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Gents, Back in November I ordered a new Dell desktop for the ham shack.? The old desktop is still working fine, but it’s a bit long in the tooth, and I’d like to add capability for more than the two monitors I have now.? Why Dell?? Well, every computer I’ve bought for the past 20 years or more has been Dell, and they always seemed to work out OK.? ? Well, this week Dell pissed me off.? The computer I ordered was supposed to be delivered December 21 (3-4 weeks after the order).? But I was notified today that it won’t be shipped until Feb. 1.? Not the end of the world, but it just irritates me that they wait almost to delivery day to let me know they aren’t actually going to ship.? Yea, there are supply chain issues, but nothing has changed in the past three weeks, and Dell had to see this coming before today. Generally my response to issues like this is simply to cancel the order and never do business again with companies that jerk me around. So, my inclination is to buy from someone else.? ?I get it that it will probably be Feb 1 or later by the time I get one from someone else, but at least it would be from someone pleasant to do business with.? ? So, with that possibility in mind, is there another computer maker out there as good as or better than Dell and will let you customize what you want?? Any brands to especially avoid?? ?? ? Dave UW
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Dave,
I have always had good luck with Microcenter. They have folks on site that can help you configure what you want and you know right away if it is in stock. ?I have used there boxes for years.? Eric Howell Erhowell@... ??
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On Dec 17, 2021, at 11:56 PM, Dave Moss <davemoss@...> wrote:
? Gents, Back in November I ordered a new Dell desktop for the ham shack.? The old desktop is still working fine, but it’s a bit long in the tooth, and I’d like to add capability for more than the two monitors I have now.? Why Dell?? Well, every computer I’ve bought for the past 20 years or more has been Dell, and they always seemed to work out OK.? ? Well, this week Dell pissed me off.? The computer I ordered was supposed to be delivered December 21 (3-4 weeks after the order).? But I was notified today that it won’t be shipped until Feb. 1.? Not the end of the world, but it just irritates me that they wait almost to delivery day to let me know they aren’t actually going to ship.? Yea, there are supply chain issues, but nothing has changed in the past three weeks, and Dell had to see this coming before today. Generally my response to issues like this is simply to cancel the order and never do business again with companies that jerk me around. So, my inclination is to buy from someone else.? ?I get it that it will probably be Feb 1 or later by the time I get one from someone else, but at least it would be from someone pleasant to do business with.? ? So, with that possibility in mind, is there another computer maker out there as good as or better than Dell and will let you customize what you want?? Any brands to especially avoid?? ?? ? Dave UW
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I agree with Eric on Microcenter, and if you are looking for an alternative maufacturer to Dell, then I'd recommend HP.
On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 8:00, Eric Howell <erhowell@...> wrote: Dave,
I have always had good luck with Microcenter. They have folks on site that can help you configure what you want and you know right away if it is in stock. ?I have used there boxes for years.? Eric Howell Erhowell@... ??
On Dec 17, 2021, at 11:56 PM, Dave Moss <davemoss@...> wrote:
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Gents, Back in November I ordered a new Dell desktop for the ham shack.? The old desktop is still working fine, but it’s a bit long in the tooth, and I’d like to add capability for more than the two monitors I have now.? Why Dell?? Well, every computer I’ve bought for the past 20 years or more has been Dell, and they always seemed to work out OK.? ? Well, this week Dell pissed me off.? The computer I ordered was supposed to be delivered December 21 (3-4 weeks after the order).? But I was notified today that it won’t be shipped until Feb. 1.? Not the end of the world, but it just irritates me that they wait almost to delivery day to let me know they aren’t actually going to ship.? Yea, there are supply chain issues, but nothing has changed in the past three weeks, and Dell had to see this coming before today. Generally my response to issues like this is simply to cancel the order and never do business again with companies that jerk me around. So, my inclination is to buy from someone else.? ?I get it that it will probably be Feb 1 or later by the time I get one from someone else, but at least it would be from someone pleasant to do business with.? ? So, with that possibility in mind, is there another computer maker out there as good as or better than Dell and will let you customize what you want?? Any brands to especially avoid?? ?? ? Dave UW
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The supply chain disruptions are just getting started.
Don't cancel your order.
I think this is something we are going to learn to live with for the next 2 years or so.
Dell is good, especially the?pro-grade stuff.
I generally build my own "white box" computer, but you and I have different relationships with computers.? I like ASUS motherboards with Intel CPUs.? For your hamshack, you want?a i7 or i9 processor, probably.? Get 16 GB of memory and solid-state disk.??
