
Greetings from Greece Solon Molcho
On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 7:57:48 PM GMT+2, adriannurney <adriannurney@...> wrote:
Should have posted a picture with the bar on!!
-------- Original message -------- From: adriannurney <adriannurney@...> Date: 21/03/2021 17:39 (GMT+00:00) Subject: Re: [R90SWORLDNET] Pannier frame fitting
This is mine
-------- Original message -------- From: Peter B <iiiiii@...> Date: 21/03/2021 16:58 (GMT+00:00) Subject: Re: [R90SWORLDNET] Pannier frame fitting
This is how mine sit.?  Perhaps show us a picture of your frames On 22/03/2021, at 1:26 AM, WindyK via groups.io <neil.wetherall@...> wrote:
?Thanks Warren, much appreciated
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Re: Pannier frame fitting
Should have posted a picture with the bar on!!
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-------- Original message -------- From: adriannurney <adriannurney@...> Date: 21/03/2021 17:39 (GMT+00:00) Subject: Re: [R90SWORLDNET] Pannier frame fitting
This is mine
-------- Original message -------- From: Peter B <iiiiii@...> Date: 21/03/2021 16:58 (GMT+00:00) Subject: Re: [R90SWORLDNET] Pannier frame fitting
This is how mine sit.?  Perhaps show us a picture of your frames On 22/03/2021, at 1:26 AM, WindyK via groups.io <neil.wetherall@...> wrote:
?Thanks Warren, much appreciated
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Re: Pannier frame fitting
I agree. I was sorry that I fitted it but did need the extra carrying capacity at the time. I did weld up a support bracket that fitted underneath it but despite this developed two cracks in the cowling. It’s now removed and I have found a larger tank bag which would have been a better solution.? Cheers?
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On 22/03/2021, at 6:25 AM, Mac Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@...> wrote:
? A pet peeve of mine are the rear racks that also sit on the rear edge of the cosling, or worse yet, have a provision to drill into the cowling for two bolts to fit through. The cowling is not at all sturdy and easily?bent, and holy cow, now there are holes in the cowling. It's nice in concept but has a terrible ending.
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 12:58 PM Peter B < iiiiii@...> wrote: This is how mine sit.? <image0.jpeg> Perhaps show us a picture of your frames ?Thanks Warren, much appreciated
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Re: Pannier frame fitting
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-------- Original message -------- From: Peter B <iiiiii@...> Date: 21/03/2021 16:58 (GMT+00:00) Subject: Re: [R90SWORLDNET] Pannier frame fitting
This is how mine sit.?  Perhaps show us a picture of your frames On 22/03/2021, at 1:26 AM, WindyK via groups.io <neil.wetherall@...> wrote:
?Thanks Warren, much appreciated
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To answer Peter, I’m going to cut the indicator bar as Warren suggested so I’ve already started stripping the lights down. I haven’t got the rear catches fitted yet but when I do I’ll share a picture with the panniers attached.?
Thanks fo all the helpful comments?
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Re: Pannier frame fitting
Never seen one yet that hasn't cracked to the edge on both holes
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-------- Original message -------- From: Mac Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@...> Date: 21/03/2021 17:25 (GMT+00:00) Subject: Re: [R90SWORLDNET] Pannier frame fitting
A pet peeve of mine are the rear racks that also sit on the rear edge of the cosling, or worse yet, have a provision to drill into the cowling for two bolts to fit through. The cowling is not at all sturdy and easily?bent, and holy cow, now there are holes in the cowling. It's nice in concept but has a terrible ending.
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 12:58 PM Peter B < iiiiii@...> wrote: This is how mine sit.?  Perhaps show us a picture of your frames ?Thanks Warren, much appreciated
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Re: Pannier frame fitting
I have that rack as well! Thanks for tip, I’ll make sure not to load it up too much Neil Wetherall? neil.wetherall@... +44 7710 142 540
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On 21 Mar 2021, at 17:25, Mac Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@...> wrote:
? A pet peeve of mine are the rear racks that also sit on the rear edge of the cosling, or worse yet, have a provision to drill into the cowling for two bolts to fit through. The cowling is not at all sturdy and easily?bent, and holy cow, now there are holes in the cowling. It's nice in concept but has a terrible ending.
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 12:58 PM Peter B < iiiiii@...> wrote: This is how mine sit.? <image0.jpeg> Perhaps show us a picture of your frames ?Thanks Warren, much appreciated
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Re: Pannier frame fitting
A pet peeve of mine are the rear racks that also sit on the rear edge of the cosling, or worse yet, have a provision to drill into the cowling for two bolts to fit through. The cowling is not at all sturdy and easily?bent, and holy cow, now there are holes in the cowling. It's nice in concept but has a terrible ending.
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 12:58 PM Peter B < iiiiii@...> wrote: This is how mine sit.?  Perhaps show us a picture of your frames ?Thanks Warren, much appreciated
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Re: Pannier frame fitting
 A side view of the frames. I confess I made these up myself and didn’t include the curved bar over the rear shock that attaches to the rear footpeg bracket.?
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On 22/03/2021, at 5:58 AM, Peter Bath <iiiiii@...> wrote:
? This is how mine sit.? <image0.jpeg> Perhaps show us a picture of your frames On 22/03/2021, at 1:26 AM, WindyK via groups.io <neil.wetherall@...> wrote:
?Thanks Warren, much appreciated
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This is how mine sit.?  Perhaps show us a picture of your frames
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On 22/03/2021, at 1:26 AM, WindyK via groups.io <neil.wetherall@...> wrote:
?Thanks Warren, much appreciated
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Thanks Warren, much appreciated
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Re: Pannier frame fitting
There are different length bars. You can shorten yours. Plumping tube cutter.?
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I'm hoping someone can help me, I have purchased some used pannier frames for my r90s. They are black painted not chrome. The problem is that if I fit them flush with the rear fitting that sits on the rear subframe loop, the panniers clash with the indicators.
Has any one had this problem? I tried to use a threaded bar to wind out the rear of the frames but this just looks wrong and isn't a good solution to properly secure the frames. Have I got the wrong frames ?perhaps? A solution would be to reduce the length
of the indicator bar so that the indicators are closer in to the centre of the bike. Perhaps there are different length indicator bars available?
All ideas welcome,?
Thanks?
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I'm hoping someone can help me, I have purchased some used pannier frames for my r90s. They are black painted not chrome. The problem is that if I fit them flush with the rear fitting that sits on the rear subframe loop, the panniers clash with the indicators. Has any one had this problem? I tried to use a threaded bar to wind out the rear of the frames but this just looks wrong and isn't a good solution to properly secure the frames. Have I got the wrong frames ?perhaps? A solution would be to reduce the length of the indicator bar so that the indicators are closer in to the centre of the bike. Perhaps there are different length indicator bars available?
All ideas welcome,?
Thanks?
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Re: Switched power connection
Thanks Marty. I was thinking there or the starter relay.
Jerry Hale
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