#208

Currently I am hanging on to my old iMac i7 (I think 2011 vintage) because it runs all my old software (though I am considering a virtual box?on the iMac Pro with SL installed and run old software ).?

One thing to keep in mind if you have a more recent machine needing fixing it might be better economics and future proofing to go ahead and do the fix because ?that will run Catalina and 64 bit programs. ?If you go out and buy a cheap oldie replacement you risk being well left behind because an oldie just won't keep up and you'll very soon get frustrated as various bits of software just stop ?updating and Apple stops supporting..

Jude

#210

I bet apple has really made a lot of friends there!

John

On Tuesday, 18 February 2020, 23:23:07 GMT, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

Currently I am hanging on to my old iMac i7 (I think 2011 vintage) because it runs all my old software (though I am considering a virtual box?on the iMac Pro with SL installed and run old software ).?

One thing to keep in mind if you have a more recent machine needing fixing it might be better economics and future proofing to go ahead and do the fix because ?that will run Catalina and 64 bit programs. ?If you go out and buy a cheap oldie replacement you risk being well left behind because an oldie just won't keep up and you'll very soon get frustrated as various bits of software just stop ?updating and Apple stops supporting..

Jude

#211

I can really see this backfiring in apple’s face. I had no indication my iMac would be non-upragedable, whatsoever when I bought it. Absolutely zero on website. Why not just upgrade to a PC, run Ubuntu etc?. Apple's slowing down old iPhones & been fined for it.

apple admits to slowing down old iphones?BSc

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I did research. I always do research. I probably drive my husband mad with research before I make a decision to purchase anything in this house :-)

If you hadn’t cottoned on to the differences in the specifications that would be annoying. You’d not be the first though.?

I actually rang my fav techie before purchase and had a heart to heart about my iMac Pro prior to purchase purely because Apple has taken to putting adhesive in various positions inside and I wanted to know things could be got out and replaced if needed etc.?

He was able to tell me he had had open one in front of him that week with part supplied by Apple under warranty and it was no worries at all. So I felt a bit more confident about paying $7680 for it.

I would do the exact same study for any Mac any price just to know it would do what I wanted.?

Jude

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On 19 Feb 2020, at 10:34 am, John Miller via Groups.Io <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

I can really see this backfiring in apple’s face. I had no indication my iMac would be non-upragedable, whatsoever when I bought it. Absolutely zero on website. Why not just upgrade to a PC, run Ubuntu etc?. Apple's slowing down old iPhones & been fined for it.

apple admits to slowing down old iphones?BSc

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Dearest Jude,

I feel very outclassed to say the least.

Do not know what your qualifications are. Mine Best of year Organic Chemistry, MSc Pharmacology, Phd Organic Chemistry, NIH Postdoctoral fellow. Feel apple has, been wrong to me, but I was at a low point. You try living with Class A drug dealers, for 3 or 4 yrs. See how well you'd cope

John

On Wednesday, 19 February 2020, 02:04:34 GMT, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

I did research. I always do research. I probably drive my husband mad with research before I make a decision to purchase anything in this house :-)

If you hadn’t cottoned on to the differences in the specifications that would be annoying. You’d not be the first though.?

I actually rang my fav techie before purchase and had a heart to heart about my iMac Pro prior to purchase purely because Apple has taken to putting adhesive in various positions inside and I wanted to know things could be got out and replaced if needed etc.?

He was able to tell me he had had open one in front of him that week with part supplied by Apple under warranty and it was no worries at all. So I felt a bit more confident about paying $7680 for it.

I would do the exact same study for any Mac any price just to know it would do what I wanted.?

Jude

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On 19 Feb 2020, at 10:34 am, John Miller via Groups.Io <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

I can really see this backfiring in apple’s face. I had no indication my iMac would be non-upragedable, whatsoever when I bought it. Absolutely zero on website. Why not just upgrade to a PC, run Ubuntu etc?. Apple's slowing down old iPhones & been fined for it.

apple admits to slowing down old iphones?BSc

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Check with a Mac friendly tech what it would cost to do the RAM for you.?

