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parallel port

 

Thankyou Ron

The problem was in fact the cable, which I mistakenly thought was a
'straight-through' type but was in fact a 'crossover' for connecting
two computers.

David


Mach 3 spindle

zcases
 

I am converting to M3, and trying to control a spindle with
step/direction and a VFD. I have the pins set to the same pins as M2
and active low, duplicating my functional M2 setup, but I get no
spindle rotation. Is there another option or setting in M3 I may be
missing?

What are your ideas?
Thanks
Scott


Re: Turn Zero part button

art
 

Steve:

Did you name the modded screen .lset? Im wondering if your in Turn mode, the .lset is what switches it to Turn..

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Vagg" <steve_vagg@...>
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Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 4:17 PM
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Turn Zero part button


The zero part offset button works on the Lathe screen that comes with Mach, but on my modded screen I can't get the damn thing to work, I only copied the buttons from the original to my screen :-( All it does is zero the DRO's...

all input appreciated
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Re: info on lazy cam

art
 

Hi Jacques:

It shoudl save the last one used, but we've changed alot onm the last couple weeks. We'll check it out..

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Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 2:09 PM
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] info on lazy cam


Hi
my question is layer control when i open dxf file is any way to make
default setting for deep, rate rapid height or it came from auto cad setup
thank you
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Re: Modbus configuration help

art
 

Hi Mario:

It is not yet active, Im turning it on this weekend, should be out around Wed.

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Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 1:20 PM
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Modbus configuration help


Art:
in relise 040 I found the new modbus configuration :
if this active ?
how can I get information on how to use it ?
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Turn Zero part button

Steve Vagg
 

The zero part offset button works on the Lathe screen that comes with Mach, but on my modded screen I can't get the damn thing to work, I only copied the buttons from the original to my screen :-( All it does is zero the DRO's...

all input appreciated
Steve


Re: RC servo signal - R/C brushless / brushed spindle motor speed controller

Manu CNC
 

Ok Art, I will further investigate. I will keep you informed.

Thanks a lot for answering my questions,

Manu (@manu, manutoys, vantiv)

-----Original Message-----
From: mach1mach2cnc@...
[mailto:mach1mach2cnc@...]On Behalf Of art
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 4:01 PM
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Subject: Re: [mach1mach2cnc] RC servo signal - R/C brushless / brushed
spindle motor speed controller


Hi Manu:

If setting the scope to 2ms shows the right signal, and otrher setting do
not, then the scope is confusing you a bit. (Mach's not going to change the
signal based on the scope setting..:) )
So it sounds liek you need a 25ms base PWM freq. So set it to 40hz. That
at least will bring it in line. RC SErvos can be picky I thnk about the
signal they recieve, the PWM is not really designed for them, all you can
really do is experiment to see what the effect is. Hopefully youll find some
setting of that which is usefull..

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From: "Manu CNC" <mansys@...>
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Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 4:46 AM
Subject: RE: [mach1mach2cnc] RC servo signal - R/C brushless / brushed
spindle motor speed controller


RC-Servo signal:


Manu (@manu, manutoys, vantiv)


-----Original Message-----
From: mach1mach2cnc@...
[mailto:mach1mach2cnc@...]On Behalf Of Manu CNC
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 9:39 AM
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Subject: RE: [mach1mach2cnc] RC servo signal - R/C brushless / brushed
spindle motor speed controller


Hi Art,

My setup :
Kernel: 25,000Hz
Spindle Base Freq: 50Hz
Min, - Max Pully ration: 1 to 10,000

After scope measurements I get this !

If I set the scope resolution to 2ms/div I do get the correct signal!!


_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__
_|_ 2ms/div
0 2 4 6 8 0 2 4 6 8 0 2 4 6 8 0 2 4
6 8
1 2 3
rpm
200 _||______________________________________||__________________________

300 _||____________________________________||________________________

400
_||___________________________________||________________________


BUT, if I zoom out to 0.2 SECONDS/div I get this: distance between the
pulses 1.5 SECONDS !!!
Zooming into a pulse, I get the signal as above!

rpm
200
_||______________________________________||_________________________________
_________

4000_||___________________||__________
______________

9000_|||
|_____

Mybe my scope is confusing me

Anyway, I also attached a RC-servo motor to it and it moves in an
accelerated way to one extreme, whatever rpm speed setting: start slowly
and
accelerate at the end.

