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There is a tool I believe, available from BMW. But why buy it $$ when you are only likely to use it once? And this other method works. But that is just me, YMMV of course :-)
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
And what tool would that be?
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On Sun Jul 05 2020 09:49:27 GMT-0400 (EDT), obie311 via groups.io <obie311@...> wrote:
And what tool would that be?
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And what tool would that be?
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? Or, just use the tool specifically made for that task. Todd ? ? ? When installing?the plastic pop rivet-like fasteners that hold on the S fairing such as on an R90S, if you freeze the rivets overnight, they become stiff enough so if installed quickly, they pop right in. "After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
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Harold, can you share the name and contact info for your painter. Are you happy with the paint job. I have a second S that needs painting.
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Thanks Mac. My parts are back from the painter and attaching the windshield will be soon. I appreciate the tip. Harold Helpful idea: When installing?the plastic pop rivet-like fasteners that hold on the S fairing such as on an R90S, if you freeze the rivets overnight, they become stiff enough so if installed quickly, they pop right in.
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
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Harold, can you share the name and contact info for your painter. Are you happy with the paint job. I have a second S that needs painting.
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Thanks Mac. My parts are back from the painter and attaching the windshield will be soon. I appreciate the tip. Harold Helpful idea: When installing?the plastic pop rivet-like fasteners that hold on the S fairing such as on an R90S, if you freeze the rivets overnight, they become stiff enough so if installed quickly, they pop right in.
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
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Thanks Mac. My parts are back from the painter and attaching the windshield will be soon. I appreciate the tip. Harold
Helpful idea: When installing?the plastic pop rivet-like fasteners that hold on the S fairing such as on an R90S, if you freeze the rivets overnight, they become stiff enough so if installed quickly, they pop right in.
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
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Helpful idea: When installing?the plastic pop rivet-like fasteners that hold on the S fairing such as on an R90S, if you freeze the rivets overnight, they become stiff enough so if installed quickly, they pop right in.
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
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Shops like that need to receive special historical protection.? Best Regards,
Dennis C. O'Dell Home: +49 (911) 27745370 Skype: diggertfu Hochstrasse 19 Nürnberg 90429 Germany ? "If we don't change direction soon, we'll end up where we're going." ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - Professor Irwin Corey
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On Jul 2, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Gayle Murphy < gmurphy@...> wrote: Hey group, I wanted to share this information with you all.
The odometer on my “ 75 S “ ?stopped turning recently. (59.588 miles) Tachometer needle had been getting a bit jumpy too. These gauges had never been serviced. I took them to Speedometer Service Company, in Milwaukee, phone 414-463-6660 ( 6.5 mi. From my home.) ?This is the “old school” type of shop that we all miss so much. ?Mom and Pop shop. Roger, the owner is third generation. ?Family owned and operated since 1932. ?A true time capsule. ?I dropped the gauges off at 10:00 a.m ?Tuesday morning. ?I got a call back from Roger, the next day at 11:00 a.m. ?Gauges are done and ready to go. ?I couldn’t believe the short turn around time. ?The speedometer, odometer and tach have never been as smooth. Like brand new. ?While he was at it he calibrated the speedometer. Said it was reading 8-10 miles per hour Fast. ?I knew these speedo’s had that tendency but not that much. ?Friend of mine is a retired director of R&D for Harley Davidson and he told me Harley used this company for issues that would come up from time to time. ?I strongly recommend this company. Roger knows his stuff and is fair priced. ?$270 for the service.
Hope this helps someone. ?
Happy Trails.
Gayle Murphy
In sunny Milwaukee, by the big pond.
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Quandt Family/Very Nice BMW Car Club Video
I've heard the exact same thing Tito, from many sources. And that the Quandt family still owns a great deal of BMW and they are very wealthy.
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 2:12 AM Alberto Ayulo via <ayulo.alberto= [email protected]> wrote: Thanks Mac, what a nice collection and interesting video.
Some comments
The speaker says:
1.- “…..on 1959, Bmw was bankrupt…” : Yes, certainly. 2.- “…..Bmw got back to success thanks to the 700 series …”: I do not fully agree.