I go to our local Mac group monthly — the differences between the various models of newer Macs and accessibility have been a red hot topic several times — I was shocked when they had dropped out the CD burner out of Macs because its something I still use and I have software on CDs. As for not being able to install your own RAM any more in some models was also a bit of a wakeup. ?One of our members got caught with that one a while back. So don’t think you are alone.

Gone are the days you could confidently walk in and buy any Mac and be happy with it. They’ve made them less and less get-at-able over the years. Oh for the days of the G5 Cheesegrater tower where you could install your own HD etc.

I went to Earlsfield school for girls in London where I was top of the entire school and highest IQ of either boys or girls school at Earlsfield…. then I got dragged to Australia on forged papers - did 3 grades in one year in Australia did final exam …. and got sent out to work by mother at age 13.

My friend down the road received her new $60,000 Mac Pro Monday late. She had installed extra RAM herself and she emailed me at midnight to say it was transferring files) — it had a couple of dings in the carton would you believe. Carrier said Apple had loaded it and he never touched it till it got to her place. And the carrier and her husband unloaded it in front of her. Anyway it went all night transferring her data and at 8am yesterday the Mac Pro was still saying it had at least two hours to go to finish transfer. ?Haven’t heard yet if it was ok or not. Might wander up there later and stickybeak what it looks like.?

Nothing like the smell of a new Mac.?

Jude

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On 19 Feb 2020, at 1:03 pm, John Miller via Groups.Io <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

Dearest Jude,

I feel very outclassed to say the least.

Do not know what your qualifications are. Mine Best of year Organic Chemistry, MSc Pharmacology, Phd Organic Chemistry, NIH Postdoctoral fellow. Feel apple has, been wrong to me, but I was at a low point. You try living with Class A drug dealers, for 3 or 4 yrs. See how well you'd cope

John

On Wednesday, 19 February 2020, 02:04:34 GMT, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

I did research. I always do research. I probably drive my husband mad with research before I make a decision to purchase anything in this house :-)

If you hadn’t cottoned on to the differences in the specifications that would be annoying. You’d not be the first though.?

I actually rang my fav techie before purchase and had a heart to heart about my iMac Pro prior to purchase purely because Apple has taken to putting adhesive in various positions inside and I wanted to know things could be got out and replaced if needed etc.?

He was able to tell me he had had open one in front of him that week with part supplied by Apple under warranty and it was no worries at all. So I felt a bit more confident about paying $7680 for it.

I would do the exact same study for any Mac any price just to know it would do what I wanted.?

Jude

On 19 Feb 2020, at 10:34 am, John Miller via Groups.Io <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

I can really see this backfiring in apple’s face. I had no indication my iMac would be non-upragedable, whatsoever when I bought it. Absolutely zero on website. Why not just upgrade to a PC, run Ubuntu etc?. Apple's slowing down old iPhones & been fined for it.

apple admits to slowing down old iphones?BSc

#216

I'm so sorry Jude, but living next door to the door to the Class A drug dealers really drove me mad. I was afraid they might find out I could make drugs for them. I know you are going to think I'm making it up, but there were 4 coppers in body armour carrying Heckler Und Koch G36 Submachine guns. A helicopter came down & shone its nightlight into next doors bedroom window. I didn't go out looking but according to my friend on the ground floor there were a couple of coppers with dogs covering to the 2 exits. I would have thought 8 cops, but Stuart says 11. Who am I to argue?

John

Apparently they can get Class A drugs in 7 minutes, faster than a takeaway.

The world really has gone mad!

On Wednesday, 19 February 2020, 03:03:51 GMT, John Miller via Groups.Io <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

Dearest Jude,

I feel very outclassed to say the least.

