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HPGL pen

Christer Johansson
 

Hi Art!

I am sometimes using Mach2 for creating PCB (Routing tracks and drill).
I use a software that output the drill and mill data in HPGL.
The HPGL data have pen settings (SP) for different drill sizes, but
after the conversion i cant find any tool change data (M6) in the
G-code.
Do i missing something here?, or is this something you could consider to
add in the HPGL import in the future??

Best regards
Christer

=====
PU;
SP1;
PA0,0;
PA1930,406;PD;
PA1930,406;PU;
PA2032,406;PD;
=====


3.5 Lock

bacteriaestate
 

Hello Art,

Where do I down-load your v3.5? I have been to the links
page, and the files page. I could not find the latest locked version.

Thanks, Dale


Re: Mach2 V4 threading :)

 

Yes Art, but i wanted to say if we use a hole instead of a 150 % widht, we
loss a timing information, we can detect the hole, but it will not give
extra timing informations, specially for a low number of pulses per
rotation.

Olivier.


Re: Mach2 V4 threading :)

Garry & Maxine Foster
 

I can do that 2,2,2,3
Arts definition seems perfectly clear to me. The Index slot is the slot that will be unique,
that's what makes it an index..
Garry

To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Organization: Pilot Consultancy
From: Steve Blackmore <steve@...>
Date sent: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:33:37 +0000
Subject: Re: [mach1mach2cnc] Re: Mach2 V4 threading :)
Send reply to: mach1mach2cnc@...

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:42:23 -0000, you wrote:


My take on Arts description is only the one index slot needs to be
50% bigger. so slots 1 2 3 index will be

6mm 6mm 6mm 9mm
Told you it was confusing :)

Still waiting for a DEFINITIVE answer off Art - discs made but aint
gonna get fitted till next weekend now :(

Art please fill in the missing dimension

4 holes

2mm 2mm 2mm mm

Ta

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Re: Mach2 V4 threading :)

Garry & Maxine Foster
 

Sure doesn't sound right to me..


Garry

Organization: Redpoint Consulting Limited
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
From: Robin Szemeti <list@...>
Date sent: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:26:00 +0000
Subject: Re: [mach1mach2cnc] Mach2 V4 threading :)
Send reply to: mach1mach2cnc@...

On Sunday 22 February 2004 13:01, Art wrote:
Steve:

It must be wider than the previous slot by 50% of the previous
slots
width and must be the only slot or tape to match that definition.
right .. so ...

take 4 slots 1 2 3 Index

if we make the widths:

10mm 10mm 7mm and 10mm

then the last slot is 50% wider than the previous slot, so the last
slot will be the index slot right?


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Serious Tool offset/M30 problem

Steve Blackmore
 

Hi Art - there is a really nasty bug that crept in somewhere.
On a M30 the file rewinds and the tool offsets get removed even though
nothing is ticked in logic apart from turn off all outputs.

I haven't noticed it before because I normally change back to tool 1
which has no offsets, but I finished a file with tool that has offsets
of Z 1.092 and X 10.7 - on M30 file rewinds and tries to go to X-10.7
Z-1.092 and stuffs the tool into the job!!

--
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Re: 3.5e to 4.0 Need Some Help

Art
 

Jeff:

If I check both plasma and no angular discrimination, everything
sounds great and appears to run fine.(Sounds just like 3.5e)

No downside to that. The idea is to match the machine to the CV best for
it, so if your machine likes that mode, great.

Thanks,
Art
www.artofcnc.ca

----- Original Message -----


Re: Mach2 V4 threading :)

Art
 

Hi:

Yes, but it don't works with only 2 slots, you need a minimum of 3 if i'm
right, and even with 3 you will have one timing information less

No, two slots is fine too.... All pulses are used for timing, even the
index pulse..

Art
www.artofcnc.ca


Re: 3.5e to 4.0 Need Some Help

rs274d
 

Art,

Putting a G04P0 before each circular move just aggravated problem -
much louder longer clunk.

Plasma was not checked on logic page.

If I check both plasma and no angular discrimination, everything
sounds great and appears to run fine.(Sounds just like 3.5e)

Is there a down side to running this way?

Jeff E.
p.s. I think you have a typo in discrimination - not des:)

--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., Art <fenerty@a...> wrote:
Hi Jeff:

I think I may know this one. Try something for me. Put a G04P0
before each
helical or circular move as a test. Is it now smooth??
BTW: Is plamsa checked on the logic page?? 3.5e was in constant
Plasma CV
mode...

Thanks,
Art
www.artofcnc.ca


Re: Mach2 V4 threading :)

 

Yes, but it don't works with only 2 slots, you need a minimum of 3 if i'm
right, and even with 3 you will have one timing information less (only 2
pulses).


Olivier.


Re: Mach2 V4 threading :)

gittt2000
 

--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., Art <fenerty@a...> wrote:

if encoders are going to be used, all that
was unneccessary as the pulse would be centered
and exact in width.
So another way of looking at it is to think all that phaffing about
with discs and holes and opto sensors and interface and then trying
to oil/water proof it is unnecessary if you just fit an encoder. You
can pick an encoder up for less than a branded toolholder, so why not
do the job properly?. Possibly have an option for 'Encoder' to bypass
the width counting?

