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Re: March MadFox Meeting
Chad J. Lemmer
开云体育If you're on the topic of commercial VFP apps,
check out this one, too:
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The last time I downloaded the trial (about a year
ago), it was a VFP (7?) application with a web-like interface.
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- Chad J. Lemmer
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Re: March MadFox Meeting
PJ Fernandez
Good we welcome it!
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P.J. -----Original Message-----
From: Lorentzen David F. [mailto:DF.LORENTZEN@...] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 9:40 AM To: madfox_vfp@... Subject: RE: [madfox_vfp] March MadFox Meeting PJ, I have a demo that I can show - a commercial program written in...TA DA...VFP. Not my program, so I don't have any source code that we can muck around with, but always interesting to see what other folks are doing in VFP. -= Dave David F. Lorentzen Manager, HLA/Molecular Diagnostics Lab University of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics 600 Highland Ave Madison, WI 53792-2472 -----Original Message----- From: PJ Fernandez [mailto:pjfern@...] Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 12:39 PM To: madfox_vfp@... Subject: [madfox_vfp] March MadFox Meeting Tuesday, March 16th @ 5:30 PM Any suggestions for the agenda? P.J. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). Version: 6.0.622 / Virus Database: 400 - Release Date: 3/13/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). Version: 6.0.622 / Virus Database: 400 - Release Date: 3/13/2004 |
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Re: March MadFox Meeting
PJ Fernandez
开云体育Yes,
I'm here.? That is very nice of you.? Sorry to hear about your mother,
hope she has a speedy recovery.
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P.J.
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Re: March MadFox Meeting
Jim Tooley
开云体育I can't seem to find P.J.'s phone?number. I'd
like to arrange to drop off my projector so you guys don't have to bath before
you come to the meeting. Does anyone have it ... can't seem to find his company
in the phone book ... PJ are you tuned in ???
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Call me!
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Jim in Lodi
592-7892
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Re: March MadFox Meeting
HawkRidge
I'll be there
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Walk In Beauty, Cliff Smith hawkridge@... / 608 647-2366 -----Original Message-----
From: Lorentzen David F. [mailto:DF.LORENTZEN@...] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 9:40 AM To: madfox_vfp@... Subject: RE: [madfox_vfp] March MadFox Meeting PJ, I have a demo that I can show - a commercial program written in...TA DA...VFP. Not my program, so I don't have any source code that we can muck around with, but always interesting to see what other folks are doing in VFP. -= Dave David F. Lorentzen Manager, HLA/Molecular Diagnostics Lab University of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics 600 Highland Ave Madison, WI 53792-2472 -----Original Message----- From: PJ Fernandez [mailto:pjfern@...] Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 12:39 PM To: madfox_vfp@... Subject: [madfox_vfp] March MadFox Meeting Tuesday, March 16th @ 5:30 PM Any suggestions for the agenda? P.J. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: March MadFox Meeting
Lorentzen David F.
PJ,
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I have a demo that I can show - a commercial program written in...TA DA...VFP. Not my program, so I don't have any source code that we can muck around with, but always interesting to see what other folks are doing in VFP. -= Dave David F. Lorentzen Manager, HLA/Molecular Diagnostics Lab University of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics 600 Highland Ave Madison, WI 53792-2472 -----Original Message-----
From: PJ Fernandez [mailto:pjfern@...] Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 12:39 PM To: madfox_vfp@... Subject: [madfox_vfp] March MadFox Meeting Tuesday, March 16th @ 5:30 PM Any suggestions for the agenda? P.J. Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: Fox Thoughts
Einar Kvandahl
开云体育Just to add on to Eric's email. There is a great book from
Hentzenwerke called: ".Net for VFP developers". This book is a great
introduction book for .NET and is written by a VFP guru. The author seems to
favor C# and says that C# is probably the best choice for VFP developers, but he
compares C# and VB.NET objectively.