Do not know what your qualifications are. Mine Best of year Organic Chemistry, MSc Pharmacology, Phd Organic Chemistry, NIH Postdoctoral fellow. Feel apple has, been wrong to me, but I was at a low point. You try living with Class A drug dealers, for 3 or 4 yrs. See how well you'd cope

John

On Wednesday, 19 February 2020, 02:04:34 GMT, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

I did research. I always do research. I probably drive my husband mad with research before I make a decision to purchase anything in this house :-)

If you hadn’t cottoned on to the differences in the specifications that would be annoying. You’d not be the first though.?

I actually rang my fav techie before purchase and had a heart to heart about my iMac Pro prior to purchase purely because Apple has taken to putting adhesive in various positions inside and I wanted to know things could be got out and replaced if needed etc.?

He was able to tell me he had had open one in front of him that week with part supplied by Apple under warranty and it was no worries at all. So I felt a bit more confident about paying $7680 for it.

I would do the exact same study for any Mac any price just to know it would do what I wanted.?

Jude

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On 19 Feb 2020, at 10:34 am, John Miller via Groups.Io <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

I can really see this backfiring in apple’s face. I had no indication my iMac would be non-upragedable, whatsoever when I bought it. Absolutely zero on website. Why not just upgrade to a PC, run Ubuntu etc?. Apple's slowing down old iPhones & been fined for it.

apple admits to slowing down old iphones?BSc

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You just have to put it behind you John. Maybe a bit of counselling to get your mind off it. These events do take a toll.

Hope the new place is more peaceful. Get yourself into a local Mac group and get involved. You never know sometimes people get to hear of jobs if you mingle.

Jude

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On 19 Feb 2020, at 1:21 pm, John Miller via Groups.Io <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

I'm so sorry Jude, but living next door to the door to the Class A drug dealers really drove me mad. I was afraid they might find out I could make drugs for them. I know you are going to think I'm making it up, but there were 4 coppers in body armour carrying Heckler Und Koch G36 Submachine guns. A helicopter came down & shone its nightlight into next doors bedroom window. I didn't go out looking but according to my friend on the ground floor there were a couple of coppers with dogs covering to the 2 exits. I would have thought 8 cops, but Stuart says 11. Who am I to argue?

John

Apparently they can get Class A drugs in 7 minutes, faster than a takeaway.

The world really has gone mad!

On Wednesday, 19 February 2020, 03:03:51 GMT, John Miller via Groups.Io <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

Dearest Jude,

I feel very outclassed to say the least.

Do not know what your qualifications are. Mine Best of year Organic Chemistry, MSc Pharmacology, Phd Organic Chemistry, NIH Postdoctoral fellow. Feel apple has, been wrong to me, but I was at a low point. You try living with Class A drug dealers, for 3 or 4 yrs. See how well you'd cope

John

On Wednesday, 19 February 2020, 02:04:34 GMT, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

I did research. I always do research. I probably drive my husband mad with research before I make a decision to purchase anything in this house :-)

If you hadn’t cottoned on to the differences in the specifications that would be annoying. You’d not be the first though.?

I actually rang my fav techie before purchase and had a heart to heart about my iMac Pro prior to purchase purely because Apple has taken to putting adhesive in various positions inside and I wanted to know things could be got out and replaced if needed etc.?

He was able to tell me he had had open one in front of him that week with part supplied by Apple under warranty and it was no worries at all. So I felt a bit more confident about paying $7680 for it.

I would do the exact same study for any Mac any price just to know it would do what I wanted.?

Jude

On 19 Feb 2020, at 10:34 am, John Miller via Groups.Io <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

I can really see this backfiring in apple’s face. I had no indication my iMac would be non-upragedable, whatsoever when I bought it. Absolutely zero on website. Why not just upgrade to a PC, run Ubuntu etc?. Apple's slowing down old iPhones & been fined for it.

apple admits to slowing down old iphones?BSc

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TY, hugs Jude & Peter

John

On Wednesday, 19 February 2020, 03:27:39 GMT, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

You just have to put it behind you John. Maybe a bit of counselling to get your mind off it. These events do take a toll.

Hope the new place is more peaceful. Get yourself into a local Mac group and get involved. You never know sometimes people get to hear of jobs if you mingle.

