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I use an EFHW on 80-10 for one of my stations and it gets me on the air. I have worked some DX but I don’t think that it is near as good as a dipole. Doesn’t resonant on all bands as advertised but it covers some of the bands that my Windom will not work on like 15 meters. I can upload a scan of the band with that antenna. I will do that when I go back downstairs for the meeting tonight.?

I think a dipole would be a better performer.? The end fed would only require 1 rope to hang up high.? With a pulley, a different antenna could be easily hoisted up in minutes.?

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Tim

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On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 4:49 PM KE4UW Dave <mossdj@...> wrote:

Tim, how does the end fed compare to a dipole.? We have dipoles available for 80-10. They are an easy install—I put up dipoles for 80/40, 20, 15, and 10 by myself on Friday last year. Unless the end fed is better, not sure why we’d go that way.?

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Just curious. I’ve never used an end fed.?

On Apr 28, 2021, at 7:48 PM, Tim <tlemmon@...> wrote:

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Eddie.? Thanks for the zoom setup.

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For me it won't work, because I'm planning to be out on the road with my bike during that time.

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I'd love to play Field Day this June.? I have signed up to participate in the GA 400 bike ride that Sunday, so I'm only in on Saturday.

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Since the group size will probably be smaller than normal, lets take advantage of that and make the scope of work for setup/teardown smaller as well.? I KNOW an end fed antenna isn't all that hot, but it's EASY to put up.? Maybe two or three of them?? I've got a never-used 20M end fed here at home.? Not sure how many radios we'd have going.? Maybe the 40M vertical out front??

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And I love the contest style of operating, but maybe take advantage of the changes this year and play a bit more relaxed than usual?? Heck I might even enjoy playing on a digital setup for a while?? Certainly some of Eric's butt for dinner.? Swim a bit more :)

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If we're small enough, put all radios on the back porch and forego setting up the big white tent?? I'll be available to teardown as needed, but not until that Monday (or later).

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Tim, WK4U

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Eric Howell
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On Apr 29, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Tim <tlemmon@...> wrote:

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I think a dipole would be a better performer.? The end fed would only require 1 rope to hang up high.? With a pulley, a different antenna could be easily hoisted up in minutes.?

Tim

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 4:49 PM KE4UW Dave <mossdj@...> wrote:

Tim, how does the end fed compare to a dipole.? We have dipoles available for 80-10. They are an easy install—I put up dipoles for 80/40, 20, 15, and 10 by myself on Friday last year. Unless the end fed is better, not sure why we’d go that way.?

Just curious. I’ve never used an end fed.?

On Apr 28, 2021, at 7:48 PM, Tim <tlemmon@...> wrote:

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Eddie.? Thanks for the zoom setup.

For me it won't work, because I'm planning to be out on the road with my bike during that time.

I'd love to play Field Day this June.? I have signed up to participate in the GA 400 bike ride that Sunday, so I'm only in on Saturday.

Since the group size will probably be smaller than normal, lets take advantage of that and make the scope of work for setup/teardown smaller as well.? I KNOW an end fed antenna isn't all that hot, but it's EASY to put up.? Maybe two or three of them?? I've got a never-used 20M end fed here at home.? Not sure how many radios we'd have going.? Maybe the 40M vertical out front??

And I love the contest style of operating, but maybe take advantage of the changes this year and play a bit more relaxed than usual?? Heck I might even enjoy playing on a digital setup for a while?? Certainly some of Eric's butt for dinner.? Swim a bit more :)

If we're small enough, put all radios on the back porch and forego setting up the big white tent?? I'll be available to teardown as needed, but not until that Monday (or later).

Tim, WK4U

I think a dipole would be a better performer.? The end fed would only require 1 rope to hang up high.? With a pulley, a different antenna could be easily hoisted up in minutes.?

Tim

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 4:49 PM KE4UW Dave <mossdj@...> wrote:

Tim, how does the end fed compare to a dipole.? We have dipoles available for 80-10. They are an easy install—I put up dipoles for 80/40, 20, 15, and 10 by myself on Friday last year. Unless the end fed is better, not sure why we’d go that way.?

Just curious. I’ve never used an end fed.?

On Apr 28, 2021, at 7:48 PM, Tim <tlemmon@...> wrote:

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Eddie.? Thanks for the zoom setup.

For me it won't work, because I'm planning to be out on the road with my bike during that time.

