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Welcome, Charter members!


Mary Krugman
 

The charter members of the Watercooler have signed on successfully,
so here are your collegues:

Kevin Allen (klad)
Jessica DeKoninck (JESSICAdeK)
Adriana O'Toole (AOT)
Louise Dunford Brodnitz (wesegil)
Round Hill Associates (roundhillassoc)
Mary Krugman (MDK10)

I hope you will each take the time to introduce yourself to everyone.
I will start it off...although you all know me, this list is
archived, so others can catch up later.

Mary Krugman - I am a historic preservation consultant in Montclair
and also maintain a website that markets historic properties. I am
also the elusive Round Hill Associates, the name of another part of
my business having to do with photography, fine arts, and digital
imaging.

I am active in a number of national and international organizations
related to preservation, as well as the Montclair Historical Society.
I served as Chair of the Montclair Historic Preservation Commisson
during its early (tumultuous) period,which is how I got to know many
wonderful (and some very difficult)people around town. That's how I
got to know all of you!

I also moderate two listservs in addition to Watercooler - one for
members of the preservation industry, and one for a planning
committee for a national group I serve with -- both are pretty far-
flung, so this website has been really great for us.

This whole idea of the Watercooler has been percolating in my brain
for some time now, but this weekend I decided that its time had come.
Kevin (who supports Beyond Montclair) sent an email to members of
his "klad joke listserv" asking for folks to vote for BM, and why not
to vote for Advance Montclair, the group I support. I replied to it --
and to all the other members of his list.

We jousted back and forth a couple of times, subjecting all of
Kevin's friends to what was a really interesting (well, for me
anyway) and frank discussion on the election. Finally, we decided to
save Kevin's friends from our blathering, and it ended.

However, I gotta say... it was one of the few times in my entire
political experience in Montclair that I have ever participated in a
quasi-public discussion as frank as that. It was really refreshing. I
think it would be really valuable if we could all do that more often.

Now I love Kevin and Kathy. I enjoy their company very much. Kevin
and I have worked together on some projects with the Historical
Society. However -- and this may be an understatement here -- we
don't always agree. The fact that he was one of the first to respond
to my invitation is a sure sign that disagreeing with someone is not
fatal to a friendship (well, I hope it is a sign of that, Kevin...).

So, in an effort to save Kevin's friends from further abuse, and yet
enjoy a really good verbal tussle, Watercooler was launched. Adriana
and Jessica may not be able to spend much time online until after the
election, when they will have a more relaxed schedule as they prepare
to assume office on July 1. But I look forward to more folks joining
over the next several weeks, which should make the discussion pretty
interesting.

If you have friends who live and/or work in town who you think might
be interested in joining this group, please invite them. Or let me
know and I can invite them (I have the computer generated version).

Our URL, if they want to check us out:


So, who's next?

Mary


Louise and Gil Brodnitz
 

Well, I'll jump in. I'm Louise Brodnitz, a member of the Montclair Historic
Preservation Commission, and architect (currently not working for pay, I
have a ten-month-old son, and a 6-year old daughter) and and as I said in my
profile, I'm also halfway through my Master of City and Regional Planning at
Rutgers. I am quite very interested in "smart growth" planning which
dovetails nicely with my historic preservation background. I also go to the
Montclair Connection Monitoring Committee meetings and am the informal
liaison between that committee and the MHPC.

I had a very tense moment when I realized that of all the candidates who
mentioned the so-called 'parking problem' in town, there was only one
candidate who seems to understand that more parking means more traffic
congestion, and creates more problems than it solves (he wants a
self-supporting transit system to reduce the need for driving around town)
Why was I tense? He's running in my ward against Jessica DeKonninck, about
whose candidacy I had previously been unequivocal...

I'd love to hear some of the dialog between you, Mary and Kevin, regarding
the two slates, particularly if any about Ed Remsen, preferably before
tomorrow!

Louise Brodnitz


I'd love to hear some of the dialog between you, Mary and Kevin, about the
two slates for the election.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Krugman" <MDK10@...>
To: <MtcWatercooler@...>
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 8:48 AM
Subject: [MtcWatercooler] Welcome, Charter members!


The charter members of the Watercooler have signed on successfully,
so here are your collegues:

Kevin Allen (klad)
Jessica DeKoninck (JESSICAdeK)
Adriana O'Toole (AOT)
Louise Dunford Brodnitz (wesegil)
Round Hill Associates (roundhillassoc)
Mary Krugman (MDK10)

I hope you will each take the time to introduce yourself to everyone.
I will start it off...although you all know me, this list is
archived, so others can catch up later.