Jude

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On 19 Feb 2020, at 1:21 pm, John Miller via Groups.Io <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

I'm so sorry Jude, but living next door to the door to the Class A drug dealers really drove me mad. I was afraid they might find out I could make drugs for them. I know you are going to think I'm making it up, but there were 4 coppers in body armour carrying Heckler Und Koch G36 Submachine guns. A helicopter came down & shone its nightlight into next doors bedroom window. I didn't go out looking but according to my friend on the ground floor there were a couple of coppers with dogs covering to the 2 exits. I would have thought 8 cops, but Stuart says 11. Who am I to argue?

John

Apparently they can get Class A drugs in 7 minutes, faster than a takeaway.

The world really has gone mad!

On Wednesday, 19 February 2020, 03:03:51 GMT, John Miller via Groups.Io <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

Dearest Jude,

I feel very outclassed to say the least.

Do not know what your qualifications are. Mine Best of year Organic Chemistry, MSc Pharmacology, Phd Organic Chemistry, NIH Postdoctoral fellow. Feel apple has, been wrong to me, but I was at a low point. You try living with Class A drug dealers, for 3 or 4 yrs. See how well you'd cope

John

On Wednesday, 19 February 2020, 02:04:34 GMT, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

I did research. I always do research. I probably drive my husband mad with research before I make a decision to purchase anything in this house :-)

If you hadn’t cottoned on to the differences in the specifications that would be annoying. You’d not be the first though.?

I actually rang my fav techie before purchase and had a heart to heart about my iMac Pro prior to purchase purely because Apple has taken to putting adhesive in various positions inside and I wanted to know things could be got out and replaced if needed etc.?

He was able to tell me he had had open one in front of him that week with part supplied by Apple under warranty and it was no worries at all. So I felt a bit more confident about paying $7680 for it.

I would do the exact same study for any Mac any price just to know it would do what I wanted.?

Jude

On 19 Feb 2020, at 10:34 am, John Miller via Groups.Io <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

I can really see this backfiring in apple’s face. I had no indication my iMac would be non-upragedable, whatsoever when I bought it. Absolutely zero on website. Why not just upgrade to a PC, run Ubuntu etc?. Apple's slowing down old iPhones & been fined for it.

apple admits to slowing down old iphones?BSc

#219

I can really see this backfiring in apple’s face. I had no indication my iMac would be non-upragedable, whatsoever when I bought it. ?This is going to burn away their customer base. Why not just bu
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times 4 + plus full kevlar, helicopter & at least 2 dog handlers.

Jeesalloo!

On Wednesday, 19 February 2020, 03:38:04 GMT, John Miller <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

I can really see this backfiring in apple’s face. I had no indication my iMac would be non-upragedable, whatsoever when I bought it. ?This is going to burn away their customer base. Why not just bu
apple admits to slowing down old iphones

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#221

Which Mac is this the large screen iMac has always been upgradeable but the others are not.

Yours Aye
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?On Wednesday19/Feb/20:38, 03:38Wed, 19, Feb, 2020, "John Miller via Groups.Io" <[email protected] on behalf of johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

    I can really see this backfiring in apple’s face. I had no indication my iMac would be non-upragedable, whatsoever when I bought it.  This is going to burn away their customer base. Why not just bu
    apple admits to slowing down old iphones

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On 19 Feb 2020, at 00:00, John Miller <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

            I bet apple has really made a lot of friends there!
    John

                        On Tuesday, 18 February 2020, 23:23:07 GMT, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

                    Currently I am hanging on to my old iMac i7 (I think 2011 vintage) because it runs all my old software (though I am considering a virtual box on the iMac Pro with SL installed and run old software ). 

    One thing to keep in mind if you have a more recent machine needing fixing it might be better economics and future proofing to go ahead and do the fix because  that will run Catalina and 64 bit programs.  If you go out and buy a cheap oldie replacement you risk being well left behind because an oldie just won't keep up and you'll very soon get frustrated as various bits of software just stop  updating and Apple stops supporting..

