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From: Kevin <greenkevin01@...>
To: occultneus <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, 15 July 2024 10:18 AM EDT
Subject: Re: [OccultNEUS] Occult Problem

I get that Horizons notice frequently. It appears to be due to internet connection issues in my case. The screen is very annoying, because it halts the process until the "OK" button is clicked.

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On Monday, July 15, 2024 at 08:54:57 AM EDT, Steve C via groups.io <conard@...> wrote:

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Anyone else having an issue with refining predictions on Occult?? I'm on rev 4.2024.7.12.? When I try to go through the second round to refine the predictions using Horizons with the first list as an input, it pops up an error window saying:

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Error requesting data from Horizons

Horizons will be skipped for next 20 secs

The request was aborted:? Could not create SSL/TLS secure channel.

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This started Saturday.? I've tried rebooting, restarting Occult, etc., without success.? I guess the only thing I haven't tried yet is generating a new first list--I'll do that next.

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Thanks.

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Steve

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From: George <georvisc@...>
To: OccultNEUS <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, 15 July 2024 1:09 PM EDT
Subject: Re: [OccultNEUS] Occult Problem

Steve:

I've also seen this happen before. However I have yet to get that 3rd line - "The request was aborted: ?Could not create SSL/TLS secure channel." That sounds like an Internet connection issue and not a Horizons issue.

...And I now see there is an even newer version - 2024.7.15. I haven't tried this yet.

I recently had issues with 2024.6.30 - when I ran a User File (generated from a List & Display of initial MPC rocks) and got Horizon-based predictions for the same rocks, it would "complete" (without errors), but I got a very shortened list - only 10% as many events as I would normally get.

I could not "fix" this so I dropped back to an earlier Occult4 version that was known to give me good outputs - 2024.5.27. After reverting back, I've had NO issues.

As a last resort, you can "revert back" to a previous version of Occult4.
Over a year ago I asked Dave Herald for a way to do this and he implemented a means to revert back to previous versions.
Essentially, each time you upgrade Occult4 it stores the original .ZIP file (containing files for the update) in the folder where Occult4 lives - under the subfolder "Updates". You simply copy the Zip file of a previous "good" version to a temporary folder somewhere on your computer, unzip its contents, then copy the unzipped files to the \Occult directory (parent folder of Occult). This will overwrite the new update and revert you back to the previous good version. From then on if you see a brand new update, you can simply update to that just like you normally would.
This may get you back up and running.

Also....... Since Occult4 now is storing all the .Zip files of all past updates, to save file space on your computer you may, every now and then, go to the \Update folder and manually delete very old .ZIP files of very old past updates.

You can see how many past updates are stored on your version of Occult4 by going to the Main Page and selecting "Updates...". For me it says, "8 previous versions are in the subdirectory 'Updates' "

George