Jeff
On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 11:56 PM Dave Moss < davemoss@...> wrote: Gents, Back in November I ordered a new Dell desktop for the ham shack.? The old desktop is still working fine, but it’s a bit long in the tooth, and I’d like to add capability for more than the two monitors I have now.? Why Dell?? Well, every computer I’ve bought for the past 20 years or more has been Dell, and they always seemed to work out OK.? ? Well, this week Dell pissed me off.? The computer I ordered was supposed to be delivered December 21 (3-4 weeks after the order).? But I was notified today that it won’t be shipped until Feb. 1.? Not the end of the world, but it just irritates me that they wait almost to delivery day to let me know they aren’t actually going to ship.? Yea, there are supply chain issues, but nothing has changed in the past three weeks, and Dell had to see this coming before today. Generally my response to issues like this is simply to cancel the order and never do business again with companies that jerk me around. So, my inclination is to buy from someone else.? ?I get it that it will probably be Feb 1 or later by the time I get one from someone else, but at least it would be from someone pleasant to do business with.? ? So, with that possibility in mind, is there another computer maker out there as good as or better than Dell and will let you customize what you want?? Any brands to especially avoid?? ?? ? Dave UW
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Go to MicroCenter.? They can sell you machines by various manufacturers.? ??And, if you want real personalization they will build what you want from scratch. ? 
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Jeff Otterson Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2021 10:15 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [N4N-Field-Day] Computers ? The supply chain disruptions are just getting started. I think this is something we are going to learn to live with for the next 2 years or so. Dell is good, especially the?pro-grade stuff. I generally build my own "white box" computer, but you and I have different relationships with computers.? I like ASUS motherboards with Intel CPUs.? For your hamshack, you want?a i7 or i9 processor, probably.? Get 16 GB of memory and solid-state disk.?? ? On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 11:56 PM Dave Moss <davemoss@...> wrote: Gents, Back in November I ordered a new Dell desktop for the ham shack.? The old desktop is still working fine, but it’s a bit long in the tooth, and I’d like to add capability for more than the two monitors I have now.? Why Dell?? Well, every computer I’ve bought for the past 20 years or more has been Dell, and they always seemed to work out OK.? ? Well, this week Dell pissed me off.? The computer I ordered was supposed to be delivered December 21 (3-4 weeks after the order).? But I was notified today that it won’t be shipped until Feb. 1.? Not the end of the world, but it just irritates me that they wait almost to delivery day to let me know they aren’t actually going to ship.? Yea, there are supply chain issues, but nothing has changed in the past three weeks, and Dell had to see this coming before today. Generally my response to issues like this is simply to cancel the order and never do business again with companies that jerk me around. So, my inclination is to buy from someone else.? ?I get it that it will probably be Feb 1 or later by the time I get one from someone else, but at least it would be from someone pleasant to do business with.? ? So, with that possibility in mind, is there another computer maker out there as good as or better than Dell and will let you customize what you want?? Any brands to especially avoid?? ?? ? Dave UW
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I get a discount from Lenovo,? My newest machine is a I9, 32GB Memory, 1 Terabyte SSD.? Connected to a 100MB Internet.? It flies.? Sometime finishing before I start?? ? Wonder how it compares to a IBM 165 of the 70’s? ? Tommy Da C KT4XN ? Sent from for Windows ?
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From: Jeff OttersonSent: Saturday, December 18, 2021 10:15 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [N4N-Field-Day] Computers ? The supply chain disruptions are just getting started. I think this is something we are going to learn to live with for the next 2 years or so. Dell is good, especially the?pro-grade stuff. I generally build my own "white box" computer, but you and I have different relationships with computers.? I like ASUS motherboards with Intel CPUs.? For your hamshack, you want?a i7 or i9 processor, probably.? Get 16 GB of memory and solid-state disk.?? ? On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 11:56 PM Dave Moss <davemoss@...> wrote: Gents, Back in November I ordered a new Dell desktop for the ham shack.? The old desktop is still working fine, but it’s a bit long in the tooth, and I’d like to add capability for more than the two monitors I have now.? Why Dell?? Well, every computer I’ve bought for the past 20 years or more has been Dell, and they always seemed to work out OK.? ? Well, this week Dell pissed me off.? The computer I ordered was supposed to be delivered December 21 (3-4 weeks after the order).? But I was notified today that it won’t be shipped until Feb. 1.? Not the end of the world, but it just irritates me that they wait almost to delivery day to let me know they aren’t actually going to ship.? Yea, there are supply chain issues, but nothing has changed in the past three weeks, and Dell had to see this coming before today. Generally my response to issues like this is simply to cancel the order and never do business again with companies that jerk me around. So, my inclination is to buy from someone else.? ?I get it that it will probably be Feb 1 or later by the time I get one from someone else, but at least it would be from someone pleasant to do business with.? ? So, with that possibility in mind, is there another computer maker out there as good as or better than Dell and will let you customize what you want?? Any brands to especially avoid?? ?? ? Dave UW
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Dave,
I've had good luck with the Dell Outlet, they only advertise what's on the shelf.??