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Also there is a toolkit, Visual Fox Pro toolkit for .NET,
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The toolkit includes a lot of the good ol' foxpro functions
and commands and is a great starting point if you want to get into
.NET.
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Einar
? From: Eric Selje [mailto:eselje@...] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 6:20 AM To: madfox_vfp@... Subject: Re: [madfox_vfp] Fox Thoughts The mono project on Linux, which allows C#, vb.Net, asp.net, ado.net, etc. to run on Linux looks *very* interesting ().? Ironically if Microsoft had ported VFP over to the .NET side, getting it on Linux would have been much easier thanks to the mono project.? We could have just run our VFP psuedo-code on the mono Common Language Interface (Interpreter?) on Linux and been off and running!? Of course we'd probably have to use ODBC to get at VFP data. It'd be very ironic if Novell, with this mono project, knocks Microsoft out of languages.? Personally I think Novell should spin their Java development and app server (fka Silverstream) and Mono development into a separate company, and then maybe even merge that company with Borland who really has language expertise.? Ideally then Borland, who had dBase experience way back, could create a VFP clone or host an open-source VFP clone.? Yeah, that'd be awesome. There's still talk about IBM buying Novell though, which I'd hate to see happen.? IBM's overloaded with too much stuff as it is. Eric Stein Goering wrote:
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Re: Fox Thoughts
Eric Selje
开云体育Speaking of .NET, I know that PJ at one time in his consulting days was learning C#.? Anybody else??? It's my understanding that C# would feel more natural to us VFP programmers than Java even.The mono project on Linux, which allows C#, vb.Net, asp.net, ado.net, etc. to run on Linux looks *very* interesting ().? Ironically if Microsoft had ported VFP over to the .NET side, getting it on Linux would have been much easier thanks to the mono project.? We could have just run our VFP psuedo-code on the mono Common Language Interface (Interpreter?) on Linux and been off and running!? Of course we'd probably have to use ODBC to get at VFP data. It'd be very ironic if Novell, with this mono project, knocks Microsoft out of languages.? Personally I think Novell should spin their Java development and app server (fka Silverstream) and Mono development into a separate company, and then maybe even merge that company with Borland who really has language expertise.? Ideally then Borland, who had dBase experience way back, could create a VFP clone or host an open-source VFP clone.? Yeah, that'd be awesome. There's still talk about IBM buying Novell though, which I'd hate to see happen.? IBM's overloaded with too much stuff as it is. Eric Stein Goering wrote:
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Re: Fox Thoughts
Stein Goering
开云体育The .NET juggernaut keeps on rolling, and will probably ultimately lead to the fox’s demise, though not as quickly as some have predicted.?? The buzz about VFP 9 and the rebirth of FoxTalk are encouraging signs.? ? Still it’s a shame about GLGDW.?? I’m afraid the days of having a world-class, affordable Fox conference within driving distance are gone forever.? ?Here’s a link to some of the alternatives: ? Of these, Southwest Fox looks like the best match to GL – about the same time of year and comparable registration cost.? Not sure I’ll be able to justify attending, though, once I figure in the extra time and travel costs. ? --stein ? Stein Goering Arbutus Computer Services 17494 Merry Hill Rd Richland Center, WI? 53581 ? 608.538.3820 ? From: Eric Selje
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Re: March MadFox Meeting
Jim Tooley
开云体育Hi VIP / VFP Group,
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I'm not going to make the meeting this month. My
mother is undergoing heart surgery Tuesday afternoon and one has to have
priorities.
I just read Eric's latest post ... he makes some
interesting observations about VFP.