'Properly' in my book would also make most of turning synchronous to
and slaved off a high count encoder. Most operations such as turning,
boring and threading are measured in mm/rev, and even facing is
indirectly related so surely this way would be easier?

Richard


Re: spindle sensor orientation

Art
 

John:

Doesn't matter really, as long as it see's a reflection at some point...
Art
www.artofcnc.ca


Re: Mach2 V4 threading :)

Art
 

Hi:

Well, here's a psudo-code algorithm that actually figures out if this is
an index pulse..

1) Found input is active, measure width of slot
2) Is ( this slot width - last width )greater than the (previous slot width
/ 2)
3) If so, this is an index slot..
4) Repeat..

So 2mm, 2mm, 2mm, 1mm will work with the first 2mm becoming the index
pulse in one direction whille the 3'rd 2mm will become index in the other
direction... OR
2mm, 2mm, 2mm, 3mm will work with the 3mm being the index pulse in both
directions.

Note: I would make it a bit larger than 50% of the previous for stabilities
sake. Say 2mm, 2mm, 2mm, 4mm as a rule...

Art
www.artofcnc.ca


Re: Mach2 V4 threading :)

Steve Blackmore
 

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:42:23 -0000, you wrote:


My take on Arts description is only the one index slot needs to be
50% bigger.
so slots 1 2 3 index will be

6mm 6mm 6mm 9mm
Told you it was confusing :)

Still waiting for a DEFINITIVE answer off Art - discs made but aint
gonna get fitted till next weekend now :(

Art please fill in the missing dimension

4 holes

2mm 2mm 2mm mm

Ta

--
Steve Blackmore


Re: Mach2 V4 threading :)

 

--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., Steve Blackmore <steve@p...>
wrote:
I'm not keen on "reflective" types. The oil and coolant flying around
tends to make the tapes or shiny surfaces dull after a time affecting
the operation.

I got a load of slotted and reflective types off ebay very cheap. I'm
using them as limit/home switches too. The slotted ones are
impervious
to coolant, but the reflective ones get confused when either the
sensor
or the reflector get soaked in coolant/oil. The flag or rotating disc
clears any coolant or swarf away.

No matter what type you use, try and build a cover or put them out of
the way of oil or coolant as best as you can.

--
Steve Blackmore

Hi Steve,
I'm heeding your advice. Hopefully the sensor will be mounted
inside the "bell" of the pully for the spindle which is enclosed
along with the drive train mechanism.
Thanks much!
John


Re: Mach2 V4 threading :)

stevenson_engineers
 

--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., Robin Szemeti <list@r...> wrote:
On Sunday 22 February 2004 13:01, Art wrote:
Steve:

It must be wider than the previous slot by 50% of the previous
slots
width and must be the only slot or tape to match that definition.
right .. so ...

take 4 slots 1 2 3 Index

if we make the widths:

10mm 10mm 7mm and 10mm

then the last slot is 50% wider than the previous slot, so the last
slot will
be the index slot right?


--
RapidCut CNC Technology

CNC Plasma Cutter
My take on Arts description is only the one index slot needs to be
50% bigger.
so slots 1 2 3 index will be

6mm 6mm 6mm 9mm

John S.


Re: Mach2 V4 threading :)

Robin Szemeti
 

Heres an idea ...

why not use the same technique as used on nearly ALL car ignition pickups on
modern software-driven ignition systems ..

typically you have a say, 30 tooth wheel and a pickup .. and for the index
mark, simply a missing tooth.

thsi saves all the problems with spacing the extra-wide indes pulse in your
scheme ( you havent explained whther this extra-wide slot should start in the
same place as a normal slot or be centered etc this leaves room for error)
... a series of equally spaced slots with a missing slot for the index is
much to describe and less prone to intepretation by the users in odd ways ...

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CNC Plasma Cutter


spindle sensor orientation

 

...just a small teeny question that save testing time when
mounting....a direction to a picture at some site would help

Given the elongated rectangular shape of the sensor(reflective),
How might it be mounted in relation to the tape on the rotating
part....
would it(the sensor) be mounted with its "wide" head parallel to the
tape strip or perpendicular to the tape?

Whew!...details..
Thanks,
John


Re: Mach2 V4 threading :)

Robin Szemeti
 

On Sunday 22 February 2004 13:01, Art wrote:
Steve:

It must be wider than the previous slot by 50% of the previous slots
width and must be the only slot or tape to match that definition.
right .. so ...

take 4 slots 1 2 3 Index

if we make the widths:

10mm 10mm 7mm and 10mm

then the last slot is 50% wider than the previous slot, so the last slot will
be the index slot right?


--
RapidCut CNC Technology

CNC Plasma Cutter


Re: Rutex tune a no-go on my machine

Art
 

Derek:

I think you just have an older board. The newer firmware has new register
address's so is quite different from the old. Both versions work fine as
servo drivers, it wouldn't be worth your ( or Vlads ) time to upgrade them
simply to run the tuning program, but as time goes by, more and more will be
able to tune this way. The firmware is not flash upgradable but requires
re-soldering some chips, so its a case of luck at this point.
Thanks,
Art
www.artofcnc.ca