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Dave, if you are interested in looking at Lenovo, let me know and I’ll give you my sign on, as? retired IBMer we can share with family and friends. ? Tom ? Sent from for Windows ?
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From: Tom Crowley via groups.ioSent: Saturday, December 18, 2021 10:58 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [N4N-Field-Day] Computers ? I get a discount from Lenovo,? My newest machine is a I9, 32GB Memory, 1 Terabyte SSD.? Connected to a 100MB Internet.? It flies.? Sometime finishing before I start?? ? Wonder how it compares to a IBM 165 of the 70’s? ? Tommy Da C KT4XN ? Sent from for Windows ? ? The supply chain disruptions are just getting started. I think this is something we are going to learn to live with for the next 2 years or so. Dell is good, especially the?pro-grade stuff. I generally build my own "white box" computer, but you and I have different relationships with computers.? I like ASUS motherboards with Intel CPUs.? For your hamshack, you want?a i7 or i9 processor, probably.? Get 16 GB of memory and solid-state disk.?? ? On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 11:56 PM Dave Moss <davemoss@...> wrote: Gents, Back in November I ordered a new Dell desktop for the ham shack.? The old desktop is still working fine, but it’s a bit long in the tooth, and I’d like to add capability for more than the two monitors I have now.? Why Dell?? Well, every computer I’ve bought for the past 20 years or more has been Dell, and they always seemed to work out OK.? ? Well, this week Dell pissed me off.? The computer I ordered was supposed to be delivered December 21 (3-4 weeks after the order).? But I was notified today that it won’t be shipped until Feb. 1.? Not the end of the world, but it just irritates me that they wait almost to delivery day to let me know they aren’t actually going to ship.? Yea, there are supply chain issues, but nothing has changed in the past three weeks, and Dell had to see this coming before today. Generally my response to issues like this is simply to cancel the order and never do business again with companies that jerk me around. So, my inclination is to buy from someone else.? ?I get it that it will probably be Feb 1 or later by the time I get one from someone else, but at least it would be from someone pleasant to do business with.? ? So, with that possibility in mind, is there another computer maker out there as good as or better than Dell and will let you customize what you want?? Any brands to especially avoid?? ?? ? Dave UW
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Gents,
Thanks for the suggestions--much appreciated.??
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I contacted Dell, fully intending to cancel.? They told me the computer would be delivered as scheduled, but they didn't have the monitors I ordered with it.? So I'll take the computer, and it was shipped today.? I have to call a different number at Dell to see if a substitute model of monitors will work, since I need Displayport in and out (and I needed to confirm that the computer was ready).?
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So maybe it won't be so bad.? If Dell can ship monitors soon, maybe I'll stick with theirs.? If not, I'll go to microcenter as suggested and see what they have available.
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Again, thanks.??
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Dave UW
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Gents,
Back in November I ordered a new Dell desktop for the ham shack.? The old desktop is still working fine, but it’s a bit long in the tooth, and I’d like to add capability for more than the two monitors I have now.? Why Dell?? Well, every computer I’ve bought for the past 20 years or more has been Dell, and they always seemed to work out OK.?
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Well, this week Dell pissed me off.? The computer I ordered was supposed to be delivered December 21 (3-4 weeks after the order).? But I was notified today that it won’t be shipped until Feb. 1.? Not the end of the world, but it just irritates me that they wait almost to delivery day to let me know they aren’t actually going to ship.? Yea, there are supply chain issues, but nothing has changed in the past three weeks, and Dell had to see this coming before today. Generally my response to issues like this is simply to cancel the order and never do business again with companies that jerk me around. So, my inclination is to buy from someone else.? ?I get it that it will probably be Feb 1 or later by the time I get one from someone else, but at least it would be from someone pleasant to do business with.?
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So, with that possibility in mind, is there another computer maker out there as good as or better than Dell and will let you customize what you want?? Any brands to especially avoid?? ??
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Dave UW
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