Re: RFIV vs bridge
Easy to do in a long thread; I've done it myself. Nice to see you posting; this group has been quiet for far too long. Kerry VK2TIL.
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Kerry
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Re: RFIV vs bridge
Ooops, sorry, missed your earlier comment. 73, Vladimir
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Vladimir Simic
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#147
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Re: RFIV vs bridge
G'day Vladimir. I mentioned this earlier. I also have a VNWA but I don't like to smooth traces, I prefer the raw data. I like to use Dave's myVNA with the N2PK; it's my tribute to Dave. Kerry VK2TIL.
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Kerry
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Re: RFIV vs bridge
Hi, You might want to check the smoothing function, just one of the beauties in DG8SAQ's VNWA software. It also runs with N2PK hardware. Cheers, Vladimir
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Vladimir Simic
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Re: RFIV vs bridge
The attached photos show the setup and calibration standards. Note that Load calibration is always 50 ohms; the 200-ohm device is used to check that setup and calibration are OK before beginning a
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Kerry
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#144
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Re: RFIV vs bridge
Where did you calibrate the load? What resistance?
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Jerry
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Re: RFIV vs bridge
Attached are; Plot of raw data and Plot of same data with Trendlines. My engineer friend would be horrified! Kerry VK2TIL.
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Kerry
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#142
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Re: RFIV vs bridge
Some VNAs, eg the VNWA, have a trace-smoothing function. myVNA does not have this. If you want a nice straight trace, set the vertical axis scale to a high value per division. I think that an Excel
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Kerry
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Re: RFIV vs bridge
things are working a little better, or were, up until I swapped the power and ground rebuilding the cable I can't find. Glad I had a current limited supply feeding it! Things are less noisy now that
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Jerry
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Re: RFIV vs bridge
I posted recently in the VNWA group about building my N2PK; /g/VNWA/message/22644 I'd been learning about vector measurements, first with a home-made noise bridge and then with a
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Kerry
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#139
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Re: RFIV vs bridge
I forgot to label the frequency axis of my chart; see attached. I should also have said, in relation to the power supply, that there is a 5v linear regulator on the rear panel of the VNA; the 12v and
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Kerry
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#138
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Re: RFIV vs bridge
Hi Kerry, Very nicely built set-up! The supply internals look great. I started building the VNA and RF-IV adapter just over 10 years ago, and I was a bit naive. Knowing what I know now, I too would
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Shabaz Yousaf
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Re: RFIV vs bridge
G'day Shabaz. I did some measurements a few days ago on a 10k metal-film leaded resistor; this topic energised me this morning to process the S11 file. See attached. It's clear that the RF I-V fixture
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Kerry
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Re: RFIV vs bridge
Hi Kerry, Impressive! I don't achieve that level. I tried a 5.1k resistor just now too, the charts are set to 10 ohms per division (same as yours), with 1-60MHz range total. I am using ADC speed:9,
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Shabaz Yousaf
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Re: RFIV vs bridge
Check that Instrument Mode is set to Reflection and RF I-V; Transmission mode should not be used with RF I-V mode. Also check that calibration mode is set to Response Calibration. These settings
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Kerry
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RFIV vs bridge
I found my RFIV box but not the cable, so I wired it up and its working. It seems noisy. Just measuring my load references I get about +/- 1db noise. If I use a bridge, I get a ruler flat line. Also,
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Jerry
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Re: photo
I found my RFIV box, but not the top or the connecting cable. I'll post a picture in the morning. I also found an unpopulated dual detector board. I think it is the latest, but would have to verify
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Jerry
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Re: photo
yes of course, I know what it is. I just have to find my original. I had two of everything. The plan was to build a second one using a lower phase noise oscillator and a better DDS. I got the 2nd
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Jerry
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#131
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Re: photo
The RF-IV is one of the most frequent things I use with the N2PK-VNA. It's really excellent. Here's a photo of my setup: <https://1drv.ms/i/s!AlgR3ZgXGd0MwBRu2dqu9KfOE--y?e=SkxVmb>
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Shabaz Yousaf
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Re: photo
As Kurt said; the RF I-V PCB and parts (some common parts such as resistors are not included). I still use the one I built years ago; [img]https://i.postimg.cc/7hxwbt2r/RF-I-V-VNAs-2-A.jpg[/img] (Hope
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Kerry
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