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Re: White face voltmeter repair
Thanks everyone.
I’ve reached out to Terry.
Scott
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Re: 76 Forks - No bump bushes ?
I found mine the same last year in my 75. I was told the old bumpers disintegrate over time and simply disappear. I am unconvinced. I suspect a faulty rebuild. My forks certainly work better now with them in place!??
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| In stripping the forks of my new 76 R90S to replace a rod retaining bolt that had snapped when I was doing a spanner check. ?I decided to do a full fork service., I have notice that my set-up has no plastic “bump stop bush” on the top of the damper rod. The spring rests on the top of the valve. There is also no similar plastic bush below the valve to protect again full extension. The only bump stop is the “donut” in the end cap. I have Progressive springs fitted in 2002 with PVC spacers for pre-load. The bike has been well looked after and documented. It seems to have been ok like this for 20 years. ?I have all the original Progressive instructions. I have tried one of the bushes and it is a very tight fit. ?Should I just return it to having no bushes as I found it or get more bushes and shorten the pvc spacer to compensate ? Is it possible to reduce the diameter of the bush slightly without damaging their structure in the oil ? ?Thx for taking the time to read. |
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Re: R90/6 Starting problem
A test light or voltmeter at the starter relay output (either of the two terminals marked 87) will be one easy way to check the relay output…must be ~battery voltage when the push button is pressed….every time.? IF OK, then check the solenoid terminals appropriately under the starter cover area.
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dennis Grossman
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 5:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [R90SWORLDNET] R90/6 Starting problem ? Thanks for the quick response Robert. I will read through this as well as clean the relay contracts. I am maybe hearing a very faint click when I hit the starter button. ? On Mon, Apr 19, 2021, 4:54 PM Robert Fleischer dba Fleischer's Service via <snowbum=[email protected]> wrote: The most likely problems are the start button or the starting relay.? If you hear a faint click when operating the start button, but the starter does not make a loud click and start rotating, then the start relay is likely making intermittent contact.?? Usually can be fixed by opening and cleaning the contacts.
A voltmeter or test lamp will be a fast way to trace down the problem.
If you want the long version of all the possible various problems:
? ? The starter circuit (except for the /5) is very simple.? That article tells all. ? Snowbum ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dennis Grossman
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Subject: [R90SWORLDNET] R90/6 Starting problem ? I have a 74 R90/6 in addition to my 75 R90S. The start button is only occasionally engaging the starter, and it is becoming worse. All battery and ground connections are clean, and battery is charged. Panel lights come on bright, and it kicks over with full power when it does connect. I am looking for some guidance regarding where to look next.
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Thanks for the quick response Robert. I will read through this as well as clean the relay contracts. I am maybe hearing a very faint click when I hit the starter button. Denny On Mon, Apr 19, 2021, 4:54 PM Robert Fleischer dba Fleischer's Service via <snowbum= [email protected]> wrote:
The most likely problems are the start button or the starting relay.? If you hear a faint click when operating the start button, but the starter does not make a loud click and start rotating, then the start relay is likely making intermittent contact.?? Usually can be fixed by opening and cleaning the contacts.
A voltmeter or test lamp will be a fast way to trace down the problem.
If you want the long version of all the possible various problems:
? ? The starter circuit (except for the /5) is very simple.? That article tells all. ? Snowbum ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dennis Grossman
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 4:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [R90SWORLDNET] R90/6 Starting problem ? I have a 74 R90/6 in addition to my 75 R90S. The start button is only occasionally engaging the starter, and it is becoming worse. All battery and ground connections are clean, and battery is charged. Panel lights come on bright, and it kicks over with full power when it does connect. I am looking for some guidance regarding where to look next.
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Robert (Snowbum) Fleischer, Carson City, NV, USA
ABC 1843; MOA Life 17058; AMA Charter Life 73254; USCA 6504…..
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The most likely problems are the start button or the starting relay.? If you hear a faint click when operating the start button, but the starter does not make a loud click and start rotating, then the start relay is likely making intermittent contact.?? Usually can be fixed by opening and cleaning the contacts.
A voltmeter or test lamp will be a fast way to trace down the problem.