I can confirm that an RC-PWM-signal are Pulses of 1 to 2 msec long
repeated
every 20-30 msec!


Manu (@manu, manutoys, vantiv)


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From: mach1mach2cnc@...
[mailto:mach1mach2cnc@...]On Behalf Of art
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 1:03 AM
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Subject: Re: [mach1mach2cnc] RC servo signal - R/C brushless / brushed
spindle motor speed controller


Manu:

Well, if you select 50hz as the base frequency, and set the Max Pulley
ratio to 10,000 and only select speeds from 200 - 400RPM thats abotu what
you woudl get. A 1 - 2ms pulse every 20ms.
:)

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From: "Manu CNC" <mansys@...>
To: <mach1mach2cnc@...>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 6:04 PM
Subject: RE: [mach1mach2cnc] RC servo signal - R/C brushless / brushed
spindle motor speed controller


Grrrrrrr,

Is it possible ? yes :-) or no :-/


_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__
_|_ 2ms/div
0 2 4 6 8 0 2 4 6 8 0 2 4 6 8 0 2
4
6 8
1 2 3
RC-Signal every 20mS generate a pulse between 1ms and 2ms:
10% _||______________________________________||__________________________
50% _||____________________________________||________________________
100%_||___________________________________||________________________


Mach3 signal ?
10% _||______________________________________||__________________________
50%
_||___________________||______________
__________

100%_|||
|_____


Manu (@manu, manutoys, vantiv)


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info on lazy cam

 

Hi
my question is layer control when i open dxf file is any way to make
default setting for deep, rate rapid height or it came from auto cad setup
thank you
jacques


Re: Slow computer

Lester Caine
 

art wrote:

The speed of the computer is usually unimportant as long as it is over about 800Mhz. The periodic pulseing or surging sounds like a process interferance. Did you run the drivertest.exe to see if the waveform is clean? Killing all the items in the msconfig/startup usually can clean this up,or setting the network interface to a locked baudrate instead of auto (auto causes a periodicv pulse due to a DMA access every second or two. ) , the DriverTest will usually show that if its the case.
I've got to pick up the kit next week and then I can have a proper play. I don't officially take over until 1st July, but things are moving quicker than originally planned :)

--
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-----------------------------
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Modbus configuration help

 

Art:
in relise 040 I found the new modbus configuration :
if this active ?
how can I get information on how to use it ?
Thanks Mario


Re: User Button activation from an input

 

--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., "caudlet" <thom@...> wrote:

Does anybody know (or suspect) a way to call a button activation
from
a input for a user defined button. You need a number to call and I
can't find any number ID for user made buttons. I want to be able
to
activate a custom button that has a script of g-code behind it from
a
pendant...
Tom

Two possible routes:

(a1) Set the input to be an OEM trigger with code 301

(a2) Use the SetTriggerMacro in your initialisation to link all
buttons with 301 into a given macro (say M991.m1s)

(a3) In this macro put the code you want your button to execute.

or

(b1) Inspect the input with a IsActive(ss) call in a Macropump and if
so do your own code.

(a) is messy because of all the steps setting it up and the fact that
the macro needs to find which input caused it to run (if you have
several. (b) is messy because you usually have to notice changes of
the input as you will not want to run the code everytime the
Macropump runs - only when the button goes down (or sometimes up)

Have a look at section 4.2 of



for the OEM trigger technique and



for the Macropump. Bot relate to inputs via ModIO but there is
nothing special other than defining the input port as 0 rather than 1
or 2.

Let me know if you need more detailed pointers

John Prentice


Re: User Button activation from an input

art
 

Hi Tom:

Sorry, I meant to respond to this earlier. You need the SetMacroTrigger() script call. Calling a user script is a bit of a kludge. You call SetTriggerMacro( MacroNumber) , the macronumber is the file number like m666.m1s woudl be SetTriggerMacro( 666 );

Then you use OEMTrigger on function #301 to actiavate that file. The SetMacroTrigger must be called before the OEMTrigger on function 301 will work.