I'd love to play Field Day this June.? I have signed up to participate in the GA 400 bike ride that Sunday, so I'm only in on Saturday.

Since the group size will probably be smaller than normal, lets take advantage of that and make the scope of work for setup/teardown smaller as well.? I KNOW an end fed antenna isn't all that hot, but it's EASY to put up.? Maybe two or three of them?? I've got a never-used 20M end fed here at home.? Not sure how many radios we'd have going.? Maybe the 40M vertical out front??

And I love the contest style of operating, but maybe take advantage of the changes this year and play a bit more relaxed than usual?? Heck I might even enjoy playing on a digital setup for a while?? Certainly some of Eric's butt for dinner.? Swim a bit more :)

If we're small enough, put all radios on the back porch and forego setting up the big white tent?? I'll be available to teardown as needed, but not until that Monday (or later).

Tim, WK4U

On Apr 28, 2021, at 7:48 PM, Tim <tlemmon@...> wrote:

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Eddie.? Thanks for the zoom setup.

For me it won't work, because I'm planning to be out on the road with my bike during that time.

I'd love to play Field Day this June.? I have signed up to participate in the GA 400 bike ride that Sunday, so I'm only in on Saturday.

Since the group size will probably be smaller than normal, lets take advantage of that and make the scope of work for setup/teardown smaller as well.? I KNOW an end fed antenna isn't all that hot, but it's EASY to put up.? Maybe two or three of them?? I've got a never-used 20M end fed here at home.? Not sure how many radios we'd have going.? Maybe the 40M vertical out front??

And I love the contest style of operating, but maybe take advantage of the changes this year and play a bit more relaxed than usual?? Heck I might even enjoy playing on a digital setup for a while?? Certainly some of Eric's butt for dinner.? Swim a bit more :)

If we're small enough, put all radios on the back porch and forego setting up the big white tent?? I'll be available to teardown as needed, but not until that Monday (or later).

Tim, WK4U

On Apr 27, 2021, at 7:09 PM, Dave Moss <davemoss@...> wrote:

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We’ll be bouncing around some options of FD 2021 Thursday 7:00pm at my place if you want to join in.? So far I believe we have me, AJ2Y, and AE4TQ participating.? Others are welcome—just let me know so we can make sure there are beverages for all.?

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Dave UW

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I haven’t been particularly successful linking up with folks on 3745 for months now.? I’m just wondering if it wouldn’t be a good idea to pick a time to meet.? So how about 7:00pm to 7:30pm local, 2300 to 2330Z?? I’ll try to be in the shack listening around 2300Z.? If folks prefer a different time, speak up!

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Dave UW

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Gents,

We’re about two months out, so it’s probably about time we start finalizing some plans for field day.?

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I’m not sure what that might look like, but I could sure use some input from the group on what might be some practical approaches we could/should take this year.? Email would be great, but some face to face discussion is a hell of a lot more efficient.? So . . . .

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For anyone interested, lets get together next Thursday evening at 1900 local at my place and bounce around some ideas.? If you plan to come, let me know.? If you can’t make it, but have some thoughts or ideas, post them.? To make the gathering just a little more enticing, Eddie may honor us with some samples of his latest brewing project.?

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To prime the pump a little bit:? It seems to me that the full tilt boogie affair with kids and significant others here most of the weekend probably doesn’t make sense.? It also makes sense to gather only those folks who have been “fully vaccinated”.? But beyond that, how should we organize this event??

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• Maybe schedule and plan around having two or three people per station on site at any given time?? Maybe 12-18 folks max at any time.? Enough for some socializing, but not everybody all the time?
• Maybe a “core group” of 6 to 10 folks who will be here the whole time, with others coming and going?? That would make sense for some of the folks coming from too far away to make multiple trips.?
• Should we go back to using one or two of the white tents to keep things spread out, with stations 6 feet apart?? Or maybe to keep things simple, use several 10x10 pop-ups to keep setup simple? ?Or, if it helps, I do have AC in one of the sheds.? ?
• Should we skip the yagis and just use wire antennas like I put up last year to keep the workload light and the need for large setup parties to a minimum??
• How many stations?? I’d suggest we have all the cw stations we have operators for.? At least two, maybe three digital stations?? At least one, maybe two phone stations?

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Lots of combinations and permutations.? So lets gather whoever is most interested next Thursday and bounce some ideas around.?