On (1): Herbert Quandt / Quandt family had a important stake at Daimler Benz and during the 1959 General or Extraordinay Shareholders meeting, were Bmw was being sold by bankers to Daimler Benz (they were interested on the sales/distribution points), Herbert managed to extend the meeting and how he convinced the minority shareholders to turn down bankers main objective and buy a majority stake at Bmw, I do no know but I was a risky decision, as the Quandt family did not agree to sell their Daimler stake to put that money onto Bmw.
On (2): The 700 series was a piece of crap, ex Glas company, anyhow, an economy vehicle for blue/white collars and so on. I think, no sure, the exGlas had a R68 engine !!. Yes, Glas had the 2.8 and 3.0 V8 at limited edition and unreliable plus the 3.2 concept. I understand Bmw had its real take-off when Motosports division was created mid-late ’70, lead by Paul Rosche and other real genius. And today Bmw still lives or sells a lot based on their sports history
Some years ago, I visited a friend bike?s collection at Malaga and he had one unit of T700.
As you all may know, the main manufacturing Bmw site is located at Dingolfing,?just were Glas had its HQ
Best
Tito.
Alberto Ayulo Kelly 649077663
El 2 jul 2020, a las 18:04, Mac Kirkpatrick < drbeemer73@...> escribió:
For anyone who owns an older BMW car, here is a very well done video from the BMW Car Club of America you can send around that is a history of BMW and of course includes some very nice motorcycles:
The BMW Car Club car also has motorcycles on display.
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
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Thanks Gayle. My gauges need service and as the “S” is in State, much easier to drive them over than shipping out of state. The bike currently resides in Plymouth. Up Nort a youse guys!
Scott
“Life is what happens when you’re busy making plans.” ~John Lennon
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Thanks Mac, what a nice collection and interesting video.
Some comments
The speaker says:
1.- “…..on 1959, Bmw was bankrupt…” : Yes, certainly. 2.- “…..Bmw got back to success thanks to the 700 series …”: I do not fully agree.
On (1): Herbert Quandt / Quandt family had a important stake at Daimler Benz and during the 1959 General or Extraordinay Shareholders meeting, were Bmw was being sold by bankers to Daimler Benz (they were interested on the sales/distribution points), Herbert managed to extend the meeting and how he convinced the minority shareholders to turn down bankers main objective and buy a majority stake at Bmw, I do no know but I was a risky decision, as the Quandt family did not agree to sell their Daimler stake to put that money onto Bmw.
On (2): The 700 series was a piece of crap, ex Glas company, anyhow, an economy vehicle for blue/white collars and so on. I think, no sure, the exGlas had a R68 engine !!. Yes, Glas had the 2.8 and 3.0 V8 at limited edition and unreliable plus the 3.2 concept. I understand Bmw had its real take-off when Motosports division was created mid-late ’70, lead by Paul Rosche and other real genius. And today Bmw still lives or sells a lot based on their sports history
Some years ago, I visited a friend bike?s collection at Malaga and he had one unit of T700.
As you all may know, the main manufacturing Bmw site is located at Dingolfing,?just were Glas had its HQ
Best
Tito.
Alberto Ayulo Kelly 649077663
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El 2 jul 2020, a las 18:04, Mac Kirkpatrick < drbeemer73@...> escribió:
For anyone who owns an older BMW car, here is a very well done video from the BMW Car Club of America you can send around that is a history of BMW and of course includes some very nice motorcycles:
The BMW Car Club car also has motorcycles on display.
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
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Thanks for the tip Gayle! Good to hear about the turn around time. Seems like every time I send something out it gets caught in the weeds.
Kelly Fry
In locked down again So CA.
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Wow, thanks Gayle, good referral for good service, thanks.
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 3:24 PM Gayle Murphy < gmurphy@...> wrote: Hey group, I wanted to share this information with you all.
The odometer on my “ 75 S “? stopped turning recently. (59.588 miles) Tachometer needle had been getting a bit jumpy too. These gauges had never been serviced. I took them to Speedometer Service Company, in Milwaukee, phone 414-463-6660 ( 6.5 mi. From my home.)? This is the “old school” type of shop that we all miss so much.? Mom and Pop shop. Roger, the owner is third generation.? Family owned and operated since 1932.? A true time capsule.? I dropped the gauges off at 10:00 a.m? Tuesday morning.? I got a call back from Roger, the next day at 11:00 a.m.? Gauges are done and ready to go.? I couldn’t believe the short turn around time.? The speedometer, odometer and tach have never been as smooth. Like brand new.? While he was at it he calibrated the speedometer. Said it was reading 8-10 miles per hour Fast.? I knew these speedo’s had that tendency but not that much.? Friend of mine is a retired director of R&D for Harley Davidson and he told me Harley used this company for issues that would come up from time to time.? I strongly recommend this company. Roger knows his stuff and is fair priced.? $270 for the service.