If you want the long version of all the possible various problems:
? ? The starter circuit (except for the /5) is very simple.? That article tells all. ? Snowbum ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dennis Grossman
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 4:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [R90SWORLDNET] R90/6 Starting problem ? I have a 74 R90/6 in addition to my 75 R90S. The start button is only occasionally engaging the starter, and it is becoming worse. All battery and ground connections are clean, and battery is charged. Panel lights come on bright, and it kicks over with full power when it does connect. I am looking for some guidance regarding where to look next. -- Robert (Snowbum) Fleischer, Carson City, NV, USA
ABC 1843; MOA Life 17058; AMA Charter Life 73254; USCA 6504…..
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I have a 74 R90/6 in addition to my 75 R90S. The start button is only occasionally engaging the starter, and it is becoming worse. All battery and ground connections are clean, and battery is charged. Panel lights come on bright, and it kicks over with full power when it does connect. I am looking for some guidance regarding where to look next. Thanks, Denny
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I have been running the same panasonic?
?LC-X1228P??batteries in my r90S bikes with only one replacement in 14 yrs!? Good prices on Digi-Key too.
Steve
On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 11:43 AM Martin Johnson < Dermodad@...> wrote: I had sudden battery failure recently which left me stranded. I was running a 4 yo Panasonic LC-X1228P, it gave great service; but is NLA to my search.
I found an exact replacement at my local Sam's Club: Duracell Platinum AGM ETX30LA, even listed for R90S. $120.
Both of these batteries are about 3/4 inch narrower than the stock battery; any maybe a little taller; but stock strap can be used. Most importantly, it can be installed/removed from the top if you hold your mouth just right.
It is white.
Anyway, hope this will help someone....
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Richard-
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Antonio-
He repaired several speedos for me, 3-5 years ago, at that time the charges were $95 plus parts.
His charges were reasonable, and he is a gentleman.
Do not, however, be in a rush, he services them in the order he receives them.
Ask how far out his turn-around time is, I'm sure it must vary with the season, and then perhaps double it.
For me, the turn-around time was to be 8-10 weeks, and actually turned out to be 6 months.
Best-
George
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If possible, may I ask you how much is the cost to have the voltmeter/clock repaired by Terry Vrla? Thanks a lot.
Il lunedì 19 aprile 2021, 16:57:29 CEST, Richard Chawes2 < [email protected]> ha scritto:
Can we make it a point in this club that if we offer a contact we try to include more than just a name? thank-you.
Richard Chawes
On Apr 19, 2021, at 4:41 AM, PFix via groups.io < pwfix@...> wrote:
I would second the recommendation to send it to Terry Vrla. He repaired several volt meters and clocks for me and did an excellent job.
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I had sudden battery failure recently which left me stranded. I was running a 4 yo Panasonic LC-X1228P, it gave great service; but is NLA to my search.
I found an exact replacement at my local Sam's Club: Duracell Platinum AGM ETX30LA, even listed for R90S. $120.
Both of these batteries are about 3/4 inch narrower than the stock battery; any maybe a little taller; but stock strap can be used. Most importantly, it can be installed/removed from the top if you hold your mouth just right.
It is white.
Anyway, hope this will help someone....
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If possible, may I ask you how much is the cost to have the voltmeter/clock repaired by Terry Vrla? Thanks a lot.
Il lunedì 19 aprile 2021, 16:57:29 CEST, Richard Chawes2 < [email protected]> ha scritto:
Can we make it a point in this club that if we offer a contact we try to include more than just a name? thank-you.
On Apr 19, 2021, at 4:41 AM, PFix via groups.io < pwfix@...> wrote:
I would second the recommendation to send it to Terry Vrla. He repaired several volt meters and clocks for me and did an excellent job.
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Can we make it a point in this club that if we offer a contact we try to include more than just a name? thank-you.
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On Apr 19, 2021, at 4:41 AM, PFix via groups.io < pwfix@...> wrote:
I would second the recommendation to send it to Terry Vrla. He repaired several volt meters and clocks for me and did an excellent job.