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Jim in Lodi
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Fox Thoughts
Eric Selje
开云体育Hi All,Ever since I've been down here, I haven't been doing much FoxPro coding.? In fact some of the only fox code I've written down here was an effort to separate some tiers of an internet applicaton, and I actually removed some VFP code in favor of XSLT.? I've also used a lot of PERL, some Java, and much XSLT. This effort is wrapping up and I'm attempting reintegrate myself with VFP.? It's a lot like putting on your favorite sandals after a night out dancing in uncomfortable new shoes. Here's a few thoughts I've been having.? Please comment on them: - I wondered while I was away whether the whole world abandoned Fox.? You don't come across information about it casually, but as I've gone out looking it's reassuring to see that in fact it looks about as strong as ever (fwiw).?? The success of the WinE project won't guarantee VFP's future, however.? In my opinion, VFP will at some point have to be spun off either as an open-source project (unlikely) or sold to another developer if it ever wants to flourish as it once has.? Otherwise it will languish in its current role as the tool for enthusiasts and a necessary evil for those supporting legacy apps, but won't be picked up by newbies when they can use PHP/MySQL to write good enough apps.? Too bad, they'll never know how good they could have had it.? Efforts to kindle VFP with either WinE or, even better, an open-source clone of VFP will be interesting but ultimately unsuccessful.? I love the possible irony of an open-source clone sending Microsoft the way of Ashton-Tate. - It was interesting to read about the demise and rebirth of FoxTalk magazine.? It looks like they're going to reduce their subscription price, which is great, and also get some content from Microsoft itself. - There won't be any more Great Lakes Great Database Workshops (aka WhilFests), at least in their present form.? What conferences are you planning on going to?? With VFP 9 due out in the 2nd half of 2004, now would be a great time to get back to a conference.? I missed VFP8s' conferences and was thus unaware of the great ACTIVATE WINDOW puzzle command! - The VFP team is blogging.? Check out .? It could also be retrieved as an RSS feed, which means we could add their blogs to our madfox.info site or even the VFP Toolbox.? Anybody done much tweaking of the toolbox? That's all for now.? Eric |
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Re: Problem Running Foxpro
PJ Fernandez
Is it an app or exe? The exe will demand VFP8.0 but the app may recompile
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in 6.0 or 7.0. But you have the problem of language extensions in VFP 7.0 and VFP 8.0. P.J. -----Original Message-----
From: Scott Sharpe [mailto:ssharpee@...] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:49 PM To: madfox_vfp@... Subject: [madfox_vfp] Problem Running Foxpro I just found out that my client had an app installed that they just ran for the first time today. It complained about an invalid Foxpro Resource file. Turns out, this other app is a VFP8 app. If I just put the VFP6 runtime files in the directory where they run the app, shouldn't that fix it? Thanks! Scott __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Problem Running Foxpro
I just found out that my client had an app installed
that they just ran for the first time today. It complained about an invalid Foxpro Resource file. Turns out, this other app is a VFP8 app. If I just put the VFP6 runtime files in the directory where they run the app, shouldn't that fix it? Thanks! Scott __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster |
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Re: Problem Running Foxpro
开云体育Also, you may want to confirm that any existence of FOXUSER.dbf and FOXUSER.fpt are not read only on the server.? (check the entire server - temp directories, etc).? Plus, try just deleting those files - the app will recreate them.
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peter d.