Hope this helps someone.?
Happy Trails.
Gayle Murphy
In sunny Milwaukee, by the big pond.
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Hey group, I wanted to share this information with you all.
The odometer on my “ 75 S “ stopped turning recently. (59.588 miles) Tachometer needle had been getting a bit jumpy too. These gauges had never been serviced. I took them to Speedometer Service Company, www.speedometersolutions.com in Milwaukee, phone 414-463-6660 ( 6.5 mi. From my home.) This is the “old school” type of shop that we all miss so much. Mom and Pop shop. Roger, the owner is third generation. Family owned and operated since 1932. A true time capsule. I dropped the gauges off at 10:00 a.m Tuesday morning. I got a call back from Roger, the next day at 11:00 a.m. Gauges are done and ready to go. I couldn’t believe the short turn around time. The speedometer, odometer and tach have never been as smooth. Like brand new. While he was at it he calibrated the speedometer. Said it was reading 8-10 miles per hour Fast. I knew these speedo’s had that tendency but not that much. Friend of mine is a retired director of R&D for Harley Davidson and he told me Harley used this company for issues that would come up from time to time. I strongly recommend this company. Roger knows his stuff and is fair priced. $270 for the service.
Hope this helps someone.
Happy Trails.
Gayle Murphy
In sunny Milwaukee, by the big pond.
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For anyone who owns an older BMW car, here is a very well done video from the BMW Car Club of America you can send around that is a history of BMW and of course includes some very nice motorcycles:
The BMW Car Club car also has motorcycles on display.
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
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Re: question regarding boring out 97mm cylinder to fit 1000cc piston
#'squestion
Andrew, R90S cylinders were painted black from the factory. As far as vibration is concerned and the weight of reciprocating parts you would have to find a machine shop to weigh each part and compare the offset of each pair of their opposite parts in the engine. That is easy to do for the right person, or find a good set of scales somewhere such as a post office or other small scale.
I do not see any numbers on my cylinders such as your -1182 numbers, I looked at 4 of my R90Ss. I do see a 9 and I think a C stamped on top of the cylinders, the 9 on the left top and the C on the top right of the cylinders.
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
al lright guys, I am back with another question.?
I disassembled my top end and was looking at the part numbers stamped on the cylinder. I found the right side is marked 731-1-1182, the left side 731-2-1182.? I do not see these as the pre 76 cylinder part number, in fact i only see reference to them on reems site as being used on a r75.? the pistons are measuring almost 90... the jugs are black, so that made me think they are/were stock.?
a bit of a riddle.?
just a background.? since the bike is about the same age as me, i am not the original owner ;) i have owned it for five years, put about 5,000 miles on it.? had some vibrations at 4500 rpm or greater, so I began to look into new top end... bought at an estate sale so I did not get the bike history from original rider. bike now has 73,000k miles.?
any theories on this little riddle...
I am guessing the black is aftermarket, and jugs were bought and bored out to work with this bike. Is it possible that the frugal Germans used a r75 part on this bike? Also, would the boring of this part to 900cc be cause for my vibrations?
again, I appreciate? your generosity of knowledge.?
Warmest regards,
Andrew?