    Jude

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It has been the case for a couple of years, John. ?Those in the know will adjust their buying accordingly, but I would replace my 27” iMac (2013) with another 27” as I know that the smaller model costs that much more to equip with a reasonable amount of RAM.

Chris

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I think I have the 21.5 " iMac, as I did not need, the screen "real estate", but lets say "I'm highly disappointed" (other words spring to mind) at it's exceptionally limited expandability, and more so that this wan't flagged up b4 my purchase. Redundancy built in. Apple will slow your old iPhone down.

John

On Wednesday, 19 February 2020, 14:43:54 GMT, zuiko via Groups.Io <zuiko@...> wrote:

It has been the case for a couple of years, John. ?Those in the know will adjust their buying accordingly, but I would replace my 27” iMac (2013) with another 27” as I know that the smaller model costs that much more to equip with a reasonable amount of RAM.

Chris

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My iMac 27in is getting on now but I love the screen size and don’t do anything sporty or clever on it. I think it dates from 2012 and it’s had one warranty repair a few years ago when the screen support hinge gave out; it was just three weeks away from the end of its John Lewis guarantee! ?Phew! ?If I replaced it, it would probably be with another 27-incher as it is so nice to have all that screen, whether you actually need it or not. My first flat-screen iMac was indeed the smaller size and I won an iLugger from a magazine competition, a padded bag with straps like a backpack, which fitted that size of iMac, so that you could carry it while walking or cycling. I still have that bag but it’s filled with keyboards and stuff these days.

Regards

Susan

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On 19 Feb 2020, at 03:38, John Miller via Groups.Io <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

I can really see this backfiring in apple’s face. I had no indication my iMac would be non-upragedable, whatsoever when I bought it. ?This is going to burn away their customer base. Why not just bu
apple admits to slowing down old iphones

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John, to be fair, I think it was pretty generally known that the smaller iMacs were not customer upgradeable and I think even the 27in ones can only have RAM customer upgraded but I could be wrong on this.

Regards

Susan

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On 19 Feb 2020, at 23:02, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

My iMac 27in is getting on now but I love the screen size and don’t do anything sporty or clever on it. I think it dates from 2012 and it’s had one warranty repair a few years ago when the screen support hinge gave out; it was just three weeks away from the end of its John Lewis guarantee! ?Phew! ?If I replaced it, it would probably be with another 27-incher as it is so nice to have all that screen, whether you actually need it or not. My first flat-screen iMac was indeed the smaller size and I won an iLugger from a magazine competition, a padded bag with straps like a backpack, which fitted that size of iMac, so that you could carry it while walking or cycling. I still have that bag but it’s filled with keyboards and stuff these days.

Regards

Susan

On 19 Feb 2020, at 03:38, John Miller via Groups.Io <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

I can really see this backfiring in apple’s face. I had no indication my iMac would be non-upragedable, whatsoever when I bought it. ?This is going to burn away their customer base. Why not just bu
apple admits to slowing down old iphones

#226

Well, it sure as hell, isn't mentioned on apple's website. We are not talking about putting in a new processor, or even a hard drive. These are small slots to slip memory chips in & out. What is the motive for stopping that, or slowing down old iPhones, but to force consumers to spend again?

On Thursday, 20 February 2020, 12:36:09 GMT, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

John, to be fair, I think it was pretty generally known that the smaller iMacs were not customer upgradeable and I think even the 27in ones can only have RAM customer upgraded but I could be wrong on this.

Regards

Susan

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On 19 Feb 2020, at 23:02, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

My iMac 27in is getting on now but I love the screen size and don’t do anything sporty or clever on it. I think it dates from 2012 and it’s had one warranty repair a few years ago when the screen support hinge gave out; it was just three weeks away from the end of its John Lewis guarantee! ?Phew! ?If I replaced it, it would probably be with another 27-incher as it is so nice to have all that screen, whether you actually need it or not. My first flat-screen iMac was indeed the smaller size and I won an iLugger from a magazine competition, a padded bag with straps like a backpack, which fitted that size of iMac, so that you could carry it while walking or cycling. I still have that bag but it’s filled with keyboards and stuff these days.