(Im thinking of a new way to do that which is easier, but its a bit of a bitch to get user buttons, they dont exist till the program is fully iniitialised..)

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Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 12:05 PM
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] User Button activation from an input


Does anybody know (or suspect) a way to call a button activation from
a input for a user defined button. You need a number to call and I
can't find any number ID for user made buttons. I want to be able to
activate a custom button that has a script of g-code behind it from a
pendant...






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Re: art sdk files

art
 

Hi:

No, normal relase just includes the JoyStick dll. Only programmers need the SDK installed there. The SDK is a spearate download..

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From: "gorf242003" <gorf242003@...>
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Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] art sdk files


The video says the sdk files will install in the plugin folder the
only file i have there is the joystick, do i need something else?..

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Re: Slow computer

 

--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., Lester Caine <lester@...> wrote:

Currently no network stuff enabled!
Well it is some process running that stops things.


When I get the machine over here I'll run things up on the scope ;)
You will then convince yourself that Mach3 cannot work at all :=) The
Bresenham algorithm gives average pulse rates that can be set at much
finer than the granularity of the basic engine. With an analog 'sco[e
this looks like multiple superimposed trains (which in a sense is
what it is). A digital (or storage) 'scope will show the pattern to
get the required average rate. As there is really no way to trigger
on the "tick" it is a software hunt that you need or, indeed as
suggested, a conventinal desktop motherboard with graphics card in
PCI or AGP slot until you get it going to your satisfaction.


I'd probably be looking at a bigger machine if I wanted more
inputs, but
that is the point when G100 comes into the equation anyway.
I was arguing the case that my tests with Modbus and a big macropump
suggest that 1GHz is safely "in margins" when not burdened - rather
than that is what you would want to do.

The "required speed" thing is not an absolute and as I say CPU speed
does not affect pulsetrain purity. Provided there is time for the
drive code to run it will do its stuff accurately. If there is not
time then the machine sticks its feet in the air and does nothing.

John Prentice


art sdk files

 

The video says the sdk files will install in the plugin folder the
only file i have there is the joystick, do i need something else?..

Thanks


User Button activation from an input

 

Does anybody know (or suspect) a way to call a button activation from
a input for a user defined button. You need a number to call and I
can't find any number ID for user made buttons. I want to be able to
activate a custom button that has a script of g-code behind it from a
pendant...


User Button activation from an input

 

Does anybody know (or suspect) a way to call a button activation from
a input for a user defined button. You need a number to call and I
can't find any number ID for user made buttons. I want to be able to
activate a custom button that has a script of g-code behind it from a
pendant...


Re: RC servo signal - R/C brushless / brushed spindle motor speed controller

art
 

Hi Manu:

If setting the scope to 2ms shows the right signal, and otrher setting do not, then the scope is confusing you a bit. (Mach's not going to change the signal based on the scope setting..:) )
So it sounds liek you need a 25ms base PWM freq. So set it to 40hz. That at least will bring it in line. RC SErvos can be picky I thnk about the signal they recieve, the PWM is not really designed for them, all you can really do is experiment to see what the effect is. Hopefully youll find some setting of that which is usefull..

Thanks,
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Manu CNC" <mansys@...>
To: <mach1mach2cnc@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 4:46 AM
Subject: RE: [mach1mach2cnc] RC servo signal - R/C brushless / brushed spindle motor speed controller


RC-Servo signal:


Manu (@manu, manutoys, vantiv)


-----Original Message-----
From: mach1mach2cnc@...
[mailto:mach1mach2cnc@...]On Behalf Of Manu CNC
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 9:39 AM
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Subject: RE: [mach1mach2cnc] RC servo signal - R/C brushless / brushed
spindle motor speed controller


Hi Art,

My setup :
Kernel: 25,000Hz
Spindle Base Freq: 50Hz
Min, - Max Pully ration: 1 to 10,000

After scope measurements I get this !

If I set the scope resolution to 2ms/div I do get the correct signal!!