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Hi, Andrew… ? I’ll take a stab at this but won’t claim to be 100% accurate.? My understanding is the markings on cast parts as the cylinders, heads, oil pan, etc. are casting numbers not part numbers.? They are typically embossed (raised).? I know some of Brook Reems’ info but not aware of what he provides as to casting numbers.? What you’ve found may very well be spot on and you do have odd cylinders. ? However…. what I’ve learned is to look at the top of the cylinder for a stamped (i.e. indented) digit such as a 6, 7 or 9 to indicate the original cylinder size.? 6 being 600cc, 9 being 900, etc.? You’ll typically find this near the corner of the cylinder where there is often a funky logo of the cylinder maker.? (Often a stylized KS for Kolbenchmidt…logo attached and a cylinder pic showing it at the base of the cylinder).? ? It is often hard to read the digit (unfortunately you can’t in my pic but there IS a ‘9’ there) yet a good cleaning will often make it stand out.? You can also smear it with some white paint or a marker of some sort and wipe clean to see what’s left in the depression.? That would at least tell you how the cylinder started life. ? Also, just my two cents, I’d go with the NOS cylinders and pistons if it were me.? A 1000cc R90S would have some definite “romp” to it and the Nikasil is awesome but then it’s not really an R90S anymore.? That said, I know many like to update in any way and I do it myself.? My electronic ignition is no doubt heretical to some!? J ? Good luck as you move forward on this.? I just did my first top end work myself and it’s gratifying to have that first start up reflect all the effort. ? Regards, Mike 
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Subject: Re: [R90SWORLDNET] question regarding boring out 97mm cylinder to fit 1000cc piston #'squestion ? al lright guys, I am back with another question.? I disassembled my top end and was looking at the part numbers stamped on the cylinder. I found the right side is marked 731-1-1182, the left side 731-2-1182.? I do not see these as the pre 76 cylinder part number, in fact i only see reference to them on reems site as being used on a r75.? the pistons are measuring almost 90... the jugs are black, so that made me think they are/were stock.?
a bit of a riddle.?
just a background.? since the bike is about the same age as me, i am not the original owner ;) i have owned it for five years, put about 5,000 miles on it.? had some vibrations at 4500 rpm or greater, so I began to look into new top end... bought at an estate sale so I did not get the bike history from original rider. bike now has 73,000k miles.?
any theories on this little riddle...
I am guessing the black is aftermarket, and jugs were bought and bored out to work with this bike. Is it possible that the frugal Germans used a r75 part on this bike? Also, would the boring of this part to 900cc be cause for my vibrations?
again, I appreciate? your generosity of knowledge.?
Warmest regards,
Andrew?
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Just looked at a pair of R90S cylinders in my basement waiting for a rebore. The numbers are the same as yours. Don’t know how that relates to what you found on a website. There is no way an R75 can be bored out to R90. ?I think the numbers are the factory that casts them internal numbers and not BMW part numbers. The cylinders you have are the real deal.
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On Jul 1, 2020, at 6:38 AM, andrew.romero@... wrote:
? al lright guys, I am back with another question.?
I disassembled my top end and was looking at the part numbers stamped on the cylinder. I found the right side is marked 731-1-1182, the left side 731-2-1182.? I do not see these as the pre 76 cylinder part number, in fact i only see reference to them on reems site as being used on a r75.? the pistons are measuring almost 90... the jugs are black, so that made me think they are/were stock.?
a bit of a riddle.?
just a background.? since the bike is about the same age as me, i am not the original owner ;) i have owned it for five years, put about 5,000 miles on it.? had some vibrations at 4500 rpm or greater, so I began to look into new top end... bought at an estate sale so I did not get the bike history from original rider. bike now has 73,000k miles.?
any theories on this little riddle...
I am guessing the black is aftermarket, and jugs were bought and bored out to work with this bike. Is it possible that the frugal Germans used a r75 part on this bike? Also, would the boring of this part to 900cc be cause for my vibrations?
again, I appreciate? your generosity of knowledge.?
Warmest regards,
Andrew?
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Re: question regarding boring out 97mm cylinder to fit 1000cc piston
#'squestion
al lright guys, I am back with another question.?
I disassembled my top end and was looking at the part numbers stamped on the cylinder. I found the right side is marked 731-1-1182, the left side 731-2-1182.? I do not see these as the pre 76 cylinder part number, in fact i only see reference to them on reems site as being used on a r75.? the pistons are measuring almost 90... the jugs are black, so that made me think they are/were stock.?
a bit of a riddle.?
just a background.? since the bike is about the same age as me, i am not the original owner ;) i have owned it for five years, put about 5,000 miles on it.? had some vibrations at 4500 rpm or greater, so I began to look into new top end... bought at an estate sale so I did not get the bike history from original rider. bike now has 73,000k miles.?
any theories on this little riddle...
I am guessing the black is aftermarket, and jugs were bought and bored out to work with this bike. Is it possible that the frugal Germans used a r75 part on this bike? Also, would the boring of this part to 900cc be cause for my vibrations?
again, I appreciate? your generosity of knowledge.?
Warmest regards,
Andrew?
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