Mary Krugman - I am a historic preservation consultant in Montclair
and also maintain a website that markets historic properties. I am
also the elusive Round Hill Associates, the name of another part of
my business having to do with photography, fine arts, and digital
imaging.

I am active in a number of national and international organizations
related to preservation, as well as the Montclair Historical Society.
I served as Chair of the Montclair Historic Preservation Commisson
during its early (tumultuous) period,which is how I got to know many
wonderful (and some very difficult)people around town. That's how I
got to know all of you!

I also moderate two listservs in addition to Watercooler - one for
members of the preservation industry, and one for a planning
committee for a national group I serve with -- both are pretty far-
flung, so this website has been really great for us.

This whole idea of the Watercooler has been percolating in my brain
for some time now, but this weekend I decided that its time had come.
Kevin (who supports Beyond Montclair) sent an email to members of
his "klad joke listserv" asking for folks to vote for BM, and why not
to vote for Advance Montclair, the group I support. I replied to it --
and to all the other members of his list.

We jousted back and forth a couple of times, subjecting all of
Kevin's friends to what was a really interesting (well, for me
anyway) and frank discussion on the election. Finally, we decided to
save Kevin's friends from our blathering, and it ended.

However, I gotta say... it was one of the few times in my entire
political experience in Montclair that I have ever participated in a
quasi-public discussion as frank as that. It was really refreshing. I
think it would be really valuable if we could all do that more often.

Now I love Kevin and Kathy. I enjoy their company very much. Kevin
and I have worked together on some projects with the Historical
Society. However -- and this may be an understatement here -- we
don't always agree. The fact that he was one of the first to respond
to my invitation is a sure sign that disagreeing with someone is not
fatal to a friendship (well, I hope it is a sign of that, Kevin...).

So, in an effort to save Kevin's friends from further abuse, and yet
enjoy a really good verbal tussle, Watercooler was launched. Adriana
and Jessica may not be able to spend much time online until after the
election, when they will have a more relaxed schedule as they prepare
to assume office on July 1. But I look forward to more folks joining
over the next several weeks, which should make the discussion pretty
interesting.

If you have friends who live and/or work in town who you think might
be interested in joining this group, please invite them. Or let me
know and I can invite them (I have the computer generated version).

Our URL, if they want to check us out:


So, who's next?

Mary



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In a message dated 5/8/2000 4:11:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
wesegil@... writes:

<< more parking means more traffic congestion, and creates more problems than
it solves (he wants a self-supporting transit system to reduce the need for
driving around town) Why was I tense? He's running in my ward against
Jessica DeKonninck, about whose candidacy I had previously been
unequivocal...

Never fear -- a big plank on Adriana's (CBD is her territory) platform is the
creation of a jitney service in Montclair, which is supported by the entire
Advance Montclair team. She prefers to see that than building all these
parking decks without trying something less intrusive and more pedestrian
friendly first. (Adriana would tell you herself, but she has been trying to
sign on to the list called "MtcWatercolour" and is having a bit of a problem.
I am sure she will be here presently...)

I will send you my comments to Kevin's original post back channel -- it
started as a "quasi-private" conversation not really intended for the
airwaves. If he likes, K can send you his side, too.

Mary


Kevin Allen
 

Ed Remsen certainly understands the Jitney concept, has had proported
that idea through grants awarded to The Montclair Farmers Market which
has run a Saturday Jitney for one or two years.

The downtown merchants also created a Jitney service during several
holiday seasons. All are corct that this concept must be
institutionalized, each has run just long enough to catch on, but not
long enough for the service to become habit for the users. My own
approach would be to redefine the work week for the senior shuttle and
open it to all on Saturdays. Maybe it could grom from there, maybe the
senior shuttle could always be open to all?

Parking in Montclair has been an issue since the 1930's when the first
decks were proposed. The concept for the deck/retail area promoted by
the MEDC (created by Ed Remsen) is a welcome addition to the town
center, as it will create street traffic in and around the deck and a
mews just off Church Street. Adding charm to an area we all agree is one
of our most charming.

None of these issues are simple and they all need to be addressed in
both grand vision and simple experiments.

Ed Remsen has been working on both levels, selflessly, for many years.

--
Kevin Allen
Principal Designer
Kevin Lee Allen Design, Incorporated
klad@...

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