_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__
_|_ 2ms/div
0 2 4 6 8 0 2 4 6 8 0 2 4 6 8 0 2 4
6 8
1 2 3
rpm
200 _||______________________________________||__________________________

300 _||____________________________________||________________________

400 _||___________________________________||________________________


BUT, if I zoom out to 0.2 SECONDS/div I get this: distance between the
pulses 1.5 SECONDS !!!
Zooming into a pulse, I get the signal as above!

rpm
200
_||______________________________________||_________________________________
_________

4000_||___________________||__________
______________

9000_|||
|_____

Mybe my scope is confusing me

Anyway, I also attached a RC-servo motor to it and it moves in an
accelerated way to one extreme, whatever rpm speed setting: start slowly and
accelerate at the end.

I can confirm that an RC-PWM-signal are Pulses of 1 to 2 msec long repeated
every 20-30 msec!


Manu (@manu, manutoys, vantiv)


-----Original Message-----
From: mach1mach2cnc@...
[mailto:mach1mach2cnc@...]On Behalf Of art
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 1:03 AM
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Subject: Re: [mach1mach2cnc] RC servo signal - R/C brushless / brushed
spindle motor speed controller


Manu:

Well, if you select 50hz as the base frequency, and set the Max Pulley
ratio to 10,000 and only select speeds from 200 - 400RPM thats abotu what
you woudl get. A 1 - 2ms pulse every 20ms.
:)

Thanks,
Art
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Manu CNC" <mansys@...>
To: <mach1mach2cnc@...>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 6:04 PM
Subject: RE: [mach1mach2cnc] RC servo signal - R/C brushless / brushed
spindle motor speed controller


Grrrrrrr,

Is it possible ? yes :-) or no :-/


_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__
_|_ 2ms/div
0 2 4 6 8 0 2 4 6 8 0 2 4 6 8 0 2 4
6 8
1 2 3
RC-Signal every 20mS generate a pulse between 1ms and 2ms:
10% _||______________________________________||__________________________
50% _||____________________________________||________________________
100%_||___________________________________||________________________


Mach3 signal ?
10% _||______________________________________||__________________________
50%
_||___________________||______________
__________

100%_|||
|_____


Manu (@manu, manutoys, vantiv)


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Re: Slow computer

art
 

HI Lester:

The speed of the computer is usually unimportant as long as it is over about 800Mhz. The periodic pulseing or surging sounds like a process interferance. Did you run the drivertest.exe to see if the waveform is clean? Killing all the items in the msconfig/startup usually can clean this up,or setting the network interface to a locked baudrate instead of auto (auto causes a periodicv pulse due to a DMA access every second or two. ) , the DriverTest will usually show that if its the case.

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From: "Lester Caine" <lester@...>
To: <mach1mach2cnc@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 3:16 AM
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Slow computer


Right guys ( and galls? )

Spent some time yesterday playing with a TaigCNC machine and comparing
Mach3 with the DOS package that normally drives it. The original control
program is running on an old machine that would probably not even load
W2k so I had taken along an ITX box with W2k already installed. Only
problem is that it is an 800MHz C3 processor, but since this is intended
to be an embedded computer to go with the machine nothing else was
installed on it.

Operation from the DOS program is smooth and clean, but running the same
tests in Mach3 give a number of problems. Even slowing things down,
running just 25kHz and slower feed rates we have a decided 'pattern' to
the noise from the stepper, like something is sticking every couple of
seconds, while the DOS has none even at a faster rate.

Is this likely to be due to the fact that the processor is not fast
enough? Neither of my laptops have parallel ports, so I could not hook
them up, and the desk machines are rack mounted, so until I can get a
machine over here it's difficult to try a faster processor. What *IS*
the slowest processor speed that will work cleanly - or is the less than
smooth pulse generation a 'facet' of using windows? Given the quality of
work that the machine CAN produce, any pattern to the axis movement is
likely to affect the surface finish.

Ideally I would like to include a 1.2 or 1.5Ghz ITX based processor with
each machine but I am wondering if that will work, or if I am stuck with
just running DOS and leaving Mach until the G100 or something similar is
a cost effective alternative :(

I will leave the other problems until I can run things with a faster
processor ;)

--
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-----------------------------
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art
 

Hi Dean:

I cannot reply to your questions, your email bounces back. Can you try another email address..

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