Regards

Susan

On 19 Feb 2020, at 03:38, John Miller via Groups.Io <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

I can really see this backfiring in apple’s face. I had no indication my iMac would be non-upragedable, whatsoever when I bought it. ?This is going to burn away their customer base. Why not just bu
apple admits to slowing down old iphones

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If you go into the Apple specs of your particular machine it would be obvious John. I agree its a nuisance getting down to the fine print to see exactly what you are buying. It used to be much simpler.

Jude

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On 20 Feb 2020, at 10:43 pm, John Miller via Groups.Io <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

Well, it sure as hell, isn't mentioned on apple's website. We are not talking about putting in a new processor, or even a hard drive. These are small slots to slip memory chips in & out. What is the motive for stopping that, or slowing down old iPhones, but to force consumers to spend again?

On Thursday, 20 February 2020, 12:36:09 GMT, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

John, to be fair, I think it was pretty generally known that the smaller iMacs were not customer upgradeable and I think even the 27in ones can only have RAM customer upgraded but I could be wrong on this.

Regards

Susan

On 19 Feb 2020, at 23:02, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

My iMac 27in is getting on now but I love the screen size and don’t do anything sporty or clever on it. I think it dates from 2012 and it’s had one warranty repair a few years ago when the screen support hinge gave out; it was just three weeks away from the end of its John Lewis guarantee! ?Phew! ?If I replaced it, it would probably be with another 27-incher as it is so nice to have all that screen, whether you actually need it or not. My first flat-screen iMac was indeed the smaller size and I won an iLugger from a magazine competition, a padded bag with straps like a backpack, which fitted that size of iMac, so that you could carry it while walking or cycling. I still have that bag but it’s filled with keyboards and stuff these days.

Regards

Susan

On 19 Feb 2020, at 03:38, John Miller via Groups.Io <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

I can really see this backfiring in apple’s face. I had no indication my iMac would be non-upragedable, whatsoever when I bought it. ?This is going to burn away their customer base. Why not just bu
apple admits to slowing down old iphones

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Yes, it was simpler before. Is this down to Tim Cook, I wonder??

Regards

Susan

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On 20 Feb 2020, at 15:43, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

If you go into the Apple specs of your particular machine it would be obvious John. I agree its a nuisance getting down to the fine print to see exactly what you are buying. It used to be much simpler.

Jude

On 20 Feb 2020, at 10:43 pm, John Miller via Groups.Io <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

Well, it sure as hell, isn't mentioned on apple's website. We are not talking about putting in a new processor, or even a hard drive. These are small slots to slip memory chips in & out. What is the motive for stopping that, or slowing down old iPhones, but to force consumers to spend again?

On Thursday, 20 February 2020, 12:36:09 GMT, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

John, to be fair, I think it was pretty generally known that the smaller iMacs were not customer upgradeable and I think even the 27in ones can only have RAM customer upgraded but I could be wrong on this.

Regards

Susan

On 19 Feb 2020, at 23:02, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

My iMac 27in is getting on now but I love the screen size and don’t do anything sporty or clever on it. I think it dates from 2012 and it’s had one warranty repair a few years ago when the screen support hinge gave out; it was just three weeks away from the end of its John Lewis guarantee! ?Phew! ?If I replaced it, it would probably be with another 27-incher as it is so nice to have all that screen, whether you actually need it or not. My first flat-screen iMac was indeed the smaller size and I won an iLugger from a magazine competition, a padded bag with straps like a backpack, which fitted that size of iMac, so that you could carry it while walking or cycling. I still have that bag but it’s filled with keyboards and stuff these days.

Regards

Susan

On 19 Feb 2020, at 03:38, John Miller via Groups.Io <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:

I can really see this backfiring in apple’s face. I had no indication my iMac would be non-upragedable, whatsoever when I bought it. ?This is going to burn away their customer base. Why not just bu
apple admits to slowing down old iphones

old macs v newer macs