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Re: remote views 101
PJ Fernandez
Another way is to issue a REQUERY( "TableAlias" )
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From: PJ Fernandez [mailto:pjfern@...] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 10:10 AM To: madfox_vfp@... Subject: RE: [madfox_vfp] remote views 101 The SQL View is a snap-shot of your data. Your control, (listbox, combobox, grid), has to requery the data to get the latest information from disk. Issue a MyForm.MyCOntrol.Requery() and this will get the latest data. P.J. -----Original Message----- From: phecht_98 [mailto:phecht@...] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 1:35 PM To: madfox_vfp@... Subject: [madfox_vfp] remote views 101 Hello, I am working vfp6. I am attempting to have a remote view that links to a sql server 2000 database. I have the cursor and it works ok. But when I go to the other application and change the data I don't see it! So, I have to close data and use the view again. It seems I should be able to have VFP update the cursor at a regular basis. At this time, it is a read only app. Soon, I will have to have read write access. Peter Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: remote views 101
PJ Fernandez
The SQL View is a snap-shot of your data. Your control, (listbox, combobox,
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grid), has to requery the data to get the latest information from disk. Issue a MyForm.MyCOntrol.Requery() and this will get the latest data. P.J. -----Original Message-----
From: phecht_98 [mailto:phecht@...] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 1:35 PM To: madfox_vfp@... Subject: [madfox_vfp] remote views 101 Hello, I am working vfp6. I am attempting to have a remote view that links to a sql server 2000 database. I have the cursor and it works ok. But when I go to the other application and change the data I don't see it! So, I have to close data and use the view again. It seems I should be able to have VFP update the cursor at a regular basis. At this time, it is a read only app. Soon, I will have to have read write access. Peter Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: Problem Running VFP
Stein Goering
Since the program still shows up in the task list, your Foxpro code is still
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doing something. It seems like you're going to have to figure out just what that something is, then determine how to fix it. You say there's no READ EVENTS involved, so it seems like it's either waiting for input into the dialog box, which for some reason isn't made visible, or it's stuck in an infinite loop during the data import routine. This would be easy to figure out if you could reproduce the problem on your machine, but it gets to be a PITA when it only happens on a remote site, without the Debugger available, depending on the customer to tell you what's going on, etc. One thing I've found invaluable in such situations is to include a Trace method in my apps which includes code like this: lcFile = 'DEBUG'+RIGHT(DTOS(DATE()),4)+'.TXT' lcText = TIME(1)+' '+TRANSFORM(PROGRAM(PROGRAM(-1)-1))+' '+lcText STRTOFILE(lcText+CR,lcFile,.T.) lcText is passed in as a parameter I scatter calls to this a crucial points thruout the program, trying to include helpful notes (including variable values) in the parameter string. I then tell the user to run it to reproduce the problem and have them send me the resulting DEBUGxxxxx.TXT file. Typical output might look like this: 01:12:24.25 ACECODECLASS.ECHANDLER register button clicked 01:12:24.26 ACECODECLASS.REGINIT Initializing. UserID=XX0000098 Etc. In your case, you could stick in some strategic calls like this: Trace("Ready to starting input routine...") ... Trace("Input file opened.") ... Trace("Data has been imported.") ... Trace("Ready to show dialog") nResult = MESSAGEBOX(...) or however you do this Trace("Done with dialog. Result="+TRANSFORM(nResult) Etc etc.... Looking at the trace output should at least let you know what point in the program to focus on. If it gets to "ready to show dialog" and stops, you'll know that it's a dialog display issue. Or you may end up rethinking your statement that the data is not an issue... --stein Stein Goering Arbutus Computer Services 17494 Merry Hill Rd Richland Center, WI 53581 608.538.3820 -----Original Message-----
From: Scott Sharpe [mailto:ssharpee@...] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 1:47 PM To: madfox_vfp@... Subject: Re: [madfox_vfp] Problem Running VFP The first step imports some data from an old legacy system they still use. Then the dialog box just asks if they want to continue. They never see the dialog box. The imported files look the same and everything works on another PC so I'm confident the data is not an issue. I thought something might have happened to the runtime files that would have stopped the dialog box from functioning correctly, so I replaced the run-time files. But that didn't help. --- SY <sy@...> wrote: What does the dialog box say? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: remote views 101
Eric Selje
Do you have to call the Refresh() method?
Visual FoxPro Language Reference REFRESH( ) FunctionSee Also CREATE SQL VIEW | CURSORGETPROP( ) | CURSORSETPROP( ) Refreshes data in an updatable SQL view. REFRESH([nRecords [, nRecordOffset]] [, cTableAlias | nWorkArea]) I was thinking there'd be a property of the view to auto-refresh every, say, x seconds, but I don't see anything like that. Eric |
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