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I’ll provide beer to supplement Eddie’s, and some chips/salso/queso.? You provide some ideas.?

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Dave UW

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On Apr 22, 2021, at 10:50 PM, Gary McConville via groups.io <WB4SQ@...> wrote:

?How about a Saturday lunch somewhere?

On Apr 22, 2021, at 10:31 PM, Joe Schippert via groups.io <joe_schippert@...> wrote:

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Hi Guys,

Sounds great!? I am fully vaccinated, and will be in the area on FD.? Will see you at Dave's next Thursday - THANK YOU DAVE!

73, Joe? AJ2Y

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On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 6:37:20 PM EDT, Dave Moss <davemoss@...> wrote:

Gents,

We’re about two months out, so it’s probably about time we start finalizing some plans for field day.?

?

I’m not sure what that might look like, but I could sure use some input from the group on what might be some practical approaches we could/should take this year.? Email would be great, but some face to face discussion is a hell of a lot more efficient.? So . . . .

?

For anyone interested, lets get together next Thursday evening at 1900 local at my place and bounce around some ideas.? If you plan to come, let me know.? If you can’t make it, but have some thoughts or ideas, post them.? To make the gathering just a little more enticing, Eddie may honor us with some samples of his latest brewing project.?

?

To prime the pump a little bit:? It seems to me that the full tilt boogie affair with kids and significant others here most of the weekend probably doesn’t make sense.? It also makes sense to gather only those folks who have been “fully vaccinated”.? But beyond that, how should we organize this event??

?

• Maybe schedule and plan around having two or three people per station on site at any given time?? Maybe 12-18 folks max at any time.? Enough for some socializing, but not everybody all the time?
• Maybe a “core group” of 6 to 10 folks who will be here the whole time, with others coming and going?? That would make sense for some of the folks coming from too far away to make multiple trips.?
• Should we go back to using one or two of the white tents to keep things spread out, with stations 6 feet apart?? Or maybe to keep things simple, use several 10x10 pop-ups to keep setup simple? ?Or, if it helps, I do have AC in one of the sheds.? ?
• Should we skip the yagis and just use wire antennas like I put up last year to keep the workload light and the need for large setup parties to a minimum??
• How many stations?? I’d suggest we have all the cw stations we have operators for.? At least two, maybe three digital stations?? At least one, maybe two phone stations?

?

Lots of combinations and permutations.? So lets gather whoever is most interested next Thursday and bounce some ideas around.?

?

I’ll provide beer to supplement Eddie’s, and some chips/salso/queso.? You provide some ideas.?

?

Dave UW

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On Apr 22, 2021, at 10:31 PM, Joe Schippert via groups.io <joe_schippert@...> wrote:

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Hi Guys,

Sounds great!? I am fully vaccinated, and will be in the area on FD.? Will see you at Dave's next Thursday - THANK YOU DAVE!

73, Joe? AJ2Y

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On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 6:37:20 PM EDT, Dave Moss <davemoss@...> wrote:

Gents,

We’re about two months out, so it’s probably about time we start finalizing some plans for field day.?

?

I’m not sure what that might look like, but I could sure use some input from the group on what might be some practical approaches we could/should take this year.? Email would be great, but some face to face discussion is a hell of a lot more efficient.? So . . . .

?

For anyone interested, lets get together next Thursday evening at 1900 local at my place and bounce around some ideas.? If you plan to come, let me know.? If you can’t make it, but have some thoughts or ideas, post them.? To make the gathering just a little more enticing, Eddie may honor us with some samples of his latest brewing project.?

?

To prime the pump a little bit:? It seems to me that the full tilt boogie affair with kids and significant others here most of the weekend probably doesn’t make sense.? It also makes sense to gather only those folks who have been “fully vaccinated”.? But beyond that, how should we organize this event??

?

• Maybe schedule and plan around having two or three people per station on site at any given time?? Maybe 12-18 folks max at any time.? Enough for some socializing, but not everybody all the time?
• Maybe a “core group” of 6 to 10 folks who will be here the whole time, with others coming and going?? That would make sense for some of the folks coming from too far away to make multiple trips.?
• Should we go back to using one or two of the white tents to keep things spread out, with stations 6 feet apart?? Or maybe to keep things simple, use several 10x10 pop-ups to keep setup simple? ?Or, if it helps, I do have AC in one of the sheds.? ?
• Should we skip the yagis and just use wire antennas like I put up last year to keep the workload light and the need for large setup parties to a minimum??
• How many stations?? I’d suggest we have all the cw stations we have operators for.? At least two, maybe three digital stations?? At least one, maybe two phone stations?

