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Re: Future of OW Personal Predictions and OWC
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Hi Tony, > So, for now, my suggestion still appears to be valid and I hope that you will consider it in the larger scheme of things.? I
find it quite easy to generate a list of events for my home site, > with
all the filters allowed by Occult4, it is easy and convenient.? Then,
if I create a planned event, it would be handy if OW would compare that
event to events stored in OWC and if > there is a match, to use the best
prediction to alert others in my vicinity of my planned event The way imagine this to be working in the long run is as follows: - You will not need to generate your own predictions because *ALL* predictions for events involving numbered asteroids in the next 2 months will be on OWC - Instead of getting your Personal Predictions in your OW so you can annonce, you will be getting them from OWC during synchronisation (after having subscribed for the corresponding tags) - Once you have announced your intentions to observe, the events you have dont this for, will still be available in the 'Planned Observations' feed for everyone else the way it works today (without tag subscription). - If anyone wants to publish predictions not in OWC they will be more than welcome to do that, but not as Personal Predictions, rather via OWC tagging system with appropriate tag that descibes the nature of the events they are publishing. So I am not planning on removing the Planned Observations "feed" as I think it is very valuable. I am also hoping that people will continue to want to publish/tag other predictions on OWC but this wil be now done not via Personal Predictions from OW but will be done from OWC's web site using the tagging system. In the end if everything works well people will just naturally stop generating Personal Predictions as they could find the events in OWC *or* they will start maintaining a tag on OWC. Hope this makes more sense. Hristo.
On Monday, July 12, 2021, 2:53:51 AM GMT+10, TriAstro <triastro@...> wrote:
Hristo, ? Thanks for the extensive explanation.? Now it all makes more sense.? OWC is still a major work in progress.? Only a select few have access to Tagging.? Those of us that generate our own personal predictions can still do so ¨C at leas for a while.? The display of Planned occultations in OW is still being considered. ? So, for now, my suggestion still appears to be valid and I hope that you will consider it in the larger scheme of things.? I find it quite easy to generate a list of events for my home site, with all the filters allowed by Occult4, it is easy and convenient.? Then, if I create a planned event, it would be handy if OW would compare that event to events stored in OWC and if there is a match, to use the best prediction to alert others in my vicinity of my planned event. ? Best regards, ? Tony George Scottsdale, AZ ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of hristo_dpavlov via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 12:26 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [OccultWatcher] Future of OW Personal Predictions and OWC ? Hi Tony, ? I will try to explain more about OWC and how it functions at the IOTA meeting. 'Planned Event' doesn't really fall into the idea of tags as this does not explain *why* someone has decided to observe it in first place, but there is also more to it. ? Also if everything functions OWC will always have all predictions that currently anyone could decide to publish as Personal and will also have a better (or qually good in the worst case) prediction based on JPL elements. OWC will also have eventually other non JPL based predictions as well that can be used for comparison. Based on this everything that someone currently may want to publish as a Personal prediction sould be already on OWC and a better prediction will be available there, too. So the only issue is how those events get tagged so they become visible to OW users. I would like to solve this problem first and if it is solved well there will be no need for 'Personal' predictions to be shared any longer. This is why I decided not to disrupt all people publishing Personal Predictions (as initially planned) as this is currently useful functionality and it is better to see if it can change more naturally. ? If you are interested to maintain a feed (not just personal predictions) and tag events with your own tag, this is a separare thing. Write to me directly if you are interested in this and I will include you in the first trials when I get to that point. ? This email probably doesn't answer all of your questions. I wish I could do that in a simple emial but it will take a lot more and a lot longer to explain the whole concept I have in mind. As it is also develping and changing constantly, which also makes it even harder. ? My best advice is to please give feed back on changes and features that have been already implemented and released as this will help me understand the level of usefulness they provide (or don't) and will better direct my efforts. ? Cheers, Hristo. ? ? ? On Sunday, July 11, 2021, 12:36:40 AM GMT+10, TriAstro <triastro@...> wrote: ? ? Hristo, ? I¡¯m not sure I understand your message below about automatic tagging.? Would you mean automatic tagging as a Planned Event?? I am sure that I don¡¯t understand how to make tagging work for me, so one of the reasons why I continue to make my own personal predictions.? Here is a suggestion: ? For those of us who continue to make our own personal predictions, if we post them to OW as an event we intend to observe, let OW upload it to the OWC and compare against your OWC predictions.? If there is a match, then post (tag?) your OWC prediction as a Planned Observation.? Then others, who rely on localized personal predictions can also have the benefit of both the localized prediction and OWC? ? Thanks for all the work you do. ? Tony George Scottsdale, AZ ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of hristo_dpavlov via groups.io ? Hi All, ? After further thoughts I decided to postpone the changes to Personal Predictions. ? I would like to first implement automatic tagging on OWC which could automatically publish all events that are usually published as personal predictions. If this is the case then the use of Personal Predictions for sharing predictions with others will become unnecessary as those prediction will be already available in OW, or at least this is my thinking at the moment. ? If there are still more events not tagged automatically by OWC which are published as Personal Predictions then they will form a good case for further review and consideration, but until then I will focus my efforts on different parts of OWC and OW ? Cheers, Hristo |