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I would second the recommendation to send it to Terry Vrla. He repaired several volt meters and clocks for me and did an excellent job.
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Terry Vrla is your man to fix it at a fair price Best regards, Kirk Ratzel
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On 18 Apr 2021, at 17:26, Richard Chawes2 <[email protected]> wrote:
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Sounds like the needle gets stuck at 10 volts due to wear or dirt in mechanism. Hook it to a 12 volt battery with alligator jumper wires and bang it against your open palm a few times, see if it frees up. if it does you can try it again on the bike for a while. I have had needles get stuck on gauges where the dial warps and catches the needle so you can look for that too. No reconmendations where to send it but surely next person will know.
Richard Chawes On Apr 18, 2021, at 5:29 AM, Kris And Scott via groups.io < svbliss2012@...> wrote:
Hello group,
I would welcome suggestions on either repairing the voltmeter myself or comments on a shop that would repair the voltmeter
problem
The voltmeter shows a 10v current when ignition on and does not show any movement after that, even at higher revs. I’ve tested the voltmeter circuit with a handheld voltmeter and a newer green face voltmeter (currently installed). Both show a higher resting current (12.6) and climbing current when the revs go up, so I’m assuming that something is amiss with the voltmeter.? I’d appreciate the groups thoughts
Thanks
Scott
76 SS R90s.?
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Just a small point...current is Amps, voltage is the reading on the meter
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Kris And Scott via groups.io" <svbliss2012@...> Date: 18/04/2021 13:29 (GMT+00:00) Subject: [R90SWORLDNET] White face voltmeter repair
Hello group,
I would welcome suggestions on either repairing the voltmeter myself or comments on a shop that would repair the voltmeter
problem
The voltmeter shows a 10v current when ignition on and does not show any movement after that, even at higher revs. I’ve tested the voltmeter circuit with a handheld voltmeter and a newer green face voltmeter (currently installed). Both show a higher resting current (12.6) and climbing current when the revs go up, so I’m assuming that something is amiss with the voltmeter.?
I’d appreciate the groups thoughts
Thanks
Scott
76 SS R90s.?
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Sounds like the needle gets stuck at 10 volts due to wear or dirt in mechanism. Hook it to a 12 volt battery with alligator jumper wires and bang it against your open palm a few times, see if it frees up. if it does you can try it again on the bike for a while. I have had needles get stuck on gauges where the dial warps and catches the needle so you can look for that too. No reconmendations where to send it but surely next person will know.
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On Apr 18, 2021, at 5:29 AM, Kris And Scott via groups.io < svbliss2012@...> wrote:
Hello group,
I would welcome suggestions on either repairing the voltmeter myself or comments on a shop that would repair the voltmeter
problem
The voltmeter shows a 10v current when ignition on and does not show any movement after that, even at higher revs. I’ve tested the voltmeter circuit with a handheld voltmeter and a newer green face voltmeter (currently installed). Both show a higher resting current (12.6) and climbing current when the revs go up, so I’m assuming that something is amiss with the voltmeter.? I’d appreciate the groups thoughts
Thanks
Scott
76 SS R90s.?
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White face voltmeter repair
Hello group,
I would welcome suggestions on either repairing the voltmeter myself or comments on a shop that would repair the voltmeter
problem
The voltmeter shows a 10v current when ignition on and does not show any movement after that, even at higher revs. I’ve tested the voltmeter circuit with a handheld voltmeter and a newer green face voltmeter (currently installed). Both show a higher resting current (12.6) and climbing current when the revs go up, so I’m assuming that something is amiss with the voltmeter.?
I’d appreciate the groups thoughts
Thanks
Scott
76 SS R90s.?
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Re: electrical troubleshooting for an R90S
hey richard, thanks for checking this out. i'm embarrassed to admit that the fault was all my own. i transposed the black solenoid and red headlight bucket leads on the relay when switching out the old relay. oh well...
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I've used the $17.95 relay from motoelekt.com on several airheads over the years and have never had one fail. They are on their web-site under the "chassis" section. Rick Jones is the owner and a nice guy to deal with, he is my go to guy for most airhead electrical items.
Kelly Ramsey
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Martin Johnson
Steve