?

Lots of combinations and permutations.? So lets gather whoever is most interested next Thursday and bounce some ideas around.?

?

I’ll provide beer to supplement Eddie’s, and some chips/salso/queso.? You provide some ideas.?

?

Dave UW

?

?

Gents,

We’re about two months out, so it’s probably about time we start finalizing some plans for field day.?

?

I’m not sure what that might look like, but I could sure use some input from the group on what might be some practical approaches we could/should take this year.? Email would be great, but some face to face discussion is a hell of a lot more efficient.? So . . . .

?

For anyone interested, lets get together next Thursday evening at 1900 local at my place and bounce around some ideas.? If you plan to come, let me know.? If you can’t make it, but have some thoughts or ideas, post them.? To make the gathering just a little more enticing, Eddie may honor us with some samples of his latest brewing project.?

?

To prime the pump a little bit:? It seems to me that the full tilt boogie affair with kids and significant others here most of the weekend probably doesn’t make sense.? It also makes sense to gather only those folks who have been “fully vaccinated”.? But beyond that, how should we organize this event??

?

• Maybe schedule and plan around having two or three people per station on site at any given time?? Maybe 12-18 folks max at any time.? Enough for some socializing, but not everybody all the time?
• Maybe a “core group” of 6 to 10 folks who will be here the whole time, with others coming and going?? That would make sense for some of the folks coming from too far away to make multiple trips.?
• Should we go back to using one or two of the white tents to keep things spread out, with stations 6 feet apart?? Or maybe to keep things simple, use several 10x10 pop-ups to keep setup simple? ?Or, if it helps, I do have AC in one of the sheds.? ?
• Should we skip the yagis and just use wire antennas like I put up last year to keep the workload light and the need for large setup parties to a minimum??
• How many stations?? I’d suggest we have all the cw stations we have operators for.? At least two, maybe three digital stations?? At least one, maybe two phone stations?

?

Lots of combinations and permutations.? So lets gather whoever is most interested next Thursday and bounce some ideas around.?

?

I’ll provide beer to supplement Eddie’s, and some chips/salso/queso.? You provide some ideas.?

?

Dave UW

?

On Apr 22, 2021, at 18:37, Dave Moss <davemoss@...> wrote:

?

Gents,

We’re about two months out, so it’s probably about time we start finalizing some plans for field day.?

?

I’m not sure what that might look like, but I could sure use some input from the group on what might be some practical approaches we could/should take this year.? Email would be great, but some face to face discussion is a hell of a lot more efficient.? So . . . .

?

For anyone interested, lets get together next Thursday evening at 1900 local at my place and bounce around some ideas.? If you plan to come, let me know.? If you can’t make it, but have some thoughts or ideas, post them.? To make the gathering just a little more enticing, Eddie may honor us with some samples of his latest brewing project.?

?

To prime the pump a little bit:? It seems to me that the full tilt boogie affair with kids and significant others here most of the weekend probably doesn’t make sense.? It also makes sense to gather only those folks who have been “fully vaccinated”.? But beyond that, how should we organize this event??

?

• Maybe schedule and plan around having two or three people per station on site at any given time?? Maybe 12-18 folks max at any time.? Enough for some socializing, but not everybody all the time?
• Maybe a “core group” of 6 to 10 folks who will be here the whole time, with others coming and going?? That would make sense for some of the folks coming from too far away to make multiple trips.?
• Should we go back to using one or two of the white tents to keep things spread out, with stations 6 feet apart?? Or maybe to keep things simple, use several 10x10 pop-ups to keep setup simple? ?Or, if it helps, I do have AC in one of the sheds.? ?
• Should we skip the yagis and just use wire antennas like I put up last year to keep the workload light and the need for large setup parties to a minimum??
• How many stations?? I’d suggest we have all the cw stations we have operators for.? At least two, maybe three digital stations?? At least one, maybe two phone stations?

?

Lots of combinations and permutations.? So lets gather whoever is most interested next Thursday and bounce some ideas around.?

?

I’ll provide beer to supplement Eddie’s, and some chips/salso/queso.? You provide some ideas.?

?

Dave UW

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